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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

Our site is currently quite out of date.  The java-gnome team
is interested in finding somebody that will take responsibility
to stay informed on the status of the project, coordinate with
all of the translators, and ensure that the site is kept 
up-to-date.  If you are interested in this task please respond
to this list.

-Jeff

> Hi,
>   Sorry for not responding to the website for a long time - 
> we have been
> very busy preparing the code for the gnome bindings release. 
> It is clear
> that we need to keep the website more updated. Your work on 
> the website
> has been absolutely fantastic - it looks really great and 
> professional.
> I was hoping that perhaps you would consider staying on as webmaster.
> Since you might not follow java-gnome development as closely as us, I
> will send you detailed information about what updates need to be made
> each time. In addition to updating the site, could you possibly
> coordinate the translations too? we have quite a few people writing
> translations at the moment. One suggestion was to have a 
> "team" page on
> the website which gives details of everyone in the java-gnome 
> team. This
> could also be used to keep track of the status of the translations.
> 
> Please do edit my changes to make them sound better - english 
> never was
> one of my strongest abilities.
> 
> Current updates:
>   
> Front page - add a new paragraph
> Java-Gnome is committed to providing a reliable API for GNOME 
> to be used
> in real applications. As such, we are part of the official <a
> href="http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/bindings">Gnome Bindings
> Release</a>. This commits us to high quality releases and a release
> schedule closely following the main gnome release schedule.
> 
> 
> News:
> It might be best to replace this page with a link to cvsweb. Then it
> wouldn't require as much work to keep updated. 
> CVSweb is down at the moment, so I can't give a url. The file 
> needed is 
> java-gnome/common/NEWS
> 
> Roadmap - please change to:
> 
> We will follow the <a
> href="http://www.gnome.org/start/2.5/bindings">Gnome bindings release
> schedule</a>. This includes making stable releases which change API
> every 6 months followed by a number of bug fix releases. When gnome
> start work on their next version, we will also start work modifying
> java-gnome for it. During this developmental period, we will make
> developmental releases of our latest code roughly every two weeks.
> 
> Version numbers will always follow GNOME/GTK version numbers - i.e.
> a.b.c where b being odd indicates a developmental release and even
> indicating a stable release.
> 
> Throughout all releases, we ... + last paragraph from current roadmap
> 
> Supporting New Libraries
> As we get time, we also hope to provide support for new 
> libraries. These
> will be released when ready and will not follow the schedule 
> until they
> become reasonably complete and stable. Current plans for new additions
> include:
> gnome-panel-applet
> gtkhtml
> libvte
> Work has already started on some of these, but they are not 
> yet of good
> enough quality to enter the gnome bindings release.
> 
> 
> Download:
> Stable Releases
> The current stable release series is 0.8.x. This provides support for
> gtk 2.0 / gnome 2.2. The current release includes tarballs for each
> individual module, plus an all-in-one java-gnome tarball. Most
> developers recommend using this tarball. 
> 
> Sources are available from <link>sourceforge</link>
> 
> Precompiled Debian packages are available in the main distribution.
> <code>apt-get install libjava-gnome-doc libgtk0-java libgnome0-java
> libglade0-java</code>
> 
> RPMs  -- is anyone creating these?
> 
> If anybody creates precompiled binary packages for other platforms,
> please send us a link.
> 
> Developmental Releases
> Current developmental releases are available in the gnome bindings
> release at ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/bindings/Java/. The all-in-one
> tarball is available from link:sourceforge.
> 
> The very latest code is available from <link>cvs
> 
> Support (new section in download)
> We are more than pleased to help new developers get started with
> java-gnome. Please send your queries to
> jav...@li....
> 
> Applications:
> please replace the top two paragraphs with:
> The following is a taste of some of the applications written with
> Java-Gnome. If you would have written an application in Java-Gnome,
> please send a link to your website (with screenshots) and we'll add it
> to the list.
> 
> Related links:
> Please add the gnome bindings release.
> 
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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] need Guidiance in Open source projects .

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

How is your search going for finding an open source project?

