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[Indlinux-group] Fw: Mozilla Carnival Pune - 15 September 2012

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

Please join...

    
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From: Vineel Reddy Pindi <pin...@gm...>
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:08 AM
Subject: Mozilla Carnival Pune - 15 September 2012
 
Hey all,

We will be celebrating the success of Mozilla Summer Code Party event(s) in
the country along with the Software Freedom Day on 15th of September 2012
at SICSR, Pune <http://sicsr.ac.in/>.The event is named 'Mozilla Carnival'
[1].

*Agenda:*
The Mozilla carnival starts at 9.00 AM, the topics include:
-- Mozilla Summer Code Party
-- Software Freedom Day
-- Mozilla projects and Initiatives
-- Hands-on session focused on WebMaking and Localization
-- WoMoz (Women in Open source/ IT)
-- Quiz
-- BOF sessions.
Please visit the website [1] for more details about the event and
registrations.

Come join us! Lets *Meet, Make & Learn *something* *amazing with the web.

Thanks,
Vineel

[1] http://mozillaindia.org/node/664

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[Indlinux-group] India vs Indic Languages on Mobile

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

Hi All,

Our India seems to be moving on mobile [1] but the condition of Indian languages on mobile is really pathetic. As the user technology trend is moving from desktop  towards hand-held devices, the importance of mobile is constantly increasing. But still we are unable to use mobile in Indian languages. Whether we want to type,  read, or do many things in our native language. Some general issues are:

a. Most of the Indic languages are not having good support
b. Lots of locales are not even having basic support
c. Applications/Mobile browsers are fully untranslated


I feel, we should also concentrate in this area and take some action that can generate and show our deep concern towards this cause. Mobile has immense potential and the power which should be available in Indian languages - 100%, not less than that.

[1]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_in_India


regards,
--------------
Rajesh Ranjan
Kramashah

[Indlinux-group] Maithili in official Firefox release

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2012/08/28/maithili-localization/
"We’re happy to announce that we’re adding a new localization to Firefox 15 desktop! Sangeeta Kumari and the Maithili (mai) team have been 
working tirelessly to produce the world’s first ever Maithili version of Firefox for the people of India and Nepal." 
 


regards,
--------------
Rajesh Ranjan
Kramashah

[Indlinux-group] Fwd: [Wikimedia-in-mum] Learning to Learn: Public Talk by Walter Bender at HBCSE, TIFR in Mumbai

[Sudhanwa J. <sud...@gm...>]

Forwarding message from other mailing list. This could be useful for
many interested people.

Regards,
-Sudhanwa



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From: Nagarjuna G <nagarjun at gnowgi.org>
Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Subject: [Wikimedia-in-mum] Learning to Learn: Public Talk by Walter
Bender at HBCSE, TIFR in Mumbai
To: Mumbai List Wikimedia <wik...@li...>




The architect of sugar learning platform is visiting our lab
from 27th-29th.  On 28th he is giving a public lecture at 4pm.  Please
consider this note as my invitation to come down to meet him and listen to
his lecture.  Please also forward this message to your other colleagues
whom we met at HBCSE the other day.

Walter Bender, the founder of Sugar Labs, and an architect of the Sugar
learning platform originally developed for the One Laptop Per Child
(OLPC), now available generally, will talk about the platform and its
adoption. Sugar Learning platform is now used by millions of children
worldwide. He will be speaking on how the Sugar Learning platform has been
designed for "Learning to Learn."

About Walter Bender:
Walter Bender is a technologist and researcher who has made important
contributions in the field of electronic publishing, media, and technology
for learning. Bender is on leave as a Senior Research Scientist at the MIT
Media Lab which he led as executive director between 2000 and 2006. More
recently, Bender served as president of One Laptop per Child  for Software
and Content where he coordinated the development of software and content
including the Sugar interface for the XO-1 Children's Machine computer.

