lightningbug-devel

[Lightningbug-devel] ride board / housing board

[Midwest S. F. 2. <mw...@ss...>]

heya there smart developer geeks

i'm trying to put together a ride board and a housing board for the  
Midwest Social Forum, and i really love the look of LighteningBug,  
but problem is that i don't have access to a MySQL server.  Do you  
know of a php-only based alternative? or any other solutions?

thanks for yer great work.

kevin


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[Lightningbug-devel] LightningBug switches to SVN

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

Hello All--

LightningBug is now available via subversion.

The old cvs repository has been disabled. If need be it can be
restored temporarily (but we'd rather not!)

Anonymous public access to the head of the subversion repository is
achieved by:

  svn checkout http://lightningbug.fifthhorseman.net/svn/lb/trunk/lightningbug [^]

If you want to get a particular tag (e.g. fubar), do:

  svn checkout http://lightningbug.fifthhorseman.net/svn/lb/tags/fubar [^]


For developer (read/write) access, you should use the svn+ssh
transport instead, like this:

  svn checkout svn+ssh://dirt.counterconvention.org/home/svnroot/lb/trunk/lightningbug

developer access still  requires a shell account on dirt.



This information is also available on mantis at:

  http://bugtracker.jloreview.com/view.php?id=299

Regards,

	--dkg and mark

[Lightningbug-devel] CVS is busted (deliberately!)

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

howdy folks--

as a result of the work that jamie and mark and i have been doing, the
HEAD of CVS is now in a broken state.  We're making some pretty
invasive changes to the DB structure, so please don't grab from the
HEAD of CVS and expect it to work smoothly right now.

if you want a stable version, pull from LightningBug_1_x-branch 

at the moment, the only things which work really at all are: logging
in and out as a vetter, adding people to the banlist, modifying user
profiles, creating/tweaking boards, listing users, and vetter
invitations.

everything to do with listings is in a sort of interim state, waiting
on more work as we iron out the interactions between the new
LB_Submission object and the LB_Listing object, from which it sprang.

At the moment, it looks like we've managed to chop LB_Listing roughly
in half with this move, pushing a significant chunk of that monstrous
file into class.lb.submission.php.  this is a good thing, assuming we
can coax functional behavior out of it.

Also, there are currently no scripts in place to migrate a 1.x install
to a 2.0-pre install, so do *not* try this on a site with data you
expect to keep.  We'll be working on the migration scripts once the
main functionality has settled down a bit.

peace,

	--dkg

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] penguin day

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

so i think the plan is afoot, then.  i'll be here from 7pm onwards
today, so hopefully we can get some penguinday ideas sorted out
tonight.

Mark and Jamie and i will probably be meeting here earlier (around 3pm
-- yikes that's soon!) to do some work on the LB v2 development
project for joint calendaring.  all are welcome to that as well, of
course!

Looking forward to seeing y'all.

peace,

	--dkg

On May 2, ab...@bw... said:

 > I can do thursday a su casa.
 > 
 > I'd like to think about workshops we might want to lead.
 > 
 > 
 > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > just to follow up on this, since penguinday is nigh -- what are folks
 > > thinking?  are folks up for meeting briefly some evening this week to
 > > discuss our penguin day strategy?  I'd be happy to meet Thursday
 > > evening (5 May) at my place.
 > > 
 > > Alternatively, we could do a ytalk session on dirt, or a jabber
 > > conference, if that makes things more convenient for folks.
 > > 
 > > peace,
 > > 
 > > 	--dkg
 > > 
 > > On April 25, ab...@bw... said:
 > > 
 > >  > We should compare notes a bit about who we'd like to reach out to in 
 > >  > terms of pitching LB to folks who we think could or should use it or 
 > >  > contribute to it and getting them to Penguin Day as well.
 > >  > 
 > >  > --a
 > >  > Jamie McClelland wrote:
 > >  > > Hey all - don't forget to register! LB should be fairly well 
 > >  > > represented, but the more the merrier :-).
 > >  > > jamie
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Colleagues and Friends,
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Are you curious about what open source software can do for your 
 > >  > > organization?
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Have you ever wondered about what free and open source solutions exist 
 > >  > > that can help you in your work?
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Come to Penguin Day New York on Saturday, May 7 from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
 > >  > > to find out more!
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ******What is Penguin Day New York?******
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Penguin Day brings together nonprofit tech staff, eRiders, tech 
 > >  > > providers, consultants, and open source software developers for a day of 
 > >  > > learning and conversation.  Together, we'll demystify open source for 
 > >  > > nonprofits, frankly address the challenges of developing open source 
 > >  > > tools, and learn about specific promising open source applications for 
 > >  > > nonprofits.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ****What will I take away from Penguin Day?******
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Co-hosted by Aspiration, United Way/Teaming for Technology, and the LINC
 > >  > > Project of the Welfare Law Center, Penguin Day New York features a 
 > >  > > packed agenda of interactive workshops, round tables, and "speed geeks." 
 > >  > >  Sessions include:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > * Introduction to Free and Open Source Software for Nonprofits
 > >  > > * Local resources and who's-who in the New York Free/Open Source community
 > >  > > * Helping techies and non-techies communicate and cooperate
 > >  > > * Overview of Free and Open Source desktop applications
 > >  > > * e-Advocacy platforms and best practices
 > >  > > * Selecting an Open Source operating system
 > >  > > * Migrating your organization to Free and Open Source software
 > >  > > * Funding, financing and sustaining an Open Source project
 > >  > > * Hardware recycling using Free and Open Source Software
 > >  > > * Creative Commons and open content
 > >  > > * Speed Geek (a lively tour of projects and tools)
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > For more info on Penguin Days in other cities, see www.penguinday.org.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > **** What Are Others Are Saying About Penguin Days?  *****
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > "Penguin Day was great - I had an excellent day - made new friends, put 
 > >  > > a lot of faces to email addresses, had a whole load of fun - and got
 > >  > > introduced to some new applications and distributions!  Thanks again to
 > >  > > everyone who organised the day, ran sessions etc - it made my 4,500 mile
 > >  > > trip worthwhile!"
 > >  > > Ian, from London, UK
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > "Penguin Days are a fantastic opportunity to get together with a wide
 > >  > > variety of people and understand more about the issues that surround 
 > >  > > open source.  Unlike a lot of conference/gatherings, the emphasis in 
 > >  > > these is on meeting people and making connections that you carry out of 
 > >  > > them room.  And that works.Marnie from San Francisco
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > "Now on to Penguin Day... Wow. For my part I was impressed by the
 > >  > > international scope of the audience, folks from Great Britain, Canada,
 > >  > > Kenya, Turkey, Ghana, Chicago and all points in between. The energy was
 > >  > > great and the range of topics on the agenda meant there was something 
 > >  > > for everyone....suffice it to say Penguin Day set the mark against which 
 > >  > > all other events will be measured in my mind."
 > >  > > John from Chicago
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > **** I Love It! How Can I Get Involved? ********
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > We'd love to have YOU:  Register at http://newyork.penguinday.org.
 > >  > > If you would like to talk to us about facilitating a session on a topic 
 > >  > > you are passionate about, email us at agenda@penguinday org!
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ***Questions?****
 > >  > > Don't hesitate to contact us at in...@pe... or by calling
 > >  > > 413-884-0094 (Aspiration).
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > We look forward to seeing you at Penguin Day New York,
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Katrin and Gunner at Aspiration, Amanda at the LINC Project, and Arti at
 > >  > > Teaming for Technology for the New York Penguin Day Working Group
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Penguin Days are made possible by the generous support of IBM 
 > >  > > Corporation, in-kind support by local partners, and Aspiration.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] penguin day