-Jeff

> Here are my suggestions.
> 
> 1) Take the time to think about what you enjoy.  Contrary to
> what many believe it is work to join a project and stay with
> it to the point where you are a good contributor.  Please look
> at several projects and select the one that you think you can
> stick with.
> 
> 2) Once you have selected the project you wish to join I would
> suggest getting started by submitting patches to the project via
> the list.  This gives you a chance to get to know the project before
> you make the commitment to the team members.
> 
> 3) Once you are really sure you wish to joing a project announce 
> this to the team.  Ask the team on a good approach to get started
> on the project and where your skills can help the most.  Know that
> initially you my be asked to perform some of the grunt work like
> updating documentation, updating example programs, etc. until you 
> are able to prove yourself.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> > Hi,
> >   I'm sorry but I've not read your email. The first rule of 
> > working with
> > open source projects is that everyone hates html emails. Most people
> > will simply pass them off as spam (perhaps automatically) and 
> > never read
> > them. Many people (such as myself) prefer non-graphical 
> email programs
> > such as mutt - these are thousands of times faster when dealing with
> > hundreds of emails per day; we don't view html in mutt as default.
> > 
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[Java-gnome-developer] gladee and using widgets

[Alex M. <ale...@gl...>]

Sorry, i forgot to send the glade file.
-- 
  Alex Moreno

[Java-gnome-developer] problems with treeview

[Alex M. <ale...@fa...>]

Hi,

i´m working on porting a password manager written in swing to
java-gnome and, at the same time, i´m writing a glade tutorial with
those things wich i´m learning.

Now i´m working on treeview and i´ve got a little problem. When
i get the libglade widget i try to add new nodes to the tree, but
treeview doesn´t respond. I´m doing something like this:

//************** CODE *******************//

            main = (Window) libglade.getWidget("main");
            tree = (TreeView) libglade.getWidget("treeview");

			// Make some data blocks to refer to the data for the tree
			DataBlockString dataString = new DataBlockString();
			DataBlockInt dataInt = new DataBlockInt();
			DataBlockBoolean dataBool = new DataBlockBoolean();
			DataBlockPixbuf dataPix = new DataBlockPixbuf();
[....]

			// create a new column to be visible in the output, set a title for it and
			// append it to the tree.
			TreeViewColumn column1 = new TreeViewColumn();
			column1.setTitle("Main Data");
			tree.appendColumn( column1 );

			tree.show();
			main.showAll();		

//************** CODE *******************//

That last lines should to include the new column to the tree, as shown in
java-gnome examples... but as i said, it doesn´t happens anything. 

Doing something like 
		tree = new TreeView(store);
didn´t help.

In swing i often modified trees getting the tree model and working on it:

				DefaultTreeModel model;
				model = (DefaultTreeModel)controlador.cvp.win.jt.getModel();

				//insercion del nuevo nodo en el jtree
				model.insertNodeInto(nuevoNodo,chosen, 0);

but this doesn´t seems to work on java-gnome.


Can anyone help me or send me a treeview java-gnome example designed in
glade? Thanks a lot.
-- 
  Alex Moreno

[Java-gnome-developer] problems with treeview

[Alex M. <ale...@gl...>]

Hi,

i´m working on porting a password manager written in swing to
java-gnome and, at the same time, i´m writing a glade tutorial with
those things wich i´m learning.

Now i´m working on treeview and i´ve got a little problem. When
i get the libglade widget i try to add new nodes to the tree, but
treeview doesn´t respond. I´m doing something like this:

//************** CODE *******************//

            main = (Window) libglade.getWidget("main");
            tree = (TreeView) libglade.getWidget("treeview");

			// Make some data blocks to refer to the data for the tree
			DataBlockString dataString = new DataBlockString();
			DataBlockInt dataInt = new DataBlockInt();
			DataBlockBoolean dataBool = new DataBlockBoolean();
			DataBlockPixbuf dataPix = new DataBlockPixbuf();
[....]

			// create a new column to be visible in the output, set a title for it and
			// append it to the tree.
			TreeViewColumn column1 = new TreeViewColumn();
			column1.setTitle("Main Data");
			tree.appendColumn( column1 );

			tree.show();
			main.showAll();		

//************** CODE *******************//

That last lines should to include the new column to the tree, as shown in
java-gnome examples... but as i said, it doesn´t happens anything. 

Doing something like 
		tree = new TreeView(store);
didn´t help.

In swing i often modified trees getting the tree model and working on it:

				DefaultTreeModel model;
				model = (DefaultTreeModel)controlador.cvp.win.jt.getModel();

				//insercion del nuevo nodo en el jtree
				model.insertNodeInto(nuevoNodo,chosen, 0);

but this doesn´t seems to work on java-gnome.


Can anyone help me or send me a treeview java-gnome example designed in
glade? Thanks a lot.
-- 
  Alex Moreno

[Java-gnome-developer] New UIManager and related classes

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

In the latest gnome/gtk development libs the UIInfo and ItemFactory
classes have been deprecated.  The developers have introduced
a new Action based menu/toolbar creation and management
API.  I am currently incorporating this into java-gnome.  cvs has
the latest work in progress but please don't rush out and test it
because there are still several problems with the code and the
RadioAction event propagation is not complete.  The API that
is currently in java-gnome is nearly identical to the gtk library.
I have written an example program that demonstrates the new
classes and I would like to get your feedback.  Please let me
know if you like this approach and what we might be able to
do to improve on the gtk implementation.  The example is 
attached.

