Re: [IPCop-devel] Test booting on ICH8 motherboard (lots of bugs)

[John E. <jo...@co...>]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:44:07PM +0100, Olaf Westrik wrote:
> IMNSHO calling people, who you hardly know anything about, "disconnected 
> from the community" is not in sync with reality.
> I know Gilles (personally as well as electronically) and he is very much 
>   involved in multipe IPCop Communities, of which you have probably 
> never even heard, but which are much more lively then ipcop-user

OK, lets calm this down before this turns into a flame war. I did not
post that email to the ipcop-user mailing list. A friend that I was
talking to mistakenly sent it to the wrong email address.

I have already emailed a clarification and apology to the ipcop-user
mailing list, so I won't copy that here. Short version is that the
comments was out of context and was just me expressing a little
fustration at the "reinstall for hardware change". It was not about
anything more general.

How could it be? Olaf and Gilles have been very patient and helpful
with my many questions and lack of knowledge about IPCop development.
And they have been very receptive about my patches, even when I had to
post a fix for a stupid mistake just a few hours after posting the
broken patch.

While it may not make any damage disappear I do hope the apology email
will stop others from getting the wrong idea about what I was saying.
I also hope it does not draw any more attention to a silly mistake.


You and Gilles have every right to be angered, and I would probably be
fuming for a few days. I would expect anyone that made continuous
personnal attacks on another member in a mailing list to be
unsubscribed.

I also hope that this will pass and you will take any contributions
from myself on there technical merits. In fact hope that people post
technical criticisms of my work. If there is something wrong it needs
to be fixed.


You are right that I do not know Gilles, and I'm sure that is my
loss. I completely agree that he is much more involved with IPCop than
I could ever be. By my own admission in previous emails I've not
contributed anything in three years, and even then it was mostly
testing, bug fixes, code clean ups and some now obsolete addons.

The constant hard work all the IPCop developers put in gives me
inspiration for my own small work on IPCop.

Thank you.


<order reversed>
>>> I tested IPCop for a dare
>>> It used a CDROM that wasn't there
>>> It wasn't there again today
>>> I hope we find it someday
> 
> 
> I like this one better:
> 
> 
> people come and people go
> sometimes even with a big blow
> 
> one is always there and persistent
> to keep our poor networks resistant
> 
> it is a little man from France
> protecting us against aberrance
> 
> may he stay there for us
> and keep IPCop glorious
> 
> 
> Thanks Gilles, on behalf of the IPCop Community, for all that hard work 
> you put into IPCop year after year.

Rhyming "France" and "aberrance" brought a big grin to my face.
Almost as good as Bob Dylan managing to rhyme "Pope" and "Europe".


ps. I little bit of background on the silly rhyme, it comes from an
old English bit of nonsense about "A man who wasn't there" (a ghost I
think). It was on the news here in the UK when I doing some work on
IPCop. It was just a bit of silliness about my struggles with hardware
detection made up on the spot.

pps. I promise not to post any more bad poetry pastiches.


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