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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-02-02 19:31:57
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Hi, I've been doing a little profiling of my bugwatcher application. 80% of the time is being spent in CustomEvents.setPending. I've tried just writing to the liststore from a different thread - this seems to be working fine except the treeview doesn't update the display until e.g. you scroll it. Does anyone here know about multithreaded applications in gtk? I have a horrible feeling that we're doing something terribly wrong. -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-02-01 20:33:24
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While waiting for my uni project to compile each time this evening, I've been going through the tree API to see what needs doing. I've updated the TODO (all based on gtk 2.3.1 - latest I have). There's a lot more to do than I expected and a few things you might want to comment on: - I'm not bothering supporting custom treemodels or cellrenderers. They're too advanced for the current state of java-gnome There are many things which could cause performance problems. These are setting interfaces so that a method will be called for a number of items in the treeview. e.g. selectionfunc - determine if a row may be selected GtkTreeViewColumnDropFunc gtk_tree_view_column_set_cell_data_func TreeModelFilter functions The last two are the biggies - I'm not sure if these will ever be feasible in java. I think I should add the API with a comment saying this is not public API - just for testing, then we can remove it later if needed. gtk_tree_view_map_expanded_rows - is this useful in any way? treeview drag methods - I'm not sure what they do. Have to go through them all again. treeview signals - are these needed? TreeModel sort - I won't bother with this. Everyone will use one of the existing stores with java-gnome. CellLayout - what is this? I don't think we need it... Does anyone know what GtkSelectionData is? it's a parameter in GtkTreeDragDestIface but I can't find docs for it. -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...> - 2004-02-01 17:18:37
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On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 12:08, Mark Howard wrote: > Jeff- > I think you might be worrying a little too much. Once we're in a > stable gnome release and have developmental releases in > garnome/jh_build/cvsgnome, etc, we are bound to find people who are not > only interested in java-gnome but who also know more about gtk/gnome > than we do. > At the moment we are rushing very much - but you have to remember that > we did join very late in the 2.6 development. If we get started on 2.7 > when upstream do, we should be in a far better position. You are right. Yet at the same time I would like to see one person that is responsible for maintaining the stable releases. I already see it is going to be difficult to maintain multiple versions each of which require different configurations and different gnome versions. Also, there are so many additional libraries that I would like to see added to the project that I do fear we will be stretched beyond our capabilities. > For the message, I'd say send it - it might bring interest. Perhaps > -announce would be better than -developer (or possibly both). It would > be useful to say that developers must have/be prepared to get a cutting > edge gnome 2.5 installation though. sourceforge also has a job posting > feature - it would be a good idea to add something there too. I will update the message with your suggestion. Also, thanks for reminding me about the sourceforge job posting feature. I will post there as well. -Jeff |
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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-02-01 17:08:47
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Jeff- I think you might be worrying a little too much. Once we're in a stable gnome release and have developmental releases in garnome/jh_build/cvsgnome, etc, we are bound to find people who are not only interested in java-gnome but who also know more about gtk/gnome than we do. At the moment we are rushing very much - but you have to remember that we did join very late in the 2.6 development. If we get started on 2.7 when upstream do, we should be in a far better position. For the message, I'd say send it - it might bring interest. Perhaps -announce would be better than -developer (or possibly both). It would be useful to say that developers must have/be prepared to get a cutting edge gnome 2.5 installation though. sourceforge also has a job posting feature - it would be a good idea to add something there too. -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...> - 2004-02-01 16:41:23
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There is so much I would like to see in the bindings but it seems that we will end up spending all of our time trying to keep with the gtk and gnome developers. I would like to post the following message to the developers list asking for help. Tell me what you think of this request. Please feel free to suggest any changes. Subject: What you can do to help java-gnome succeed This is a very exciting time for the java-gnome project. Our inclusion in the GNOME Bindings Release will greatly increase the distribution of java-gnome and we hope will lead to more developers using the bindings. Joining the GBR also gave this project a new focus and real deadlines to meet which has resulted in rapid progress due to an extraordinary effort by the project developers. The future looks bright for this project. Although all of the developers are putting in as much time as they can there is still much that is being neglected. This project should be focused on three areas of development; (1) staying current with the gnome libraries (required by the GBR), (2) supporting official release by providing bug fix releases on a schedule, and (3) adding bindings for new libraries like libgtkhml, gnomevfs, etc. At this time we only have the man power to perform the first area effectively. Therefore, we need your help. If you are interested in joining this team you will find the developers eager to help you get started. There is a place on this project for all skill levels. Please think about this long and hard before you join. Ask yourself if you are willing to commit the hours it takes to be a part of this project. If the answer is yes, you will be successful on this project and we need your help. -Jeff |
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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-01-31 19:09:48
