Re: [K3d-development] failure of gtk2.4 and and so of k3d

[Timothy M. S. <ts...@k-...>]

Riccardo Mottola wrote:

> the 'new' k3d is based on gtk2. Personally I regret this chice of this
> bloated and horrible toolkit. However for the sake of k3d I endeavoured
> in the compilation of it on my solaris 2.6 box.
> After an immense download of stuff and dependencies and about one week
> of grief and a lot of lost hours and hair pulling I defeated and rm-rf
> gtk* was applied.
> 
> Apparently 2.2 still compiles, but 2.4 has horrid problems with fonts, I
> don't undesrtand precisely why. I fear it is the xft and fontconfig
> stuff, but I am not 100%. Gtk 2.4.[7..9] fails at configure time even,
> giving useless errors of gnome-config. Also while I found binary
> packages for the 2.2 version, I see that sun freeware has not yet
> updated to 2.4, there might be a reason: they can't.
> 
> I failed a bug report and it was closed immediately for not being a bug
> and that I should ask in the mailing list for those 'dumb' questions.
> Now I don't want to subscribe to yet another mailing list just to get
> some help in building this stuff. Also I am not a beginner and I know
> enough about configure and link options to fight my way usually.
> 
> So for now, I will not test K3D on my solaris/sparc any further. A real
> pity I think. Not your fault, if not in the choise of this bloated and
> unportable toolkit. I don't know yet if I will continue to follow this
> project mailing list or unsubscribe. I regret it, I think the project is
> interesting and getting forwards at a good pace.

Yes, I see your bug report, located at

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150984

The response that you got was perfectly polite and reasonable, and the 
word "dumb" doesn't appear anywhere, so I'm not sure where you got that 
impression.  There are searchable archives of the gtk mailing list at

http://www.gtk.org/mailinglists.html

where you might consider looking to see if others have had the same 
problem you're having.  On the other hand, if nobody else has had your 
issue, and you're unwilling to even subscribe to a mailing list to 
discuss it, how do you expect it to get fixed?

Given that Sun has dropped CDE in favor of Gnome, is an active member of 
the Gnome Foundation, and has made significant contributions to Gnome, 
including the Human Interface Guidelines that we are using as an 
integral part of the K-3D UI design, it really seems unlikely to me that 
Gtk 2.4 can't be made to work given sufficient effort.

If you ever feel the need to indulge in name-calling on this list again, 
don't ... I'd prefer you just unsubscribe and go on your way.

Tim