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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-11-02 16:44:54
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-----Forwarded Message----- > From: Russell McOrmond <ru...@fl...> > To: ilu...@il... > Subject: [ilug-cal] [Bug 52746] Mozilla does not support dynamic fonts (fwd) > Date: 02 Nov 2002 11:20:05 -0500 > > > > I am wondering if anyone involved with the Indic fonts project has > looked at this. I believe this is the right bug to discuss how to get > those websites with Bengali on them to work with Mozilla. I am watching > this so that I can know when my father-in-law will be able to view at home > (Mozilla on GNU/Linux) some sites he can only see at the office (Internet > Exploiter on Microsoft Windows). > > --- > Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/> > See http://weblog.flora.ca/ for announcements, activities, and opinions > Most recently in Toronto: Copyright or Wrong? http://www.rabble.ca/rumble/ > ALERT! ISP Licensing! http://weblog.flora.org/article.php3?story_id=273 > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:04:02 -0800 (PST) > From: bug...@mo... > To: ru...@fl... > Subject: [Bug 52746] Mozilla does not support dynamic fonts > > http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52746 > > > > > > ------- Additional Comments From xa...@my... 2002-11-01 18:03 ------- > The barrier is that no developer has done the work. That means a lack of money, > interest, or time. > > If someone steps up to the plate and does the work, and the code is good, I'm > positive it will be not only be checked in, but also the developer and his > sponsor will have the gratitude of the entire Mozilla community. > > You, or your company, or anyone is welcome to hire a developer to write that code. > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send mail to maj...@il... with the body > "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. > FAQ: http://www.ilug-cal.org/help/faq_list.html |
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-10-31 17:44:24
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Hi all, Work has started on the Akruti Bengali fonts, and Dr Anirban Mitra <mit...@ya...> has already developed a beta OTF using the glyphs. The GPOS tables are still incomplete, and some of the yuktakshars are still missing. I will upload the fonts asap in the download sections at www.nongnu.org/freebangfont/ -regards- sdg |
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From: Krishnamurthy N. <kn...@ya...> - 2002-10-23 05:50:27
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--- Arun Sharma <ar...@sh...> wrote: > > This work may be useful in making ITRANS work on > FreeBSD also (if it's > not working already). > > -Arun > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shrisha Rao" <sh...@JU...> > Newsgroups: > soc.culture.indian.karnataka,soc.culture.indian,humanities.language.sans > krit > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:07 PM > Subject: MacOS X (10.2/Jaguar/Darwin 6.0) port of > ITRANS 5.3 > > > > > > I have recently ported Avinash Chopde's ITRANS > software for TeX-based > > Indian-language typesetting, to the MacOS X > platform. Sources and binary may be obtained from: > > > > http://www.dvaita.info/shrao/itrans/ > > > > The main ITRANS website is at: > > > > http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ > > > > The source is the same as Avinash's for version > 5.3, except for a > > slight change to itrans.h to remove a reference to > malloc.h which is > > unavailable on FreeBSD and its descendants like > Darwin. > > > > Regards, > > > > Shrisha Rao I just did a clean make, install and sample run of itrans 5.3 from sources on my freeBSD system without any problems. It runs perfectly fine. So, there is no need to have a separate 'port' of itrans for freeBSD hanging around somewhere. The main source is perfectly portable (except that malloc.h usage is deprecated and you are recommended to use stdlib.h instead). cheers, Nagarajan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ |
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From: Krishnamurthy N. <kn...@ya...> - 2002-10-23 04:33:30
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--- Arun Sharma <ar...@sh...> wrote: > > This work may be useful in making ITRANS work on > FreeBSD also (if it's not working already). > > -Arun > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shrisha Rao" <sh...@JU...> > Newsgroups: > soc.culture.indian.karnataka,soc.culture.indian,humanities.language.sans > krit > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:07 PM > Subject: MacOS X (10.2/Jaguar/Darwin 6.0) port of > ITRANS 5.3 > > > > Greetings. > > > > I have recently ported Avinash Chopde's ITRANS > software for TeX-based > > Indian-language typesetting, to the MacOS X > platform. Sources and > > binary may be obtained from: > > > > http://www.dvaita.info/shrao/itrans/ > > > > The main ITRANS website is at: > > > > http://www.aczone.com/itrans/ > > > > The source is the same as Avinash's for version > 5.3, except for a > > slight change to itrans.h to remove a reference to > malloc.h which is > > unavailable on FreeBSD and its descendants like > Darwin. malloc.h is available on freeBSD (in /usr/include/sys as well as in /usr/include), just an on any Unix systems. cheers, Nagarajan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ |
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From: Arun S. <ar...@sh...> - 2002-10-22 16:21:04
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This work may be useful in making ITRANS work on FreeBSD also (if it's
not working already).
-Arun
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shrisha Rao" <sh...@JU...>
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.indian.karnataka,soc.culture.indian,humanities.language.sans
krit
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: MacOS X (10.2/Jaguar/Darwin 6.0) port of ITRANS 5.3
> Greetings.
