From: Mohammed S. <moh...@gm...> - 2005-02-24 04:30:45
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Hi Everyone, I am interested in impoving the jedit UI. My first thoughts are to have it in terms of the new NetBeans(4) UI, which is pretty good. I would like to hear everyone's views on this before proceeding. In terms of usability, I think we are already there as our focus is more in terms of being a text editor and not an IDE. But there is always going to be scope for improvements. So, we could discuss in those terms as well. thanks. -- saleem |
From: Patrick W. <jed...@pd...> - 2005-02-24 07:42:29
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> Hi Everyone, > > I am interested in impoving the jedit UI. My first thoughts are to > have it in terms of the new NetBeans(4) UI, which is pretty good. I > would like to hear everyone's views on this before proceeding. > > In terms of usability, I think we are already there as our focus is > more in terms of being a text editor and not an IDE. But there is > always going to be scope for improvements. So, we could discuss in > those terms as well. Saleem For my part, as a regular jEdit user, there aren't too many UI features I miss or want changed. Some panels, like Plugin Options, could be more consistent, but currently this is up to each plugin developer. Could have contextual help, and maybe dragable/dockable panes would be nice (but onl= y in a few cases). As far as I know, as of jEdit 4.2, the component to display the buffer is coupled with the larger frame and some other components; thus, you can't just pull it out to have a syntax-highlighting, encoding-sensitive, macro-enabled editor pane to drop into your own apps. Slava has listed a task "separate text area from view" for 4.3, but I haven't heard details on what the limitations would be. My (very) personal suggestion would be: don't imagine you can rewrite the UI--it would be a huge amount of work, if nothing else. If there are some plugins you like but would prefer a different or improved UI, maybe offer to contribute patches to the owner. Or maybe offer some patches for minor UI changes in jEdit itself. You could always fork and rewrite the UI in NB, but why do that? It works pretty darn well as it is, and it's GPL to boot. So--start small! Code small improvements! (Or, you could write the shell of a text editor in NB, and use JEditorPan= e for now, and if/when it's every pluggable, pull the jEdit pane into your new super-editor.) One thing I would love to see: an automated layout, pretty-good looking plugin properties manager with contextual help for each property in tooltips, pulled by parsing option documentation from the help files usin= g xpath! (and, a flying cow, but that's another story). Your enthusiasm is welcome, however (by me at least). From the guy who talks a lot but never actually codes anything-- Patrick |
From: Paul R. <rus...@gm...> - 2005-02-24 14:26:59
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HI Mohammed, I always thought it would be cool if there was a skin for the jEdit Look and Feel plugin that looked similar to the Mozilla Firefox Noia 2.0 (Extreme) theme by Kongkeat Kuatrakull. http://www.deviantart.com/view/4266778/ I'm particularly fond of the blue scroll bars with the rounded ends. Paul On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:00:31 +0530, Mohammed Saleem <moh...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am interested in impoving the jedit UI. My first thoughts are to > have it in terms of the new NetBeans(4) UI, which is pretty good. I > would like to hear everyone's views on this before proceeding. > > In terms of usability, I think we are already there as our focus is > more in terms of being a text editor and not an IDE. But there is > always going to be scope for improvements. So, we could discuss in > those terms as well. > > thanks. > -- > saleem > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Users' List > jEd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-users > |
From: Patrick W. <jed...@pd...> - 2005-02-24 14:38:25
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> HI Mohammed, > > I always thought it would be cool if there was a skin for the jEdit > Look and Feel plugin that looked similar to the Mozilla Firefox Noia > 2.0 (Extreme) theme by Kongkeat Kuatrakull. > http://www.deviantart.com/view/4266778/ I'm particularly fond of the > blue scroll bars with the rounded ends. I haven't tried using it, but Java 1.5 lets you define a look and feel as a skin, where the L&F is defined in an external file (e.g. XML). It's called Synth. I don't know who is using it yet, but might be interesting to see if one could "migrate" a standard look and feel and gradually pull in things like scrollbar buttons and etc. Patrick |