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Re: [Libvisual-devel] VisParamContainer question

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Hello!

I am very delighted to see that you are rendering libvisual within the
Gmerlin visualizer, super cool stuff!

Parameters:
There is no nth parameter function because parameters are entered in a
hashmap by their name. You can iterate this hashmap tho!

visual_collection_foreach_do (VISUAL_COLLECTION(&paramcontainer->entries),
VisHashmapChainEntry *entry)
{
 char *name = entry->key.key.string;
 VisParamEntry *paramEntry = VISUAL_PARAMENTRY(entry->data);
} visual_collection_foreach_end;

I have to admit that I didn't test this, and also won't deny that this
should have been much easier.

Another (half completed) feature is the VisUI stuff that plugins can expose
which is an abstract representation of the configuration UI.

you can access the VisUI by calling: VisUIWidget *widget =
visual_plugin_get_userinterface (visual_actor_get_plugin (actor));

There is a not finished gtk driver for this in CVS, lvwidgets package.

Good luck! and if you have more questions please go ahead!

Cheers,
Dennis


On 10/31/07, Burkhard Plaum <pl...@ip...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> after a complete rewrite of the Gmerlin visualizer, I'm now able to render
> all libvisual plugins I tried. Everything works perfectly up to now.
>
> Now I want to support parameters: As far as I understand, I get a
> VisParamContainer from a plugin, which describes all parameters a plugin
> accepts. But how can I get a list of all parameters (name, type, limits)?
>
> There is a function visual_param_container_get(), which returns
> a VisParamEntry (which is probably what I need), but for that, I need
> to know the name. What I miss is something like:
>
> int visual_param_container_get_num(VisParamContainer *paramcontainer);
> VisParamEntry * visual_param_container_get_nth(VisParamContainer
> *paramcontainer, int);
>
> What's the official way to query all supported parameters from a plugin?
>
> Burkhard
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[Libvisual-devel] VisParamContainer question

[Burkhard P. <pl...@ip...>]

Hi,

after a complete rewrite of the Gmerlin visualizer, I'm now able to render
all libvisual plugins I tried. Everything works perfectly up to now.

Now I want to support parameters: As far as I understand, I get a
VisParamContainer from a plugin, which describes all parameters a plugin
accepts. But how can I get a list of all parameters (name, type, limits)?

There is a function visual_param_container_get(), which returns
a VisParamEntry (which is probably what I need), but for that, I need
to know the name. What I miss is something like:

int visual_param_container_get_num(VisParamContainer *paramcontainer);
VisParamEntry * visual_param_container_get_nth(VisParamContainer *paramcontainer, int);

What's the official way to query all supported parameters from a plugin?

Burkhard

[Libvisual-devel] libvisual on OLPC

[Darko I. <dar...@gm...>]

Hi,

My name is Darko Ilic, I'm a SoC student working with the Oregon State
Uni Open Source Lab on media player activity for OLPC project.

We're thinking about adding visualizations to audio player so I'm
considering your libvisual for the purpose.

My first question is about hardware requirements. Since XO machines
will be powered by AMD Geode LX-700 (433 MHz) I'm wondering are there
any visualizations we could run without much trouble.

I did some benchmarking with visualizations that come with amarok and
all of them are probably too much for XOs (they take 30-90% of my
PentiumM 1.6Gz CPU). Writing low-requirements visualization plugin for
XO is an option but I need you to tell me is it doable and if it is I
would ask for your estimation of the size of the project.

If this is anyhow relevant, we are using helix engine and the player
itself is written in python using python bindings for helix player.

Since I'm quite new to this kind of projects I would appreciate any
kind of advice you could give me.

I have checked out libvisual source and libvisual-hackground and I'm
trying to figure it out by my self but if you could point me to some
piece of code or documentation that would help me start, I would be
very very thankful.