-Jeff


 <<UIManagerExample.java>> 

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] libgconf-java-2.5.2

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

I have just applied this patch to the HEAD.  I hope to
apply this to the 0.8.2 support branch sometime today
but for some reason I am not able to see this branch
at this time.

-Jeff


> Thanks for you help.  The gconf module was something I had
> just started when we joined the GNOME Platform Bindings.  I
> know it is currently half baked and have not had a chance 
> to return to it to fix a few of the errors.  I will apply
> you patch sometime today.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> > I've moved on to trying to port libgconf-java to FreeBSD, and I'm
> > running into numerous problems.  I looked at your CVS, but 
> it doesn't
> > look like the split exists there, so I'm wondering if you 
> have another
> > repo somewhere other than Sourceforge.
> > 
> > In any event, here's what I'm seeing.  First of all, configure is
> > looking for gtk/src/jni/org_gnu_gtk_Gtk.c to find the source 
> > code.  This
> > file doesn't exist in the GConf bindings.  I had to change
> > ac_unique_file to src/jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfClient.c to get 
> > configure to
> > run.  Second, configure doesn't both to check for _any_ GConf libs. 
> > This causes the build to die in the linking phase.  Third, 
> there are a
> > lot of C99-isms in src/jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfClient.c.  
> Attached is a
> > patch that fixes them as well as some other compiler 
> > warnings.  Fourth,
> > the various @*version@ macros are not expanded in the 
> > Makefile.in which
> > causes some strange build results.
> > 
> > Sorry if these are known issues.  I didn't see them reported on the
> > mailing list, under Bugs, and wasn't sure if the CVS repo was 
> > up-to-date
> > with regard to the split.  Thanks.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > -- 
> > Joe Marcus Clarke
> > FreeBSD GNOME Team	::	gn...@Fr...
> > FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
> > 
> 
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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] Adding OptionMenuEvent to LibGlade

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

Thanks for the patch.  We can apply this to our 0.8.2 support
stream.  Please be aware, in gtk 2.3.x the OptionMenu has been
deprecated.  In order to comply with the rules of the GNOME 
Platform Bindings this widget will also be deprecated in
java-gnome

-Jeff

> I noticed that the Java bindings don't support OptionMenuEvent
> in libglade.  Here is the trivial change to add support:
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> New file glade/src/java/org/gnu/glade/OptionMenuDelegate.java:
> 
> package org.gnu.glade;
> 
> import java.lang.reflect.Method;
> 
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.OptionMenuEvent;
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.OptionMenuListener;
> 
> /**
> * OptionMenuListener delegate class.
> *
> * @author Tom Ball
> */
> class OptionMenuDelegate extends ListenerDelegate implements 
> OptionMenuListener {
> 
> 	public OptionMenuDelegate(String signal, Object owner, 
> Method handler, 
> Object target) throws NoSuchMethodException {
> 		super(signal, owner, handler, target);
> 	}
> 
> 	public void optionMenuEvent(OptionMenuEvent event) {
> 		fireEvent(event);
> 	}
> }
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
> Diff to ListenerDelegate.java:
> 
> diff -u -3 -r1.7 ListenerDelegate.java
> --- glade/src/java/org/gnu/glade/ListenerDelegate.java	
> 19 Aug 2003 12:30:42 
> -0000	1.7
> +++ glade/src/java/org/gnu/glade/ListenerDelegate.java	
> 12 Jan 2004 01:24:55 
> -0000
> @@ -42,6 +42,7 @@
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.MenuItemListener;
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.MouseListener;
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.NotebookListener;
> +import org.gnu.gtk.event.OptionMenuListener;
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.RangeListener;
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.ScaleListener;
> import org.gnu.gtk.event.SpinListener;
> @@ -154,6 +155,7 @@
> 		delegateMap.put(MenuItemListener.class, 
> MenuItemDelegate.class); 
> 		delegateMap.put(MouseListener.class, 
> MouseDelegate.class);
> 		delegateMap.put(NotebookListener.class, 
> NotebookDelegate.class);+		
> delegateMap.put(OptionMenuListener.class, 
> OptionMenuDelegate.class);
> 		delegateMap.put(RangeListener.class, 
> RangeDelegate.class);
> 		delegateMap.put(ScaleListener.class, 
> ScaleDelegate.class);
> 		delegateMap.put(SpinListener.class, SpinDelegate.class);
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RE: [Java-gnome-developer] libgconf-java-2.5.2

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

Thanks for you help.  The gconf module was something I had
just started when we joined the GNOME Platform Bindings.  I
know it is currently half baked and have not had a chance 
to return to it to fix a few of the errors.  I will apply
you patch sometime today.