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

That's a good idea - but I have another meeting on thursday so I can't make
it. I would be happy to read notes/get filled in on decisions though.
jamie

On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 01:35:41PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> just to follow up on this, since penguinday is nigh -- what are folks
> thinking?  are folks up for meeting briefly some evening this week to
> discuss our penguin day strategy?  I'd be happy to meet Thursday
> evening (5 May) at my place.
> 
> Alternatively, we could do a ytalk session on dirt, or a jabber
> conference, if that makes things more convenient for folks.
> 
> peace,
> 
> 	--dkg
> 
> On April 25, ab...@bw... said:
> 
>  > We should compare notes a bit about who we'd like to reach out to in 
>  > terms of pitching LB to folks who we think could or should use it or 
>  > contribute to it and getting them to Penguin Day as well.
>  > 
>  > --a
>  > Jamie McClelland wrote:
>  > > Hey all - don't forget to register! LB should be fairly well 
>  > > represented, but the more the merrier :-).
>  > > jamie
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Colleagues and Friends,
>  > > 
>  > > Are you curious about what open source software can do for your 
>  > > organization?
>  > > 
>  > > Have you ever wondered about what free and open source solutions exist 
>  > > that can help you in your work?
>  > > 
>  > > Come to Penguin Day New York on Saturday, May 7 from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
>  > > to find out more!
>  > > 
>  > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
>  > > 
>  > > ******What is Penguin Day New York?******
>  > > 
>  > > Penguin Day brings together nonprofit tech staff, eRiders, tech 
>  > > providers, consultants, and open source software developers for a day of 
>  > > learning and conversation.  Together, we'll demystify open source for 
>  > > nonprofits, frankly address the challenges of developing open source 
>  > > tools, and learn about specific promising open source applications for 
>  > > nonprofits.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > ****What will I take away from Penguin Day?******
>  > > 
>  > > Co-hosted by Aspiration, United Way/Teaming for Technology, and the LINC
>  > > Project of the Welfare Law Center, Penguin Day New York features a 
>  > > packed agenda of interactive workshops, round tables, and "speed geeks." 
>  > >  Sessions include:
>  > > 
>  > > * Introduction to Free and Open Source Software for Nonprofits
>  > > * Local resources and who's-who in the New York Free/Open Source community
>  > > * Helping techies and non-techies communicate and cooperate
>  > > * Overview of Free and Open Source desktop applications
>  > > * e-Advocacy platforms and best practices
>  > > * Selecting an Open Source operating system
>  > > * Migrating your organization to Free and Open Source software
>  > > * Funding, financing and sustaining an Open Source project
>  > > * Hardware recycling using Free and Open Source Software
>  > > * Creative Commons and open content
>  > > * Speed Geek (a lively tour of projects and tools)
>  > > 
>  > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
>  > > 
>  > > For more info on Penguin Days in other cities, see www.penguinday.org.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > **** What Are Others Are Saying About Penguin Days?  *****
>  > > 
>  > > "Penguin Day was great - I had an excellent day - made new friends, put 
>  > > a lot of faces to email addresses, had a whole load of fun - and got
>  > > introduced to some new applications and distributions!  Thanks again to
>  > > everyone who organised the day, ran sessions etc - it made my 4,500 mile
>  > > trip worthwhile!"
>  > > Ian, from London, UK
>  > > 
>  > > "Penguin Days are a fantastic opportunity to get together with a wide
>  > > variety of people and understand more about the issues that surround 
>  > > open source.  Unlike a lot of conference/gatherings, the emphasis in 
>  > > these is on meeting people and making connections that you carry out of 
>  > > them room.  And that works.Marnie from San Francisco
>  > > 
>  > > "Now on to Penguin Day... Wow. For my part I was impressed by the
>  > > international scope of the audience, folks from Great Britain, Canada,
>  > > Kenya, Turkey, Ghana, Chicago and all points in between. The energy was
>  > > great and the range of topics on the agenda meant there was something 
>  > > for everyone....suffice it to say Penguin Day set the mark against which 
>  > > all other events will be measured in my mind."
>  > > John from Chicago
>  > > 
>  > > **** I Love It! How Can I Get Involved? ********
>  > > 
>  > > We'd love to have YOU:  Register at http://newyork.penguinday.org.
>  > > If you would like to talk to us about facilitating a session on a topic 
>  > > you are passionate about, email us at agenda@penguinday org!
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > ***Questions?****
>  > > Don't hesitate to contact us at in...@pe... or by calling
>  > > 413-884-0094 (Aspiration).
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > We look forward to seeing you at Penguin Day New York,
>  > > 
>  > > Katrin and Gunner at Aspiration, Amanda at the LINC Project, and Arti at
>  > > Teaming for Technology for the New York Penguin Day Working Group
>  > > 
>  > > Penguin Days are made possible by the generous support of IBM 
>  > > Corporation, in-kind support by local partners, and Aspiration.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > -------------------------------------------------------
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>  > > Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in
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>  > > _______________________________________________
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>  > > Lig...@li...
>  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] penguin day

[Amanda B. <ab...@bw...>]

I can do thursday a su casa.

I'd like to think about workshops we might want to lead.


Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> just to follow up on this, since penguinday is nigh -- what are folks
> thinking?  are folks up for meeting briefly some evening this week to
> discuss our penguin day strategy?  I'd be happy to meet Thursday
> evening (5 May) at my place.
> 
> Alternatively, we could do a ytalk session on dirt, or a jabber
> conference, if that makes things more convenient for folks.
> 
> peace,
> 
> 	--dkg
> 
> On April 25, ab...@bw... said:
> 
>  > We should compare notes a bit about who we'd like to reach out to in 
>  > terms of pitching LB to folks who we think could or should use it or 
>  > contribute to it and getting them to Penguin Day as well.
>  > 
>  > --a
>  > Jamie McClelland wrote:
>  > > Hey all - don't forget to register! LB should be fairly well 
>  > > represented, but the more the merrier :-).
>  > > jamie
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Colleagues and Friends,
>  > > 
>  > > Are you curious about what open source software can do for your 
>  > > organization?
>  > > 
>  > > Have you ever wondered about what free and open source solutions exist 
>  > > that can help you in your work?
>  > > 
>  > > Come to Penguin Day New York on Saturday, May 7 from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
>  > > to find out more!
>  > > 
>  > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
>  > > 
>  > > ******What is Penguin Day New York?******
>  > > 
>  > > Penguin Day brings together nonprofit tech staff, eRiders, tech 
>  > > providers, consultants, and open source software developers for a day of 
>  > > learning and conversation.  Together, we'll demystify open source for 
>  > > nonprofits, frankly address the challenges of developing open source 
>  > > tools, and learn about specific promising open source applications for 
>  > > nonprofits.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > ****What will I take away from Penguin Day?******
>  > > 
>  > > Co-hosted by Aspiration, United Way/Teaming for Technology, and the LINC
>  > > Project of the Welfare Law Center, Penguin Day New York features a 
>  > > packed agenda of interactive workshops, round tables, and "speed geeks." 
>  > >  Sessions include:
>  > > 
>  > > * Introduction to Free and Open Source Software for Nonprofits
>  > > * Local resources and who's-who in the New York Free/Open Source community
>  > > * Helping techies and non-techies communicate and cooperate
>  > > * Overview of Free and Open Source desktop applications
>  > > * e-Advocacy platforms and best practices
>  > > * Selecting an Open Source operating system
>  > > * Migrating your organization to Free and Open Source software
>  > > * Funding, financing and sustaining an Open Source project
>  > > * Hardware recycling using Free and Open Source Software
>  > > * Creative Commons and open content
>  > > * Speed Geek (a lively tour of projects and tools)
>  > > 
>  > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
>  > > 
>  > > For more info on Penguin Days in other cities, see www.penguinday.org.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > **** What Are Others Are Saying About Penguin Days?  *****
>  > > 
>  > > "Penguin Day was great - I had an excellent day - made new friends, put 
>  > > a lot of faces to email addresses, had a whole load of fun - and got
>  > > introduced to some new applications and distributions!  Thanks again to
>  > > everyone who organised the day, ran sessions etc - it made my 4,500 mile
>  > > trip worthwhile!"
>  > > Ian, from London, UK
>  > > 
>  > > "Penguin Days are a fantastic opportunity to get together with a wide
>  > > variety of people and understand more about the issues that surround 
>  > > open source.  Unlike a lot of conference/gatherings, the emphasis in 
>  > > these is on meeting people and making connections that you carry out of 
>  > > them room.  And that works.Marnie from San Francisco
>  > > 
>  > > "Now on to Penguin Day... Wow. For my part I was impressed by the
>  > > international scope of the audience, folks from Great Britain, Canada,
>  > > Kenya, Turkey, Ghana, Chicago and all points in between. The energy was
>  > > great and the range of topics on the agenda meant there was something 
>  > > for everyone....suffice it to say Penguin Day set the mark against which 
>  > > all other events will be measured in my mind."
>  > > John from Chicago
>  > > 
>  > > **** I Love It! How Can I Get Involved? ********
>  > > 
>  > > We'd love to have YOU:  Register at http://newyork.penguinday.org.
>  > > If you would like to talk to us about facilitating a session on a topic 
>  > > you are passionate about, email us at agenda@penguinday org!
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > ***Questions?****
>  > > Don't hesitate to contact us at in...@pe... or by calling
>  > > 413-884-0094 (Aspiration).
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > We look forward to seeing you at Penguin Day New York,
>  > > 
>  > > Katrin and Gunner at Aspiration, Amanda at the LINC Project, and Arti at
>  > > Teaming for Technology for the New York Penguin Day Working Group
>  > > 
>  > > Penguin Days are made possible by the generous support of IBM 
>  > > Corporation, in-kind support by local partners, and Aspiration.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > -------------------------------------------------------
>  > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: New Crystal Reports XI.
>  > > Version 11 adds new functionality designed to reduce time involved in
>  > > creating, integrating, and deploying reporting solutions. Free runtime 
>  > > info,
>  > > new features, or free trial, at: http://www.businessobjects.com/devxi/728
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
>  > > Lig...@li...
>  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] penguin day

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

just to follow up on this, since penguinday is nigh -- what are folks
thinking?  are folks up for meeting briefly some evening this week to
discuss our penguin day strategy?  I'd be happy to meet Thursday
evening (5 May) at my place.

Alternatively, we could do a ytalk session on dirt, or a jabber
conference, if that makes things more convenient for folks.

peace,

	--dkg

On April 25, ab...@bw... said:

 > We should compare notes a bit about who we'd like to reach out to in 
 > terms of pitching LB to folks who we think could or should use it or 
 > contribute to it and getting them to Penguin Day as well.
 > 
 > --a
 > Jamie McClelland wrote:
 > > Hey all - don't forget to register! LB should be fairly well 
 > > represented, but the more the merrier :-).
 > > jamie
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > Colleagues and Friends,
 > > 
 > > Are you curious about what open source software can do for your 
 > > organization?
 > > 
 > > Have you ever wondered about what free and open source solutions exist 
 > > that can help you in your work?
 > > 
 > > Come to Penguin Day New York on Saturday, May 7 from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
 > > to find out more!
 > > 
 > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
 > > 
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 > > 
 > > Penguin Day brings together nonprofit tech staff, eRiders, tech 
 > > providers, consultants, and open source software developers for a day of 
 > > learning and conversation.  Together, we'll demystify open source for 
 > > nonprofits, frankly address the challenges of developing open source 
 > > tools, and learn about specific promising open source applications for 
 > > nonprofits.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > ****What will I take away from Penguin Day?******
 > > 
 > > Co-hosted by Aspiration, United Way/Teaming for Technology, and the LINC
 > > Project of the Welfare Law Center, Penguin Day New York features a 
 > > packed agenda of interactive workshops, round tables, and "speed geeks." 
 > >  Sessions include:
 > > 
 > > * Introduction to Free and Open Source Software for Nonprofits
 > > * Local resources and who's-who in the New York Free/Open Source community
 > > * Helping techies and non-techies communicate and cooperate
 > > * Overview of Free and Open Source desktop applications
 > > * e-Advocacy platforms and best practices
 > > * Selecting an Open Source operating system
 > > * Migrating your organization to Free and Open Source software
 > > * Funding, financing and sustaining an Open Source project
 > > * Hardware recycling using Free and Open Source Software
 > > * Creative Commons and open content
 > > * Speed Geek (a lively tour of projects and tools)
 > > 
 > > Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
 > > 
 > > For more info on Penguin Days in other cities, see www.penguinday.org.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > **** What Are Others Are Saying About Penguin Days?  *****
 > > 
 > > "Penguin Day was great - I had an excellent day - made new friends, put 
 > > a lot of faces to email addresses, had a whole load of fun - and got
 > > introduced to some new applications and distributions!  Thanks again to
 > > everyone who organised the day, ran sessions etc - it made my 4,500 mile
 > > trip worthwhile!"
 > > Ian, from London, UK
 > > 
 > > "Penguin Days are a fantastic opportunity to get together with a wide
 > > variety of people and understand more about the issues that surround 
 > > open source.  Unlike a lot of conference/gatherings, the emphasis in 
 > > these is on meeting people and making connections that you carry out of 
 > > them room.  And that works.Marnie from San Francisco
 > > 
 > > "Now on to Penguin Day... Wow. For my part I was impressed by the
 > > international scope of the audience, folks from Great Britain, Canada,
 > > Kenya, Turkey, Ghana, Chicago and all points in between. The energy was
 > > great and the range of topics on the agenda meant there was something 
 > > for everyone....suffice it to say Penguin Day set the mark against which 
 > > all other events will be measured in my mind."
 > > John from Chicago
 > > 
 > > **** I Love It! How Can I Get Involved? ********
 > > 
 > > We'd love to have YOU:  Register at http://newyork.penguinday.org.
 > > If you would like to talk to us about facilitating a session on a topic 
 > > you are passionate about, email us at agenda@penguinday org!
 > > 
 > > 
 > > ***Questions?****
 > > Don't hesitate to contact us at in...@pe... or by calling
 > > 413-884-0094 (Aspiration).
 > > 
 > > 
 > > We look forward to seeing you at Penguin Day New York,
 > > 
 > > Katrin and Gunner at Aspiration, Amanda at the LINC Project, and Arti at
 > > Teaming for Technology for the New York Penguin Day Working Group
 > > 
 > > Penguin Days are made possible by the generous support of IBM 
 > > Corporation, in-kind support by local partners, and Aspiration.
 > > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] penguin day

[Amanda B. <ab...@bw...>]

We should compare notes a bit about who we'd like to reach out to in 
terms of pitching LB to folks who we think could or should use it or 
contribute to it and getting them to Penguin Day as well.