Cheers,
-- 
Darko Ilic

Re: [Libvisual-devel] 64 bit crashes (2)

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Please fill this one and the other at the bug tracker at
www.sf.net/projects/libvisual

Thanks


On 6/8/07, sal...@xs... <sal...@xs...> wrote:
>
> There is a crash in jess:
>
> #0  0x00002aaaaab74915 in render_deformation ()
>    from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_JESS.so
> #1  0x00002aaaaab753cc in renderer ()
>    from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_JESS.so
> #2  0x00002aaaaab74011 in act_jess_render ()
>    from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_JESS.so
> #3  0x00002b7f1cada7ff in visual_actor_run ()
>    from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4.so.0
>
>
> Regards,
> Gabriel.
> http://lives.sourceforge.net
>
>
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[Libvisual-devel] 64 bit crashes (2)

[<sal...@xs...>]

There is a crash in jess:

#0  0x00002aaaaab74915 in render_deformation ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_JESS.so
#1  0x00002aaaaab753cc in renderer ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_JESS.so
#2  0x00002aaaaab74011 in act_jess_render ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_JESS.so
#3  0x00002b7f1cada7ff in visual_actor_run ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4.so.0


Regards,
Gabriel.
http://lives.sourceforge.net

[Libvisual-devel] 64 bit crashes (1)

[<sal...@xs...>]

Hi guys,
I just got a 64 bit machine to do some testing on.

gforce crashes straight away; here is the backtrace:

#0  0x00002aaaaada6d20 in UtilStr::getCStr ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#1  0x00002aaaaada76eb in UtilStr::compareTo ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#2  0x00002aaaaada9e9e in XPtrList::FetchPredIndex ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#3  0x00002aaaaadaa845 in XStrList::FindIndexOf ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#4  0x00002aaaaadaa9cb in XStrList::Add ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#5  0x00002aaaaada5d87 in FileSpecList::AddCopy ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#6  0x00002aaaaad8eb8e in GForce::BuildConfigLists ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#7  0x00002aaaaad93de8 in GForce::GForce ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#8  0x00002aaaaadac77e in lv_gforce_init ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_gforce.so
#9  0x00002b6fb0a1f6a2 in visual_plugin_realize ()
   from /usr/lib64/libvisual-0.4.so.0


Let me know if you need more info. I`ll post more bug reports if I find any.

Cheers,
Salsaman.
http://lives.sourceforge.net

[Libvisual-devel] Some libvisual-plugins fixes

[David L. <u0...@ab...>]

Hi,

I found a few bugs in libvisual-plugins, patches attached.

First is pretty trivial: the lv_analyzer plugin doesn't get build due to a
small error in configure.ac.

Second is to fix library linking: the Makefile.ams use the LIBS variable
to specify the libraries to be linked in, but LIBADD should be used
instead.  In cases where LIBS is set globally it works anyway (AIUI this
variable is supposed to be set by configure, so does get used), but
automake doesn't recognise it in the form actor_foo_la_LIBS.  The result
is that the OpenGL plugins don't actually get linked against libGL.

Third is an 64-bit fix for JESS.

Fourth is a partial 64-bit fix for G-Force - it's enough to make the
plugin to run without crashing, but I couldn't get it to work properly. 
I'm sending it anyway so that if someone else wants to fix it (I might try
again myself some time, but no promises...) they don't have to start from
scratch.  Note that I'm not sure if all the changes are needed - to be
honest, I just got sick of messing with it, and just saved what I already
had - but I'm pretty sure they won't break it on platforms where it
already works.

[Libvisual-devel] LiVES - bug in 0.9.8 fixed

[salsaman <sal...@xs...>]

Hi,
anybody who downloaded LiVES 0.9.8 is advised to re-download and reinstall.

I just fixed a serious bug with file loading and saving.

URLS:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/current/LiVES-0.9.8.tar.bz2
http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/current/LiVES-0.9.8.tar.gz


Regards,
Gabriel.
http://lives.sourceforge.net

[Libvisual-devel] LiVES 0.9.8 released

[salsaman <sal...@xs...>]

Hi all,
I have just released LiVES 0.9.8.


URLS:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/current/LiVES-0.9.8.tar.bz2
http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/current/LiVES-0.9.8.tar.gz

md5sums:
2bf6877a2e69b4f7d1a47e7b85cd985b LiVES-0.9.8.tar.bz2
5e951c74a497f686a2c8a07f80f77953 LiVES-0.9.8.tar.gz




Changes since 0.9.7
---------------------------
Add audio track and audio preferences to multitrack window.

