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[ISCS-devel] Today's call canceled

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  Mike is unable to make the call tonight.  I could still do
it so please let me know if anyone else is planning on attending.
Otherwise, we'll simply cancel until next week.  Talk to you then - John
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[ISCS-devel] ISCS call schedule change

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  I've had a change of schedule so, alas, we need to change
our call date.  My apologies but we have a little while to go before the
calls can happen without me ;)

We will not have a call tonight.  The calls are now moved to Tuesday
evenings at 7:00 PM EST / midnight UTC.  Our next call will be February
5 at 19:00 EST / February 6 at midnight UTC.  Take care - John
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[ISCS-devel] Training calls

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  Last night's training call has been posted to
http://iscs.opensourcedevel.com/develtraining.html

We do not have a call next week.  Our next call will be Thursday,
January 31 at 7:00 PM EST / midnight UTC.  Take care - John
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jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
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[ISCS-devel] Training call

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  This is a reminder that our next training call is tomorrow
(probably today by the time you read this) at 7:00 PM EST / midnight UTC
on Skype.  The recording of the last call has been posted on
http://iscs.opensourcedevel.com/develtraining.html

Talk to you then - John
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jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
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[ISCS-devel] This weeks call

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  Time to get back on a regular schedule of calls.  We are
currently scheduled for this Thursday at 7:00 EST / midnight UTC.  Does
this work well for everyone for future calls? If not, please suggest
some alternatives.

Despite my neglect of the development team, the project continues to
move forward quickly.  The basic Resource delete functionality is
finished and the edit functionality is almost there.  The edit code in
particular has been very challenging and complex so I'm delighted it is
near completion.

See you on Skype this Thursday - John
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Financially sustainable open source development
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[ISCS-devel] Ahmed sent you a friend request on Yaari...

[Ahmed <ahm...@ho...>]

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Re: [ISCS-devel] Today's call

[Michael A. <mic...@gm...>]

Happy Holidays to everyone!!!

Mike

On 12/20/07, John A. Sullivan III <jsu...@op...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 16:15 -0500, Mike Alexeev wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > I hate to say it but it looks like I won't be able to join today's call. We
> > are having an emergency migration today at work and it will take awhile.
> > Please go ahead without me. I will join the next call.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> Oops! I just sent out the reminder! Quite understandable.  I hate to do
> it but we should probably not have another call until Thursday, January
> 10.  I'm actually booked every night until then (and, no, I'm not
> partying!).  I hate to wait that long.  There's finally a ton of new
> code going into ISCS its first generally usable release in just a few
> weeks.
>
> So let's all have a great holiday season.  A blessed Christmas to those
> of you who celebrate it.  Please don't hesitate to contact me in the
> interim especially if you have a solution to the database problem I
> posted yesterday.  That needs to go into the new release.  Thanks, all -
> John
> --
> John A. Sullivan III
> Open Source Development Corporation
> +1 207-985-7880
> jsu...@op...
>
> Financially sustainable open source development
> http://www.opensourcedevel.com
>
>
>

Re: [ISCS-devel] Today's call

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 16:15 -0500, Mike Alexeev wrote:
> John,
> 
> I hate to say it but it looks like I won't be able to join today's call. We 
> are having an emergency migration today at work and it will take awhile. 
> Please go ahead without me. I will join the next call.
> 
> Mike 
> 
Oops! I just sent out the reminder! Quite understandable.  I hate to do
it but we should probably not have another call until Thursday, January
10.  I'm actually booked every night until then (and, no, I'm not
partying!).  I hate to wait that long.  There's finally a ton of new
code going into ISCS its first generally usable release in just a few
weeks.

So let's all have a great holiday season.  A blessed Christmas to those
of you who celebrate it.  Please don't hesitate to contact me in the
interim especially if you have a solution to the database problem I
posted yesterday.  That needs to go into the new release.  Thanks, all -
John
-- 
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Open Source Development Corporation
+1 207-985-7880
jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
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[ISCS-devel] Call tonight

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  Just a quick reminder that we have a call tonight.  I'll
leave my Skype up today in case anyone wants to call me ahead of time to
test.  Our last call was torpedoed because my Skype was broken and I
have not used it since fixing it.  Talk to you at 7:00 PM EST / midnight
UTC - John
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John A. Sullivan III
Open Source Development Corporation
+1 207-985-7880
jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
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[ISCS-devel] Today's call

[Mike A. <mic...@gm...>]

John,

I hate to say it but it looks like I won't be able to join today's call. We 
are having an emergency migration today at work and it will take awhile. 
Please go ahead without me. I will join the next call.

