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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:36:07AM +0100, Luca De Rugeriis wrote:
> Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 16:28, Alberto Gimeno ha scritto:
> >  Now, In the cvs repository is the old version
> > of the web, could somebody delete the java-gnome-web and java-gnome-site
> > directories in the cvs repository??
> I could remove these if anyone doesn't mind.

Well, you can remove the files. CVS doesn't let you remove directories,
which can be annoying sometimes. 

It would be a good if we could get the latest version of the website
into cvs.

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: java autoconf macros

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:44:28AM +0100, Luca De Rugeriis wrote:
> I have to say that the source doesn't compile correctly: out of the box,
> I've ended up with only ligtk-java, ligtkvte-java, because of many
> unresolved symbols in the Gnome module, ad in the Glade module (as a
> consequence, either gconf or gtkhtml were not built).
Have you compiled java-gnome on that machine before? it sounds like
you're missing some of the gnome-dev libraries.


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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Nicolas M. <ni...@be...>]

I'm translating it to Dutch

Rafael George <rg...@ya...> said:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:25:28 +0100 (CET)
> "Nicolas Mommaerts" <ni...@be...> wrote:
>
> I want to help you with the translation of the, can you tell me to whic=
h
> language are you translating the tutorial, i want to to translate it to
> spanish.
>
>> Hello Alberto,
>> I have already started translating the tutorial with the sgml file. I'=
ll
>> wait for the xml files and once everything is complete (could take a
>> while
>> given the size of the tutorial), I'll mail it to you
>>
>> Greetz,
>> Nico
>>
>> Alberto Gimeno said:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> >> > Do we have somebody who volunteered to keep the website maintaine=
d?
>> > or
>> >> > do we need new help?
>> >> I know of Alberto Gimeno: recently I've sended a bunch of screensho=
ts
>> > to
>> >> him who's claiming to be the site maintainer. (I think he's the
>> >> translator for spanish too.)
>> >> Nico, you can send every question you may have to the list, since
>> >> Alberto will receive them ;)
>> >
>> > Yes, I am. I have translated the web into Spanish and I am the web
>> > desinger. I also update the information about roadmap, news,
>> > screenshots,... but I think this work should be done by other person
>> > because I don't know about details of gnome bindings release, new
>> > schedule, stable vs development releases.
>> >
>> > Well. I create the html from xml files. Each xml file contains one
>> > section of the website translated into various languages. Throught a=
n
>> > ant script and XSLT I transform these xml files into html files.
>> > Nicolas, I am going to send you the xml source files. Send me the
>> > translated files and I will update the website. Maybe this files
>> should
>> > be in the cvs repository. Now, In the cvs repository is the old
>> version
>> > of the web, could somebody delete the java-gnome-web and
>> java-gnome-site
>> > directories in the cvs repository??
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: java autoconf macros

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mer, 2003-12-17 alle 09:38, Mark Howard ha scritto:
> I'm not sure how to do this. People were reporting problems with
> autoconf 2.57 -- I'm not sure what they were, or what caused them. My
> suspicion is that our aclocal.m4 has problems in it - unfortunately I
> don't know how to change it. 
> This is not such a big problem as it looks. build/maketarballs.sh runs
> autoconf in the right directories as it builds the tarballs - so tarball
> users won't need autoconf at all.
Good point, users will be able to get a source tree with already
generated cofigure scripts.

I have to say that the source doesn't compile correctly: out of the box,
I've ended up with only ligtk-java, ligtkvte-java, because of many
unresolved symbols in the Gnome module, ad in the Glade module (as a
consequence, either gconf or gtkhtml were not built).

However, with such a slow hardware, I have't tracked the compilation
process carefully (very long compile time). So I'll let you know if I
still have problem on the net days, when hopefully I could build it on a
faster pc.