Fix a layout save/load bug.

Fix trim_frame/add border (so it adds a border again)

Allow recording of audio events.

Fix undo cut after speed-changed audio has been deleted.

Added effect "bumpmap".

Added new "plasma" generator.

Fix crash in "textfun" effect.

Fix "alien_overlay" effect.

Compilation updates for IRIX platform.

Fix compilation on OSX/Darwin.

Updates for video jack.

Fix "snap to overlap" with mouse mode select.

Fixes for encoder/format selection boxes.

Fully updated Czech translation (thanks to Martin Svobodicz).

Much faster startup, set loading and set saving.

Added volume slider when using jack audio player.

Improved menubar transport buttons.

Added Fade audio in/out feature for clips in clip editor.

Fixed a crash when editing effects in multitrack by double clicking.

Allow optional saving/loading of width, height and audio values when
saving/loading a layout.

Allow adjustment of width, height and audio values in multitrack.

Add audio volume and pan effect in multitrack. This can be activated by
right clicking on an audio block.

Show audio volume parameters in multitrack. These are selected from the
View menu.

Faster audio rendering in multitrack.

Options to render only audio or only video in multitrack.

More accurate opening of file selections (remove workarounds for buggy
older versions of mplayer).

Improved realtime generator performance.

Improved real time effect performance.

Only set parameter node values for parameters which are changed.

New Feature: Record external audio to new clip.

New Feature: Record new audio for selection.

Option to grab audio when recording an external window.

Ability to set maximum record time and framerate when recording external
window.

Added a new font (Hiragana) to the "textfun" effect.

Finalise Weed audio spec. version 1.0

Finalise Weed event spec. version 1.0

Code cleanup.

Added optional support for liboil.

Updated Weed effects spec to 1.1.

Finalised LiVES clip header specification 1.0.

Fix compilation errors when compiling without jack.

Show a warning message when compiling without jack.

Update to jack >= 1.0

Show/hide audio track(s) from View menu.

Show/hide context box from View menu.

Add multitrack menu option Edit|Ignore selection limits when inserting
audio.

Fix crash in interpolation of boolean parameters.

Fixes for jack audio pause/unpause.

Fix crash if Preferences are opened with no clip loaded.

Adjust audio block start/end points and velocity.

Many other small fixes and gui improvements.


Gabriel.

[Libvisual-devel] jack inputs

[salsaman <sal...@xs...>]

>>    
>>
>If you need some help with jack, look at jack.c in LiVES, in particular 
>jack_open_device(). I will shortly be adding code to grab audio from jack.
>
>
>Hope this helps,
>Gabriel.
>
>
>  
>


Here you go, look at http://lives.cvs.sourceforge.net/lives/lives/src/jack.c

First I call jack_audio_read_init() [note that not all of the fields are 
actually used, for example, I don't use "mute" or "out_sample_rate" for 
my jack reader]. This is done when the app. starts up.

Then to initiate reading, I call:

jack_open_device_read() followed by jack_read_driver_activate(). This 
connects my jack inputs to the pcm_capture ports.

Jack will call the audio_read() callback each time a new audio buffer is 
ready. So you would presumably cache this somewhere in libvisual.

Finally, I call jack_close_device() to stop capture.


You can also look at audio.c, functions:
rec_audio_to_clip() and rec_audio_stop() to see how the jack functions 
are called.

Also in audio.c, you have the function:

sample_move_float_int() which will convert jack's float type samples to 
integer values if you need to.


HTH.

Gabriel.