When: Tuesday 28 August 2012, 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM
Where: G-4, NIUS Building,
Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education
Tata Institute of Fundamental Research
V. N. Purav Marg, Mankhurd
Mumbai 400088

To know more about Sugar Labs visit: http://sugarlabs.org
To know more about One Laptop Per Child visit: http://laptop.org
To know more about Walter Bender http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Bender


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[Indlinux-group] The founder of Sugar labs, Walter Bender, will be in India from about 21-29 August

[Sudhanwa J. <sud...@gm...>]

FYI
This could be of interest to many people.

Forwarded from other mailing list.
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The founder of Sugar labs, Walter Bender, will be in India from about
21-29 August (i.e. now) and will speak at HBCSE in Mumbai on 28
August, 4-6 pm, for those interested in furthering the importance of
good quality primary education. It is an open, public, meeting.

Sugar is the platform developed for the xo NetBook under the olpc
program, and is available on most general purpose computers today, and
also on a pen drive for a test drive before installation. It provides
children with a playground to learn, with communication and
collaboration key ingredients.

Interested persons needing to know more about the Mumbai program may
contact me offlist.  His full schedule will be posted shortly, as he
is also visiting Guwahati, Goa and Delhi.


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[Indlinux-group] Localization Quality Assurance - Screenshot Comparison Method

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

Hi,

We have prepared one document describing a popular testing method of Screenshot Comparison to test any application. We have prepared guidelines as well as instructions for GUI testers of language community and organizations. Particularly for open source community this method can be used to engage community in QA activity at large scale.

https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/raw-attachment/wiki/fuel_tqam/Localization_Quality_Assurance_Screenshot_Comparison_Method.pdf

Please provide feedback and suggestions for the ^^ document. 

regards,
--------------
Rajesh Ranjan
Kramashah

[Indlinux-group] Adobe's OpenSource Font family- Source Sans

[Siji S. <sij...@gm...>]

Adobe has released, an open font made available under the standard SIL Open
Font License (OFL).

As per adobe blog, this font covers a range of languages includes Western
and Eastern European languages, Vietnamese, pinyin Romanization of Chinese,
and Navajo.
These fonts are the first available from Adobe to support both the Indian
rupee and Turkish lira currency symbols.

Full source and font files are available for download at sourceforge -

http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcesans.adobe/files/


-- 
Siji Sunny

Re: [Indlinux-group] Fwd: [scribus] Indic Unicode support for Scribus is developed

[Praveen I. <mai...@gm...>]

Awesome news, Thanks everyone who involved in this.

Thanks man

Cheers,
Praveen Illa.

[Indlinux-group] Fwd: [scribus] Indic Unicode support for Scribus is developed

[G K. <ind...@gm...>]

One long pending milestone...

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From: DAKF <dak...@gm...>
Date: Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:03 PM
Subject: [scribus] Indic Unicode support for Scribus is developed
To: Scribus User Mailing List <sc...@li...>


Hi List,

  I am happy to announce that Indic Unicode support for Scribus is
developed and tested successfully.

  The patch for the development version ( as on 15the Aug 2012 ) is
available at http://www.atps.in/download/Scribus_1.5_indic.patch
  The patched source tarball is available at
http://www.atps.in/download/Scribus_1.5_indic.tar.bz2

  It would be nice if you could test it and provide feedback so as to make
it work better.

  The patch for the stable version of Scribus shall be tested and released
shortly.

  This patch is developed by testing and modifying ScribusOIF stream.

  This development is done by a team of Appropriate Technology Promotion
Sociiety (ATPS), Kochi ( http://www.atps.in ) with the support of
Prajasakti (http://www.prajasakti.com), Andra pradesh Democratic Alliance
for Knowledge Freedom (DAKF), Kerala ( www.dakf.in )


Thanks,

- Anil
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Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

http://news.efytimes.com/e1/88662/FUEL-Becomes-An-Integral-Part-Of-eGov-Standard-In-Maharashtra
/rajesh
    

________________________________
 From: Rajesh Ranjan <raj...@ya...>
To: "Indian Linux group ," <ind...@li...>; "fos...@gm..." <fos...@gm...> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi
 

   


________________________________
 From: sankarshan <fos...@gm...>
To: "Indian Linux group ," <ind...@li...> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi
 
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, A S Alam <apr...@gm...> wrote:

> we already released this module for review last year:
> https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/fuel-discuss/2011-June/000172.html

This I wasn't following. Thank you.

