From: Jeff A. <jef...@ya...> - 2001-11-26 21:38:09
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Has anyone checked out Eclipse? I've been using JEdit for about a year and the only real complaints I have are related to Swing in general (I spent over two years working with Swing apps and am intimately familiar with many little gotchas that still make my eye twitch...). Eclipse uses what they call SWT instead of Swing. In a nutshell it is a combo of Java and C code called via JNI. From a theoretical perspective I prefer the idea of Swing and lightweight components, but from a practical perspective I like my widgets to be fast and reliable... I've yet to see a Swing app that didn't occassionally blink, flash or otherwise stutter. JEdit seems to do so much less than others (like the big, bloated IDE's based on Swing). I've only examined Eclipse briefly, and overall I vastly prefer JEdit, but I definitely think SWT bears a looksee. The SWT widgets seem to respond more quickly than their swing counterparts. For instance when JEdit (JEdit 3.2.2/JRE1.3/Win2K) has been inactive for a while and I switch back to it, it can take as much as 2-3 seconds to initially repaint the screen (under normal usage, it is usually less than a second, but with a perceptible flash). It seems the longer it has been inactive and the more buffers that are open, the longer it takes to repaint. So far I haven't been able to surprise Eclipse... every time I alt-tab over to it, it instantly repaints. Just curious if anyone (Slava particularly) had looked at SWT and Eclipse. The perfect tool for me would be JEdit with the responsiveness of SWT... Food for thought. jeffa Jeff Ammons jef...@ya... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 |
From: Warrick F. <war...@gm...> - 2008-09-10 21:34:24
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Hi All, I'm writing a plugin and would like to be able to add breakpoints etc. for debugging purposes. The only way I can see to do this is to do remote debugging and connect to an already running instance of JEdit. 1. Is my assumption correct? 2. Has anyone compiled JEdit in Eclipse and can give me a hand with some basic instructions. Thanks Warrick |
From: Shlomy R. <sre...@gm...> - 2008-09-10 22:28:06
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1. No. 2. Yes. What is the problem with simply running jEdit from eclipse? jEdit is the main class. Shlomy On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Warrick Fitzgerald <war...@gm...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm writing a plugin and would like to be able to add breakpoints etc. for > debugging purposes. > > The only way I can see to do this is to do remote debugging and connect to > an already running instance of JEdit. > > 1. Is my assumption correct? > 2. Has anyone compiled JEdit in Eclipse and can give me a hand with some > basic instructions. > > Thanks > Warrick > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Developers' List > jEd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel > > |
From: Warrick F. <war...@gm...> - 2008-09-11 00:03:48
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The problem is me :) ... I just don't know how. I'm pretty new to Java dev. I quite honestly can't make head of tail of how I run it from Eclipse. Most smaller projects, I simply go File > Import > General > Existing Project Into workspace ... point it at the folder and all works as expected. Would you mind giving me an idiots explanation of how to get the project compiling in Eclipse please? I know this probably seems simple to you, but I'm lost. Thanks Warrick On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Shlomy Reinstein <sre...@gm...>wrote: > 1. No. > 2. Yes. What is the problem with simply running jEdit from eclipse? > jEdit is the main class. > Shlomy > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Warrick Fitzgerald > <war...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I'm writing a plugin and would like to be able to add breakpoints etc. > for > > debugging purposes. > > > > The only way I can see to do this is to do remote debugging and connect > to > > an already running instance of JEdit. > > > > 1. Is my assumption correct? > > 2. Has anyone compiled JEdit in Eclipse and can give me a hand with some > > basic instructions. > > > > Thanks > > Warrick > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > > prizes > > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------- > > jEdit Developers' List > > jEd...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel > > > > > |
From: Eric B. <el...@gm...> - 2008-09-11 00:43:16
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Warrick, This is usually what I do when I want to create a plugin and debug jEdit. Add the jedit.jar to your project's classpath. Create a debug configuration with "Main class:" set to "org.gjt.sp.jedit.jEdit" There is a bit of a trick though because I believe you still need to have your plugin jar in the plugin installation directory (~/.jedit/jars). If you have the debug configuration's project set to your plugin's project, you should now be able to debug your plugin. I apologize, I'm not in a location to give specific instructions, however if you need them, reply, and I'll post them here as soon as I can. Cheers, and I hope that helps some. Eric On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Warrick Fitzgerald < war...@gm...> wrote: > The problem is me :) ... I just don't know how. I'm pretty new to Java dev. > > I quite honestly can't make head of tail of how I run it from Eclipse. > > Most smaller projects, I simply go File > Import > General > Existing > Project Into workspace ... point it at the folder and all works as expected. > > > Would you mind giving me an idiots explanation of how to get the project > compiling in Eclipse please? I know this probably seems simple to you, but > I'm lost. > > Thanks > Warrick > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Shlomy Reinstein <sre...@gm...>wrote: > >> 1. No. >> 2. Yes. What is the problem with simply running jEdit from eclipse? >> jEdit is the main class. >> Shlomy >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Warrick Fitzgerald >> <war...@gm...> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I'm writing a plugin and would like to be able to add breakpoints etc. >> for >> > debugging purposes. >> > >> > The only way I can see to do this is to do remote debugging and connect >> to >> > an already running instance of JEdit. >> > >> > 1. Is my assumption correct? >> > 2. Has anyone compiled JEdit in Eclipse and can give me a hand with some >> > basic instructions. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Warrick >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> > prizes >> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> > -- >> > ----------------------------------------------- >> > jEdit Developers' List >> > jEd...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Developers' List > jEd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel > > -- Learn from the past. Live in the present. Plan for the future. 11101000 http://www.townsfolkdesigns.com/blogs/elberry |