>
> I have recently ported Avinash Chopde's ITRANS software for TeX-based
> Indian-language typesetting, to the MacOS X platform. Sources and
> binary may be obtained from:
>
> http://www.dvaita.info/shrao/itrans/
>
> The main ITRANS website is at:
>
> http://www.aczone.com/itrans/
>
> The source is the same as Avinash's for version 5.3, except for a
> slight change to itrans.h to remove a reference to malloc.h which is
> unavailable on FreeBSD and its descendants like Darwin.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shrisha Rao
> --
>
> http://www.dvaita.org
> http://www.dvaita.net
>
>
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-10-21 16:02:20
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On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 16:06, Baiju M wrote: > Congratulations! your project is simply great. Now I am > planning to start a similar one for Malayalam. great - in fact the website is not complete - i have to squeeze out some time in some way :) > > BTW, can you write a guide lines for Indic OpenType font > dvelopers apart from MS documents. I may be able to help a > little bit for this effort. See there is no seperate > documentation for Malayalam and Bangala at Microsoft site. > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/specs/default.htm > (all other indian languages has sperate documents) > yes - that's what the Documentation part of the project is for Free documentation for the Open Type specs are badly needed :( I am willing to write such a document, but let me figure things out completely first - I am yet to figure certain features out properly :D -cheers- sdg |
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From: Baiju M <mal...@ya...> - 2002-10-21 10:36:10
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Congratulations! your project is simply great. Now I am planning to start a similar one for Malayalam. BTW, can you write a guide lines for Indic OpenType font dvelopers apart from MS documents. I may be able to help a little bit for this effort. See there is no seperate documentation for Malayalam and Bangala at Microsoft site. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/specs/default.htm (all other indian languages has sperate documents) With thanks and regards, Baiju M --- Sayamindu Dasgupta <unm...@So...> wrote: > Ho! > I just got a mail from Anirban Mitra > <mit...@ya...> > and he has sent me a GPL'ed Bangla OTF he has designed > The glyphs are not very good - but the tables seem to be > perfect - and > this font can serve as a reference later Bangla OTFs :D > I have asked him if he can join the project at > www.nongnu.org/freebangfont > ...this looks good :) > -iti- > sdg ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ |
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-10-21 08:29:47
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Ho! I just got a mail from Anirban Mitra <mit...@ya...> and he has sent me a GPL'ed Bangla OTF he has designed The glyphs are not very good - but the tables seem to be perfect - and this font can serve as a reference later Bangla OTFs :D I have asked him if he can join the project at www.nongnu.org/freebangfont ...this looks good :) -iti- sdg |
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From: Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...> - 2002-10-17 09:29:46
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Baiju M <mal...@ya...> wrote: > > --- Rajkumar S <s_...@my...> wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Guntupalli Karunakar wrote: > > > > > From localization ( translation ) perspectives not change, > > but we > > > > I heard from some where (slashdot discussion?) that the > > default charset is > > now utf-8 instead of the iso8859-*. Is it true? > > Yes, the native encoding for both KDE and GNOMe is UTF-8. > after some time (donno when ?) for Linux console too. > BTW, does anyone know why iso8859-12 never become devanagari > 8-bit encoding encoding? > It was reserverd for ISCII ISO has been waiting for indian standards bodies for it. Also maybe ISCII doesnt fit ISO requirements, it would be better to have different codepages for each language, iso8859-12 for dev, iso8859-16,17 so on for other languages. Having them seperate will help each language have its own ordering, character equivalence for a code point need not be maintained. Sort order based on code point is easier. anyway its little too late for 8 bit standards, but maybe having them defined would do no harm. Regards, Karunakar |
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-10-15 08:55:56
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Akaash - A GPL'ed OTF for Bengali =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hello,=20 I just released the 0.5 (BETA) version of the Akaash OpenType Font. There are a number of problems with the font, but it works, and has support for many of the commonly used conjuncts. I have also created a mailing list for the development of this font at=20 http://www.peacefulaction.org/mailman/listinfo/akaash-devel_peacefulaction.= org You can send mails to this list at aka...@pe... To download the font pacakage, use the link http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/Akaash-0.5.tar.gz (124 KB) Also do note that this system is temporary - I will be moving to savannah.gnu.org as soon as the project is approved (there had been some naming issues with the project - and I think that I'll get the approval within this week). Warm Bijoya wishes to all. =E0=A6=B8=E0=A6=AC=E0=A6=BE=E0=A6=87=E0=A6=95=E0=A7=87 =E0=A6=AC=E0=A6=BF= =E0=A6=9C=E0=A7=9F=E0=A6=BE=E0=A6=B0 =E0=A6=B6=E0=A7=81=E0=A6=AD=E0=A7=87= =E0=A6=9A=E0=A7=8D=E0=A6=9B=E0=A6=BE =E0=A6=9C=E0=A6=BE=E0=A6=A8=E0=A6=BF= =E0=A7=9F=E0=A7=87 =E0=A6=B6=E0=A7=87=E0=A6=B7 =E0=A6=95=E0=A6=B0=E0=A6=9B= =E0=A6=BF -iti- Sayamindu Dasgupta Crazy GNU/Linux-er http://www.peacefulaction.org/sayamindu/ |
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From: <al...@ya...> - 2002-10-15 04:35:06
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Hi, I was just going thru the handbook on http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/handbook/index.html, and I also read the "helping in this project" para, hence this mail. I'd like to help in building the handbook - that will help people who are not actively involved in a coding project, but want to start off (like me) an overview of what's going on, so they can choose what to do, and also, ensure there's no duplication happening. So, I'd like to contribute. As I just stated, I'm not working on any indic computing project, and never have. I have just done translation of some docs to Hindi, using hi_IN.UTF-8. Therefore I'd like to know how I can contribute, as far as writing goes, I can write only in Hindi, though I can read Tamil, and all devanagari based scripts of course. Maybe I could start off with the Language Information -> Hindi. But before I do, I'd like to ask you guys where you'd like help, and you would need to tell me how to go about the admin related stuff. Koshy, if you are reading this, I did send you mail at the freebsd address, but it bounced. Do you have another? Regards Alok ===== à¤à¥à¤¸à¥ रहà¥? This message was sent from alkuma "at" yahoo "dot" com To read hindi message [Instructions for IE] 1. set view->encoding : utf8 2. set Tools->Internet Options->General->Font->Devanagari script : choose any font. If no font is listed, download the font from http://bbchindi.com . 3. set Tools->Internet Options->General->Languages : add hi to the list To write in hindi on Windows machine: http://geocities.com/hanu_man_ji All done? Now try http://hindi.mozzie.org ________________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite TV serial last night? Try the new, Yahoo! TV. visit http://in.tv.yahoo.com |
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From: Kaushik G. <kg...@wa...> - 2002-10-14 18:43:31
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Hi sayamindu, On 14 Oct 2002, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hello all, > I am facing a strange problem with the OTF I am designing. > Different editors are showing different glyphs for the same clusters > For example, when I type in na hasant na > in Gedit, I get nn (what I expect) but in Yudit I get nr > Can anybody tell me which one is correct ?? As far as I remember yudit works fine with code2000 Do you have code2000 ? You might use that as a 'reference" font to check yours. -kg |