[Libvisual-devel] jess crash/jack audio

[salsaman <sal...@xs...>]

lib...@li... wrote:

>==26348== Invalid read of size 8
>==26348==    at 0x1EB5C0DD: render_blur (renderer.c:436)
>==26348==    by 0x1EB5C1CA: renderer (renderer.c:120)
>==26348==    by 0x1EB5AD46: act_jess_render (jess.c:348)
>
>
>Gabriel.
>
>  
>


>Gabriel,
>
>A successful professional software developer as yourself knows that in order
>to track an software issue there can not be enough information for the
>developer. So I would like to request you to:
>
>a) Use a sane message topic
>b) Tell me if this is 32 bits or 64 bits.
>c) Tell me the screen depth you are using.
>d) Give me a link to the code that uses Libvisual so I can review.
>e) Tell me the VisVideo screen dimension that was used.
>
>Thanks a lot!
>
>Cheers,
>Dennis
>
>  
>
>  
>

32 bits, depth==24, screen size 640x480.

code is:

  visual_input_run (libvis->input);
  visual_video_set_buffer (libvis->video, pixel_data);
  visual_actor_run (libvis->actor, libvis->input->audio);

This generally runs OK.

>Hello Gabriel,
>
>Jack is not working at all in 0.4.0. I will be releasing a 0.4.1 within 6
>weeks that most
>likely includes a fix. Regarding the alsa issue, (this is where the crash
>is), I have
>been looking into this but I can not find a cause. Basically the alsa plugin
>crashes after you init/deinit/init it a few times within the same process...
>
>Maybe someone else on the list has more clue about this ???
>
>Cheers,
>Dennis
>
>  
>
If you need some help with jack, look at jack.c in LiVES, in particular 
jack_open_device(). I will shortly be adding code to grab audio from jack.


Hope this helps,
Gabriel.

Re: [Libvisual-devel] crash switching audio listeners

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Hello Gabriel,

Jack is not working at all in 0.4.0. I will be releasing a 0.4.1 within 6
weeks that most
likely includes a fix. Regarding the alsa issue, (this is where the crash
is), I have
been looking into this but I can not find a cause. Basically the alsa plugin
crashes after you init/deinit/init it a few times within the same process...

Maybe someone else on the list has more clue about this ???

Cheers,
Dennis



On 12/2/06, salsaman <sal...@xs...> wrote:
>
> switching listeners from jack->alsa->jack->alsa, caused the following
> crash:
>
>
>
>
>
> #0  do_lookup_x (undef_name=0xb5d7ebf4 "snd_config_update_free",
> hash=8018533, ref=0xb5d793f0, result=0xbfc9b3d8,
>     scope=0x1b, i=0, version=0x89cc428, flags=1, skip=0x0, type_class=1)
> at do-lookup.h:45
> #1  0xb7f91cf5 in _dl_lookup_symbol_x (undef_name=0xb5d7ebf4
> "snd_config_update_free", undef_map=0x89cc1a8,
>     ref=0xbfc9b410, symbol_scope=0x89e0120, version=0x89cc428,
> type_class=1, flags=1, skip_map=0x0)
>     at dl-lookup.c:233
> #2  0xb7f95591 in fixup (l=0x89cc1a8, reloc_offset=Variable
> "reloc_offset" is not available.
> ) at dl-runtime.c:98
> #3  0xb7f953a0 in _dl_runtime_resolve () at dl-runtime.c:136
> #4  0xb5d992e5 in snd_config_update_r () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
> #5  0xb5d996f6 in snd_config_update () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
> #6  0xb5e318d4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
> #7  0xb5e318d8 in snd_config () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
> #8  0x00000000 in ?? ()
>
>
>
> Gabriel.
>
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Re: [Libvisual-devel] another libvisual error

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Gabriel,

A successful professional software developer as yourself knows that in order
to track an software issue there can not be enough information for the
developer. So I would like to request you to:

a) Use a sane message topic
b) Tell me if this is 32 bits or 64 bits.
c) Tell me the screen depth you are using.
d) Give me a link to the code that uses Libvisual so I can review.
e) Tell me the VisVideo screen dimension that was used.

Thanks a lot!