Mike 

Re: [ISCS-devel] Database bug

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Come to think of it, there may be deployments on 3.23 so we need to find
a way to do this without subqueries.  The only currently supported
database is MySQL although that is not the long term plan.  Is there
even an MySQL specific way to do it? Can values be saved to some
variable populated via a select statement and then the variable used in
an update statement? Thanks - John

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 18:07 -0500, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> Alas, mysql 4.x returns an error:
> 
> mysql> update all_res_ipranges set containsbestmatch=0 where actualrange
> in (select actualrange from all_res_ipranges left join best_match_res_ip
> on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh where containsbestmatch=1
> and superlow is null);
> ERROR 1064 (00000): You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'select
> actualrange from all_res_ipranges left join best_match_res_ip on
> lowbinar' at line 1
> 
> Do you or anyone happen to know what the proper subclause syntax is for
> MySQL < 5.x? Thanks - John
> 
> On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 18:33 -0300, Daniel Medeiros wrote:
> > At first, I forgot confirming that you were right about the problem.
> > In an UPDATE statement you cannot reference more than one table.
> > 
> > I'm at work now and the CVS to outside is blocked, but if you don't
> > mind I'd to guess your answer. 
> > 
> > I may confess I am not so used to SQL:2003 (I have worked more with
> > SQL99), and I am not sure if it will work in every database you have,
> > you'll need to test them. But, even without seeing your database, just
> > by your previous comments and commands, I'd guess these commands: 
> > 
> > update accessors_ip set containsbestmatch=0 
> > where actualrange in ( select actualrange from accessors_ip left join
> > best_match_acc_ip on lowbinary=superlow and
> >          highbinary=superhigh where
> >          containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null); 
> > 
> > and 
> > 
> > update all_res_ipranges set containsbestmatch=0 
> > where actualrange in ( select actualrange from all_res_ipranges left
> > join best_match_res_ip on lowbinary=superlow and
> >    
> >  highbinary=superhigh where 
> >          containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null);
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 19, 2007 5:24 PM, John A. Sullivan III
> > <jsu...@op...> wrote:
> >         That would be great, Daniel.  The ERDs and table definitions
> >         are in the
> >         CVS under devel-docs/Database.
> >         
> >         So how is the world going for you? Planning anything special
> >         for
> >         Christmas? Take care - John
> >         
> >         
> >         On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 15:32 -0300, Daniel Medeiros wrote:
> >         > Hey, John,
> >         >
> >         > I guess I can help you, even being out of the project. Could
> >         you send
> >         > me the database schema? I'll take a look and answer you
> >         ASAP. 
> >         >
> >         > - Daniel
> >         >
> >         > On Dec 19, 2007 3:08 PM, John A. Sullivan III <
> >         > jsu...@op...> wrote:
> >         >         Hello, all.  While writing the edit Resource code we
> >         need for 
> >         >         a current
> >         >         project, I came across a bug in the code which may
> >         have made
> >         >         some
> >         >         erroneous database entries however I do not have the
> >         SQL
> >         >         knowledge to 
> >         >         know how to write an SQL statement to find and fix
> >         the
> >         >         erroneous
> >         >         entries.  Can someone suggest how we can write a
> >         patch for the
> >         >         next
> >         >         release to repair the database? 
> >         >
> >         >         The problem is that we erroneously returned a value
> >         of true
> >         >         for
> >         >         containsbestmatch when it should have been false.
> >          To find the
> >         >         errant
> >         >         rows in the all_res_ipranges table (for Resources)
> >         or the 
> >         >         accessors_ip
> >         >         table (for Accessors) we can do:
> >         >
> >         >         select actualrange, containsbestmatch from
> >         all_res_ipranges
> >         >         left join
> >         >         best_match_res_ip on lowbinary=superlow and 
> >         >         highbinary=superhigh where
> >         >         containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null;
> >         >
> >         >         and
> >         >
> >         >         select actualrange, containsbestmatch from
> >         accessors_ip left
> >         >         join 
> >         >         best_match_acc_ip on lowbinary=superlow and
> >         >         highbinary=superhigh where
> >         >         containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null;
> >         >
> >         >         But how do we find the rows and then fix them in a
> >         single SQL 
> >         >         statement?
> >         >         Something like:
> >         >
> >         >         update accessors_ip set containsbestmatch=0 left
> >         join
> >         >         best_match_acc_ip
> >         >         on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh
> >         where 
> >         >         containsbestmatch=1
> >         >         and superlow is null;
> >         >
> >         >         does not work since I think one can have only one
> >         table in an
> >         >         update
> >         >         statement.  I'd like to fix this ASAP so any help
> >         would be 
> >         >         greatly
> >         >         appreciated.  Thanks - John
> >         >         --
> <snip>
> > 
-- 
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Re: [ISCS-devel] Database bug