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 16:28, Alberto Gimeno ha scritto:
>  Now, In the cvs repository is the old version
> of the web, could somebody delete the java-gnome-web and java-gnome-site
> directories in the cvs repository??
I could remove these if anyone doesn't mind.
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Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: java autoconf macros

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:58:14PM +0100, Luca De Rugeriis wrote:
> > I have just discovered that gcj is now a requirement to build java-gnome.
> > I do not believe this is a good thing.  This requirement and the requirement
> > of autoconf 2.58 will mean that many developers will not be able to download
> > and build the bindings without the headache of first building the tools.
> > I think gcj build should be optional.  If the developer does use this
> > option then we could build the native versions of the jar files as well.
> > What do you think?
> - gcj optional, it should build native jars too
I will try to make the changes to allow this.

> - use autoconf < 2.58
I'm not sure how to do this. People were reporting problems with
autoconf 2.57 -- I'm not sure what they were, or what caused them. My
suspicion is that our aclocal.m4 has problems in it - unfortunately I
don't know how to change it. 
This is not such a big problem as it looks. build/maketarballs.sh runs
autoconf in the right directories as it builds the tarballs - so tarball
users won't need autoconf at all.

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] vte jni source

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

I guess I forgot to move them. They should be moved to the vte/src/jni
directory. 

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:16:15PM -0500, Jeffrey Morgan wrote:
> The source for the vte Terminal JNI file is under the gnome package instead
> of the vte package.  I didn't move the file since I am still a little unsure
> of the
> new build process.  The java file is in the correct location.
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Nicolas M. <ni...@be...>]

Hello Alberto,
I have already started translating the tutorial with the sgml file. I'll
wait for the xml files and once everything is complete (could take a whil=
e
given the size of the tutorial), I'll mail it to you

Greetz,
Nico

Alberto Gimeno said:
> Hello.
>
>> > Do we have somebody who volunteered to keep the website maintained?
> or
>> > do we need new help?
>> I know of Alberto Gimeno: recently I've sended a bunch of screenshots
> to
>> him who's claiming to be the site maintainer. (I think he's the
>> translator for spanish too.)
>> Nico, you can send every question you may have to the list, since
>> Alberto will receive them ;)
>
> Yes, I am. I have translated the web into Spanish and I am the web
> desinger. I also update the information about roadmap, news,
> screenshots,... but I think this work should be done by other person
> because I don't know about details of gnome bindings release, new
> schedule, stable vs development releases.
>
> Well. I create the html from xml files. Each xml file contains one
> section of the website translated into various languages. Throught an
> ant script and XSLT I transform these xml files into html files.
> Nicolas, I am going to send you the xml source files. Send me the
> translated files and I will update the website. Maybe this files should
> be in the cvs repository. Now, In the cvs repository is the old version
> of the web, could somebody delete the java-gnome-web and java-gnome-sit=
e
> directories in the cvs repository??
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Alberto G. <alb...@te...>]

Hello.

> > Do we have somebody who volunteered to keep the website maintained?
or
> > do we need new help?
> I know of Alberto Gimeno: recently I've sended a bunch of screenshots
to
> him who's claiming to be the site maintainer. (I think he's the
> translator for spanish too.)
> Nico, you can send every question you may have to the list, since
> Alberto will receive them ;)

Yes, I am. I have translated the web into Spanish and I am the web
desinger. I also update the information about roadmap, news,
screenshots,... but I think this work should be done by other person
because I don't know about details of gnome bindings release, new
schedule, stable vs development releases.

Well. I create the html from xml files. Each xml file contains one
section of the website translated into various languages. Throught an
ant script and XSLT I transform these xml files into html files.
Nicolas, I am going to send you the xml source files. Send me the
translated files and I will update the website. Maybe this files should
be in the cvs repository. Now, In the cvs repository is the old version
of the web, could somebody delete the java-gnome-web and java-gnome-site
directories in the cvs repository??