Cheers,
Dennis

On 12/2/06, salsaman <sal...@xs...> wrote:
>
> libvisual 0.4.0 (as before):
>
> ==26348== Invalid read of size 8
> ==26348==    at 0x1EB5C0DD: render_blur (renderer.c:436)
> ==26348==    by 0x1EB5C1CA: renderer (renderer.c:120)
> ==26348==    by 0x1EB5AD46: act_jess_render (jess.c:348)
>
>
> Gabriel.
>
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[Libvisual-devel] another libvisual error

[salsaman <sal...@xs...>]

libvisual 0.4.0 (as before):

==26348== Invalid read of size 8
==26348==    at 0x1EB5C0DD: render_blur (renderer.c:436)
==26348==    by 0x1EB5C1CA: renderer (renderer.c:120)
==26348==    by 0x1EB5AD46: act_jess_render (jess.c:348)


Gabriel.

[Libvisual-devel] crash switching audio listeners

[salsaman <sal...@xs...>]

switching listeners from jack->alsa->jack->alsa, caused the following crash:





#0  do_lookup_x (undef_name=0xb5d7ebf4 "snd_config_update_free", 
hash=8018533, ref=0xb5d793f0, result=0xbfc9b3d8,
    scope=0x1b, i=0, version=0x89cc428, flags=1, skip=0x0, type_class=1) 
at do-lookup.h:45
#1  0xb7f91cf5 in _dl_lookup_symbol_x (undef_name=0xb5d7ebf4 
"snd_config_update_free", undef_map=0x89cc1a8,
    ref=0xbfc9b410, symbol_scope=0x89e0120, version=0x89cc428, 
type_class=1, flags=1, skip_map=0x0)
    at dl-lookup.c:233
#2  0xb7f95591 in fixup (l=0x89cc1a8, reloc_offset=Variable 
"reloc_offset" is not available.
) at dl-runtime.c:98
#3  0xb7f953a0 in _dl_runtime_resolve () at dl-runtime.c:136
#4  0xb5d992e5 in snd_config_update_r () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#5  0xb5d996f6 in snd_config_update () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#6  0xb5e318d4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#7  0xb5e318d8 in snd_config () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#8  0x00000000 in ?? ()



Gabriel.

Re: [Libvisual-devel] New website, cms roundup, mk1

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Ok,

What about security related issues, are there places where SQL injection or
something
similar might potentially happen (aka sensitive spots). I take for granted
that your CMS is not
very widely used, so it is also less well tested.

If you honestly without being biased can say that this is a good choice
could you implement a prototype ?

Thanks!

Cheers,
Dennis




On 11/21/06, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <ad...@le...> wrote:
>
> Tuesday 21 November 2006 21:02 skrev
> lib...@li...:
> > I looked at the Ark Linux site using Internet Explorer and I noticed
> that
> > it renders quite borked. Is this a problem with Ark Linux their website
> or
> > with Travelsized ?
>
> That is a problem with my layout for the website... The CMS itself is
> completely design agnostic :)
>
> > I do like Travelsized but my biggest problem is that you are the only
> one
> > (right?) working on it, and so it is  all but sure how it will do in the
> > future.
>
> Hmm... i am indeed the only one working on it, but i would not worry about
> its future... i have no plans of any sort about stopping development of it
> ;)
> Also, since it doesn't have a database backend, don't worry about the
> compatibility problems that sometimes occur there :)
>

Re: [Libvisual-devel] New website, cms roundup, mk1

[Dan L. T. J. <ad...@le...>]

Tuesday 21 November 2006 21:02 skrev 
lib...@li...:
> I looked at the Ark Linux site using Internet Explorer and I noticed that
> it renders quite borked. Is this a problem with Ark Linux their website or
> with Travelsized ? 

  That is a problem with my layout for the website... The CMS itself is 
completely design agnostic :)

> I do like Travelsized but my biggest problem is that you are the only one
> (right?) working on it, and so it is  all but sure how it will do in the
> future. 

  Hmm... i am indeed the only one working on it, but i would not worry about 
its future... i have no plans of any sort about stopping development of it ;) 
Also, since it doesn't have a database backend, don't worry about the 
compatibility problems that sometimes occur there :)

-- 
..Dan // Leinir..
http://www.leinir.dk/

"A Vast Swimmer Keeps No Pets"
 - Saemus Z. Harper, Andromeda 1:14

Re: [Libvisual-devel] New website, cms roundup, mk1

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

I looked at the Ark Linux site using Internet Explorer and I noticed that it
renders quite borked.
Is this a problem with Ark Linux their website or with Travelsized ? I do
like Travelsized but my biggest
problem is that you are the only one (right?) working on it, and so it is
all but sure how it will do in the future.