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Alas, mysql 4.x returns an error:

mysql> update all_res_ipranges set containsbestmatch=0 where actualrange
in (select actualrange from all_res_ipranges left join best_match_res_ip
on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh where containsbestmatch=1
and superlow is null);
ERROR 1064 (00000): You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'select
actualrange from all_res_ipranges left join best_match_res_ip on
lowbinar' at line 1

Do you or anyone happen to know what the proper subclause syntax is for
MySQL < 5.x? Thanks - John

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 18:33 -0300, Daniel Medeiros wrote:
> At first, I forgot confirming that you were right about the problem.
> In an UPDATE statement you cannot reference more than one table.
> 
> I'm at work now and the CVS to outside is blocked, but if you don't
> mind I'd to guess your answer. 
> 
> I may confess I am not so used to SQL:2003 (I have worked more with
> SQL99), and I am not sure if it will work in every database you have,
> you'll need to test them. But, even without seeing your database, just
> by your previous comments and commands, I'd guess these commands: 
> 
> update accessors_ip set containsbestmatch=0 
> where actualrange in ( select actualrange from accessors_ip left join
> best_match_acc_ip on lowbinary=superlow and
>          highbinary=superhigh where
>          containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null); 
> 
> and 
> 
> update all_res_ipranges set containsbestmatch=0 
> where actualrange in ( select actualrange from all_res_ipranges left
> join best_match_res_ip on lowbinary=superlow and
>    
>  highbinary=superhigh where 
>          containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null);
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2007 5:24 PM, John A. Sullivan III
> <jsu...@op...> wrote:
>         That would be great, Daniel.  The ERDs and table definitions
>         are in the
>         CVS under devel-docs/Database.
>         
>         So how is the world going for you? Planning anything special
>         for
>         Christmas? Take care - John
>         
>         
>         On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 15:32 -0300, Daniel Medeiros wrote:
>         > Hey, John,
>         >
>         > I guess I can help you, even being out of the project. Could
>         you send
>         > me the database schema? I'll take a look and answer you
>         ASAP. 
>         >
>         > - Daniel
>         >
>         > On Dec 19, 2007 3:08 PM, John A. Sullivan III <
>         > jsu...@op...> wrote:
>         >         Hello, all.  While writing the edit Resource code we
>         need for 
>         >         a current
>         >         project, I came across a bug in the code which may
>         have made
>         >         some
>         >         erroneous database entries however I do not have the
>         SQL
>         >         knowledge to 
>         >         know how to write an SQL statement to find and fix
>         the
>         >         erroneous
>         >         entries.  Can someone suggest how we can write a
>         patch for the
>         >         next
>         >         release to repair the database? 
>         >
>         >         The problem is that we erroneously returned a value
>         of true
>         >         for
>         >         containsbestmatch when it should have been false.
>          To find the
>         >         errant
>         >         rows in the all_res_ipranges table (for Resources)
>         or the 
>         >         accessors_ip
>         >         table (for Accessors) we can do:
>         >
>         >         select actualrange, containsbestmatch from
>         all_res_ipranges
>         >         left join
>         >         best_match_res_ip on lowbinary=superlow and 
>         >         highbinary=superhigh where
>         >         containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null;
>         >
>         >         and
>         >
>         >         select actualrange, containsbestmatch from
>         accessors_ip left
>         >         join 
>         >         best_match_acc_ip on lowbinary=superlow and
>         >         highbinary=superhigh where
>         >         containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null;
>         >
>         >         But how do we find the rows and then fix them in a
>         single SQL 
>         >         statement?
>         >         Something like:
>         >
>         >         update accessors_ip set containsbestmatch=0 left
>         join
>         >         best_match_acc_ip
>         >         on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh
>         where 
>         >         containsbestmatch=1
>         >         and superlow is null;
>         >
>         >         does not work since I think one can have only one
>         table in an
>         >         update
>         >         statement.  I'd like to fix this ASAP so any help
>         would be 
>         >         greatly
>         >         appreciated.  Thanks - John
>         >         --
<snip>
> 
-- 
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Open Source Development Corporation
+1 207-985-7880
jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
http://www.opensourcedevel.com