From: Alan E. <ala...@gm...> - 2008-09-11 02:26:03
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In general, I always do "new project from existing source". I do not use the ant build file at all. And I start by creating a jEdit project, and then I create another project for each plugin. Then I snap them together under the "projects" tab of the build path (project properties). Also, From README.SRC.txt: * Tips for Eclipse users: Some of the source directories are only needed for building packages on certain platforms. If you add jEdit source to an IDE like Eclipse that tries to build everything, you'll get some errors from these directories unless you have the right libraries. However, if you tell Eclipse to exclude these directories, you can still build jEdit from source. Follow these steps: - Project properties - Java build path - Source - Excluded dirs - Edit - Add multiple - Add these subdirs: jars, net, de, build On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Eric Berry <el...@gm...> wrote: > Warrick, > This is usually what I do when I want to create a plugin and debug jEdit. > > Add the jedit.jar to your project's classpath. > > Create a debug configuration with "Main class:" set to > "org.gjt.sp.jedit.jEdit" > > There is a bit of a trick though because I believe you still need to have > your plugin jar in the plugin installation directory (~/.jedit/jars). If you > have the debug configuration's project set to your plugin's project, you > should now be able to debug your plugin. > > I apologize, I'm not in a location to give specific instructions, however if > you need them, reply, and I'll post them here as soon as I can. > > Cheers, and I hope that helps some. > Eric > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Warrick Fitzgerald > <war...@gm...> wrote: >> >> The problem is me :) ... I just don't know how. I'm pretty new to Java >> dev. >> >> I quite honestly can't make head of tail of how I run it from Eclipse. >> >> Most smaller projects, I simply go File > Import > General > Existing >> Project Into workspace ... point it at the folder and all works as expected. >> >> Would you mind giving me an idiots explanation of how to get the project >> compiling in Eclipse please? I know this probably seems simple to you, but >> I'm lost. >> >> Thanks >> Warrick >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Shlomy Reinstein <sre...@gm...> >> wrote: >>> >>> 1. No. >>> 2. Yes. What is the problem with simply running jEdit from eclipse? >>> jEdit is the main class. >>> Shlomy >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Warrick Fitzgerald >>> <war...@gm...> wrote: >>> > Hi All, >>> > >>> > I'm writing a plugin and would like to be able to add breakpoints etc. >>> > for >>> > debugging purposes. >>> > >>> > The only way I can see to do this is to do remote debugging and connect >>> > to >>> > an already running instance of JEdit. >>> > >>> > 1. Is my assumption correct? >>> > 2. Has anyone compiled JEdit in Eclipse and can give me a hand with >>> > some >>> > basic instructions. >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > Warrick >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> > challenge >>> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> > prizes >>> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> > world >>> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> > -- >>> > ----------------------------------------------- >>> > jEdit Developers' List >>> > jEd...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel >>> > >>> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------- >> jEdit Developers' List >> jEd...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel >> > > > > -- > Learn from the past. Live in the present. Plan for the future. > 11101000 > http://www.townsfolkdesigns.com/blogs/elberry > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Developers' List > jEd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel > > |
From: doug b <umm...@ya...> - 2001-11-26 23:23:54
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you know, i had the same observations. namely, that i like jEdit's features better, but Eclipse is faster. i just never thought about suggesting the use of SWT in jEdit. if feasible, that would be a cool hybrid. --- Jeff Ammons <jef...@ya...> wrote: > Has anyone checked out Eclipse? > > I've been using JEdit for about a year and the only > real complaints I have are related to Swing in > general > (I spent over two years working with Swing apps and > am > intimately familiar with many little gotchas that > still make my eye twitch...). > > Eclipse uses what they call SWT instead of Swing. In > a > nutshell it is a combo of Java and C code called via > JNI. From a theoretical perspective I prefer the > idea > of Swing and lightweight components, but from a > practical perspective I like my widgets to be fast > and > reliable... I've yet to see a Swing app that didn't > occassionally blink, flash or otherwise stutter. > JEdit > seems to do so much less than others (like the big, > bloated IDE's based on Swing). > > I've only examined Eclipse briefly, and overall I > vastly prefer JEdit, but I definitely think SWT > bears > a looksee. The SWT widgets seem to respond more > quickly than their swing counterparts. For instance > when JEdit (JEdit 3.2.2/JRE1.3/Win2K) has been > inactive for a while and I switch back to it, it can > take as much as 2-3 seconds to initially repaint the > screen (under normal usage, it is usually less than > a > second, but with a perceptible flash). It seems the > longer it has been inactive and the more buffers > that > are open, the longer it takes to repaint. So far I > haven't been able to surprise Eclipse... every time > I > alt-tab over to it, it instantly repaints. > > Just curious if anyone (Slava particularly) had > looked > at SWT and Eclipse. The perfect tool for me would be > JEdit with the responsiveness of SWT... Food for > thought. > > jeffa > Jeff Ammons > jef...@ya... > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, > just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > jEdit Developers' List > jEd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jedit-devel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 |