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: java autoconf macros

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 22:11, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto:
> > > Anyway, I think a lot of configury changes are needed to 
> > cleanly support
> > > gcj-only builds, and it's probably not a priority right 
> > now, with the
> > > gnome-bindings deadline approaching.  Configury changes can be made
> > > without affecting binary or source compatibility. :)
> > Good point. I think making everyone build the gcj builds will 
> > make them
> > more likely to try them out too, which has got to be a good thing. 
> 
> I have just discovered that gcj is now a requirement to build java-gnome.
> I do not believe this is a good thing.  This requirement and the requirement
> of autoconf 2.58 will mean that many developers will not be able to download
> and build the bindings without the headache of first building the tools.
> I think gcj build should be optional.  If the developer does use this
> option then we could build the native versions of the jar files as well.
> What do you think?
- gcj optional, it should build native jars too
- use autoconf < 2.58
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] vte jni source

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 20:16, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto:
> The source for the vte Terminal JNI file is under the gnome package instead
> of the vte package.  I didn't move the file since I am still a little unsure
> of the
> new build process.  The java file is in the correct location.
Mark, maybe it solves the vte problem?

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] autoconf 2.58

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 20:15, Jeffrey Morgan ha scritto:
> What is it about the build that requires autoconf 2.58?  If possible I
> think we should make a change to allow older versions of autoconf.
> This will be a problem on most distros.
I agree, I've had to upgrade autoconf, it isn't even in last Fedora
release, also if an older autoconf is used, it prints out only a strange
message. 
However I think Mark's primary goal is having Java-Gnome included in the
official list in time, then we should focus on having these major issue
resolved asap.
There is also a todo list for the build system:

There are a few items on the build TODO though:
 - make gcj native builds optional -- at the moment, they are always
   built.
 - improve makefiles for the documentation packages
 - improve location detection of gtk jar file (for e.g. gnome tarball)
 - TEST
 - use autoconf < 2.58 (I'll suggest)

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] suggestion on java-gnome eclipse plugin

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 19:19, Fabrizio Lippolis ha scritto:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a doubt about java-gnome eclipse plugin. How to let the plugin
> use my own glade generated file? I have tried to use a glade file that I
> have already used in a project which I started to develop in C and
> simply changing the name of it in the automatically generated MainWindow
> class of course isn't enough, can the plugin regenerate the skeleton of
> the callbacks? I would be very thankful if anybody could provide me a
> little hint on how a typical development use case should be.
Hi,
I don't think this can be done from within the eclipse plugin. There is
an example on using a glade file in the cromagnon example app. The idea
is to cast a widget retrived from libglade to the correct type then you
have to manually add listener to each widget you want to catch event
from.
Let me know if this helps.

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Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

RE: [Java-gnome-developer] Re: java autoconf macros

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

> > Anyway, I think a lot of configury changes are needed to 
> cleanly support
> > gcj-only builds, and it's probably not a priority right 
> now, with the
> > gnome-bindings deadline approaching.  Configury changes can be made
> > without affecting binary or source compatibility. :)
> Good point. I think making everyone build the gcj builds will 
> make them
> more likely to try them out too, which has got to be a good thing. 

I have just discovered that gcj is now a requirement to build java-gnome.
I do not believe this is a good thing.  This requirement and the requirement
of autoconf 2.58 will mean that many developers will not be able to download
and build the bindings without the headache of first building the tools.
I think gcj build should be optional.  If the developer does use this
option then we could build the native versions of the jar files as well.
What do you think?

-Jeff

[Java-gnome-developer] vte jni source

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

The source for the vte Terminal JNI file is under the gnome package instead
of the vte package.  I didn't move the file since I am still a little unsure
of the
new build process.  The java file is in the correct location.

-Jeff

[Java-gnome-developer] autoconf 2.58

[Jeffrey M. <Jef...@Br...>]

What is it about the build that requires autoconf 2.58?  If possible I
think we should make a change to allow older versions of autoconf.
This will be a problem on most distros.