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From: Sayamindu D. <unm...@So...> - 2002-10-14 15:58:09
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Hello all, I am facing a strange problem with the OTF I am designing. Different editors are showing different glyphs for the same clusters For example, when I type in na hasant na in Gedit, I get nn (what I expect) but in Yudit I get nr Can anybody tell me which one is correct ?? I am totally confused. Also, when I write in Gedit, the glyphs are not arranging themselves in the same line. For example, the Akaar is going up, while the na is going down. The same thing is happening in IE6, but with different glyphs :S. However, in Yudit, everything lines up perfectly. Also, while running Yudit, I get a message saying Fixed broken default langsys table in AkaashNormal.ttf. (zz01 0/1) What does this mean ?? TIA -sdg- |
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From: Daniel E. <dan...@gm...> - 2002-10-13 14:16:28
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Am Son, 2002-10-13 um 16.11 schrieb Daniel Elstner: > Am Son, 2002-10-13 um 16.04 schrieb Daniel Elstner: > > Am Son, 2002-10-13 um 08.51 schrieb Tapan S. Parikh: > > > > > > cout << t.c_str() << endl > > > cout << t << endl; > > > > This one I don't fully understand. If there's really no semicolon after > > the 1st endl, you're outputting a pointer to the stream... > > Ooops no, that would require another << as well. So I guess it's just a > typo. Hmm, that's really weird then -- the 2nd line does work? Wait, I suddenly remembered a change in GLib I recently stumbled over while studying the ChangeLog: Tue Aug 20 16:01:03 2002 HideToshi Tajima <hid...@su...> * glib/gconvert.c (strdup_len): validate 'len' argument properly for the case that input string is not null-terminated. (#91222) That would explain why a) the weird c_str() + normal output combination works: c_str() appends the '\0' termination character. And b) why it works if the locale charset isn't UTF-8: strdup_len() is only called if no conversion is necessary (it just copies and validates the input). So I'm pretty sure this is your problem. Grab GLib (branch glib-2-0) from CVS or wait for the next release. They already bumped the version number to 2.0.7 in CVS, so it can't be too far off. Cheers, --Daniel |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-10-13 07:02:43
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Having some problems with Glib::ustring in gtkmm2...
It seems I cannot print some strings until I run the function .c_str()
on them when working in a locale with charset = UTF-8. The following
code works (in each case t is initialized from a string constant).
cout << t.c_str() << endl;
as does this:
cout << t.c_str() << endl
cout << t << endl;
but the following by itself doesn't
cout << t << endl;
I get the following error:
(hisaab:24296): glibmm-CRITICAL **:
unhandled exception (type Glib::Error) in signal handler:
domain: g_convert_error
code : 1
what : ¿¢¨à áü¢Ã¢ý ¯ûãÃ
ø ºÃ¢Ãü ¨Ãð Ã⨺èÃ
This error doesnt happen in en_US locale which uses iso-8859-1 charset.
Any ideas what is happening here?
Also, what is preferred to assign one ustring to another, operator= or
the assign function or are they equivalent?
Thanks for your help! (btw is the gtk-devel list better for these types
of queries?)
-- Tapan
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From: Hema A M. <he...@la...> - 2002-10-09 11:03:32
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Prof. Yegnanaryana of IIT Madras has Doordarshan News data for 8 different Indian Languages. There are between 20-33 bulletins in each language. Tamil, Hindi and Telugu have been labelled using C*V. Prof. Yegnanarayana's e-mail id is: ye...@ii.... Students and faculty at IITM do have free access to this database. He is planning to make it available to others too. My suggestion is that you can write/ talk to him about these databases. We have been using this database for getting rules for prosody for TTS and Continuous Speech Recognition. -hema On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Kalika Bali wrote: > > Please, > its KALIKA not any of the other varients used. > > I don't know if Dr. Dash remembers but I did mail him a month and a half > ago asking him if he was aware of any speech corpus in Indian languages > that I could use and he had told me the same thing. > > I did go to the TDIl site but they only mentioned some machine-readable (I > presumed- text) corpora being maintained by CIIL, Mysore. Nothing at all > on speech corpora. > > Dr. Dash do you know what the IBM speech recogniser is using to train > their models ? > > thanks, > Kalika > > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > > > > Dear Tapan S. Parikh, > > > > Thanks for your mail. Sorry I have late in reply. To my knowledge speech > > corpus in Indian languages are very rare. Only a few gropus have developed > > this. However, they are not properly designed follwing the designing > > principles applied in LOB or Swedish speech corpus. > > > > Some information regarding Indian speech corpus can be found in the News > > Letter of MIT, Govt. of India at : http://tdil.mit.gov.in > > > > With best wishes and regards, > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Niladri > > ======= > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > % DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > > % MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > > % Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > > % Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > > % Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > % Office Address: % > > % =============== % > > % Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > > % Indian Statistical Institute % > > % 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > > % Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > > % ======================================================% > > % Telegram: STATISTICA % > > % Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > > % Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > > % Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > > % Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > > % FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > > % Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > > % Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, > > Tapan S. Parikh wrote: > > > > > > > > Dr. Dash et al, > > > > > > Yes, that is great, welcome to the mailing list! > > > > > > btw I think Vijay meant Kavita Bali who attended the conference. She is > > > working with Picopeta Simputers and is researching indic language speech > > > corpuses (corpii?). > > > > > > We look forward to interact with you all in future! > > > > > > -- Tapan > > > > > > -- Mailing List Admin > > > -- Indic-Computing Project > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:24:23 +0530 > > > Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vi...@ek...> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > This is for attention for the groups particularly interested to work > > > > on speech technology for Indian languages & development of corpus. Let > > > > me introduce to the group Prof. Niladri Sekhar Dash of ISI Kolkatta, > > > > who is working on development of corpus (both written and spoken) > > > > generation in Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > > > > generation and lexicography. > > > > > > > > As this was one of the identified gap at the workshop and we had only > > > > Kokila (& Ravikant) there to represent linguists. I had been in touch > > > > with Prof. Dash in post workshop communication and he offer to be part > > > > > > > > of the group and take up some responsibility in his domain areas, > > > > besides bringing in other colleagues from ISI to join in to contribute > > > > > > > > to Indic-Computing. > > > > > > > > I have suggested Prof. Dash to take intiative in this area and help to > > > > > > > > develop this group. I would suggest members interested in corpus > > > > building to get in touch with Prof. dash. I am including the mails > > > > exchnaged with him as under. > > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Prof. Dash may I request you to kindly join Indic-Computing > > > > mailing lists, you can go to http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > > > to subscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > > > > > > > >Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > > > > > > > > >Nice to hear you. I will be happy to join the group and think myself > > > > >fortunate that I can serve with others in the team for common couse > > > > >of > > > > our > > > > >nation. > > > > > > > > > >Today, I had a discussion regarding your conference minutes with my > > > > >HoD, Prof. B.B. Chaudhuri who lamented that he did not prior > > > > >information about the conference. Otherwise, he might have joined > > > > >it. Meanwhile, he had a meeting with Pat Hall and Durgesh Rao at > > > > >Berlin where he had some feed backs about the conference. > > > > > > > > > >In fact, we have been doing researches in many areas of language > > > > >technology (e.g., OCR, spell-checker, morphological > > > > >processor, speech synthesis, Information retrieval, document > > > > >processing, font designing, MRDs, etc.) for Bangla and other > > > > >languages. All these people along with their works can probably join > > > > >Indic Computing to achieve better results. If your group likes then > > > > >I can approach > > > > them to > > > > >think about it. > > > > > > > > > >With best wishes, > > > > > > > > > >Niladri > > > > >====== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Dr. Dash, > > > > >> > > > > >>Thanks for your mail and support, we would be very happy if you > > > > >join the>Indic-Computing effort, the community which has come > > > > >together is looking>forward to guidance from senior people like you. > > > > >Your support is much>required and as the areas identified by you in > > > > >which you would be able>to contribute had been one of the major > > > > >areas of concerns amongst the>participants at the worksop, I think > > > > >people would look forward to all>possible help. > > > > >> > > > > >>Alow me to post your mail to the Indic computing mailing list, i > > > > >hope>people owho are working in localisation and developing lexical > > > > >resources>woould get back to you for your inputs on the work that > > > > >they are doing.> > > > > >><<2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > > > > >started>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > > > > >is near>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > > > > >and new)>related with this field.>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>The Handbook that you are making could also be merged with the one > > > > >we>already are planning such that developers and people working in > > > > >the area>can have acccess to all the possible resources. This is an > > > > >execellent>direction aken by you, we on the other hand are trying to > > > > >begin in this>direction for the technical handbook. > > > > >> > > > > >><<3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > > > > >speech>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > > > > >transliterated,>transcripted and annotated following a national > > > > >standard - to be > > > > designed > > > > >>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > > > > initiation.>> > > > > >> > > > > >>I think this would be perfect, I think we can involve all the > > > > >people > > > > working in this area to organise themsleves, could I also suggest foor > > > > a small workshop of developers and experts in this area, as the one > > > > suggested by us for OTF. > > > > >> > > > > >><<4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > > > > communities, I > > > > >>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students to join in the > > > > >team>to work together.>> > > > > >> > > > > >>I think if you can coordiante this effort and if we can form a > > > > >team, > > > > it would be wornderful, I would infact request you to join in the > > > > Indic computing list and offer your help. I shall also post (subject > > > > to your confirmation) your mail at the list. > > > > >> > > > > >><<Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > > > > >> > > > > >>With best wishes,>> > > > > >> > > > > >>I think we have a lot oof value to add in terms oof standardization > > > > > > > > > and developing resources for enabling computing. Your help would be > > > > very useful. I look forwward to your confirmation so that II can > > > > introduce your maiil to the group and then start the process of group > > > > formation in this critical area. > > > > >> > > > > >>Regards > > > > >> > > > > >>vijay > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>>Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Thanks for your mail. Let me inform you that I went through the > > > > >>>"Action points Indic Computing Workshop September 2002" and found > > > > >some>>ereas where I can participate. These are as follows: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>1. My area of work is corpus (both written and spoken) generation > > > > >in>>Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > > > > >generation and>>lexicography. I find some to be useful for Indic > > > > >Computing group.>> > > > > >>>2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > > > > >started>>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > > > > >is near>>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > > > > >and new)>>related with this field. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > > > > >speech>>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > > > > >transliterated,>>transcripted and annotated following a national > > > > >standard - to be > > > > designed > > > > >>>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > > > > initiation. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > > > > >communities, I>>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students > > > > >to join in the > > > > team > > > > >>>to work together. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>With best wishes, > > > > >>> > > > > >>>Niladri, > > > > >>>========== > > > > > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > >>>% DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > > > > > >>>% MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > > > > > >>>% Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > > > > > >>>% Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > > > > > >>>% Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > > > > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > >>>% Office Address: % > > > > > >>>% =============== % > > > > > >>>% Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > > > > > >>>% Indian Statistical Institute % > > > > > >>>% 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > > > > > >>>% Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > > > > > >>>% ======================================================% > > > > > >>>% Telegram: STATISTICA % > > > > > >>>% Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > > > > > >>>% Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > > > > > >>>% Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > > > > > >>>% Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > > > > > >>>% FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > > > > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > > > > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > > > > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Indic-computing-users mailing list > > > > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Ind...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-users > > > > [Other Indic-Computing mailing lists: -devel, -standards, -announce] > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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From: Kalika B. <ka...@pi...> - 2002-10-09 09:19:56