--a
Jamie McClelland wrote:
> Hey all - don't forget to register! LB should be fairly well 
> represented, but the more the merrier :-).
> jamie
> 
> 
> 
> Colleagues and Friends,
> 
> Are you curious about what open source software can do for your 
> organization?
> 
> Have you ever wondered about what free and open source solutions exist 
> that can help you in your work?
> 
> Come to Penguin Day New York on Saturday, May 7 from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
> to find out more!
> 
> Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
> 
> ******What is Penguin Day New York?******
> 
> Penguin Day brings together nonprofit tech staff, eRiders, tech 
> providers, consultants, and open source software developers for a day of 
> learning and conversation.  Together, we'll demystify open source for 
> nonprofits, frankly address the challenges of developing open source 
> tools, and learn about specific promising open source applications for 
> nonprofits.
> 
> 
> ****What will I take away from Penguin Day?******
> 
> Co-hosted by Aspiration, United Way/Teaming for Technology, and the LINC
> Project of the Welfare Law Center, Penguin Day New York features a 
> packed agenda of interactive workshops, round tables, and "speed geeks." 
>  Sessions include:
> 
> * Introduction to Free and Open Source Software for Nonprofits
> * Local resources and who's-who in the New York Free/Open Source community
> * Helping techies and non-techies communicate and cooperate
> * Overview of Free and Open Source desktop applications
> * e-Advocacy platforms and best practices
> * Selecting an Open Source operating system
> * Migrating your organization to Free and Open Source software
> * Funding, financing and sustaining an Open Source project
> * Hardware recycling using Free and Open Source Software
> * Creative Commons and open content
> * Speed Geek (a lively tour of projects and tools)
> 
> Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org
> 
> For more info on Penguin Days in other cities, see www.penguinday.org.
> 
> 
> **** What Are Others Are Saying About Penguin Days?  *****
> 
> "Penguin Day was great - I had an excellent day - made new friends, put 
> a lot of faces to email addresses, had a whole load of fun - and got
> introduced to some new applications and distributions!  Thanks again to
> everyone who organised the day, ran sessions etc - it made my 4,500 mile
> trip worthwhile!"
> Ian, from London, UK
> 
> "Penguin Days are a fantastic opportunity to get together with a wide
> variety of people and understand more about the issues that surround 
> open source.  Unlike a lot of conference/gatherings, the emphasis in 
> these is on meeting people and making connections that you carry out of 
> them room.  And that works.Marnie from San Francisco
> 
> "Now on to Penguin Day... Wow. For my part I was impressed by the
> international scope of the audience, folks from Great Britain, Canada,
> Kenya, Turkey, Ghana, Chicago and all points in between. The energy was
> great and the range of topics on the agenda meant there was something 
> for everyone....suffice it to say Penguin Day set the mark against which 
> all other events will be measured in my mind."
> John from Chicago
> 
> **** I Love It! How Can I Get Involved? ********
> 
> We'd love to have YOU:  Register at http://newyork.penguinday.org.
> If you would like to talk to us about facilitating a session on a topic 
> you are passionate about, email us at agenda@penguinday org!
> 
> 
> ***Questions?****
> Don't hesitate to contact us at in...@pe... or by calling
> 413-884-0094 (Aspiration).
> 
> 
> We look forward to seeing you at Penguin Day New York,
> 
> Katrin and Gunner at Aspiration, Amanda at the LINC Project, and Arti at
> Teaming for Technology for the New York Penguin Day Working Group
> 
> Penguin Days are made possible by the generous support of IBM 
> Corporation, in-kind support by local partners, and Aspiration.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Lightningbug-devel] penguin day

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Hey all - don't forget to register! LB should be fairly well 
represented, but the more the merrier :-).
jamie



Colleagues and Friends,

Are you curious about what open source software can do for your 
organization?

Have you ever wondered about what free and open source solutions exist 
that can help you in your work?

Come to Penguin Day New York on Saturday, May 7 from 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
to find out more!

Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org

******What is Penguin Day New York?******

Penguin Day brings together nonprofit tech staff, eRiders, tech 
providers, consultants, and open source software developers for a day of 
learning and conversation.  Together, we'll demystify open source for 
nonprofits, frankly address the challenges of developing open source 
tools, and learn about specific promising open source applications for 
nonprofits.


****What will I take away from Penguin Day?******

Co-hosted by Aspiration, United Way/Teaming for Technology, and the LINC
Project of the Welfare Law Center, Penguin Day New York features a 
packed agenda of interactive workshops, round tables, and "speed geeks." 
  Sessions include:

* Introduction to Free and Open Source Software for Nonprofits
* Local resources and who's-who in the New York Free/Open Source community
* Helping techies and non-techies communicate and cooperate
* Overview of Free and Open Source desktop applications
* e-Advocacy platforms and best practices
* Selecting an Open Source operating system
* Migrating your organization to Free and Open Source software
* Funding, financing and sustaining an Open Source project
* Hardware recycling using Free and Open Source Software
* Creative Commons and open content
* Speed Geek (a lively tour of projects and tools)

Register now at http://newyork.penguinday.org

For more info on Penguin Days in other cities, see www.penguinday.org.


**** What Are Others Are Saying About Penguin Days?  *****

"Penguin Day was great - I had an excellent day - made new friends, put 
a lot of faces to email addresses, had a whole load of fun - and got
introduced to some new applications and distributions!  Thanks again to
everyone who organised the day, ran sessions etc - it made my 4,500 mile
trip worthwhile!"
Ian, from London, UK

"Penguin Days are a fantastic opportunity to get together with a wide
variety of people and understand more about the issues that surround 
open source.  Unlike a lot of conference/gatherings, the emphasis in 
these is on meeting people and making connections that you carry out of 
them room.  And that works.Marnie from San Francisco

"Now on to Penguin Day... Wow. For my part I was impressed by the
international scope of the audience, folks from Great Britain, Canada,
Kenya, Turkey, Ghana, Chicago and all points in between. The energy was
great and the range of topics on the agenda meant there was something 
for everyone....suffice it to say Penguin Day set the mark against which 
all other events will be measured in my mind."
John from Chicago

**** I Love It! How Can I Get Involved? ********

We'd love to have YOU:  Register at http://newyork.penguinday.org.
If you would like to talk to us about facilitating a session on a topic 
you are passionate about, email us at agenda@penguinday org!


***Questions?****
Don't hesitate to contact us at in...@pe... or by calling
413-884-0094 (Aspiration).


We look forward to seeing you at Penguin Day New York,

Katrin and Gunner at Aspiration, Amanda at the LINC Project, and Arti at
Teaming for Technology for the New York Penguin Day Working Group

Penguin Days are made possible by the generous support of IBM 
Corporation, in-kind support by local partners, and Aspiration.