-Jeff

> I've moved on to trying to port libgconf-java to FreeBSD, and I'm
> running into numerous problems.  I looked at your CVS, but it doesn't
> look like the split exists there, so I'm wondering if you have another
> repo somewhere other than Sourceforge.
> 
> In any event, here's what I'm seeing.  First of all, configure is
> looking for gtk/src/jni/org_gnu_gtk_Gtk.c to find the source 
> code.  This
> file doesn't exist in the GConf bindings.  I had to change
> ac_unique_file to src/jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfClient.c to get 
> configure to
> run.  Second, configure doesn't both to check for _any_ GConf libs. 
> This causes the build to die in the linking phase.  Third, there are a
> lot of C99-isms in src/jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfClient.c.  Attached is a
> patch that fixes them as well as some other compiler 
> warnings.  Fourth,
> the various @*version@ macros are not expanded in the 
> Makefile.in which
> causes some strange build results.
> 
> Sorry if these are known issues.  I didn't see them reported on the
> mailing list, under Bugs, and wasn't sure if the CVS repo was 
> up-to-date
> with regard to the split.  Thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -- 
> Joe Marcus Clarke
> FreeBSD GNOME Team	::	gn...@Fr...
> FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
> http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
> 

[Java-gnome-developer] Adding OptionMenuEvent to LibGlade

[Jeff L. <jef...@ho...>]

Hi,

I noticed that the Java bindings don't support OptionMenuEvent
in libglade.  Here is the trivial change to add support:

------------------------------

New file glade/src/java/org/gnu/glade/OptionMenuDelegate.java:

package org.gnu.glade;

import java.lang.reflect.Method;

import org.gnu.gtk.event.OptionMenuEvent;
import org.gnu.gtk.event.OptionMenuListener;

/**
* OptionMenuListener delegate class.
*
* @author Tom Ball
*/
class OptionMenuDelegate extends ListenerDelegate implements 
OptionMenuListener {

	public OptionMenuDelegate(String signal, Object owner, Method handler, 
Object target) throws NoSuchMethodException {
		super(signal, owner, handler, target);
	}

	public void optionMenuEvent(OptionMenuEvent event) {
		fireEvent(event);
	}
}

----------------------------------

Diff to ListenerDelegate.java:

diff -u -3 -r1.7 ListenerDelegate.java
--- glade/src/java/org/gnu/glade/ListenerDelegate.java	19 Aug 2003 12:30:42 
-0000	1.7
+++ glade/src/java/org/gnu/glade/ListenerDelegate.java	12 Jan 2004 01:24:55 
-0000
@@ -42,6 +42,7 @@
import org.gnu.gtk.event.MenuItemListener;
import org.gnu.gtk.event.MouseListener;
import org.gnu.gtk.event.NotebookListener;
+import org.gnu.gtk.event.OptionMenuListener;
import org.gnu.gtk.event.RangeListener;
import org.gnu.gtk.event.ScaleListener;
import org.gnu.gtk.event.SpinListener;
@@ -154,6 +155,7 @@
		delegateMap.put(MenuItemListener.class, MenuItemDelegate.class); 
		delegateMap.put(MouseListener.class, MouseDelegate.class);
		delegateMap.put(NotebookListener.class, 
NotebookDelegate.class);+		delegateMap.put(OptionMenuListener.class, 
OptionMenuDelegate.class);
		delegateMap.put(RangeListener.class, RangeDelegate.class);
		delegateMap.put(ScaleListener.class, ScaleDelegate.class);
		delegateMap.put(SpinListener.class, SpinDelegate.class);

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] gcj-only build [was: ANOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2]

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il sab, 2004-01-10 alle 20:16, li...@lo... ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> > > Maybe I am not understanding the configure options correctly, or --help is not
> > > showing all them. What I want to acomplish:
> > > 
> > > 1. Build Java-Gnome (or at least java-gtk and java-glade packages) using only
> > > GCJ/GIJ, no need for another JVM/javac. So far configure allways complains it
> > > needs a JDK. :-(
> >
> > I don't think there is actually an option to build without a VM (and a
> > without a java compiler, gcj excluded). Any thougths?
> 
> If there isn't, I think it's a configure bug. GCJ can compile to bytecodes (can
> do the same work as jikes or kaffe kjc) and it includes a VM, started by
> command gij, so it can execute regular java apps compiled to bytecodes. You
> should need anything except GCJ to compile java-gnome.
Ok, I've understood your point: at the moment this can be done with
wrappers, they also permit to run and compile eclipse with gij, gcj.
Read this (from Mark Wielaard):

<quote>
Hi all,

After finally getting the latest Eclipse 3.0 M4 working with gij
<http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java/2003-11/msg00024.html>
I tried to get the java-gnome bindings
<http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/>
and the eclipse java-gnome plugin wizard
<http://zeta.zizworks.com/public/projects/java-gnome.do>
all working together.
</quote>

It should work with java-gnome too.