-Jeff

[Java-gnome-developer] suggestion on java-gnome eclipse plugin

[Fabrizio L. <f.l...@em...>]

Hello,

I have a doubt about java-gnome eclipse plugin. How to let the plugin
use my own glade generated file? I have tried to use a glade file that I
have already used in a project which I started to develop in C and
simply changing the name of it in the automatically generated MainWindow
class of course isn't enough, can the plugin regenerate the skeleton of
the callbacks? I would be very thankful if anybody could provide me a
little hint on how a typical development use case should be.

Fabrizio

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Nicolas M. <ni...@be...>]

Ok I'll check out the module when I'm home and have a look at it. I've
used cvs a few times before, I'll manage it, thanks. (and if not you'll
hear from me :))

Mark Howard said:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:51:26PM +0100, Nicolas Mommaerts wrote:
>> What do you mean?
>>
>> For clarity I'll state the things I understood so far :)
>> translate FAQ.sgml and GNOME-tutorial.sgml, don't worry about the html
>> it
>> is generated from the sgml's. This would take care of the FAQ and the
>> tutorial with the Java examples that can be accessed from the website.
> That would be excellent. There's also a libglade tutorial being written
> as we speak
>
>> Things I don't know so far:
>> how to translate the website itself? start from the html or are there
>> also
>> sgml documents from which the website itself is generated?
> Do you know about cvs? If so, please checkout the java-gnome-web module
> - this contains the html. It is html, but not the html that you see whe=
n
> you go to the website.
>
> If you don't know cvs and don't want to learn it, please say so and I'l=
l
> put the files that need translating into a tarball for you.
>
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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java gnome vs. pkg-config

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 15:59, Dalibor Topic ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> 
> due to Mark Wielaard calling out for people to test java-gnome with 
> their VMs, I've decided to try out java-gnome from CVS with kaffe from 
> CVS. Unfortunately, I didn't get very far, but I managed to spot some 
> problems ;)
> 
> 1) The README file refers the user to an INSTALL file. There is no 
> INSTALL file in the java-gnome CVS top level directory. But there is one 
> in common/INSTALL. I could submit a patch, if you need one ;)
> 
> 2) There is no configure script, and it doesn't seem to be documented 
> how to generate it. I've came up with the grand idea of running
> genConfigure.in, genMakefile.in and autoreconf, but that should be 
> documented in the INSTALL file ;) Again, I could submit a patch, if 
> necessary.
> 
> 3) Finally, my configure run breaks due to
> 
> bash-2.05a$ ./configure --with-kaffe 
> --with-kaffe-prefix=/tmp/topic/current-jit3/
> checking for gcc... gcc
> checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
> checking whether the C compiler works... yes
> checking whether we are cross compiling... no
> checking for suffix of executables...
> checking for suffix of object files... o
> checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
> checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> Add /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin to path and check again.
> checking for kaffe... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/kaffe
> checking for Kaffe - Java Version >= 1.1... yes
> checking for javadoc... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/javadoc
> checking for javac... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/javac
> checking for kaffe... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/kaffe
> checking for jar... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/jar
> checking for main in -libs... no
> checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the 
> pkg-config search path.
> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
> 
> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2) not met; 
> consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
> libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
> 
> I have no idea what `gtk+-2.0.pc' is or where I can find it. Any 
> pointers or ideas where to search for the file?
On some distributions it can be found in the gtk2-devel package. The
file should be located in $LIBDIR/pkgconfig. Mine looks like:
$ cat /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc 
prefix=/usr
exec_prefix=/usr
libdir=/usr/lib
includedir=/usr/include
target=x11

gtk_binary_version=2.2.0
gtk_host=i386-redhat-linux-gnu

Name: GTK+
Description: GIMP Tool Kit (${target} target)
Version: 2.2.1
Requires: gdk-${target}-2.0 atk
Libs: -L${libdir} -lgtk-${target}-2.0 
Cflags: -I${includedir}/gtk-2.0 

It contains compiler flags and other needed things.

