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From: <ben...@id...> - 2004-05-22 12:55:59
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Dear Open Source developer I am doing a research project on "Fun and Software Development" in which I kindly invite you to participate. You will find the online survey under http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/. The questionnaire consists of 53 questions and you will need about 15 minutes to complete it. With the FASD project (Fun and Software Development) we want to define the motivational significance of fun when software developers decide to engage in Open Source projects. What is special about our research project is that a similar survey is planned with software developers in commercial firms. This procedure allows the immediate comparison between the involved individuals and the conditions of production of these two development models. Thus we hope to obtain substantial new insights to the phenomenon of Open Source Development. With many thanks for your participation, Benno Luthiger PS: The results of the survey will be published under http://www.isu.unizh.ch/fuehrung/blprojects/FASD/. We have set up the mailing list fa...@we... for this study. Please see http://fasd.ethz.ch/qsf/mailinglist_en.html for registration to this mailing list. _______________________________________________________________________ Benno Luthiger Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich 8092 Zurich Mail: benno.luthiger(at)id.ethz.ch _______________________________________________________________________ |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-22 23:28:07
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Those who havn't finished their practice exams should do so now. Final exam tonight. As those that have done the practice tests will know, it's not too hard. Practical tests to do too. See you all tonight, Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-19 00:56:09
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I have enabled the last of the chapter exams as well as the pretest and practice exams. These should run through until monday. Monday is the main final exam. We will also have the practical skills tests on the routers. Also a class B subnet to calculate. Fun, fun, fun all the way. Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-13 04:02:24
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do them tests. Now. Also, mozey over to gonzo.org.au and register for ccna3. Key is ccna3 Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-11 22:36:42
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Grant's answered this pretty thoroughly. Static routes can be made to routers on stub networks because they're on the end. They will not be routing packets through to anywhere else. They are the end of the line. I seem to remember that static routing are more efficient than dynamic routing and there is a privacy thing as well if it matters. Geoffrey At Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:29:31 +1000, Grant Tester wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:00:37AM +0900, lance wrote: > > Was just doing the static route interactive challenge in 12.5.1 from the > > cisco online material. > > Any one know why we sett a static route between router Lab_A and Lab_D > > when they are not > > Directly connected. I thought that was the point of a static route. It > > appears that Lab_B is the forwarding > > Router but there is no mention of lab_C which is on the route to Lab_D > > after Lab_B. > > > > What am I missing here? > > Actually, I think you've got it backwards. You only need a static route > for a network that's not directly connected. > > A router already knows how to get to a directly connected network, just > put it out the interface with the IP address in that network. > > You need a static route to tell it how to get to a non-directly > connected network. > > A static route is not the whole path to the destination network, it's > just the next hop. > > So to get from A to D, you have to go through B and C. But all the > router needs to know is the next hop, that is, Lab_B. > > It's up to Lab_B to know how to get to D (through C). > > In a dumb network, B wouldn't know how to get to D without another > static route to D through C. However, this is where routing protocols > come in, to automate all this. > > > It seems funny to set a static route without specifying the whole > > path. > > Only because it's still new. :) > > -- > Grant Tester > +61 413 987 988 > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best > thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features > you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. > _______________________________________________ > Lcdp-ccna mailing list > Lcd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcdp-ccna > |
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From: Grant T. <gr...@te...> - 2003-06-11 12:32:35
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:00:37AM +0900, lance wrote: > Was just doing the static route interactive challenge in 12.5.1 from the > cisco online material. > Any one know why we sett a static route between router Lab_A and Lab_D > when they are not > Directly connected. I thought that was the point of a static route. It > appears that Lab_B is the forwarding > Router but there is no mention of lab_C which is on the route to Lab_D > after Lab_B. > > What am I missing here? Actually, I think you've got it backwards. You only need a static route for a network that's not directly connected. A router already knows how to get to a directly connected network, just put it out the interface with the IP address in that network. You need a static route to tell it how to get to a non-directly connected network. A static route is not the whole path to the destination network, it's just the next hop. So to get from A to D, you have to go through B and C. But all the router needs to know is the next hop, that is, Lab_B. It's up to Lab_B to know how to get to D (through C). In a dumb network, B wouldn't know how to get to D without another static route to D through C. However, this is where routing protocols come in, to automate all this. > It seems funny to set a static route without specifying the whole > path. Only because it's still new. :) -- Grant Tester +61 413 987 988 |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-11 02:25:07
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Get them while there hot Geoffrey |