> Has anyone tried to provide java/javac wrappers for gij/gcj?
Read above.

> I think that, instead of fool
> configure, we should fix it.
Agreed, but this implies at least we provide an option for all compiler
interpreters around, and this could be not very easy to mantain.
Maybe you could provide some patches for adding options to use gij as
interpreter and gcj as bytecode compiler, (apart from using it as a
native lib compiler).
Also, if you are going to hack on it, please use the cvs head version ;)

-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] gcj-only build [was: ANOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2]

[<li...@lo...>]

Hi,

> > Maybe I am not understanding the configure options correctly, or --help is not
> > showing all them. What I want to acomplish:
> > 
> > 1. Build Java-Gnome (or at least java-gtk and java-glade packages) using only
> > GCJ/GIJ, no need for another JVM/javac. So far configure allways complains it
> > needs a JDK. :-(
>
> I don't think there is actually an option to build without a VM (and a
> without a java compiler, gcj excluded). Any thougths?

If there isn't, I think it's a configure bug. GCJ can compile to bytecodes (can
do the same work as jikes or kaffe kjc) and it includes a VM, started by
command gij, so it can execute regular java apps compiled to bytecodes. You
should need anything except GCJ to compile java-gnome.

Has anyone tried to provide java/javac wrappers for gij/gcj? Red Hat Linux used
to provide these wrappers (to compile OpenOffice 1.0.x, not needed anymore for
1.1.0). This will be my next attemp, but I think that, instead of fool
configure, we should fix it.


[]s, Fernando Lozano

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] gcj-only build [was: ANOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2]

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il sab, 2004-01-10 alle 18:36, li...@lo... ha scritto:
> Hi,
> 
> > > So the patches to compile using only gcj or kaffe are on 
> > > 2.5.1/2.5.2, not on
> > > 0.8.2. right?
> > 
> > No this is not right.  Support for gcj and kaffe have been
> > in java-gnome for nearly two years.  If you have version 0.8.2
> > you can simply use the configure options to specify which
> > you are using.
> 
> Maybe I am not understanding the configure options correctly, or --help is not
> showing all them. What I want to acomplish:
> 
> 1. Build Java-Gnome (or at least java-gtk and java-glade packages) using only
> GCJ/GIJ, no need for another JVM/javac. So far configure allways complains it
> needs a JDK. :-(
I don't think there is actually an option to build without a VM (and a
without a java compiler, gcj excluded). Any thougths?

> 2. Then I'd try to hack java-gnome so it builds using mingw/msys, the Win32
> port of GCC and GCJ. I tried to hack the conventional build, but it proved to
> be too hard (at least for me) to reconciliate the differences betweeb
> Posix-based conventions of make, bash and so on (from msys) and Windows
> conventions from the JDK. I managed to get some results, but no simple app
> could be made to run. I hope using only GCJ will ease the Win32 port.
This will be something I'll try for sure after  I'll have my hand on new
hardware   (hopefully it will happen in about 2 weeks ;)

-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

[Java-gnome-developer] gcj-only build [was: ANOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2]

[<li...@lo...>]

Hi,

> > So the patches to compile using only gcj or kaffe are on 
> > 2.5.1/2.5.2, not on
> > 0.8.2. right?
> 
> No this is not right.  Support for gcj and kaffe have been
> in java-gnome for nearly two years.  If you have version 0.8.2
> you can simply use the configure options to specify which
> you are using.

Maybe I am not understanding the configure options correctly, or --help is not
showing all them. What I want to acomplish:

1. Build Java-Gnome (or at least java-gtk and java-glade packages) using only
GCJ/GIJ, no need for another JVM/javac. So far configure allways complains it
needs a JDK. :-(

2. Then I'd try to hack java-gnome so it builds using mingw/msys, the Win32
port of GCC and GCJ. I tried to hack the conventional build, but it proved to
be too hard (at least for me) to reconciliate the differences betweeb
Posix-based conventions of make, bash and so on (from msys) and Windows
conventions from the JDK. I managed to get some results, but no simple app
could be made to run. I hope using only GCJ will ease the Win32 port.

If it's possible to to this using 0.8.2, I'll insist and apreciante any hint.
If it isn't, I'll try to move to the development version.