> for desktop module, application chosen from Open Source system, but
> all the applications were commonly used in various operating systems,
> so entries taken from those applications share common terminology
> across platform. So mobile module is also created with common
> used/available terms in various devices without considering os.
>
> As fuel goal is to achieve consistency across platform would be better
> to keep terms independent of any
 particular platform.

Once this list is translated across the various languages, how would
it be implemented ?

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
<https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>


Thanks Sankarshan!

Implementation is major challenge...a real challange, and without dealing with this, all efforts are useless. Afaik, no localized mobile terminology list is available online to use freely. And if quality of the terminology is good and accepted by language community, govt organization etc then slowly it can be possible. And I personally feel we cannot achieve this target immediately, it may take time but pushing it through different ways, we can convince them to use it for the benefit of millions of mobile user of India.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Every-poor-family-may-get-a-mobile/articleshow/15395670.cms

Just thinking about
 today news ^^ about "Har Hath Mein Phone" plan. For this type of plan and audience, an effective localization standardization is needed. If govt decides and wants, they can push a standard to make several plan like MNREGA etc successful that can be integrated with the "Har Hath Mein Phone". I think, open, transparent and inclusive process of open source community can be helpful to solve the problem here.  

regards,
Rajesh





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Re: [Indlinux-group] [Lohit-devel-list] Required suggestions for adding Latin characters into Lohit fonts

[Pravin S. <psa...@re...>]

On 08/08/2012 06:12 PM, Shriramana Sharma wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Pravin Satpute <psa...@re...> wrote:
>> I am planning to import shapes from Liberation Sans and modify it as per
>> Lohit Style.
> Hello -- FWIW I support using Liberation Sans -- its compatibility
> with Lohit seems OK -- see attachments.
Yes for attached pdf. Yes it looks good.
>
> But what do you mean by "modify as per Lohit style"? What is there to modify?
Not sure yet but I think Ascent/Descent or Scaling will be required as
per font values.

>
> BTW if you are going to do this, are you going to do A-Za-z only? Or
> anything else too? I prefer you do only plain un-accented 26
> alphabets. If you are going to include any accented (i.e. additional
> European) characters, the list will become too big IMHO.
>
Yes, We only need Basic Latin http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0000.pdf

Regards,
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Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

   


________________________________
 From: sankarshan <fos...@gm...>
To: "Indian Linux group ," <ind...@li...> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi
 
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, A S Alam <apr...@gm...> wrote:

> we already released this module for review last year:
> https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/fuel-discuss/2011-June/000172.html

This I wasn't following. Thank you.

> for desktop module, application chosen from Open Source system, but
> all the applications were commonly used in various operating systems,
> so entries taken from those applications share common terminology
> across platform. So mobile module is also created with common
> used/available terms in various devices without considering os.
>
> As fuel goal is to achieve consistency across platform would be better
> to keep terms independent of any particular platform.

Once this list is translated across the various languages, how would
it be implemented ?

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
<https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>


Thanks Sankarshan!

Implementation is major challenge...a real challange, and without dealing with this, all efforts are useless. Afaik, no localized mobile terminology list is available online to use freely. And if quality of the terminology is good and accepted by language community, govt organization etc then slowly it can be possible. And I personally feel we cannot achieve this target immediately, it may take time but pushing it through different ways, we can convince them to use it for the benefit of millions of mobile user of India.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Every-poor-family-may-get-a-mobile/articleshow/15395670.cms

Just thinking about today news ^^ about "Har Hath Mein Phone" plan. For this type of plan and audience, an effective localization standardization is needed. If govt decides and wants, they can push a standard to make several plan like MNREGA etc successful that can be integrated with the "Har Hath Mein Phone". I think, open, transparent and inclusive process of open source community can be helpful to solve the problem here.  

regards,
Rajesh

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[sankarshan <fos...@gm...>]

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, A S Alam <apr...@gm...> wrote:

> we already released this module for review last year:
> https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/fuel-discuss/2011-June/000172.html

This I wasn't following. Thank you.