> 
> 4) The FAQ says that you're looking for someone who's been using kaffe 
> to compile things to help out. Well, here I am ;)
Great, I'm managing to compile j-g with free tools only, so I could
count on your help ;)

> 
> I've discussed the build failures Mark had with him on IRC, and I think 
> currently, the problem when using kaffe's java compiler is that it 
> doesn't know about the -sourcepath option. A way to fix that would be to 
> avoid using -sourcepath altogether, and simply cd into the directory. 
> Another way would be to (LN_S) the source files into a build dir, and 
> compile from there.
Mark, it seems that using the CLASSPATH variable does the job.

> All that being said, I look forward to run java-gnome apps on kaffe, 
> since I think gnome & java would mix well. All the best wishes for 
> getting into the official GNOME binding set.
Thanks :)

-- 
Luca De Rugeriis <pie...@li...>

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Install file

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:16:13PM +0100, Luca De Rugeriis wrote:
> So, which is the right command to generate configure actually?
>  build/maketarballs? I've wrote down a very simple autogen.sh script
> which runs, in turn, ./genConf, ./genMake, autoconf and then complains
> if an auttoconf version < 2.58 is found. Could it be of use or you are
> creating the make tarballs script to include something like this?

I think documenting ./genConf.. && ./genM.. && autoconf should be
sufficient for now.

build/maketarballs.sh does do this automatically so that tarballs have
configure scripts in them.

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] java gnome vs. pkg-config

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:59:30PM +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote:
> due to Mark Wielaard calling out for people to test java-gnome with 
> their VMs, I've decided to try out java-gnome from CVS with kaffe from 
> CVS.
Excellent, thanks.

Please note that I have moved most of the directories in cvs in the last
few days to comply with gnome bindings release rules. I've also had to
rewrite much of the configure and makefile system. Since we create
multiple tarballs, the configure and makefiles are now generated using
the ./gen* scripts, copying common sections from the common directory.


> 1) The README file refers the user to an INSTALL file. There is no 
> INSTALL file in the java-gnome CVS top level directory. But there is one 
> in common/INSTALL. I could submit a patch, if you need one ;)
The tarball building tool will copy the documents to the toplevel
directory for each tarball

I did create a new readme documenting the changes. Unfortunately it's
been overwritten by the old one. Thank's for spotting that. I will
create a README.cvs file explaining a few of these new things.

> 2) There is no configure script, and it doesn't seem to be documented 
> how to generate it. I've came up with the grand idea of running
> genConfigure.in, genMakefile.in and autoreconf, but that should be 
> documented in the INSTALL file ;) Again, I could submit a patch, if 
> necessary.
./genConfigure.in
./genMakefile.in
autoconf
same problem as above

> 3) Finally, my configure run breaks due to
> 
> bash-2.05a$ ./configure --with-kaffe 
> --with-kaffe-prefix=/tmp/topic/current-jit3/
> I have no idea what `gtk+-2.0.pc' is or where I can find it. Any 
> pointers or ideas where to search for the file?

You need to have gtk development libraries installed. This is an package
named something like libgtk2.0-dev

> 4) The FAQ says that you're looking for someone who's been using kaffe 
> to compile things to help out. Well, here I am ;)
> 
> I've discussed the build failures Mark had with him on IRC, and I think 
> currently, the problem when using kaffe's java compiler is that it 
> doesn't know about the -sourcepath option. A way to fix that would be to 
> avoid using -sourcepath altogether, and simply cd into the directory. 
> Another way would be to (LN_S) the source files into a build dir, and 
> compile from there.
I think I fixed that in cvs earlier today - by using the CLASSPATH
environment variable, although this has not been verified with kaffe
yet. We cannot simply cd to the directory since there are multiple
directories

> All that being said, I look forward to run java-gnome apps on kaffe, 
> since I think gnome & java would mix well. All the best wishes for 
> getting into the official GNOME binding set.