[]s, Fernando Lozano

[Java-gnome-developer] libgconf-java-2.5.2

[Joe M. C. <ma...@Fr...>]

I've moved on to trying to port libgconf-java to FreeBSD, and I'm
running into numerous problems.  I looked at your CVS, but it doesn't
look like the split exists there, so I'm wondering if you have another
repo somewhere other than Sourceforge.

In any event, here's what I'm seeing.  First of all, configure is
looking for gtk/src/jni/org_gnu_gtk_Gtk.c to find the source code.  This
file doesn't exist in the GConf bindings.  I had to change
ac_unique_file to src/jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfClient.c to get configure to
run.  Second, configure doesn't both to check for _any_ GConf libs. 
This causes the build to die in the linking phase.  Third, there are a
lot of C99-isms in src/jni/org_gnu_gconf_ConfClient.c.  Attached is a
patch that fixes them as well as some other compiler warnings.  Fourth,
the various @*version@ macros are not expanded in the Makefile.in which
causes some strange build results.

Sorry if these are known issues.  I didn't see them reported on the
mailing list, under Bugs, and wasn't sure if the CVS repo was up-to-date
with regard to the split.  Thanks.

Joe

-- 
Joe Marcus Clarke
FreeBSD GNOME Team	::	gn...@Fr...
FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] FW: ANNOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il ven, 2004-01-09 alle 20:05, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto:
> > So the patches to compile using only gcj or kaffe are on 
> > 2.5.1/2.5.2, not on
> > 0.8.2. And I need to update my Gnome packages to the 
> > development release, i
> > can't use the Gnome packages from Fedora Core 1 or other 
> > recent Linux distro,
> > right?
Wrong. Java-gnome *always* had the possibility of being built with free
tools only. AFAIK it supports kaffe out of the box. AFAICT there is no
way to have a pure gcj compile.
You can also build it with any free java compiler (jikes) and with any
free interpreter. (only sablevm has problems).
Look back in the list: there are lots of threads about this issue: it's
a matter of having a java and a javac wrappers pointing to the
interpreter and compiler you whish to use.

> I do understand that needing to update to the latest gnome packages
> will be a hassle in the short term if you wish to get the latest
> java-gnome releases.  Over time this will be to your benefit.  
Totally agreed.
> We also
> will continue to support and provide fixes for stable releases
> while we are working on the development branch.
In fact, maybe, it's better if you stick with the 0.8.2 release you find
on Sf, if you intended to write java-gnome apps.
Instead if you want to contribute to the project is essential that you
install the latest Gnome.

 And I need to update my Gnome packages to the development release, i
> can't use the Gnome packages from Fedora Core 1 or other recent Linux distro,
> right?
Linux distros don't tend to include develepment releases in their os.

> It would be too much work to try to backport the development version of
> java-gnome to compile under Fedora, without other updates?
You can run the stable version: I run it on RH9 without upgrades.
For the head version you need the following, at least:

GConf-2.4.0.1
ORBit2-2.9.2
gail-1.5.2
glib-2.3.1
gnome-keyring-0.1
gnome-vfs-2.5.3
gtk+-2.3.1
libbonobo-2.5.1
libglade-2.3.1
libgnome-2.5.1
libgnomecanvas-2.5.1
libgnomeui-2.5.1
libgtkhtml-2.5.0

I've managed to download them with a 56k modem! It's not that long.
You can grab them all from:
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/desktop/2.5/2.5.1/sources


> > Another question: are you tagging releases on CVS? Maybe I am 
> > confused by
> > SourceForge WebCVS, but I could not find the tag to checkout 2.5.1.
> 
> I am not sure about WebCVS but I can assure the releases are tagged.
> The latest stable release is tagged RELEASE_0_8_2 and the latest
> development release is tagged DEV_2_5_2.
You can checkout a working copy, with cvs, without tags: it will
download the head version of java-gnome, and this is what you need if
you want to hack on java-gnome.

Happy hacking ;)
-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] FW: ANNOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

> So the patches to compile using only gcj or kaffe are on 
> 2.5.1/2.5.2, not on
> 0.8.2. And I need to update my Gnome packages to the 
> development release, i
> can't use the Gnome packages from Fedora Core 1 or other 
> recent Linux distro,
> right?

No this is not right.  Support for gcj and kaffe have been
in java-gnome for nearly two years.  If you have version 0.8.2
you can simply use the configure options to specify which
you are using.  I believe the parameter for kaffe is --with-kaffe.
To get a list of all of the options you can execute

./configure --help

in the root directory of the project.