> for desktop module, application chosen from Open Source system, but
> all the applications were commonly used in various operating systems,
> so entries taken from those applications share common terminology
> across platform. So mobile module is also created with common
> used/available terms in various devices without considering os.
>
> As fuel goal is to achieve consistency across platform would be better
> to keep terms independent of any particular platform.

Once this list is translated across the various languages, how would
it be implemented ?

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
<https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

Thanks Arjuna!

You are right, implementation of FUEL is a major task and mature language communities have more problem because they already pushed lot of content before FUEL terminology release. We have to do some special efforts as well probably.

 
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--------------
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Kramashah

    

________________________________
 From: Arjuna Rao Chavala <arj...@gm...>
To: "Indian Linux group ," <ind...@li...> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi
 

Hi

Delighted to hear this update. Best wishes to Marathi  FUEL team. A major push will be needed to update the current localization  with  the standardized terminology.

Regards
Arjuna


On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Rajesh Ranjan <raj...@ya...> wrote:

Hi,
>
>
>I am pleased to share with you that Government of Maharashtra has decided to go with FUEL [1] as one of the linguistic standard(s) for e-Governance. On Saturday August 4, 2012; CoE (Center of Excellence) Marathi [2] workshop was organized by C-DAC GIST at Mantralaya, Mumbai, Maharashtra State. Mr. Rajesh Aggarwal, Principal Secretary Department of IT, Govt. of Maharashtra and Mr. Mahesh Kulkarni, Programme Co-ordinator, GIST, C-DAC along with representatives from various IT companies were present at the workshop. Agenda for the workshop is here [3].
>
>Mr. Rajesh Aggarwal discussed in detail about the significance of standardization and importance of all government website(s) to be in native (as primary language) and English (as secondary language). He
 emphasized that linguistic content of public use need to be licensed under Copyleft [4].
>
>Mr Mahesh Kulkarni elaborated on "Standards - importance, issues, challenges & solution". During his presentation, he focused on Unicode, INSCRIPT, Open Font format, searching, sorting, database, issues in Marathi localization, FUEL, CLDR, Script Grammar, etc. Speaking about FUEL, he highlighted FUEL terminology, Style Guide, Assessment Method(s), FUEL project road-map, etc.The FUEL terminology for Marathi is available for download [5] on CoE website.  
>
>Later a team of language experts discussed about FUEL-mobile and FUEL-web terminology (Marathi). Team decided to meet at the earliest and finalize them. Towards the end of the workshop, the outcome of discussion with language experts regarding FUEL mobile and web module(s) was delivered to the audience by Mr. Chandrakant D (GIST, C-DAC) and myself.
>
>The workshop concluded with Mr Rajesh
 Aggarwal and Mr Mahesh Kulkarni providing an action plan to make the Centre of Excellence for Marathi successful.
>
>Centre of Excellence for Marathi is setup to boost e-governance initiative of govt of Maharashtra[6].
>
>I am thankful to Mr Rajesh Aggarwal and Mr Mahesh Kulkarni for supporting FUEL. Thanks a lot to Prof Anil Gore, Chandrakant D, Sandeep Shedmake, Damodar Magdum along with representatives of mahaonline and all the language group presents there to make the language related discussion vibrant. 
>
>[1]. http://www.fuelproject.org ; https://fedorahosted.org/fuel
>[2]. http://coe.maharashtra.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47
>[3]. https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/raw-attachment/wiki/fuel-marathi/coe-workshop-agenda-marathi.pdf
>[4]. www.gnu.org/copyleft
>[5]. http://coe.maharashtra.gov.in/material/FrequentlyusedentriesforLocalization.pdf
>[6].
 http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/article3639047.ece
>
> 
>
>
>regards,
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>Kramashah
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Re: [Indlinux-group] Required suggestions for adding Latin characters into Lohit fonts