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On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:04:46PM -0500, Jeffrey Morgan wrote: > According to the latest update from sourceforge our cvs will be > down until at least sometime this weekend. It has already been > down for a day. We have to decide if we still want to move our > cvs over to the gnome site. What are your thoughts? It tool nearly a week for sourceforge to deliver that email. If we want to keep on track with gnome bindings release, sourceforge have given us no choice other than to move. -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...> - 2004-01-31 16:23:50
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I just asked on #garnome irc about the next release of garnome and nobody responded. I also just asked about the 2.5.4 gnome release on #gnome irc and didn't get a reply. I also just posted to the language-bindings list. Hopefully somebody will let us know what is going on. -Jeff On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 10:22, Mark Howard wrote: > I've been looking at gnome cvs - garnome 29.1 is completely different, > so I'm not sure where it's been developed. Jeff Waugh has been posting > to his blog (and so planetGnome), nothing in it recently about garnome > though. perhaps it's time to try cvsgnome or one of the other > alternatives. > > > I think I will ask on the > > language-bindings release. > That would be great, thanks |
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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-01-31 15:22:47
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I've been looking at gnome cvs - garnome 29.1 is completely different, so I'm not sure where it's been developed. Jeff Waugh has been posting to his blog (and so planetGnome), nothing in it recently about garnome though. perhaps it's time to try cvsgnome or one of the other alternatives. > I think I will ask on the > language-bindings release. That would be great, thanks -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-31 13:43:44
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Il sab, 2004-01-31 alle 13:22, Mark Howard ha scritto: > Hi, > I seem to remember a message asking for help getting java-gnome into > garnome. I can't find it though - am I just imagining it? It would be > great if we could manage to get java-gnome into garnome. Ehr...I have written that message but I was only thinking that if we move to gnome we will eventually be packaged in garnome and, yes it would be great! -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-01-31 12:23:00
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Hi, I seem to remember a message asking for help getting java-gnome into garnome. I can't find it though - am I just imagining it? It would be great if we could manage to get java-gnome into garnome. -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...> - 2004-01-28 19:42:00
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According to the latest update from sourceforge our cvs will be down until at least sometime this weekend. It has already been down for a day. We have to decide if we still want to move our cvs over to the gnome site. What are your thoughts? -Jeff |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-28 14:19:39
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Il lun, 2004-01-05 alle 16:53, Luca De Rugeriis ha scritto: > Anyhow we can use post-freeze time to fix bugs, write docs... too. And even to write the java-gnome-demo !! -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-27 12:55:29
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Il mar, 2004-01-27 alle 04:33, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto: > > BTW do you think we should go into freshmeat too? > > We already have an entry on freshmeat. Great! That's because their search engine is sucky: I couldn't find anything related to java-gnome :( |
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From: Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...> - 2004-01-27 03:33:10
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> BTW do you think we should go into freshmeat too? We already have an entry on freshmeat. http://freshmeat.net/projects/java-gnome/?topic_id=58%2C45 -Jeff |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-26 18:23:34
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Il lun, 2004-01-26 alle 18:08, Luca De Rugeriis ha scritto: > Il lun, 2004-01-26 alle 13:22, Mark Howard ha scritto: > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:02:27PM -0500, Jeffrey Morgan wrote: > > > It seems like sourceforge is not even reliable for email. > > > Email I sent out yesterday and this morning have not > > > arrived. We really need to decide if we are going to > > > stay here or move to gnome. I vote to move as much as > > > we can off of sourceforge due to the continued problems > > > with cvs and now email. > > > > Agreed completely. I'm sure gnome will be happy to accept us now that > > we're in the bindings release. > Totally agreed! In _normal_ situations I've seen messages being sent > even a couple of hours in late :( > > However I think we should keep the Sf project entry, and maybe even the > website cause we'll take advantage of the popularity of the repo. > > Cvs and m-lists (as well as the bug tracking system) should be > completely moved to gnome ASAP. This is much like the gtkmm folks do: look at their project entry on freshmeat. BTW do you think we should go into freshmeat too? -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-26 17:08:10
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Il lun, 2004-01-26 alle 13:30, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto: > I will start this process today. Think about when we eventually take into in garnome. It will be great!! -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-26 17:06:28
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Il lun, 2004-01-26 alle 13:22, Mark Howard ha scritto: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:02:27PM -0500, Jeffrey Morgan wrote: > > It seems like sourceforge is not even reliable for email. > > Email I sent out yesterday and this morning have not > > arrived. We really need to decide if we are going to > > stay here or move to gnome. I vote to move as much as > > we can off of sourceforge due to the continued problems > > with cvs and now email. > > Agreed completely. I'm sure gnome will be happy to accept us now that > we're in the bindings release. Totally agreed! In _normal_ situations I've seen messages being sent even a couple of hours in late :( However I think we should keep the Sf project entry, and maybe even the website cause we'll take advantage of the popularity of the repo. Cvs and m-lists (as well as the bug tracking system) should be completely moved to gnome ASAP. It's great to be in the official boinding release...I'm feeling like at home ;) -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...> - 2004-01-26 12:30:58