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] updates/new demo

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

That sounds good. although - I wonder if having this functionality in 
lightningbug is really worth it. If our cron job has to move and remove 
a file anyway - we could just have it move index.php to index.php.down 
and move no-access.html to index.html (and in reverse when it finishes). 
It would make the cron job a tiny bit more complex but would not involve 
any change to lb.
jamie
p.s. I saw a demo once that had a nice little javascript countdown to 
the next db wipe (there's was timed for Midnight UCT). That would help 
with the other little problem of someone having their feet swept out 
from under them while in the middle of vetting or posting something.



Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> awesome, jamie.  this looks great.  nice and clean.  i'm happy to help
> with the cron-job wipe/restore, if you want to talk about it.  Seems
> like we should put up a "site down for maintenance" message, flush the
> db, reload from a base db, and then remove the "site down for
> maintenance" message.  hrm.  we could auto-modify the config file, i
> suppose, but that seems messy.
> 
> here's a proposal:
> 
> we declare a specific filename (e.g. <lb-install-path>/no-access.html)
> and if that file exists, it gets displayed instead of anything else --
> no db hits, no nothing.
> 
> then the cron-job just has to move a file into place, do the db
> tear-down and rebuild, and then move the file back out of the way.
> 
> what do you think?
> 
> peace,
> 
> 	--dkg
> 
> PS
> i touched up the vetter-demo invite page to spell "vet" correctly :)
> 
> On April 13, jm...@ma... said:
> 
>  > Hi all -
>  > 
>  > I made a bunch of superficial changes to the code base - mostly to 
>  > improve the look of the default installation. It still has a way to go 
>  > (it no longer looks accidental, but now I'm afraid it's lost every shred 
>  > of character it might have had before). In the process I stripped all 
>  > the table tags and replaced with css. And I added a generic content 
>  > policy and vetter guidelines (stripped of cc.org stuff) and added them 
>  > to the cvs.
>  > 
>  > Finally - I tweaked the web site a bit and got the demo up and working 
>  > on dirt. Please check it out. It includes a little hack for inviting 
>  > yourself to become a vetter. (link from main site: 
>  > http://lightningbug.sf.net).
>  > 
>  > I'm thinking of adding a cron job to clear all data every night at 3:00 
>  > am EST. There is no way to delete yourself as a vetter (you can simply 
>  > put yourself on permanent vacation). Some people might not like the idea 
>  > of their email address being stored in perpituity on a demo server.
>  > 
>  > jamie
>  > 
>  > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] updates/new demo

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

awesome, jamie.  this looks great.  nice and clean.  i'm happy to help
with the cron-job wipe/restore, if you want to talk about it.  Seems
like we should put up a "site down for maintenance" message, flush the
db, reload from a base db, and then remove the "site down for
maintenance" message.  hrm.  we could auto-modify the config file, i
suppose, but that seems messy.

here's a proposal:

we declare a specific filename (e.g. <lb-install-path>/no-access.html)
and if that file exists, it gets displayed instead of anything else --
no db hits, no nothing.

then the cron-job just has to move a file into place, do the db
tear-down and rebuild, and then move the file back out of the way.

what do you think?

peace,

	--dkg

PS
i touched up the vetter-demo invite page to spell "vet" correctly :)

On April 13, jm...@ma... said:

 > Hi all -
 > 
 > I made a bunch of superficial changes to the code base - mostly to 
 > improve the look of the default installation. It still has a way to go 
 > (it no longer looks accidental, but now I'm afraid it's lost every shred 
 > of character it might have had before). In the process I stripped all 
 > the table tags and replaced with css. And I added a generic content 
 > policy and vetter guidelines (stripped of cc.org stuff) and added them 
 > to the cvs.
 > 
 > Finally - I tweaked the web site a bit and got the demo up and working 
 > on dirt. Please check it out. It includes a little hack for inviting 
 > yourself to become a vetter. (link from main site: 
 > http://lightningbug.sf.net).
 > 
 > I'm thinking of adding a cron job to clear all data every night at 3:00 
 > am EST. There is no way to delete yourself as a vetter (you can simply 
 > put yourself on permanent vacation). Some people might not like the idea 
 > of their email address being stored in perpituity on a demo server.
 > 
 > jamie
 > 
 > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] updates/new demo

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

awesome work jamie! i'll play around with it as soon as i can

On 4/13/05, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> Hi all -
>=20
> I made a bunch of superficial changes to the code base - mostly to
> improve the look of the default installation. It still has a way to go
> (it no longer looks accidental, but now I'm afraid it's lost every shred
> of character it might have had before). In the process I stripped all
> the table tags and replaced with css. And I added a generic content
> policy and vetter guidelines (stripped of cc.org stuff) and added them
> to the cvs.
>=20
> Finally - I tweaked the web site a bit and got the demo up and working
> on dirt. Please check it out. It includes a little hack for inviting
> yourself to become a vetter. (link from main site:
> http://lightningbug.sf.net).
>=20
> I'm thinking of adding a cron job to clear all data every night at 3:00
> am EST. There is no way to delete yourself as a vetter (you can simply
> put yourself on permanent vacation). Some people might not like the idea
> of their email address being stored in perpituity on a demo server.
>=20
> jamie
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[Lightningbug-devel] updates/new demo

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Hi all -

I made a bunch of superficial changes to the code base - mostly to 
improve the look of the default installation. It still has a way to go 
(it no longer looks accidental, but now I'm afraid it's lost every shred 
of character it might have had before). In the process I stripped all 
the table tags and replaced with css. And I added a generic content 
policy and vetter guidelines (stripped of cc.org stuff) and added them 
to the cvs.

Finally - I tweaked the web site a bit and got the demo up and working 
on dirt. Please check it out. It includes a little hack for inviting 
yourself to become a vetter. (link from main site: 
http://lightningbug.sf.net).

I'm thinking of adding a cron job to clear all data every night at 3:00 
am EST. There is no way to delete yourself as a vetter (you can simply 
put yourself on permanent vacation). Some people might not like the idea 
of their email address being stored in perpituity on a demo server.

jamie

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

> as much as i like lightningb.ug, i think we probably have better
> things to spend $60 + 17% VAT on for 2 years of registration.  That's
> a lot of roti.

awww Mom, i'll totally take care of lightningb.ug and feed it everyday
and give it fresh water, and uh, uh, uh, i'll love it and hold it and
call it george. also it sounds so good when you spell it out, 
lightning--bee--dot--you--gee

yeah, i hear ya, 60+  bucks every 2 years for a joke is a little much

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

let me just express my dismay at the fact that roti.org is taken by a
group that clearly doesn't understand the value of the name.

