Thread: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000
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From: Hugh B. <ebr...@ci...> - 2003-04-28 23:48:33
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Windows 2000 can't install some of the profiles I make. I get a messagebox that says "An error occurred while installing foo.icm. This is not a valid color profile." I made profiles using different scanner settings. profile 1 has maximum dE 1.77, peak 14.63, StdDev 2.18 - this one installs profile 2 has maximum dE 1.44, peak 11.33, StdDev 1.98 - this one gets the error I made the scandmo profile and it will install. I can load the profile in the profile checker and it does not complain. I can't see any obvious reason that Windows likes one profile and not the other. Any idea what is going on? |
From: Marti M. <ma...@li...> - 2003-04-29 08:43:35
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Hi, >I can load the profile in the profile checker and it does not complain. I > can't see any obvious reason that Windows likes one profile and not the other. > >Any idea what is going on? This is a know problem. Unfortunately, seems not a mistake of lcms but of Windows ICM. If you really needs the profile to be "installed", set the verbosity of profiler to minimum. But please note that "install" does nothing on Windows. The profile is never used by the OS. Is the application software who is responsible to do all operation with profile. And many applications (Adobe PhotoShop, for examples) completely surpasses windows ICM. Chris Cox, from Adobe have said many times ICM is too buggy to be useful. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Cox%2BICM%2Bbuggy Regards, Marti. |
From: Hugh B. <ebr...@ci...> - 2003-04-29 14:30:17
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Thanks for the fast reply. I already had the verbosity at minimum. Switching to 22 points instead of 33 got it to load. So I guess the 'fix' is: Change things at random until Microsoft likes the profile. I wrote a little C++ program a while back to wrap the (Microsoft) CMS InstallColorProfile() function to use as a custom action in the Microsoft Installer. If I get some time I'll expand it to look up the error. This might shed some light on what the Microsoft CMS is failing on. It is probably something idiotic like a field with an odd number of characters. Bugs in Microsoft software? I'm speechless! Next you'll be telling me that someone can take over my computer just by my clicking on a link or reading my mail. -----Original Message----- From: Marti Maria [mailto:ma...@li...] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:45 AM To: Hugh Brackett; Lcm...@li... Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Hi, >I can load the profile in the profile checker and it does not complain. I > can't see any obvious reason that Windows likes one profile and not the other. > >Any idea what is going on? This is a know problem. Unfortunately, seems not a mistake of lcms but of Windows ICM. If you really needs the profile to be "installed", set the verbosity of profiler to minimum. But please note that "install" does nothing on Windows. The profile is never used by the OS. Is the application software who is responsible to do all operation with profile. And many applications (Adobe PhotoShop, for examples) completely surpasses windows ICM. Chris Cox, from Adobe have said many times ICM is too buggy to be useful. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Cox%2BICM%2Bbu ggy Regards, Marti. |
From: Hugh B. <ebr...@ci...> - 2003-04-29 19:55:01
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I think I found what Microsoft does not like. All of the profiles that will install have Connection Space "Lab " in the header. All of the profiles that will not install have Connection Space "XYZ " in the header. What determines the connection space the profile will use? -----Original Message----- From: lcm...@li... [mailto:lcm...@li...]On Behalf Of Hugh Brackett Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:31 AM To: Marti Maria; Lcm...@li... Subject: RE: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Thanks for the fast reply. I already had the verbosity at minimum. Switching to 22 points instead of 33 got it to load. So I guess the 'fix' is: Change things at random until Microsoft likes the profile. I wrote a little C++ program a while back to wrap the (Microsoft) CMS InstallColorProfile() function to use as a custom action in the Microsoft Installer. If I get some time I'll expand it to look up the error. This might shed some light on what the Microsoft CMS is failing on. It is probably something idiotic like a field with an odd number of characters. Bugs in Microsoft software? I'm speechless! Next you'll be telling me that someone can take over my computer just by my clicking on a link or reading my mail. -----Original Message----- From: Marti Maria [mailto:ma...@li...] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:45 AM To: Hugh Brackett; Lcm...@li... Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Hi, >I can load the profile in the profile checker and it does not complain. I > can't see any obvious reason that Windows likes one profile and not the other. > >Any idea what is going on? This is a know problem. Unfortunately, seems not a mistake of lcms but of Windows ICM. If you really needs the profile to be "installed", set the verbosity of profiler to minimum. But please note that "install" does nothing on Windows. The profile is never used by the OS. Is the application software who is responsible to do all operation with profile. And many applications (Adobe PhotoShop, for examples) completely surpasses windows ICM. Chris Cox, from Adobe have said many times ICM is too buggy to be useful. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Cox%2BICM%2Bbu ggy Regards, Marti. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcm...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user |
From: Marti M. <ma...@li...> - 2003-04-30 08:28:23