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I will start this process today. -Jeff > On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:02:27PM -0500, Jeffrey Morgan wrote: > > It seems like sourceforge is not even reliable for email. > > Email I sent out yesterday and this morning have not > > arrived. We really need to decide if we are going to > > stay here or move to gnome. I vote to move as much as > > we can off of sourceforge due to the continued problems > > with cvs and now email. > > Agreed completely. I'm sure gnome will be happy to accept us now that > we're in the bindings release. > > -- > .''`. Mark Howard > : :' : > `. `' http://www.tildemh.com > `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > java-gnome-hackers mailing list > jav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/java-gnome-hackers > |
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From: Mark H. <mh...@ca...> - 2004-01-26 12:23:12
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On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:02:27PM -0500, Jeffrey Morgan wrote: > It seems like sourceforge is not even reliable for email. > Email I sent out yesterday and this morning have not > arrived. We really need to decide if we are going to > stay here or move to gnome. I vote to move as much as > we can off of sourceforge due to the continued problems > with cvs and now email. Agreed completely. I'm sure gnome will be happy to accept us now that we're in the bindings release. -- .''`. Mark Howard : :' : `. `' http://www.tildemh.com `- mh...@de... | mh...@ti... | mh...@ca... |
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From: Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...> - 2004-01-26 04:39:11
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It seems like sourceforge is not even reliable for email. Email I sent out yesterday and this morning have not arrived. We really need to decide if we are going to stay here or move to gnome. I vote to move as much as we can off of sourceforge due to the continued problems with cvs and now email. -Jeff |
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From: Jeffrey M. <ku...@zo...> - 2004-01-25 14:14:11
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It looks like cvs is still down. I have all of the File FileChooser code completed as well as an example of the FileChooser and EntryCopmpletion widgets. I will check them in as soon as cvs is functional. I am going to start work updating the Menu classes and fixing a couple of problems with ConfClient. -Jeff |
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From: Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...> - 2004-01-23 11:43:14
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> Il gio, 2004-01-22 alle 14:53, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto: > > Luca, are you interested in writing any of the JNI code for the > > FileChooser classes? If not, I will go ahead and complete them > > over the next few days. > I'm really sorry for that! I was thinking it wasn't so > urgent. As I said > I haven't j-g compiled now, but anyway I was trying to write that JNI > code until I discovered that javah need the .class file, which I can't > produce at the moment. Again I'm sorry that you was relying on me to > commit the code and I'm afraid you have to do without me this time :( That's OK. You are just going to miss out on some of the fun. > Now some good news: today I've ordered my new workstation and a > broadband connection !! ;) So, in few days, I'll come back at full > throttle... > eheh, give the geeks more power ;) |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-23 01:58:13
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Il ven, 2004-01-23 alle 02:44, Luca De Rugeriis ha scritto: > Il gio, 2004-01-22 alle 14:53, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto: > > Luca, are you interested in writing any of the JNI code for the > > FileChooser classes? If not, I will go ahead and complete them > > over the next few days. Jeff, I want to apologize for that, and it would be great if you could complete the code for the FileChooser ;) You can take it as I was without pc. Ok I can send mails etc... I also have jdk, and I could even compile j-g-0.8.2 (in a couple of hours). But for the head version I need gnome too, and this is definitely overwhelming. Everything I had download and compiled in the past is on my girlfriend's pc, and bringing stuff from there would be impractical. This is just to explain my situation clearly, not that I want you to know the details of my life ;) As I said in the other mail, the situation is going to get better, really. -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Luca De R. <pie...@li...> - 2004-01-23 01:42:39
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Il gio, 2004-01-22 alle 14:53, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto: > Luca, are you interested in writing any of the JNI code for the > FileChooser classes? If not, I will go ahead and complete them > over the next few days. I'm really sorry for that! I was thinking it wasn't so urgent. As I said I haven't j-g compiled now, but anyway I was trying to write that JNI code until I discovered that javah need the .class file, which I can't produce at the moment. Again I'm sorry that you was relying on me to commit the code and I'm afraid you have to do without me this time :( Now some good news: today I've ordered my new workstation and a broadband connection !! ;) So, in few days, I'll come back at full throttle... eheh, give the geeks more power ;) -- Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...> |
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From: Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...> - 2004-01-22 13:53:13
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Luca, are you interested in writing any of the JNI code for the FileChooser classes? If not, I will go ahead and complete them over the next few days. -Jeff > Please let me know when you need help. I am more than > happy to spend all of the time necessary to help you > learn the JNI code. > > -Jeff > > On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 21:19, Luca De Rugeriis wrote: > > Thanks Jeff! > > Your explanation was great and really of use ;) > > I'm sorry I couldn't reply earlier, but real life has taken me away. > > Generating the headers then converting from decls to impls > sounds smart! > > I'm going to try the thing, you made the concept clear, it > just a matter > > of taking care about C syntax and rules, something I'm not > used to ;) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 > Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration > See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. > http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn > _______________________________________________ > java-gnome-hackers mailing list > jav...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/java-gnome-hackers > |
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