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From: lance <la...@ja...> - 2003-06-10 02:00:38
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Was just doing the static route interactive challenge in 12.5.1 from the cisco online material. Any one know why we sett a static route between router Lab_A and Lab_D when they are not Directly connected. I thought that was the point of a static route. It appears that Lab_B is the forwarding Router but there is no mention of lab_C which is on the route to Lab_D after Lab_B. What am I missing here? It seems funny to set a static route without specifying the whole path. Lance |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-08 07:24:15
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those pesky exams are back... Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-06-06 12:14:37
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Exams are up over the weekend. Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-23 00:41:11
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yes their up there ready to go... will endevor to have them run through saturday. Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-21 04:17:57
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There are comercial simulators available. I bought Sybex Virtual Lab Gold from Amazon. I'ts ok but expensive. Second hand routers cost ~ $400. geoffrey At Tue, 20 May 2003 10:52:07 +0900, lance wrote: > > [1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>] > I have tried the simulator posted on the site but it does not allow for > certain modes. > I cant use into the configure memory or configure network > Are there any other simulators. > I had trouble with the lab in CH2 on modes. > > Lance > [2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] > |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-21 02:03:10
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exams for chapters 1, 2-3, 4 and 5-6 are up now. Geofffrey |
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From: lance <la...@ja...> - 2003-05-20 01:52:24
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I have tried the simulator posted on the site but it does not allow for certain modes. I cant use into the configure memory or configure network Are there any other simulators. I had trouble with the lab in CH2 on modes. Lance |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-15 23:36:32
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there they are again Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-14 02:04:38
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Exams for chapters 1, 2, 3, 4 now showing on a brouser near you. Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-11 21:34:22
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I think it's a good idea. The problem is getting Geoffrey to remember to do it, when all he is thinking about is getting away on the boat into the National Park. Geoffrey At Fri, 09 May 2003 09:52:23 +1000, Jai Madhani wrote: > > It would be hepfull if the test could be posted on Friday before Geoffrey > leaves for his weekend adventure and or Sunday evening upon his return. How > do the others feel? > > Jehangir > > > > > Jehangir Madhani > Building J11 > School of Aerospace, Mechanical and Mechatronic Engineering > University of Sydney > Sydney > NSW 2006 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo, June 4-6, 2003, Santa Clara > The only event dedicated to issues related to Linux enterprise solutions > www.enterpriselinuxforum.com > > _______________________________________________ > Lcdp-ccna mailing list > Lcd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lcdp-ccna > |
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From: Henry C. <he...@zi...> - 2003-05-09 00:11:45
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(Rev. 1) Minutes for Cisco CCNA Study Group 2: Week 2: May 5th, 2003 The Small Question? ============== The class had 14 this week - getting better... Information ========= This is the second week of CCNA 2 - the first nine weeks of TAFE were CCNA 1. So when accessing the online Cisco site pick "CCNA 2" instead of "CCNA 1". Now for the confusing bit (again). The online chapters numbering is different from the "First-Year Companion Guide" book chapter numbering: online-book 1-CCNA 1 review 2-(16) 3-(17) etc. Therefore in notes the online chapters will shown simply as a number - ie. 2 while book chapters will be in parenthesis - ie. (16). The TAFE computer network is now fast enough to do all the Cisco online exams (Chapters and Final) in the classroom. The days of doing exams from home are over. Well actually they are NOT over - there is not enough time in class to play with the routers AND do the online chapter exams so... Geoffrey will be putting them up again for 24 hour periods (Wednesday, Friday, Sunday?) Class Topics ========= 1) We did the CCNA 1 review test online. 2) The 'pre-test' was abandoned - it covered all of CCNA 2 - probably useful only to those who are doing this as a refresher course. 3) Geoffrey went over the procedure to connect a terminal (PC emulation) to a router and set up the basic installation. 4) Then the class had a go at doing this for real... Unfortunately there was no time to discuss more advanced router software simulators. Handouts ***** ======= 2 handouts 1) Lab 2.2 Routers - Overview/ Lab 2.2.3.1 Routers - Overview/Lab 2.2.3.2 Routers - Overview The first lab was worked on during the class. The last two require a muliple connected router configuration. 2) Lab 4.2.4 Router show commands This lab was worked on during the class. For next week =========== 1) Do the online Chapter 1 (if you didn't get a chance before). 2) Do the online combined Chapter 2-3 (16-17) test. 3) Study Chapters 4 (18) and 5 (19). Course Notes ========== The required course material (both CCNA 1 and 2) are on the Cisco web site: http://cisco.netacad.net or try http://cisco.netacad.net/public. Henry (the 'other' minutes man) Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. |
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From: Jai M. <ja...@ae...> - 2003-05-08 23:53:33
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It would be hepfull if the test could be posted on Friday before Geoffrey leaves for his weekend adventure and or Sunday evening upon his return. How do the others feel? Jehangir Jehangir Madhani Building J11 School of Aerospace, Mechanical and Mechatronic Engineering University of Sydney Sydney NSW 2006 |