That's excellent news. The more JVMs the better. I did try with kaffe
once before (with my bugwatcher program, debian package debbuggtk), but
jni support wasn't good enough. 

thanks

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Install file

[Luca De R. <pie...@li...>]

Il mar, 2003-12-16 alle 16:05, Mark Howard ha scritto:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:11:53PM +0100, Alex Moreno wrote:
> > I´ve seen the cvs tarball and it seems that the INSTALL file is
> > missing.
> 
> It's been moved to the 'common' directory. The build/maketarballs.sh
> file will copy it to each tarball when it creates them. 
So, which is the right command to generate configure actually?
 build/maketarballs? I've wrote down a very simple autogen.sh script
which runs, in turn, ./genConf, ./genMake, autoconf and then complains
if an auttoconf version < 2.58 is found. Could it be of use or you are
creating the make tarballs script to include something like this?

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] volunteering to translate documents]

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:51:26PM +0100, Nicolas Mommaerts wrote:
> What do you mean?
> 
> For clarity I'll state the things I understood so far :)
> translate FAQ.sgml and GNOME-tutorial.sgml, don't worry about the html it 
> is generated from the sgml's. This would take care of the FAQ and the
> tutorial with the Java examples that can be accessed from the website.
That would be excellent. There's also a libglade tutorial being written
as we speak 

> Things I don't know so far:
> how to translate the website itself? start from the html or are there also
> sgml documents from which the website itself is generated?
Do you know about cvs? If so, please checkout the java-gnome-web module
- this contains the html. It is html, but not the html that you see when
you go to the website.

If you don't know cvs and don't want to learn it, please say so and I'll
put the files that need translating into a tarball for you.

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Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Install file

[Mark H. <mh...@ca...>]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:11:53PM +0100, Alex Moreno wrote:
> I´ve seen the cvs tarball and it seems that the INSTALL file is
> missing.

It's been moved to the 'common' directory. The build/maketarballs.sh
file will copy it to each tarball when it creates them. 

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[Java-gnome-developer] java gnome vs. pkg-config

[Dalibor T. <ro...@ka...>]

Hi all,

due to Mark Wielaard calling out for people to test java-gnome with 
their VMs, I've decided to try out java-gnome from CVS with kaffe from 
CVS. Unfortunately, I didn't get very far, but I managed to spot some 
problems ;)

1) The README file refers the user to an INSTALL file. There is no 
INSTALL file in the java-gnome CVS top level directory. But there is one 
in common/INSTALL. I could submit a patch, if you need one ;)

2) There is no configure script, and it doesn't seem to be documented 
how to generate it. I've came up with the grand idea of running
genConfigure.in, genMakefile.in and autoreconf, but that should be 
documented in the INSTALL file ;) Again, I could submit a patch, if 
necessary.

3) Finally, my configure run breaks due to

bash-2.05a$ ./configure --with-kaffe 
--with-kaffe-prefix=/tmp/topic/current-jit3/
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
Add /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin to path and check again.
checking for kaffe... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/kaffe
checking for Kaffe - Java Version >= 1.1... yes
checking for javadoc... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/javadoc
checking for javac... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/javac
checking for kaffe... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/kaffe
checking for jar... /tmp/topic/current-jit3//bin/jar
checking for main in -libs... no
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the 
pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'gtk+-2.0' found

configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.2) not met; 
consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your 
libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.

I have no idea what `gtk+-2.0.pc' is or where I can find it. Any 
pointers or ideas where to search for the file?

4) The FAQ says that you're looking for someone who's been using kaffe 
to compile things to help out. Well, here I am ;)

I've discussed the build failures Mark had with him on IRC, and I think 
currently, the problem when using kaffe's java compiler is that it 
doesn't know about the -sourcepath option. A way to fix that would be to 
avoid using -sourcepath altogether, and simply cd into the directory. 
Another way would be to (LN_S) the source files into a build dir, and 
compile from there.

All that being said, I look forward to run java-gnome apps on kaffe, 
since I think gnome & java would mix well. All the best wishes for 
getting into the official GNOME binding set.

cheers,
dalibor topic