On 11/21/06, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <ad...@le...> wrote:
>
> Tuesday 21 November 2006 15:56 skrev Dennis Smit
>
> > The CMS sounds and looks nice.
>
> Thanks! :)
>
> > A few other requirements:
> > 1. Is there a nice way of adding NEWS items ?
>
> There is indeed - the blogging module takes care of news items as well :)
>
> > 2. Is it possible to easily manage screenshots.
>
> The gallery is designed to do that, both the Ark Linux site and
> Travelsized's own website use that :)
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Libvisual-devel] New website, cms roundup, mk1

[Dan L. T. J. <ad...@le...>]

Tuesday 21 November 2006 15:56 skrev Dennis Smit

> The CMS sounds and looks nice.

  Thanks! :)

> A few other requirements:
> 1. Is there a nice way of adding NEWS items ?

  There is indeed - the blogging module takes care of news items as well :)

> 2. Is it possible to easily manage screenshots.

  The gallery is designed to do that, both the Ark Linux site and 
Travelsized's own website use that :)

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Re: [Libvisual-devel] Website Proposal (sort of)

[Andrew G. <and...@gm...>]

No problem, just wanted to suggest. You're probably very wise going for
an existing solution :)

Andrew

Re: [Libvisual-devel] Website Proposal (sort of)

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Heya Andrew,

Good to hear from you!! I personally rather use an existing solution instead
of
writing a new CMS. We have had many website framework switches and I'd like
to pin this one down for atleast the upcoming years. Servers aren't the
problem
however I am doubtful about writing something from scratch. Please keep
participating
on the discussion tho!

Cheers,
Dennis



On 11/21/06, Andrew Godwin <and...@gm...> wrote:
>
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> Hello all. It's been a while since I've shown my face around here, but
> nevermind...
>
> Times change, and I'm once again in possession of too much free time.
> If travelsized CMS doesn't pan out, and if the server is capable of
> running it, I would be quite happy to write a Python-based CMS (PHP is
> really a nightmare). Of course, you need shell access on the server, a
> recent version of python installed, mod_rewrite and Apache 2, but
> given those rather narrow conditions, Python framework-based apps work
> great; I have a few running sites at the moment.
>
> Of course, this is probably overkill, and your server has a reasonable
> chance of not meeting the requirements, but I'd thought I'd put in the
> offer anyways. I seem to have become quite the Python fanatic in the
> last few years, and hopefully this email isn't going to hurt anyone.
> Don't look at me for PHP-based solutions, though; I've learnt my
> lesson there.
>
> Frameworks (of any sort) mean quick yet tailored development, and make
> adding features a lot, lot easier. The big project I'm currently
> working on has forums, wikis, user accounts and political simulation
> all in one big site, and thanks to frameworks I can write a basic wiki
> in less than a few hours, and forums in two days (BBCode is what gets
> you). If all you want is screenshots, news and some static information
> pages that's not very difficult; even WordPress satisfies that with
> the Gallery plugin,
>
> Just thought I'd offer. Good luck with libvisual in any case; eyecandy
> is always a good thing ;)
>
> Andrew
>
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[Libvisual-devel] Website Proposal (sort of)

[Andrew G. <and...@gm...>]

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Hello all. It's been a while since I've shown my face around here, but
nevermind...

Times change, and I'm once again in possession of too much free time.
If travelsized CMS doesn't pan out, and if the server is capable of
running it, I would be quite happy to write a Python-based CMS (PHP is
really a nightmare). Of course, you need shell access on the server, a
recent version of python installed, mod_rewrite and Apache 2, but
given those rather narrow conditions, Python framework-based apps work
great; I have a few running sites at the moment.

Of course, this is probably overkill, and your server has a reasonable
chance of not meeting the requirements, but I'd thought I'd put in the
offer anyways. I seem to have become quite the Python fanatic in the
last few years, and hopefully this email isn't going to hurt anyone.
Don't look at me for PHP-based solutions, though; I've learnt my
lesson there.