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On 08/08/2012 01:03 PM, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:48:35 +0530
> Pravin Satpute wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>     Lohit fonts are facing following problems due to unavailability
>> of Basic Latin characters
>> 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834368#c0
>> 2. While using Lohit as a Web font if browser does not fallback to
>> default Latin font it shows as a square box.
>> 3. If default selected font in fallback not matching with Lohit
>> style, then it does not give pleasing rendering effect.
>>
>>     To avoid these problem planning to add Basic Latin support in
>> all Lohit fonts. Need your recommendation for which font we can go
>> for now.
>> 1. It should match with Lohit style
> It could help to define the style technically. ie. stem widths,
> panose (I know for Indic fonts there has not be much research on
> panose or maybe its irrelevant for it), x-heights. Also what
> proportions to keep wrt. Indic letters vs Latin Upper case and lower
> case.

Exactly.
I am planning to import shapes from Liberation Sans and modify it as per
Lohit Style.
>
> AksharYogini font has latin set in it. You could study that or other
> fonts which cover both ranges.
 
Good pointer, We now have good set of OFL fonts, will take a look at them.

Thanks,
Pravin Satpute

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[A S A. <apr...@gm...>]

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM, sankarshan <fos...@gm...> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Guntupalli Karunakar
> <kar...@in...> wrote:
>
>> Mobile OS or mobile interfaces, which I guess includes Android,
>> Nokia, Samsung etc interfaces.
>> Probably better to list the mobile models from which the entries are
>> taken from.
>
> The initial FUEL effort was based on the Linux operating system and
> the applications therein. A primary advantage that the effort
> implicitly had was the availability of the source code (including
> translatable entities) should one was required to revisit and
> understand the context of the standardization.
>
> The specific reason I am eager to understand the extension of the FUEL
> process/method to the mobile workspace is that I see the target base
> platform being "closed". For example, Android ICS may have the source
> code available, but not the translatable entities. In addition to
> that, the current form of the mobile platform has taken a radical
> shift forward from "menu driven" (which was the staple of Nokia and
> Palm) to "activity driven" (via applications). The application
> developers use the SDK provided by the platform (Android, Bada and
> iOS) to ensure that the UI/UX remains consistent.
>
>

we already released this module for review last year:
https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/fuel-discuss/2011-June/000172.html

for desktop module, application chosen from Open Source system, but
all the applications were commonly used in various operating systems,
so entries taken from those applications share common terminology
across platform. So mobile module is also created with common
used/available terms in various devices without considering os.

As fuel goal is to achieve consistency across platform would be better
to keep terms independent of any particular platform.

-- 
A S Alam
---------

Re: [Indlinux-group] Required suggestions for adding Latin characters into Lohit fonts

[ॐ <sh...@gu...>]

On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 1:03:31 pm Guntupalli Karunakar wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:48:35 +0530
> 
> Pravin Satpute wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> >     Lohit fonts are facing following problems due to unavailability
> > 
> > of Basic Latin characters
> > 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834368#c0
> > 2. While using Lohit as a Web font if browser does not fallback to
> > default Latin font it shows as a square box.
> > 3. If default selected font in fallback not matching with Lohit
> > style, then it does not give pleasing rendering effect.
> > 
> >     To avoid these problem planning to add Basic Latin support in
> > 
> > all Lohit fonts. Need your recommendation for which font we can go
> > for now.
> > 1. It should match with Lohit style
> 
> It could help to define the style technically. ie. stem widths,
> panose (I know for Indic fonts there has not be much research on
> panose or maybe its irrelevant for it), x-heights. Also what
> proportions to keep wrt. Indic letters vs Latin Upper case and lower
> case.
> 
> AksharYogini font has latin set in it. You could study that or other
> fonts which cover both ranges.
> 
> Karunakar
> 

mii thinking, AksharYogini is worth studying and writing a pictorial 
(caligraphic) thesis again in slightly different viewpoint, but that again 
could become an abatement for a zealous hell bent on reinventing the wheel! 