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Please, its KALIKA not any of the other varients used. I don't know if Dr. Dash remembers but I did mail him a month and a half ago asking him if he was aware of any speech corpus in Indian languages that I could use and he had told me the same thing. I did go to the TDIl site but they only mentioned some machine-readable (I presumed- text) corpora being maintained by CIIL, Mysore. Nothing at all on speech corpora. Dr. Dash do you know what the IBM speech recogniser is using to train their models ? thanks, Kalika On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > Dear Tapan S. Parikh, > > Thanks for your mail. Sorry I have late in reply. To my knowledge speech > corpus in Indian languages are very rare. Only a few gropus have developed > this. However, they are not properly designed follwing the designing > principles applied in LOB or Swedish speech corpus. > > Some information regarding Indian speech corpus can be found in the News > Letter of MIT, Govt. of India at : http://tdil.mit.gov.in > > With best wishes and regards, > > Sincerely, > > Niladri > ======= > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > % DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > % MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > % Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > % Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > % Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > % Office Address: % > % =============== % > % Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > % Indian Statistical Institute % > % 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > % Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > % ======================================================% > % Telegram: STATISTICA % > % Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > % Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > % Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > % Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > % FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > % Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > % Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, > Tapan S. Parikh wrote: > > > > > Dr. Dash et al, > > > > Yes, that is great, welcome to the mailing list! > > > > btw I think Vijay meant Kavita Bali who attended the conference. She is > > working with Picopeta Simputers and is researching indic language speech > > corpuses (corpii?). > > > > We look forward to interact with you all in future! > > > > -- Tapan > > > > -- Mailing List Admin > > -- Indic-Computing Project > > > > > > On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:24:23 +0530 > > Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vi...@ek...> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > This is for attention for the groups particularly interested to work > > > on speech technology for Indian languages & development of corpus. Let > > > me introduce to the group Prof. Niladri Sekhar Dash of ISI Kolkatta, > > > who is working on development of corpus (both written and spoken) > > > generation in Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > > > generation and lexicography. > > > > > > As this was one of the identified gap at the workshop and we had only > > > Kokila (& Ravikant) there to represent linguists. I had been in touch > > > with Prof. Dash in post workshop communication and he offer to be part > > > > > > of the group and take up some responsibility in his domain areas, > > > besides bringing in other colleagues from ISI to join in to contribute > > > > > > to Indic-Computing. > > > > > > I have suggested Prof. Dash to take intiative in this area and help to > > > > > > develop this group. I would suggest members interested in corpus > > > building to get in touch with Prof. dash. I am including the mails > > > exchnaged with him as under. > > > > > > best > > > > > > vijay > > > > > > > > > Cc: Prof. Dash may I request you to kindly join Indic-Computing > > > mailing lists, you can go to http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > > to subscribe > > > > > > > > > Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > > > > > > >Nice to hear you. I will be happy to join the group and think myself > > > >fortunate that I can serve with others in the team for common couse > > > >of > > > our > > > >nation. > > > > > > > >Today, I had a discussion regarding your conference minutes with my > > > >HoD, Prof. B.B. Chaudhuri who lamented that he did not prior > > > >information about the conference. Otherwise, he might have joined > > > >it. Meanwhile, he had a meeting with Pat Hall and Durgesh Rao at > > > >Berlin where he had some feed backs about the conference. > > > > > > > >In fact, we have been doing researches in many areas of language > > > >technology (e.g., OCR, spell-checker, morphological > > > >processor, speech synthesis, Information retrieval, document > > > >processing, font designing, MRDs, etc.) for Bangla and other > > > >languages. All these people along with their works can probably join > > > >Indic Computing to achieve better results. If your group likes then > > > >I can approach > > > them to > > > >think about it. > > > > > > > >With best wishes, > > > > > > > >Niladri > > > >====== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya wrote: > > > > > > > >>Dear Dr. Dash, > > > >> > > > >>Thanks for your mail and support, we would be very happy if you > > > >join the>Indic-Computing effort, the community which has come > > > >together is looking>forward to guidance from senior people like you. > > > >Your support is much>required and as the areas identified by you in > > > >which you would be able>to contribute had been one of the major > > > >areas of concerns amongst the>participants at the worksop, I think > > > >people would look forward to all>possible help. > > > >> > > > >>Alow me to post your mail to the Indic computing mailing list, i > > > >hope>people owho are working in localisation and developing lexical > > > >resources>woould get back to you for your inputs on the work that > > > >they are doing.> > > > >><<2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > > > >started>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > > > >is near>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > > > >and new)>related with this field.>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>The Handbook that you are making could also be merged with the one > > > >we>already are planning such that developers and people working in > > > >the area>can have acccess to all the possible resources. This is an > > > >execellent>direction aken by you, we on the other hand are trying to > > > >begin in this>direction for the technical handbook. > > > >> > > > >><<3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > > > >speech>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > > > >transliterated,>transcripted and annotated following a national > > > >standard - to be > > > designed > > > >>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > > > initiation.>> > > > >> > > > >>I think this would be perfect, I think we can involve all the > > > >people > > > working in this area to organise themsleves, could I also suggest foor > > > a small workshop of developers and experts in this area, as the one > > > suggested by us for OTF. > > > >> > > > >><<4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > > > communities, I > > > >>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students to join in the > > > >team>to work together.>> > > > >> > > > >>I think if you can coordiante this effort and if we can form a > > > >team, > > > it would be wornderful, I would infact request you to join in the > > > Indic computing list and offer your help. I shall also post (subject > > > to your confirmation) your mail at the list. > > > >> > > > >><<Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > > > >> > > > >>With best wishes,>> > > > >> > > > >>I think we have a lot oof value to add in terms oof standardization > > > > > > > and developing resources for enabling computing. Your help would be > > > very useful. I look forwward to your confirmation so that II can > > > introduce your maiil to the group and then start the process of group > > > formation in this critical area. > > > >> > > > >>Regards > > > >> > > > >>vijay > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > > >>> > > > >>>Thanks for your mail. Let me inform you that I went through the > > > >>>"Action points Indic Computing Workshop September 2002" and found > > > >some>>ereas where I can participate. These are as follows: > > > >>> > > > >>>1. My area of work is corpus (both written and spoken) generation > > > >in>>Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > > > >generation and>>lexicography. I find some to be useful for Indic > > > >Computing group.