On April 6, dk...@fi... said:

 > i've just configured lightningbug.fifthhorseman.net to point to dirt's
 > IP address.  that should propagate to the authoritative nameservers
 > within 15 minutes, iirc, and from there, however long your caching
 > resolver takes to flush the old NXDOMAIN responses.
 > 
 > as much as i like lightningb.ug, i think we probably have better
 > things to spend $60 + 17% VAT on for 2 years of registration.  That's
 > a lot of roti.
 > 
 > peace,
 > 
 > 	--dkg
 > 
 > 
 > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 > 
 >  >   lightningb.ug sounds lovely, i 3rd or 4th the opinion to stay away
 >  > from counterconvention
 >  > 
 >  > http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net might work too or other things
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  > On Apr 6, 2005 1:39 PM, Dan Check <da...@jl...> wrote:
 >  > > I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
 >  > > with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.
 >  > > 
 >  > > Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
 >  > > President Museveni.
 >  > > 
 >  > > Thanks,
 >  > > Dan
 >  > > 
 >  > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 >  > > 
 >  > > >for $30/year, we can register
 >  > > >
 >  > > >  lightningb.ug
 >  > > >
 >  > > >with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
 >  > > >we run our own name servers)...
 >  > > >
 >  > > >       --dkg
 >  > > >
 >  > > >On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
 >  > > >
 >  > > > > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt.
 >  > > > > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would
 >  > > > > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org
 >  > > > > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along
 >  > > > > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my
 >  > > > > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and
 >  > > > > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > fyi.. the following domains are available:
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > rotisaregood.org
 >  > > > > rotifactory.org
 >  > > > > rotirealrealyum.org
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > jamie
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 >  > > > > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > >   --dkg
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
 >  > > > > >  > mark
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 >  > > > > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 >  > > > > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 >  > > > > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 >  > > > > >  > > cron service.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 >  > > > > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 >  > > > > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 >  > > > > >  > > think??
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Jamie
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
 >  > > > > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 >  > > > > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 >  > > > > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 >  > > > > >  > > To: no...@so...
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 >  > > > > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 >  > > > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 >  > > > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
 >  > > > > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
 >  > > > > >  > > >Status: Closed
 >  > > > > >  > > >Priority: 5
 >  > > > > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 >  > > > > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 >  > > > > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Initial Comment:
 >  > > > > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Says:
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 >  > > > > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 >  > > > > >  > > content management system).
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 >  > > > > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 >  > > > > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
 >  > > > > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 >  > > > > >  > > not working.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 >  > > > > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 >  > > > > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 >  > > > > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 >  > > > > >  > > the email.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 >  > > > > >  > > doing something wrong.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Thanks!
 >  > > > > >  > > Jamie
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 >  > > > > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Message:
 >  > > > > >  > > Logged In: YES
 >  > > > > >  > > user_id=1243797
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Greetings,
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 >  > > > > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 >  > > > > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 >  > > > > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 >  > > > > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
 >  > > > > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
 >  > > > > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > Thank you,
 >  > > > > >  > > SourceForge.net support
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 >  > > > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > > > > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > > > > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > > > > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > > > > >  > > _______________________________________________
 >  > > > > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > > > > >  > > Lig...@li...
 >  > > > > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 >  > > > > >  > >
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  >
 >  > > > > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > >  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > > > > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > > > > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > > > > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > > > > >  > _______________________________________________
 >  > > > > >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > > > > >  > Lig...@li...
 >  > > > > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > >
 >  > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > > > > > _______________________________________________
 >  > > > > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > > > > > Lig...@li...
 >  > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > >
 >  > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > > > > _______________________________________________
 >  > > > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > > > > Lig...@li...
 >  > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 >  > > >
 >  > > >
 >  > > >-------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > > >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > > >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > > >_______________________________________________
 >  > > >Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > > >Lig...@li...
 >  > > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 >  > > >
 >  > > >
 >  > > 
 >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > > _______________________________________________
 >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > > Lig...@li...
 >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 >  > >
 >  > 
 >  > 
 >  > -------------------------------------------------------
 >  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 >  > _______________________________________________
 >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 >  > Lig...@li...
 >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > 
 > 
 > -------------------------------------------------------
 > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > _______________________________________________
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 > Lig...@li...
 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

i've just configured lightningbug.fifthhorseman.net to point to dirt's
IP address.  that should propagate to the authoritative nameservers
within 15 minutes, iirc, and from there, however long your caching
resolver takes to flush the old NXDOMAIN responses.

as much as i like lightningb.ug, i think we probably have better
things to spend $60 + 17% VAT on for 2 years of registration.  That's
a lot of roti.

peace,

	--dkg


On April 6, lib...@gm... said:

 >   lightningb.ug sounds lovely, i 3rd or 4th the opinion to stay away
 > from counterconvention
 > 
 > http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net might work too or other things
 > 
 > 
 > On Apr 6, 2005 1:39 PM, Dan Check <da...@jl...> wrote:
 > > I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
 > > with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.
 > > 
 > > Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
 > > President Museveni.
 > > 
 > > Thanks,
 > > Dan
 > > 
 > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > 
 > > >for $30/year, we can register
 > > >
 > > >  lightningb.ug
 > > >
 > > >with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
 > > >we run our own name servers)...
 > > >
 > > >       --dkg
 > > >
 > > >On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
 > > >
 > > > > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt.
 > > > > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would
 > > > > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org
 > > > > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along
 > > > > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my
 > > > > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and
 > > > > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
 > > > >
 > > > > fyi.. the following domains are available:
 > > > >
 > > > > rotisaregood.org
 > > > > rotifactory.org
 > > > > rotirealrealyum.org
 > > > >
 > > > > jamie
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > > > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
 > > > > >
 > > > > >   --dkg
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
 > > > > >  > mark
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 > > > > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 > > > > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 > > > > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 > > > > >  > > cron service.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 > > > > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 > > > > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 > > > > >  > > think??
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Jamie
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
 > > > > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 > > > > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 > > > > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 > > > > >  > > To: no...@so...
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 > > > > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 > > > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
 > > > > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
 > > > > >  > > >Status: Closed
 > > > > >  > > >Priority: 5
 > > > > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 > > > > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > > > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Initial Comment:
 > > > > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Says:
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 > > > > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 > > > > >  > > content management system).
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 > > > > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 > > > > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
 > > > > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 > > > > >  > > not working.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 > > > > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 > > > > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 > > > > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 > > > > >  > > the email.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 > > > > >  > > doing something wrong.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Thanks!
 > > > > >  > > Jamie
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > > > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Message:
 > > > > >  > > Logged In: YES
 > > > > >  > > user_id=1243797
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Greetings,
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 > > > > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 > > > > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 > > > > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 > > > > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
 > > > > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
 > > > > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > Thank you,
 > > > > >  > > SourceForge.net support
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > > > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > > > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > > > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > > > >  > > _______________________________________________
 > > > > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > > > >  > > Lig...@li...
 > > > > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > > > >  > >
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  >
 > > > > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > >  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > > > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > > > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > > > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > > > >  > _______________________________________________
 > > > > >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > > > >  > Lig...@li...
 > > > > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > > > > _______________________________________________
 > > > > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > > > > Lig...@li...
 > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > > > _______________________________________________
 > > > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > > > Lig...@li...
 > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >-------------------------------------------------------
 > > >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > >_______________________________________________
 > > >Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > >Lig...@li...
 > > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > >
 > > >
 > > 
 > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > _______________________________________________
 > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > Lig...@li...
 > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > >
 > 
 > 
 > -------------------------------------------------------
 > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > _______________________________________________
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 > Lig...@li...
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

  lightningb.ug sounds lovely, i 3rd or 4th the opinion to stay away
from counterconvention

http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net might work too or other things