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Hi, >I think I found what Microsoft does not like. > All of the profiles that will install have Connection Space "Lab " in the >header. >All of the profiles that will not install have Connection Space "XYZ " in >the header. Amazing. XYZ may be used as PCS following almost all ICC specs, since very ancient ones. > What determines the connection space the profile will use? The gamma of scanner. Gamma near 1.0 goes to XYZ. But of course this is an implementation detail and shouldn't make a difference. At least photoshop and others don't care... oh, well. Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Brackett" <ebr...@ci...> To: <Lcm...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 I think I found what Microsoft does not like. All of the profiles that will install have Connection Space "Lab " in the header. All of the profiles that will not install have Connection Space "XYZ " in the header. What determines the connection space the profile will use? -----Original Message----- From: lcm...@li... [mailto:lcm...@li...]On Behalf Of Hugh Brackett Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:31 AM To: Marti Maria; Lcm...@li... Subject: RE: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Thanks for the fast reply. I already had the verbosity at minimum. Switching to 22 points instead of 33 got it to load. So I guess the 'fix' is: Change things at random until Microsoft likes the profile. I wrote a little C++ program a while back to wrap the (Microsoft) CMS InstallColorProfile() function to use as a custom action in the Microsoft Installer. If I get some time I'll expand it to look up the error. This might shed some light on what the Microsoft CMS is failing on. It is probably something idiotic like a field with an odd number of characters. Bugs in Microsoft software? I'm speechless! Next you'll be telling me that someone can take over my computer just by my clicking on a link or reading my mail. -----Original Message----- From: Marti Maria [mailto:ma...@li...] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:45 AM To: Hugh Brackett; Lcm...@li... Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Hi, >I can load the profile in the profile checker and it does not complain. I > can't see any obvious reason that Windows likes one profile and not the other. > >Any idea what is going on? This is a know problem. Unfortunately, seems not a mistake of lcms but of Windows ICM. If you really needs the profile to be "installed", set the verbosity of profiler to minimum. But please note that "install" does nothing on Windows. The profile is never used by the OS. Is the application software who is responsible to do all operation with profile. And many applications (Adobe PhotoShop, for examples) completely surpasses windows ICM. Chris Cox, from Adobe have said many times ICM is too buggy to be useful. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Cox%2BICM%2Bbu ggy Regards, Marti. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcm...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcm...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user |
From: Hugh B. <ebr...@ci...> - 2003-04-30 15:51:29
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Another interesting thing is that a Kodak Colorflow profile I made for that same scanner (1.2 gamma though not with the same target) is in Lab space. Maybe that's all Kodak uses. Please consider adding an option in the scanner profiler to specify the connection space. -----Original Message----- From: Marti Maria [mailto:ma...@li...] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:30 AM To: Hugh Brackett; Lcm...@li... Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Hi, >I think I found what Microsoft does not like. > All of the profiles that will install have Connection Space "Lab " in the >header. >All of the profiles that will not install have Connection Space "XYZ " in >the header. Amazing. XYZ may be used as PCS following almost all ICC specs, since very ancient ones. > What determines the connection space the profile will use? The gamma of scanner. Gamma near 1.0 goes to XYZ. But of course this is an implementation detail and shouldn't make a difference. At least photoshop and others don't care... oh, well. Regards, Marti. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Brackett" <ebr...@ci...> To: <Lcm...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 I think I found what Microsoft does not like. All of the profiles that will install have Connection Space "Lab " in the header. All of the profiles that will not install have Connection Space "XYZ " in the header. What determines the connection space the profile will use? -----Original Message----- From: lcm...@li... [mailto:lcm...@li...]On Behalf Of Hugh Brackett Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:31 AM To: Marti Maria; Lcm...@li... Subject: RE: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Thanks for the fast reply. I already had the verbosity at minimum. Switching to 22 points instead of 33 got it to load. So I guess the 'fix' is: Change things at random until Microsoft likes the profile. I wrote a little C++ program a while back to wrap the (Microsoft) CMS InstallColorProfile() function to use as a custom action in the Microsoft Installer. If I get some time I'll expand it to look up the error. This might shed some light on what the Microsoft CMS is failing on. It is probably something idiotic like a field with an odd number of characters. Bugs in Microsoft software? I'm speechless! Next you'll be telling me that someone can take over my computer just by my clicking on a link or reading my mail. -----Original Message----- From: Marti Maria [mailto:ma...@li...] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:45 AM To: Hugh Brackett; Lcm...@li... Subject: Re: [Lcms-user] Problem installing profile on Windows 2000 Hi, >I can load the profile in the profile checker and it does not complain. I > can't see any obvious reason that Windows likes one profile and not the other. > >Any idea what is going on? This is a know problem. Unfortunately, seems not a mistake of lcms but of Windows ICM. If you really needs the profile to be "installed", set the verbosity of profiler to minimum. But please note that "install" does nothing on Windows. The profile is never used by the OS. Is the application software who is responsible to do all operation with profile. And many applications (Adobe PhotoShop, for examples) completely surpasses windows ICM. Chris Cox, from Adobe have said many times ICM is too buggy to be useful. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Cox%2BICM%2Bbu ggy Regards, Marti. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcm...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Lcms-user mailing list Lcm...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcms-user |