>> > > > >>>2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > > > >started>>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > > > >is near>>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > > > >and new)>>related with this field. > > > >>> > > > >>>3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > > > >speech>>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > > > >transliterated,>>transcripted and annotated following a national > > > >standard - to be > > > designed > > > >>>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > > > initiation. > > > >>> > > > >>>4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > > > >communities, I>>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students > > > >to join in the > > > team > > > >>>to work together. > > > >>> > > > >>>Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > > > >>> > > > >>>With best wishes, > > > >>> > > > >>>Niladri, > > > >>>========== > > > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > >>>% DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > > > > >>>% MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > > > > >>>% Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > > > > >>>% Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > > > > >>>% Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > > > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > >>>% Office Address: % > > > > >>>% =============== % > > > > >>>% Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > > > > >>>% Indian Statistical Institute % > > > > >>>% 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > > > > >>>% Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > > > > >>>% ======================================================% > > > > >>>% Telegram: STATISTICA % > > > > >>>% Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > > > > >>>% Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > > > > >>>% Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > > > > >>>% Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > > > > >>>% FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > > > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > > > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > > > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Indic-computing-users mailing list > > > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > > Ind...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-users > > > [Other Indic-Computing mailing lists: -devel, -standards, -announce] > > > > > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kalika Bali Picopeta Simputers Pvt Ltd Specialist - Language Technology 146 5th Cross e-mail: ka...@pi... 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From: Niladri S. D. <ni...@is...> - 2002-10-09 05:59:31
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Dear Tapan S. Parikh, Thanks for your mail. Sorry I have late in reply. To my knowledge speech corpus in Indian languages are very rare. Only a few gropus have developed this. However, they are not properly designed follwing the designing principles applied in LOB or Swedish speech corpus. Some information regarding Indian speech corpus can be found in the News Letter of MIT, Govt. of India at : http://tdil.mit.gov.in With best wishes and regards, Sincerely, Niladri ======= %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % % MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % % Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % % Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % % Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Office Address: % % =============== % % Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % % Indian Statistical Institute % % 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % % Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % % ======================================================% % Telegram: STATISTICA % % Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % % Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % % Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % % Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % % FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % % Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % % Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Tapan S. Parikh wrote: > > Dr. Dash et al, > > Yes, that is great, welcome to the mailing list! > > btw I think Vijay meant Kavita Bali who attended the conference. She is > working with Picopeta Simputers and is researching indic language speech > corpuses (corpii?). > > We look forward to interact with you all in future! > > -- Tapan > > -- Mailing List Admin > -- Indic-Computing Project > > > On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:24:23 +0530 > Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vi...@ek...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This is for attention for the groups particularly interested to work > > on speech technology for Indian languages & development of corpus. Let > > me introduce to the group Prof. Niladri Sekhar Dash of ISI Kolkatta, > > who is working on development of corpus (both written and spoken) > > generation in Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > > generation and lexicography. > > > > As this was one of the identified gap at the workshop and we had only > > Kokila (& Ravikant) there to represent linguists. I had been in touch > > with Prof. Dash in post workshop communication and he offer to be part > > > > of the group and take up some responsibility in his domain areas, > > besides bringing in other colleagues from ISI to join in to contribute > > > > to Indic-Computing. > > > > I have suggested Prof. Dash to take intiative in this area and help to > > > > develop this group. I would suggest members interested in corpus > > building to get in touch with Prof. dash. I am including the mails > > exchnaged with him as under. > > > > best > > > > vijay > > > > > > Cc: Prof. Dash may I request you to kindly join Indic-Computing > > mailing lists, you can go to http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > to subscribe > > > > > > Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > > > >Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > > > > >Nice to hear you. I will be happy to join the group and think myself > > >fortunate that I can serve with others in the team for common couse > > >of > > our > > >nation. > > > > > >Today, I had a discussion regarding your conference minutes with my > > >HoD, Prof. B.B. Chaudhuri who lamented that he did not prior > > >information about the conference. Otherwise, he might have joined > > >it. Meanwhile, he had a meeting with Pat Hall and Durgesh Rao at > > >Berlin where he had some feed backs about the conference. > > > > > >In fact, we have been doing researches in many areas of language > > >technology (e.g., OCR, spell-checker, morphological > > >processor, speech synthesis, Information retrieval, document > > >processing, font designing, MRDs, etc.) for Bangla and other > > >languages. All these people along with their works can probably join > > >Indic Computing to achieve better results. If your group likes then > > >I can approach > > them to > > >think about it. > > > > > >With best wishes, > > > > > >Niladri > > >====== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya wrote: > > > > > >>Dear Dr. Dash, > > >> > > >>Thanks for your mail and support, we would be very happy if you > > >join the>Indic-Computing effort, the community which has come > > >together is looking>forward to guidance from senior people like you. > > >Your support is much>required and as the areas identified by you in > > >which you would be able>to contribute had been one of the major > > >areas of concerns amongst the>participants at the worksop, I think > > >people would look forward to all>possible help. > > >> > > >>Alow me to post your mail to the Indic computing mailing list, i > > >hope>people owho are working in localisation and developing lexical > > >resources>woould get back to you for your inputs on the work that > > >they are doing.