On Apr 6, 2005 1:39 PM, Dan Check <da...@jl...> wrote:
> I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
> with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.
> 
> Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
> President Museveni.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> 
> >for $30/year, we can register
> >
> >  lightningb.ug
> >
> >with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
> >we run our own name servers)...
> >
> >       --dkg
> >
> >On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
> >
> > > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt.
> > > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would
> > > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org
> > > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along
> > > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my
> > > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and
> > > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
> > >
> > > fyi.. the following domains are available:
> > >
> > > rotisaregood.org
> > > rotifactory.org
> > > rotirealrealyum.org
> > >
> > > jamie
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> > > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
> > > >
> > > >   --dkg
> > > >
> > > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
> > > >
> > > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
> > > >  >
> > > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
> > > >  >
> > > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
> > > >  > mark
> > > >  >
> > > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> > > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
> > > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
> > > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
> > > >  > > cron service.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
> > > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
> > > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
> > > >  > > think??
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Jamie
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
> > > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
> > > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
> > > >  > > To: no...@so...
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
> > > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
> > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
> > > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
> > > >  > > >Status: Closed
> > > >  > > >Priority: 5
> > > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
> > > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Initial Comment:
> > > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Says:
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
> > > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
> > > >  > > content management system).
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
> > > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
> > > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
> > > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
> > > >  > > not working.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
> > > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
> > > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
> > > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
> > > >  > > the email.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
> > > >  > > doing something wrong.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Thanks!
> > > >  > > Jamie
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Message:
> > > >  > > Logged In: YES
> > > >  > > user_id=1243797
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Greetings,
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
> > > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
> > > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
> > > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
> > > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
> > > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
> > > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > Thank you,
> > > >  > > SourceForge.net support
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
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> > > >  > >
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Dan C. <da...@jl...>]

I think this or a different wholly owned domain makes sense.  I agree
with Jamie that we shouldn't use counterconvention.org.

Also, this will allow us to show solidarity with the government of
President Museveni. 

Thanks,
Dan

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:

>for $30/year, we can register
>
>  lightningb.ug
>
>with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
>we run our own name servers)...
>
>	--dkg
>
>On April 6, jm...@ma... said:
>
> > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt. 
> > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would 
> > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org 
> > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along 
> > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my 
> > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and 
> > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
> > 
> > fyi.. the following domains are available:
> > 
> > rotisaregood.org
> > rotifactory.org
> > rotirealrealyum.org
> > 
> > jamie
> > 
> > 
> > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
> > > 
> > > 	--dkg
> > > 
> > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
> > > 
> > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
> > >  > 
> > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
> > >  > 
> > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
> > >  > mark
> > >  > 
> > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
> > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
> > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
> > >  > > cron service.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
> > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
> > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
> > >  > > think??
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Jamie
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
> > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
> > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
> > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
> > >  > > To: no...@so...
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
> > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
> > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
> > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
> > >  > > >Status: Closed
> > >  > > >Priority: 5
> > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
> > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Initial Comment:
> > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Says:
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
> > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
> > >  > > content management system).
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
> > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
> > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
> > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
> > >  > > not working.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
> > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
> > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
> > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
> > >  > > the email.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
> > >  > > doing something wrong.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Thanks!
> > >  > > Jamie
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Message:
> > >  > > Logged In: YES
> > >  > > user_id=1243797
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Greetings,
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
> > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
> > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
> > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
> > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
> > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
> > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > Thank you,
> > >  > > SourceForge.net support
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
> > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > >  > > _______________________________________________
> > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > >  > > Lig...@li...
> > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > >  > >
> > >  > 
> > >  > 
> > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > >  > _______________________________________________
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> > >  > Lig...@li...
> > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > > Lig...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
> > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
> > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
> > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
> > Lig...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
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>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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>  
>

Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

for $30/year, we can register

  lightningb.ug

with uganda's registry, and do anything we want to with it (assuming
we run our own name servers)...

	--dkg

On April 6, jm...@ma... said:

 > Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt. 
 > Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would 
 > be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org 
 > or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along 
 > the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my 
 > muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and 
 > lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.
 > 
 > fyi.. the following domains are available:
 > 
 > rotisaregood.org
 > rotifactory.org
 > rotirealrealyum.org
 > 
 > jamie
 > 
 > 
 > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 > > Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
 > > 
 > > 	--dkg
 > > 
 > > On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
 > > 
 > >  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 > >  > 
 > >  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 > >  > 
 > >  > thanks for all the work jaime,
 > >  > mark
 > >  > 
 > >  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 > >  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 > >  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 > >  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 > >  > > cron service.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 > >  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 > >  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 > >  > > think??
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Jamie
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > -------- Original Message --------
 > >  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 > >  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 > >  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 > >  > > To: no...@so...
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 > >  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Category: Project Web Services
 > >  > > >Group: First Level Support
 > >  > > >Status: Closed
 > >  > > >Priority: 5
 > >  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 > >  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > >  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Initial Comment:
 > >  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Says:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 > >  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 > >  > > content management system).
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 > >  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 > >  > > email address via the web and then receive a
 > >  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 > >  > > not working.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 > >  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 > >  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 > >  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 > >  > > the email.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 > >  > > doing something wrong.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Thanks!
 > >  > > Jamie
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > >  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Message:
 > >  > > Logged In: YES
 > >  > > user_id=1243797
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Greetings,
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 > >  > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 > >  > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 > >  > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 > >  > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
 > >  > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
 > >  > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > Thank you,
 > >  > > SourceForge.net support
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > You can respond by visiting:
 > >  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > >  > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > >  > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > >  > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > >  > > _______________________________________________
 > >  > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > >  > > Lig...@li...
 > >  > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > >  > >
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > -------------------------------------------------------
 > >  > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > >  > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > >  > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > >  > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > >  > _______________________________________________
 > >  > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > >  > Lig...@li...
 > >  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > > 
 > > 
 > > -------------------------------------------------------
 > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
 > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click
 > > _______________________________________________
 > > Lightningbug-devel mailing list
 > > Lig...@li...
 > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lightningbug-devel
 > 
 > 
 > -------------------------------------------------------
 > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide
 > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users.
 > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Great. As soon as I have a free sec, I'll work on putting it on dirt. 
Which leads me to... any preferences on domain names? The easiest would 
be counterconvention.org/lb-demo or lightningbug.counterconvention.org 
or something like that, but personally I would prefer something along 
the lines of http://lightningbug.fifthhorsemen.net. For some reason, my 
muddled mind prefers keeping a distinction between counterconvention and 
lightningbug. I also like a name that reminds us where the server is.

fyi.. the following domains are available:

rotisaregood.org
rotifactory.org
rotirealrealyum.org

jamie


Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.
> 
> 	--dkg
> 
> On April 6, lib...@gm... said:
> 
>  > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
>  > 
>  > if not mayfirst would also be capable
>  > 
>  > thanks for all the work jaime,
>  > mark
>  > 
>  > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
>  > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
>  > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
>  > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
>  > > cron service.
>  > > 
>  > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
>  > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
>  > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
>  > > think??
>  > > 
>  > > Jamie
>  > > 
>  > > -------- Original Message --------
>  > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
>  > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
>  > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
>  > > To: no...@so...
>  > > 
>  > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
>  > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
>  > > You can respond by visiting:
>  > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
>  > > 
>  > > Category: Project Web Services
>  > > >Group: First Level Support
>  > > >Status: Closed
>  > > >Priority: 5
>  > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
>  > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
>  > > >Summary: Project hosting question
>  > > 
>  > > Initial Comment:
>  > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
>  > > 
>  > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
>  > > 
>  > > Says:
>  > > 
>  > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
>  > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
>  > > content management system).
>  > > 
>  > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
>  > > 
>  > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
>  > > however, the software requires users to enter their
>  > > email address via the web and then receive a
>  > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
>  > > not working.
>  > > 
>  > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
>  > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
>  > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
>  > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
>  > > the email.
>  > > 
>  > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
>  > > doing something wrong.
>  > > 
>  > > Thanks!
>  > > Jamie
>  > > 
>  > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > > 
>  > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
>  > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
>  > > 
>  > > Message:
>  > > Logged In: YES
>  > > user_id=1243797
>  > > 
>  > > Greetings,
>  > > 
>  > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Daniel K. G. <dk...@fi...>]

Dirt is totally up for grabs.  and we know it can send e-mail.