Frameworks (of any sort) mean quick yet tailored development, and make
adding features a lot, lot easier. The big project I'm currently
working on has forums, wikis, user accounts and political simulation
all in one big site, and thanks to frameworks I can write a basic wiki
in less than a few hours, and forums in two days (BBCode is what gets
you). If all you want is screenshots, news and some static information
pages that's not very difficult; even WordPress satisfies that with
the Gallery plugin,

Just thought I'd offer. Good luck with libvisual in any case; eyecandy
is always a good thing ;)

Andrew


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Re: [Libvisual-devel] Website

[Mike M. <inb...@ho...>]

OK.

I wish you luck then.

Michael



>From: "Dennis Smit" <den...@gm...>
>Reply-To: Mailing list for developers 
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>To: "Mailing list for developers" <lib...@li...>
>Subject: Re: [Libvisual-devel] Website
>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:07:56 +0100
>
>Hello,
>
>Thanks for responding. It is true that I'd like to see a new updated
>website. Hosting is not the problem,
>in fact we will co locate a server within 6 weeks ;) What we are looking 
>for
>is purely web developers that
>can create the new web site.
>
>Thanks,
>Dennis
>
>
>
>
>On 11/21/06, Mike Mientus <inb...@ho...> wrote:
>>
>>I want to start by saying that I don't have any advanced Web development
>>skills.  I am willing to help, but I was hoping to mediate between Dennis
>>and the old Web host.  Although from Dennis's e-mail it sounds like this
>>is
>>not an option.
>>
>>On the flip side, I have a shared hosting account on TextDrive.  Since I'm
>>not an experienced administrator I will not guarantee that this space will
>>be made available to Libvisual, but if I can compartmentalize my site then
>>I'd be willing to host the Libvisual Web site.
>>
>>For those of you not familiar with TextDrive, it is a cutting edge Web
>>host.
>>Among other things, they provide Ruby on Rails, SQL, and mailing list
>>support.  I'm sure it would make a good home for Libvisual assuming the
>>community has Ruby and not Python expertise.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Michael
>>
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Re: [Libvisual-devel] New website, cms roundup, mk1

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Heya,

The CMS sounds and looks nice.

A few other requirements:
1. Is there a nice way of adding NEWS items ?
2. Is it possible to easily manage screenshots.

Cheers,
Dennis




On 11/20/06, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <ad...@le...> wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> As requested by Dennis, i am writing with a short description of what
> Travelsized CMS can do:
>
> It can let you edit the site online, in different languages
> It does not require a database (some of the reason for the name)
> It has an extremely simple theming system, based around placeholders (so
> that
> you are not tied to one type of layout or another - all you need is
> somewhere to place the page content)
> It is used in a number of places already, some of which are listed on the
> website: http://leinir.dk/travelsized/
>
> --
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> http://www.leinir.dk/
>
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Re: [Libvisual-devel] Website

[Dennis S. <den...@gm...>]

Hello,

Thanks for responding. It is true that I'd like to see a new updated
website. Hosting is not the problem,
in fact we will co locate a server within 6 weeks ;) What we are looking for
is purely web developers that
can create the new web site.

Thanks,
Dennis




On 11/21/06, Mike Mientus <inb...@ho...> wrote:
>
> I want to start by saying that I don't have any advanced Web development
> skills.  I am willing to help, but I was hoping to mediate between Dennis
> and the old Web host.  Although from Dennis's e-mail it sounds like this
> is
> not an option.
>
> On the flip side, I have a shared hosting account on TextDrive.  Since I'm
> not an experienced administrator I will not guarantee that this space will
> be made available to Libvisual, but if I can compartmentalize my site then
> I'd be willing to host the Libvisual Web site.
>
> For those of you not familiar with TextDrive, it is a cutting edge Web
> host.
> Among other things, they provide Ruby on Rails, SQL, and mailing list
> support.  I'm sure it would make a good home for Libvisual assuming the
> community has Ruby and not Python expertise.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
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