[ISCS-devel] Database bug

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  While writing the edit Resource code we need for a current
project, I came across a bug in the code which may have made some
erroneous database entries however I do not have the SQL knowledge to
know how to write an SQL statement to find and fix the erroneous
entries.  Can someone suggest how we can write a patch for the next
release to repair the database?

The problem is that we erroneously returned a value of true for
containsbestmatch when it should have been false.  To find the errant
rows in the all_res_ipranges table (for Resources) or the accessors_ip
table (for Accessors) we can do:

select actualrange, containsbestmatch from all_res_ipranges left join
best_match_res_ip on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh where
containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null;

and

select actualrange, containsbestmatch from accessors_ip left join
best_match_acc_ip on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh where
containsbestmatch=1 and superlow is null;

But how do we find the rows and then fix them in a single SQL statement?
Something like:

update accessors_ip set containsbestmatch=0 left join best_match_acc_ip
on lowbinary=superlow and highbinary=superhigh where containsbestmatch=1
and superlow is null;

does not work since I think one can have only one table in an update
statement.  I'd like to fix this ASAP so any help would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks - John
-- 
John A. Sullivan III
Open Source Development Corporation
+1 207-985-7880
jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
http://www.opensourcedevel.com

Re: [ISCS-devel] Call change

[Mike A. <mic...@gm...>]

Thursday is fine

mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John A. Sullivan III" <jsu...@op...>
To: "Mike Alexeev" <mic...@gm...>
Cc: "ISCS Developers" <isc...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [ISCS-devel] Call change


> On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:37 -0500, Mike Alexeev wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>>
>>
>> > Argh! My schedule has shifted and I will not be able to make the call 
>> > at
>> > 7:00 EST tonight.  Let's schedule the next call for Tuesday, Dec. 18 at
>> > 7:00 PM EST.  Please let me know if that's a problem.  Thanks - John
>> > -- 
>>
>> Tuesday won't work for me. What about Wednesday?
>>
>> ---
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>>
> Hmm . . .Wednesday doesn't work for me.  How about Thursday, Dec 20? -
> John
> -- 
> John A. Sullivan III
> Open Source Development Corporation
> +1 207-985-7880
> jsu...@op...
>
> Financially sustainable open source development
> http://www.opensourcedevel.com
>
> 

Re: [ISCS-devel] Call change

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

OK everyone, so Thursday, December 20, 2007 it is at 7:00 PM EST /
midnight UTC.  Please remember to read the Indirect Conflict Checks
documentation beforehand.  See you on Skype - John

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 11:50 -0500, Mike Alexeev wrote:
> Thursday is fine
> 
> mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John A. Sullivan III" <jsu...@op...>
> To: "Mike Alexeev" <mic...@gm...>
> Cc: "ISCS Developers" <isc...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [ISCS-devel] Call change
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:37 -0500, Mike Alexeev wrote:
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Argh! My schedule has shifted and I will not be able to make the call 
> >> > at
> >> > 7:00 EST tonight.  Let's schedule the next call for Tuesday, Dec. 18 at
> >> > 7:00 PM EST.  Please let me know if that's a problem.  Thanks - John
> >> > -- 
> >>
> >> Tuesday won't work for me. What about Wednesday?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Thanks,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> > Hmm . . .Wednesday doesn't work for me.  How about Thursday, Dec 20? -
> > John
> > -- 
> > John A. Sullivan III
> > Open Source Development Corporation
> > +1 207-985-7880
> > jsu...@op...
> >
> > Financially sustainable open source development
> > http://www.opensourcedevel.com
> >
> > 
> 
-- 
John A. Sullivan III
Open Source Development Corporation
+1 207-985-7880
jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
http://www.opensourcedevel.com