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Re: [Indlinux-group] Required suggestions for adding Latin characters into Lohit fonts

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:48:35 +0530
Pravin Satpute wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
>     Lohit fonts are facing following problems due to unavailability
> of Basic Latin characters
> 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834368#c0
> 2. While using Lohit as a Web font if browser does not fallback to
> default Latin font it shows as a square box.
> 3. If default selected font in fallback not matching with Lohit
> style, then it does not give pleasing rendering effect.
> 
>     To avoid these problem planning to add Basic Latin support in
> all Lohit fonts. Need your recommendation for which font we can go
> for now.
> 1. It should match with Lohit style

It could help to define the style technically. ie. stem widths,
panose (I know for Indic fonts there has not be much research on
panose or maybe its irrelevant for it), x-heights. Also what
proportions to keep wrt. Indic letters vs Latin Upper case and lower
case.

AksharYogini font has latin set in it. You could study that or other
fonts which cover both ranges.

Karunakar

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[sankarshan <fos...@gm...>]

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Guntupalli Karunakar
<kar...@in...> wrote:

> Mobile OS or mobile interfaces, which I guess includes Android,
> Nokia, Samsung etc interfaces.
> Probably better to list the mobile models from which the entries are
> taken from.

The initial FUEL effort was based on the Linux operating system and
the applications therein. A primary advantage that the effort
implicitly had was the availability of the source code (including
translatable entities) should one was required to revisit and
understand the context of the standardization.

The specific reason I am eager to understand the extension of the FUEL
process/method to the mobile workspace is that I see the target base
platform being "closed". For example, Android ICS may have the source
code available, but not the translatable entities. In addition to
that, the current form of the mobile platform has taken a radical
shift forward from "menu driven" (which was the staple of Nokia and
Palm) to "activity driven" (via applications). The application
developers use the SDK provided by the platform (Android, Bada and
iOS) to ensure that the UI/UX remains consistent.


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Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[Guntupalli K. <kar...@in...>]

On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:20:10 +0530
sankarshan wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:19 AM, A S Alam <apr...@gm...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Fuel "Mobile" entires are from various available operating
> > systems and selected, which are most common between those.
> 
> Which are these operating systems ?
> 

Mobile OS or mobile interfaces, which I guess includes Android,
Nokia, Samsung etc interfaces.
Probably better to list the mobile models from which the entries are
taken from.

Karunakar

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[Rajesh R. <raj...@ya...>]

Thanks Sudhanwa! I can remember full two day workshop for Marathi FUEL and great discussion! Thanks a lot again.


As Chandrakant wrote, FUEL has two more modules - mobile and web and we should work on them. We can finalize the date for Mobile and Web modules. 
 


regards,
--------------
Rajesh


    

________________________________
 From: Chandrakantd <cha...@cd...>
To: "Indian Linux group ," <ind...@li...> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi
 
Yes.

Sudhanwa is right in asking this question. We need to take FUEL for Mobile 
and Website for brainstorming sessions. C-DAC is ready to arrange for this 
and depending upon the community's convenience, we can go ahead in 
finalizing the date.

Regards,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sudhanwa Jogalekar" <sud...@gm...>
To: "Rajesh Ranjan" <raj...@ya...>; "Indian Linux group ," 
<ind...@li...>
Cc: <ind...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard 
vide CoE Marathi