I do understand that needing to update to the latest gnome packages
will be a hassle in the short term if you wish to get the latest
java-gnome releases.  Over time this will be to your benefit.  When
your distro finally moves to gnome 2.6 it will hopefully also have
java-gnome 2.6.  This will mean that you will have a release of
java-gnome that is designed to work with your environment.  We also
will continue to support and provide fixes for stable releases
while we are working on the development branch.

> Another question: are you tagging releases on CVS? Maybe I am 
> confused by
> SourceForge WebCVS, but I could not find the tag to checkout 2.5.1.

I am not sure about WebCVS but I can assure the releases are tagged.
The latest stable release is tagged RELEASE_0_8_2 and the latest
development release is tagged DEV_2_5_2.

-Jeff

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] FW: ANNOUNCE: GNOME Platform Bindings 2.5.2

[<li...@lo...>]

Hi Jeffrey,

So the patches to compile using only gcj or kaffe are on 2.5.1/2.5.2, not on
0.8.2. And I need to update my Gnome packages to the development release, i
can't use the Gnome packages from Fedora Core 1 or other recent Linux distro,
right?

It would be too much work to try to backport the development version of
java-gnome to compile under Fedora, without other updates?

Another question: are you tagging releases on CVS? Maybe I am confused by
SourceForge WebCVS, but I could not find the tag to checkout 2.5.1.


[]s, Fernando Lozano

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] need Guidiance in Open source projects .

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

Here are my suggestions.

1) Take the time to think about what you enjoy.  Contrary to
what many believe it is work to join a project and stay with
it to the point where you are a good contributor.  Please look
at several projects and select the one that you think you can
stick with.

2) Once you have selected the project you wish to join I would
suggest getting started by submitting patches to the project via
the list.  This gives you a chance to get to know the project before
you make the commitment to the team members.

3) Once you are really sure you wish to joing a project announce 
this to the team.  Ask the team on a good approach to get started
on the project and where your skills can help the most.  Know that
initially you my be asked to perform some of the grunt work like
updating documentation, updating example programs, etc. until you 
are able to prove yourself.

-Jeff

> Hi,
>   I'm sorry but I've not read your email. The first rule of 
> working with
> open source projects is that everyone hates html emails. Most people
> will simply pass them off as spam (perhaps automatically) and 
> never read
> them. Many people (such as myself) prefer non-graphical email programs
> such as mutt - these are thousands of times faster when dealing with
> hundreds of emails per day; we don't view html in mutt as default.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:49:24AM +0000, uppal maurya wrote:
> > <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Hi,</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am fresh 
> computer sc. engineering graduate from India .Well I need the 
> kind gudiance of you developers .I want to be part of the 
> open source community in developing new things.How can i 
> contribute or be part of the opensource projects.I am briefly 
> describing my skills as</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>languages : C(expert), C++, JAVA (intermediate)</DIV>
> > <DIV 
> class=RTE>OS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
> bsp; : linux, win9x/2000(intermediate)</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>Rdbms&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :Oracle 
> 8i(intermediate)</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>Other Interests : java progrmming, Servlets 
> , JSP, EJB 2.0 ,JDBC,RMI, Weblogic Application server 
> 8.1(intermediate) , Apache (beginner),&nbsp; Tomcat(beginner), </DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>I have strong OS and DBMS concepts .</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>my email ID is <A 
> href="mailto:upp...@ho...">upp...@ho...
> m</A> , i would love to here from anyone who can guide me </DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>At present i am preparing for SCJP 1.4 , and 
> looking forward for an good job along with to be in open 
> source development .i assure you all if given to do something 
> i will finish it in time .</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>thanking &nbsp;you all</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>in &nbsp;hope of getting some&nbsp;relevent 
> reply soon</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>regards ,</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>UPPAL KUMAR MAURYA</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>BE (Computer Sc. and Engineering )</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>
> > <DIV class=RTE>WEST BENGAL</DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>INDIA</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Send DD, 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome 2.5.2 and free jvms

[Kevin S. C. <ksc...@st...>]

On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 13:58, Mark Howard wrote:

> I don't think anybody has tried on windows, but it should be possible --
> could you try for us perhaps?  We would be very interested in seeing the
> results. I know a lot of people are interested to see java-gnome in
> windows.

I tried several times with an older version, but was not able to get all
the other dependencies (GTK, and its) compiled on Windows, but then
again I have very little experience compiling on Windows.

I, for one, would be very interested if someone gets it to work on
Windows as that is the only reason I haven't used Java-Gnome (I need a
cross-platform GUI).  I'll probably get around to trying again sometime,
but just do not have the time now...

