RE: [Jython-users] Eclipse and Jython/Python

[Updike, C. <Cla...@jh...>]

An Eclipse plug-in would be a big plus for jython.  I think it would also
help
breed confidence in potential users.  The main issue I have with mixing a 
java/jython code base is the lack of a refactoring IDE for jython (although
a nice 
debugger would clearly be in second place).  Maybe I'm spoiled by having a 
refactoring-capable IDE for java (Eclipse), but it sure would be nice to
have 
changes to java code ripple through to the jython code (and vice versa).  I 
expressed much the same sentiment in  
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1947088&forum_id=5586
.  

So I guess my list of benefits would be, in descending priority:

1. Integrated Jython/Java refactoring
2. An integrated debugger
3. Gain many of the generic Eclipse features (project/file management,
   package explorer, local history/compare/replace, etc.)
4. A monolithic environment for java/jython development
5. Could use the Eclipse update manager for plug-in and core jython updates

At one point I saw some interest in the Eclipse Forums for a jython plug-in,
and I even tried to follow up with the people involved but never heard back
from anyone.

Hope this helps,
Clark

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Altis [mailto:al...@se...]
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:14 PM
To: jyt...@li...
Subject: [Jython-users] Eclipse and Jython/Python


I would like to hear from anyone ASAP that is using Eclipse or would like to
use Eclipse with Python/Jython.

  http://www.eclipse.org/

I think it would be great to get full syntactic support for Jython/Python
and have Jython embedded into Eclipse. Since Jim Hugunin is listed as one of
the Eclipse sub-project leads I figure at least some people involved with
Eclipse might be sympathetic to this idea, but I have not been able to reach
Jim yet, so I don't know what he thinks.

  http://www.eclipse.org/technology/team-leaders.html

I have arranged a brief phone call with Paul Buck, Director of Eclipse
Development at IBM on Friday, May 2nd to discuss the idea.

  http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2003/view/e_spkr/1529

I would appreciate feedback before Thursday, May 1st if you would like to
see this happen. In particular, I need a specific list of benefits to Java
and Jython/Python programmers if they had full Jython/Python syntax support
and the ability to use Jython from with Eclipse. I have some general benefit
points, but I don't program in Java day-to-day so people on this list should
be able to give me better specifics.

Thanks,

ka
---
Kevin Altis
al...@se...
http://altis.pycs.net/
http://www.pythoncard.org/



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