> Congrats !!
>
> Nice to know that FUEL Marathi is getting such a great support from
> various organisations and Govt.
>
> Do we need another FUEL Marathi brainstorming session to take up
> things further to community/masses?
>
> -Sudhanwa
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Rajesh Ranjan <raj...@ya...> 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am pleased to share with you that Government of Maharashtra has decided 
>> to
>> go with FUEL [1] as one of the linguistic standard(s) for e-Governance. 
>> On
>> Saturday August 4, 2012; CoE (Center of Excellence) Marathi [2] workshop 
>> was
>> organized by C-DAC GIST at Mantralaya, Mumbai, Maharashtra State. Mr. 
>> Rajesh
>> Aggarwal, Principal Secretary Department of IT, Govt. of Maharashtra and 
>> Mr.
>> Mahesh Kulkarni, Programme Co-ordinator, GIST, C-DAC along with
>> representatives from various IT companies were present at the workshop.
>> Agenda for the workshop is here [3].
>>
>> Mr. Rajesh Aggarwal discussed in detail about the significance of
>> standardization and importance of all government website(s) to be in 
>> native
>> (as primary language) and English (as secondary language). He emphasized
>> that linguistic content of public use need to be licensed under Copyleft
>> [4].
>>
>> Mr Mahesh Kulkarni elaborated on "Standards - importance, issues, 
>> challenges
>> & solution". During his presentation, he focused on Unicode, INSCRIPT, 
>> Open
>> Font format, searching, sorting, database, issues in Marathi 
>> localization,
>> FUEL, CLDR, Script Grammar, etc. Speaking about FUEL, he highlighted FUEL
>> terminology, Style Guide, Assessment Method(s), FUEL project road-map,
>> etc.The FUEL terminology for Marathi is available for download [5] on CoE
>> website.
>>
>> Later a team of language experts discussed about FUEL-mobile and FUEL-web
>> terminology (Marathi). Team decided to meet at the earliest and finalize
>> them. Towards the end of the workshop, the outcome of discussion with
>> language experts regarding FUEL mobile and web module(s) was delivered to
>> the audience by Mr. Chandrakant D (GIST, C-DAC) and myself.
>>
>> The workshop concluded with Mr Rajesh Aggarwal and Mr Mahesh Kulkarni
>> providing an action plan to make the Centre of Excellence for Marathi
>> successful.
>>
>> Centre of Excellence for Marathi is setup to boost e-governance 
>> initiative
>> of govt of Maharashtra[6].
>>
>> I am thankful to Mr Rajesh Aggarwal and Mr Mahesh Kulkarni for supporting
>> FUEL. Thanks a lot to Prof Anil Gore, Chandrakant D, Sandeep Shedmake,
>> Damodar Magdum along with representatives of mahaonline and all the 
>> language
>> group presents there to make the language related discussion vibrant.
>>
>> [1]. http://www.fuelproject.org ; https://fedorahosted.org/fuel
>> [2].
>> http://coe.maharashtra.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47
>> [3].
>> https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/raw-attachment/wiki/fuel-marathi/coe-workshop-agenda-marathi.pdf
>> [4]. www.gnu.org/copyleft
>> [5].
>> http://coe.maharashtra.gov.in/material/FrequentlyusedentriesforLocalization.pdf
>> [6]. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/article3639047.ece
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> --------------
>> Rajesh Ranjan
>> Kramashah
>>
>>
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Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[sankarshan <fos...@gm...>]

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:19 AM, A S Alam <apr...@gm...> wrote:

> Fuel "Mobile" entires are from various available operating systems and
> selected, which are most common between those.

Which are these operating systems ?

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<https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[A S A. <apr...@gm...>]

ਮੰਗਲਵਾਰ 07 ਅਗਸਤ 2012 04:32 ਸ਼ਾਮ ਨੂੰ, sankarshan ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Chandrakantd <cha...@cd...> wrote:
>
>> Sudhanwa is right in asking this question. We need to take FUEL for Mobile
>> and Website for brainstorming sessions. C-DAC is ready to arrange for this
>> and depending upon the community's convenience, we can go ahead in
>> finalizing the date.
> When you say "Mobile" what is the target base platform ?
>
>
Fuel "Mobile" entires are from various available operating systems and 
selected, which are most common between those.

-- 
A S Alam

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[sankarshan <fos...@gm...>]

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Chandrakantd <cha...@cd...> wrote:

> Sudhanwa is right in asking this question. We need to take FUEL for Mobile
> and Website for brainstorming sessions. C-DAC is ready to arrange for this
> and depending upon the community's convenience, we can go ahead in
> finalizing the date.

When you say "Mobile" what is the target base platform ?


-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
<https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan>

Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard vide CoE Marathi

[Chandrakantd <cha...@cd...>]

Yes.