Kevin

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java-gnome 2.5.2 and free jvms

[<li...@lo...>]

Hi,

> > A question I could not answer from changelogs and readme's: is it possible to
> > build java-gnome (or at least java-gtk and java-glade) without a Sun JVM or
> > derived (like IBM or Backdown)? That is, am I able to build java-gnome using
> > only Kaffe or GCJ? 
> Yes, i've tested with gcj for compiling and kaffe and gij for running

But you mean release 0.8.2? The web site states the latest release is 0.8.1,
but on sourceforge I can get 0.8.2. Tried on Fedora Core 1 (no updates), which
provided gcc/gcj 3.2.2, which should be good enough. But the configure script
complains it needs a Java2 SDK.

Maybe you are refering to 2.5.2 (is this the correct release number?). I've
seen many references to releases like that on this list during the latest
weeks, but I can't find the download files. Should I get it from CVS?


[]s, Fernando Lozano

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] need Guidiance in Open source projects.

[Rafael G. <rg...@ya...>]

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:18:22 +0000
Mark Howard <mh...@ca...> wrote:

The only problem about mutt is that i can't talk smtp :( thats why i use sylpheed on my desktop machine :D

> Hi,
>   I'm sorry but I've not read your email. The first rule of working with
> open source projects is that everyone hates html emails. Most people
> will simply pass them off as spam (perhaps automatically) and never read
> them. Many people (such as myself) prefer non-graphical email programs
> such as mutt - these are thousands of times faster when dealing with
> hundreds of emails per day; we don't view html in mutt as default.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:49:24AM +0000, uppal maurya wrote:
> > <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Hi,</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am fresh computer sc. engineering graduate from India .Well I need the kind gudiance of you developers .I want to be part of the open source community in developing new things.How can i contribute or be part of the opensource projects.I am briefly describing my skills as</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>languages : C(expert), C++, JAVA (intermediate)</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>OS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : linux, win9x/2000(intermediate)</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>Rdbms&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :Oracle 8i(intermediate)</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>Other Interests : java progrmming, Servlets , JSP, EJB 2.0 ,JDBC,RMI, Weblogic Application server 8.1(intermediate) , Apache (beginner),&nbsp; Tomcat(beginner), </DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>I have strong OS and DBMS concepts .</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>my email ID is <A href="mailto:upp...@ho...">upp...@ho...</A> , i would love to here from anyone who can guide me </DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>At present i am preparing for SCJP 1.4 , and looking forward for an good job along with to be in open source development .i assure you all if given to do something i will finish it in time .</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>thanking &nbsp;you all</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>in &nbsp;hope of getting some&nbsp;relevent reply soon</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>regards ,</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>UPPAL KUMAR MAURYA</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>BE (Computer Sc. and Engineering )</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>
> > <DIV class=RTE>WEST BENGAL</DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>INDIA</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Send DD, pay no commission. <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMBENIN/2740??PS=">Click here.</a> </html>
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > jav...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/java-gnome-developer
> > 
> 
> -- 
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>  : :' :
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> 
> 
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] need Guidiance in Open source projects.

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il gio, 2004-01-08 alle 15:18, Mark Howard ha scritto:
> Hi,
>   I'm sorry but I've not read your email. The first rule of working with
> open source projects is that everyone hates html emails. 
Eh,eh, eh ;) Win, win!!
-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

[Java-gnome-developer] New Java-Gnome and Eclipse

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Hi,
now that we have autoconf for us which substitutes the @apiversion@ in
GObject and similar, what is your approach for hacking from  within
Eclipse?
If you leave things in this way, obviously it fins a lot of errors (it
can't resolve the GObject class etc...).
If you simply put the apiversion in, I'm afraid it will conflict when
committing new code. What do you think?
-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] need Guidiance in Open source projects.

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

Hi,
  I'm sorry but I've not read your email. The first rule of working with
open source projects is that everyone hates html emails. Most people
will simply pass them off as spam (perhaps automatically) and never read
them. Many people (such as myself) prefer non-graphical email programs
such as mutt - these are thousands of times faster when dealing with
hundreds of emails per day; we don't view html in mutt as default.

On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:49:24AM +0000, uppal maurya wrote:
> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Hi,</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am fresh computer sc. engineering graduate from India .Well I need the kind gudiance of you developers .I want to be part of the open source community in developing new things.How can i contribute or be part of the opensource projects.I am briefly describing my skills as</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>languages : C(expert), C++, JAVA (intermediate)</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>OS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : linux, win9x/2000(intermediate)</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>Rdbms&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :Oracle 8i(intermediate)</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>Other Interests : java progrmming, Servlets , JSP, EJB 2.0 ,JDBC,RMI, Weblogic Application server 8.1(intermediate) , Apache (beginner),&nbsp; Tomcat(beginner), </DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>I have strong OS and DBMS concepts .</DIV>
> <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
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