> > > >><<2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > > >started>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > > >is near>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > > >and new)>related with this field.>> > > >> > > >> > > >>The Handbook that you are making could also be merged with the one > > >we>already are planning such that developers and people working in > > >the area>can have acccess to all the possible resources. This is an > > >execellent>direction aken by you, we on the other hand are trying to > > >begin in this>direction for the technical handbook. > > >> > > >><<3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > > >speech>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > > >transliterated,>transcripted and annotated following a national > > >standard - to be > > designed > > >>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > > initiation.>> > > >> > > >>I think this would be perfect, I think we can involve all the > > >people > > working in this area to organise themsleves, could I also suggest foor > > a small workshop of developers and experts in this area, as the one > > suggested by us for OTF. > > >> > > >><<4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > > communities, I > > >>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students to join in the > > >team>to work together.>> > > >> > > >>I think if you can coordiante this effort and if we can form a > > >team, > > it would be wornderful, I would infact request you to join in the > > Indic computing list and offer your help. I shall also post (subject > > to your confirmation) your mail at the list. > > >> > > >><<Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > > >> > > >>With best wishes,>> > > >> > > >>I think we have a lot oof value to add in terms oof standardization > > > > > and developing resources for enabling computing. Your help would be > > very useful. I look forwward to your confirmation so that II can > > introduce your maiil to the group and then start the process of group > > formation in this critical area. > > >> > > >>Regards > > >> > > >>vijay > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > >> > > >>>Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > >>> > > >>>Thanks for your mail. Let me inform you that I went through the > > >>>"Action points Indic Computing Workshop September 2002" and found > > >some>>ereas where I can participate. These are as follows: > > >>> > > >>>1. My area of work is corpus (both written and spoken) generation > > >in>>Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > > >generation and>>lexicography. I find some to be useful for Indic > > >Computing group.>> > > >>>2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > > >started>>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > > >is near>>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > > >and new)>>related with this field. > > >>> > > >>>3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > > >speech>>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > > >transliterated,>>transcripted and annotated following a national > > >standard - to be > > designed > > >>>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > > initiation. > > >>> > > >>>4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > > >communities, I>>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students > > >to join in the > > team > > >>>to work together. > > >>> > > >>>Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > > >>> > > >>>With best wishes, > > >>> > > >>>Niladri, > > >>>========== > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > >>>% DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > > > >>>% MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > > > >>>% Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > > > >>>% Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > > > >>>% Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > >>>% Office Address: % > > > >>>% =============== % > > > >>>% Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > > > >>>% Indian Statistical Institute % > > > >>>% 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > > > >>>% Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > > > >>>% ======================================================% > > > >>>% Telegram: STATISTICA % > > > >>>% Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > > > >>>% Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > > > >>>% Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > > > >>>% Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > > > >>>% FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Indic-computing-users mailing list > > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > > Ind...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-users > > [Other Indic-Computing mailing lists: -devel, -standards, -announce] > > -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % % MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % % Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % % Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % % Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Office Address: % % =============== % % Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % % Indian Statistical Institute % % 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % % Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % % ======================================================% % Telegram: STATISTICA % % Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % % Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % % Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % % Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % % FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % % Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % % Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% |
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From: Tapan S. P. <ta...@ya...> - 2002-10-05 10:31:15
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Dr. Dash et al, Yes, that is great, welcome to the mailing list! btw I think Vijay meant Kavita Bali who attended the conference. She is working with Picopeta Simputers and is researching indic language speech corpuses (corpii?). We look forward to interact with you all in future! -- Tapan -- Mailing List Admin -- Indic-Computing Project On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:24:23 +0530 Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya <vi...@ek...> wrote: > Hi, > > This is for attention for the groups particularly interested to work > on speech technology for Indian languages & development of corpus. Let > me introduce to the group Prof. Niladri Sekhar Dash of ISI Kolkatta, > who is working on development of corpus (both written and spoken) > generation in Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > generation and lexicography. > > As this was one of the identified gap at the workshop and we had only > Kokila (& Ravikant) there to represent linguists. I had been in touch > with Prof. Dash in post workshop communication and he offer to be part > > of the group and take up some responsibility in his domain areas, > besides bringing in other colleagues from ISI to join in to contribute > > to Indic-Computing. > > I have suggested Prof. Dash to take intiative in this area and help to > > develop this group. I would suggest members interested in corpus > building to get in touch with Prof. dash. I am including the mails > exchnaged with him as under. > > best > > vijay > > > Cc: Prof. Dash may I request you to kindly join Indic-Computing > mailing lists, you can go to http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > to subscribe > > > Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > > >Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > > > >Nice to hear you. I will be happy to join the group and think myself > >fortunate that I can serve with others in the team for common couse > >of > our > >nation. > > > >Today, I had a discussion regarding your conference minutes with my > >HoD, Prof. B.B. Chaudhuri who lamented that he did not prior > >information about the conference. Otherwise, he might have joined > >it. Meanwhile, he had a meeting with Pat Hall and Durgesh Rao at > >Berlin where