Re: [ISCS-devel] Call change

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:37 -0500, Mike Alexeev wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> 
> 
> > Argh! My schedule has shifted and I will not be able to make the call at
> > 7:00 EST tonight.  Let's schedule the next call for Tuesday, Dec. 18 at
> > 7:00 PM EST.  Please let me know if that's a problem.  Thanks - John
> > -- 
> 
> Tuesday won't work for me. What about Wednesday?
> 
> ---
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> 
Hmm . . .Wednesday doesn't work for me.  How about Thursday, Dec 20? -
John
-- 
John A. Sullivan III
Open Source Development Corporation
+1 207-985-7880
jsu...@op...

Financially sustainable open source development
http://www.opensourcedevel.com

Re: [ISCS-devel] Call change

[Mike A. <mic...@gm...>]

Hi John,



> Argh! My schedule has shifted and I will not be able to make the call at
> 7:00 EST tonight.  Let's schedule the next call for Tuesday, Dec. 18 at
> 7:00 PM EST.  Please let me know if that's a problem.  Thanks - John
> -- 

Tuesday won't work for me. What about Wednesday?

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Thanks,
Mike

[ISCS-devel] Call change

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Argh! My schedule has shifted and I will not be able to make the call at
7:00 EST tonight.  Let's schedule the next call for Tuesday, Dec. 18 at
7:00 PM EST.  Please let me know if that's a problem.  Thanks - John
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[ISCS-devel] Meeting canceled

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Good evening, all.  Tonight's meeting was canceled due to technical
difficulties.  I upgraded my Ubuntu system from Feisty to Gutsy and it
has been catastrophic -- all kinds of things broke.  I'll try to get it
all fixed in time for next weeks call - same day and time.  Please
finish going through the indirect conflict section of the commit changes
document if you haven't already.  It's quite complicated so we will
probably need to go over it a few times.  Take care - John
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[ISCS-devel] Training call

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  This week's training call will take place as scheduled at
19:00 EST, Thursday, Dec 6.  That will be midnight UTC.  It would be
helpful of you could read the Indirect Edit Conflicts section of the
devel-docs/Functions/CommitChanges/CommitChanges.html file.  It is some
of the more convoluted and difficult to follow logic we have.  It will
probably not make complete sense when you read it and will be difficult
to follow but the only way to understand it is to work patiently through
it.

See you on Skype - John
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[ISCS-devel] ISCS bug available

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  I've posted a very simple bug to the SourceForge bug
tracker under the title "Edit RG comment fails"  Would anyone care to
see if they can fix it while we are waiting for training to begin again
next week.

By the way, there is a very good chance we will need to move the
training call from Thursday, Dec 6 to Tuesday Dec 4.  Does that present
a problem for anyone? Thanks - John
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[ISCS-devel] AJAX contract available

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  A development company in our building is looking for a
contract AJAX developer.  Most of their work is LAMP.  Database
experience would be helpful.  If you are interested in this paid
contract position or know someone who would be, let me know and I'll
pass along the contact details.  Thanks - John
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[ISCS-devel] ISCS training call results

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  We finished the login sequence and began the commit changes
routines.  The call recording is posted on
http://iscs.opensourcedevel.com/develtraining.html

Two important items:

Our next call will not be until Thursday, Dec 6, 2007.  This is to
accommodate both holiday and travel plans.

However, there is some heavy and important reading to prepare for the
next call so you may need that much time to prepare.  Kindly read at
least the Indirect Edit Conflicts section of the
devel-docs/Functions/CommitChanges/CommitChanges.html file.  It is some
of the more convoluted and difficult to follow logic we have.  It will
probably not make complete sense when you read it and will be difficult
to follow but the only way to understand it is to work patiently through
it.

Please feel free to email or Skype with any questions.  Take care - John
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[ISCS-devel] Call today

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  A quick reminder that we have a call at 7:00 EST this
evening, midnight UTC.  Thanks - John
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[ISCS-devel] Latest training call posted

[John A. S. I. <jsu...@op...>]

Hello, all.  We had a pretty thorough training call tonight on the
application startup and login processes.  The call has been posted to
http://iscs.opensourcedevel.com/develtraining.html

The next call is next Wednesday, November 7 at 7:00 PM EST.  That will
be midnight UTC.  Talk to you then - John
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