	--dkg

On April 6, lib...@gm... said:

 > if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense
 > 
 > if not mayfirst would also be capable
 > 
 > thanks for all the work jaime,
 > mark
 > 
 > On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
 > > Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
 > > much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
 > > jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
 > > cron service.
 > > 
 > > I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
 > > that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
 > > have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
 > > think??
 > > 
 > > Jamie
 > > 
 > > -------- Original Message --------
 > > Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
 > > Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
 > > From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
 > > To: no...@so...
 > > 
 > > Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
 > > Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
 > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > 
 > > Category: Project Web Services
 > > >Group: First Level Support
 > > >Status: Closed
 > > >Priority: 5
 > > Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
 > > Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > >Summary: Project hosting question
 > > 
 > > Initial Comment:
 > > Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
 > > 
 > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
 > > 
 > > Says:
 > > 
 > > Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
 > > via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
 > > content management system).
 > > 
 > > Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
 > > 
 > > We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
 > > however, the software requires users to enter their
 > > email address via the web and then receive a
 > > confirmation email message before continuing. This is
 > > not working.
 > > 
 > > When testing - I created a simple php script to send
 > > mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
 > > from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
 > > exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
 > > the email.
 > > 
 > > Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
 > > doing something wrong.
 > > 
 > > Thanks!
 > > Jamie
 > > 
 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > 
 > > >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
 > > Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
 > > 
 > > Message:
 > > Logged In: YES
 > > user_id=1243797
 > > 
 > > Greetings,
 > > 
 > > The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
 > > (link in left navbar); text shown below:
 > > 
 > > ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
 > > 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
 > > content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
 > > a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
 > > services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
 > > 
 > > Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
 > > matter, please add a comment to this request.
 > > 
 > > Thank you,
 > > SourceForge.net support
 > > 
 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > 
 > > You can respond by visiting:
 > > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
 > > 
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Re: [Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Mark L. <lib...@gm...>]

if daniel is down with dirt i think that makes the most sense

if not mayfirst would also be capable

thanks for all the work jaime,
mark

On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, Jamie McClelland <jm...@ma...> wrote:
> Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty
> much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron
> jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no
> cron service.
> 
> I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do
> that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already
> have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people
> think??
> 
> Jamie
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
> From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
> To: no...@so...
> 
> Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
> Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
> You can respond by visiting:
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> 
> Category: Project Web Services
> >Group: First Level Support
> >Status: Closed
> >Priority: 5
> Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
> Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> >Summary: Project hosting question
> 
> Initial Comment:
> Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email
> 
> Says:
> 
> Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
> via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
> content management system).
> 
> Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?
> 
> We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
> however, the software requires users to enter their
> email address via the web and then receive a
> confirmation email message before continuing. This is
> not working.
> 
> When testing - I created a simple php script to send
> mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
> from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
> exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
> the email.
> 
> Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
> doing something wrong.
> 
> Thanks!
> Jamie
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> >Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
> Date: 2005-04-05 16:49
> 
> Message:
> Logged In: YES
> user_id=1243797
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
> (link in left navbar); text shown below:
> 
> ( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
> 2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
> content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
> a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
> services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.
> 
> Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
> matter, please add a comment to this request.
> 
> Thank you,
> SourceForge.net support
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> You can respond by visiting:
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1
> 
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> Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now.
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[Lightningbug-devel] update on email...

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Hi all - Looks like email is out - so hosting the demo on sf is pretty 
much out. They say it is temporary, but they said that about their cron 
jobs too (that was last summer). Last I check a couple months ago, no 
cron service.

I just got approval to host it on May First - if people want, we can do 
that. Although - Daniel - is hosting on dirt an option? (and we already 
have ssh accounts there and the cvs repository is there). What do people 
think??

Jamie


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [ alexandria-Support Requests-1175574 ] Project hosting question
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:49:48 -0700
From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...>
To: no...@so...

Support Requests item #1175574, was opened at 2005-04-02 18:57
Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by zigler
You can respond by visiting:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1

Category: Project Web Services
>Group: First Level Support
>Status: Closed
>Priority: 5
Submitted By: Jamie McClelland (jamiemcclelland)
Assigned to: Erich Zigler (zigler)
>Summary: Project hosting question

Initial Comment:
Is a web-based project allowed to send outgoing email?

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#service_outbound_email

Says:

Projects are prohibited from providing mail services
via project web (i.e. using the Webmail module of a
content management system).

Does that mean no outgoing mail at all?

We'd like to host a demo of our project on Sourceforge,
however, the software requires users to enter their
email address via the web and then receive a
confirmation email message before continuing. This is
not working.

When testing - I created a simple php script to send
mail. When I execute it while logged into shell.sf.net
from the command line it works fine. When I hit the
exact same script using a web browser, I never receive
the email.

Please let me know if this is by design or whether I'm
doing something wrong.

Thanks!
Jamie



----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Erich Zigler (zigler)
Date: 2005-04-05 16:49

Message:
Logged In: YES
user_id=1243797

Greetings,

The issue you have cited is covered by the Site Status page
(link in left navbar); text shown below:

( 2005-01-13 10:12:24 - Project Web Service )   As of
2005-01-13 we have disabled the ability for project web
content to send out e-mail. This action was taken to resolve
a problem caused by spam generated from the project web
services. We hope to restore this as soon as possible.

Should you have further questions or concerns regarding this
matter, please add a comment to this request.

Thank you,
SourceForge.net support

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1

[Lightningbug-devel] where to put the documentation

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Hi all-

forgot to add...

Daniel, Mark and I had a work day last saturday. We ate rotis.

We also started a discussion about where to ultimately put the 
documentation. Right now we have a good short term solution:

* All documentation is in the wiki on Amanda's server.
* Amanda wrote a script to pull the documentation from the wiki into a 
single file, which is how we have a documentation snap shot on the 
lightningbug web site right now.

Long term, we suggested two options:

* Permanently keep the documentation in a wiki (Amanda might not want 
this to be her server - also as a group we might want this hosted on 
sourceforge - all options). Advantages: easy to contribute, easy to use. 
Disadvantages: hard to track versioning/link to version of code, can't 
bundle with releases.

* Take the existing documentation, break it into single html files, and 
add it the CVS. Advantagese: one system for code and documentation, easy 
to track versions. Disadvantages: hard to get other people to contribute 
to it.

What are people's thoughts?

Jamie

[Lightningbug-devel] update on demo

[Jamie M. <jm...@ma...>]

Hi all - fyi... I submitted a support ticket to sourceforge last weekend 
because I can't get lb to send me email. As soon as I figure this out, I 
should have the demo up and going (or maybe we'll need to host the demo 
somewhere else).

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=200001&aid=1175574&group_id=1


Jamie