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From: Henry C. <he...@zi...> - 2003-05-08 14:00:19
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Minutes for Cisco CCNA Study Group 2: Week 2: May 5th, 2003 The Small Question? ============== The class had 14 this week - getting better... Information ========= This is the second week of CCNA 2 - the first nine weeks of TAFE were CCNA 1. So when accessing the online Cisco site pick "CCNA 2" instead of "CCNA 1". Now for the confusing bit (again). The online chapters numbering is different from the "First-Year Companion Guide" book chapter numbering: online-book 1-CCNA 1 review 2-16 3-17 etc. Therefore in notes the online chapters will shown simply as a number - ie. 2 while book chapters will be in parenthesis - ie. (16). The TAFE computer network is now fast enough to do all the Cisco online exams (Chapters and Final) in the classroom. The days of doing exams from home are over. Well actually they are NOT over - there is not enough time in class to play with the routers AND do the online chapter exams so... Geoffrey will be putting them up again for 24 hour periods (Wednesday, Friday, Sunday?) Class Topics ========= 1) We did the CCNA 1 review test online. 2) The 'pre-test' was abandoned - it covered all of CCNA 2 - probably useful only to those who are doing this as a refresher course. 3) Geoffrey went over the procedure to connect a terminal (PC emulation) to a router and set up the basic installation. 4) Then the class had a go at doing this for real... Unfortunately there was no time to discuss more advanced router software simulators. Handouts ======= 2 handouts For next week =========== 1) Do the online Chapter 1 (if you didn't get a chance before). 2) Do the online combined Chapter 2-3 (16-17) test. 3) Study Chapters 4 (18) and 5 (19). Course Notes ========== The required course material (both CCNA 1 and 2) are on the Cisco web site: http://cisco.netacad.net or try http://cisco.netacad.net/public. Henry (the 'other' minutes man) Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-05-08 00:17:10
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Those who have not done these might like to do them now Geoffrey |
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From: Geoffrey R. <geo...@zi...> - 2003-04-30 03:09:46
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Hi all, Could the people who haven't yet completed the Survey form do so in the next few days. It is enabled now. This includes Brad, Stephen, Grant Craig, Rod, Lance, Mark, David, Mark and David. Those who didn't do the final exam plese come back next monday and do it. It's not hard to get through this stuff. But you do have to come along. Geoffrey |
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From: Henry C. <he...@zi...> - 2003-04-28 13:34:28
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Minutes for Cisco CCNA Study Group 2: Week 1: April 28th, 2003 The Big Question? ============== SO WHERE WAS EVERYBODY TONIGHT??? Information ========= This is the first week of CCNA 2 - the previous nine weeks of TAFE were CCNA 1. So when accessing the online Cisco site pick "CCNA 2" instead of "CCNA 1". Now for the confusing bit. The online chapters numbering is different from the "First-Year Companion Guide" book chapter numbering: online-book 1-CCNA 1 review 2-16 3-17 etc. Therefore in notes the online chapters will shown simply as a number - ie. 2 while book chapters will be in parenthesis - ie. (16). The TAFE computer network is now fast enough to do all the Cisco online exams (Chapters and Final) in the classroom. The days of doing exams from home are over. Class Topics ========= 1) Geoffrey went over the schedule for the coming nine weeks. 2) The class split into three groups: a) finishing off CCNA 1 business (ie. tests, survey). b) looking at the new chapters online at the Cisco site. c) attempting to remember how to talk to a Cisco router using the PC as a terminal. 3) Geoffrey covered a bit of the Command Language Interface (CLI) using a Cisco 1603 router and mentioned the e-Sim (a simple router simulator flash program from the Cisco site). Next week more advanced software simulators will be discussed. Handouts ======= 1) Schedule for the next 9 weeks - General Information - Grading - Week by Week - Benchmark Questions and Skills - Engineering Journal - Lesson Plans. 2) Five router network drawing - by the end of CCNA 2 we have been assured we will be able to draw and set up the involved routers in our sleep! For next week =========== 1 No homework to hand in. 2) Go over the Cisco online Chapter 1 (a revision of CCNA 1). We will take an online exam in this first thing next week. 3) This will be followed a online 'pretest'. Geoffrey was extremely vague about its scope - does it cover CCNA 1 or CCNA 2? 3) Go over Chapter 2 and 3 online (Chapters 16 and 17 in the book). Towards the end of the class period a combined online exam will be given. Geoffrey is determined that the class will keep up if not get ahead of the Cisco schedule. Course Notes ========== The required course material (both CCNA 1 and 2) are on the Cisco web site: http://cisco.netacad.net or try http://cisco.netacad.net/public. Henry (the 'other' minutes man) Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. |
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From: Henry C. <he...@zi...> - 2003-04-10 05:22:53
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Mark Last night you mentioned that the special 3 layer 26 pin connector required by the HP712 was a "HL-12" or "HL12"? I used a question mark (no pun intended) because I am not sure if I remembered the code correctly. Also you said that Farnell has two of them in their catalog. I had a look and they have a LOT of connectors... If you could narrow down the hunting range it would be a great help. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Henry Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. |
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From: Henry C. <he...@zi...> - 2003-04-09 23:12:17
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http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/fast_protocol_030409.html Yet another new Internet protocol - FAST and using multiple simultaneous paths 8.6 gigabits per second! And the article also shows that people already have a valid use for such bandwidth! I would love to see what they use as a firewall for that link. Henry Interested in the applications of technology - past, present and future - especially unusual. |