Sudhanwa is right in asking this question. We need to take FUEL for Mobile 
and Website for brainstorming sessions. C-DAC is ready to arrange for this 
and depending upon the community's convenience, we can go ahead in 
finalizing the date.

Regards,
Chandrakant Dhutadmal.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sudhanwa Jogalekar" <sud...@gm...>
To: "Rajesh Ranjan" <raj...@ya...>; "Indian Linux group ," 
<ind...@li...>
Cc: <ind...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Indlinux-group] FUEL Becomes Integral Part of e-Gov Standard 
vide CoE Marathi


> Congrats !!
>
> Nice to know that FUEL Marathi is getting such a great support from
> various organisations and Govt.
>
> Do we need another FUEL Marathi brainstorming session to take up
> things further to community/masses?
>
> -Sudhanwa
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Rajesh Ranjan <raj...@ya...> 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am pleased to share with you that Government of Maharashtra has decided 
>> to
>> go with FUEL [1] as one of the linguistic standard(s) for e-Governance. 
>> On
>> Saturday August 4, 2012; CoE (Center of Excellence) Marathi [2] workshop 
>> was
>> organized by C-DAC GIST at Mantralaya, Mumbai, Maharashtra State. Mr. 
>> Rajesh
>> Aggarwal, Principal Secretary Department of IT, Govt. of Maharashtra and 
>> Mr.
>> Mahesh Kulkarni, Programme Co-ordinator, GIST, C-DAC along with
>> representatives from various IT companies were present at the workshop.
>> Agenda for the workshop is here [3].
>>
>> Mr. Rajesh Aggarwal discussed in detail about the significance of
>> standardization and importance of all government website(s) to be in 
>> native
>> (as primary language) and English (as secondary language). He emphasized
>> that linguistic content of public use need to be licensed under Copyleft
>> [4].
>>
>> Mr Mahesh Kulkarni elaborated on "Standards - importance, issues, 
>> challenges
>> & solution". During his presentation, he focused on Unicode, INSCRIPT, 
>> Open
>> Font format, searching, sorting, database, issues in Marathi 
>> localization,
>> FUEL, CLDR, Script Grammar, etc. Speaking about FUEL, he highlighted FUEL
>> terminology, Style Guide, Assessment Method(s), FUEL project road-map,
>> etc.The FUEL terminology for Marathi is available for download [5] on CoE
>> website.
>>
>> Later a team of language experts discussed about FUEL-mobile and FUEL-web
>> terminology (Marathi). Team decided to meet at the earliest and finalize
>> them. Towards the end of the workshop, the outcome of discussion with
>> language experts regarding FUEL mobile and web module(s) was delivered to
>> the audience by Mr. Chandrakant D (GIST, C-DAC) and myself.
>>
>> The workshop concluded with Mr Rajesh Aggarwal and Mr Mahesh Kulkarni
>> providing an action plan to make the Centre of Excellence for Marathi
>> successful.
>>
>> Centre of Excellence for Marathi is setup to boost e-governance 
>> initiative
>> of govt of Maharashtra[6].
>>
>> I am thankful to Mr Rajesh Aggarwal and Mr Mahesh Kulkarni for supporting
>> FUEL. Thanks a lot to Prof Anil Gore, Chandrakant D, Sandeep Shedmake,
>> Damodar Magdum along with representatives of mahaonline and all the 
>> language
>> group presents there to make the language related discussion vibrant.
>>
>> [1]. http://www.fuelproject.org ; https://fedorahosted.org/fuel
>> [2].
>> http://coe.maharashtra.gov.in/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47
>> [3].
>> https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/raw-attachment/wiki/fuel-marathi/coe-workshop-agenda-marathi.pdf
>> [4]. www.gnu.org/copyleft
>> [5].
>> http://coe.maharashtra.gov.in/material/FrequentlyusedentriesforLocalization.pdf
>> [6]. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/article3639047.ece
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> --------------
>> Rajesh Ranjan
>> Kramashah
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Live Security Virtual Conference
>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and
>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions
>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware
>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
>> _______________________________________________
>> IndLinux-group mailing list
>> Ind...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indlinux-group
>>
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