he had some feed backs about the conference. > > > >In fact, we have been doing researches in many areas of language > >technology (e.g., OCR, spell-checker, morphological > >processor, speech synthesis, Information retrieval, document > >processing, font designing, MRDs, etc.) for Bangla and other > >languages. All these people along with their works can probably join > >Indic Computing to achieve better results. If your group likes then > >I can approach > them to > >think about it. > > > >With best wishes, > > > >Niladri > >====== > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya wrote: > > > >>Dear Dr. Dash, > >> > >>Thanks for your mail and support, we would be very happy if you > >join the>Indic-Computing effort, the community which has come > >together is looking>forward to guidance from senior people like you. > >Your support is much>required and as the areas identified by you in > >which you would be able>to contribute had been one of the major > >areas of concerns amongst the>participants at the worksop, I think > >people would look forward to all>possible help. > >> > >>Alow me to post your mail to the Indic computing mailing list, i > >hope>people owho are working in localisation and developing lexical > >resources>woould get back to you for your inputs on the work that > >they are doing.> > >><<2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > >started>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > >is near>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > >and new)>related with this field.>> > >> > >> > >>The Handbook that you are making could also be merged with the one > >we>already are planning such that developers and people working in > >the area>can have acccess to all the possible resources. This is an > >execellent>direction aken by you, we on the other hand are trying to > >begin in this>direction for the technical handbook. > >> > >><<3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > >speech>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > >transliterated,>transcripted and annotated following a national > >standard - to be > designed > >>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > initiation.>> > >> > >>I think this would be perfect, I think we can involve all the > >people > working in this area to organise themsleves, could I also suggest foor > a small workshop of developers and experts in this area, as the one > suggested by us for OTF. > >> > >><<4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > communities, I > >>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students to join in the > >team>to work together.>> > >> > >>I think if you can coordiante this effort and if we can form a > >team, > it would be wornderful, I would infact request you to join in the > Indic computing list and offer your help. I shall also post (subject > to your confirmation) your mail at the list. > >> > >><<Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > >> > >>With best wishes,>> > >> > >>I think we have a lot oof value to add in terms oof standardization > > > and developing resources for enabling computing. Your help would be > very useful. I look forwward to your confirmation so that II can > introduce your maiil to the group and then start the process of group > formation in this critical area. > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>vijay > >> > >> > >> > >>Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: > >> > >>>Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > >>> > >>>Thanks for your mail. Let me inform you that I went through the > >>>"Action points Indic Computing Workshop September 2002" and found > >some>>ereas where I can participate. These are as follows: > >>> > >>>1. My area of work is corpus (both written and spoken) generation > >in>>Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource > >generation and>>lexicography. I find some to be useful for Indic > >Computing group.>> > >>>2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have > >started>>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It > >is near>>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old > >and new)>>related with this field. > >>> > >>>3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of > >speech>>corpus for Indian languages which can be further > >transliterated,>>transcripted and annotated following a national > >standard - to be > designed > >>>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong > initiation. > >>> > >>>4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists > >communities, I>>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students > >to join in the > team > >>>to work together. > >>> > >>>Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. > >>> > >>>With best wishes, > >>> > >>>Niladri, > >>>========== > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > >>>% DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > > >>>% MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > > >>>% Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > > >>>% Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > > >>>% Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > >>>% Office Address: % > > >>>% =============== % > > >>>% Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > > >>>% Indian Statistical Institute % > > >>>% 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > > >>>% Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > > >>>% ======================================================% > > >>>% Telegram: STATISTICA % > > >>>% Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > > >>>% Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > > >>>% Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > > >>>% Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > > >>>% FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Indic-computing-users mailing list > http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ > Ind...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-users > [Other Indic-Computing mailing lists: -devel, -standards, -announce] |
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From: Vijay P. S. A. <vi...@ek...> - 2002-10-05 08:59:46
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Hi, This is for attention for the groups particularly interested to work on speech technology for Indian languages & development of corpus. Let me introduce to the group Prof. Niladri Sekhar Dash of ISI Kolkatta, who is working on development of corpus (both written and spoken) generation in Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource generation and lexicography. As this was one of the identified gap at the workshop and we had only Kokila (& Ravikant) there to represent linguists. I had been in touch with Prof. Dash in post workshop communication and he offer to be part of the group and take up some responsibility in his domain areas, besides bringing in other colleagues from ISI to join in to contribute to Indic-Computing. I have suggested Prof. Dash to take intiative in this area and help to develop this group. I would suggest members interested in corpus building to get in touch with Prof. dash. I am including the mails exchnaged with him as under. best vijay Cc: Prof. Dash may I request you to kindly join Indic-Computing mailing lists, you can go to http://indic-computing.sourceforge.net/ to subscribe Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: >Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, > >Nice to hear you. I will be happy to join the group and think myself >fortunate that I can serve with others in the team for common couse of our >nation. > >Today, I had a discussion regarding your conference minutes with my HoD, >Prof. B.B. Chaudhuri who lamented that he did not prior information about >the conference. Otherwise, he might have joined it. Meanwhile, he had a >meeting with Pat Hall and Durgesh Rao at Berlin where he had some feed >backs about the conference. > >In fact, we have been doing researches in many areas of language >technology (e.g., OCR, spell-checker, morphological >processor, speech synthesis, Information retrieval, document >processing, font designing, MRDs, etc.) for Bangla and other languages. >All these people along with their works can probably join Indic Computing >to achieve better results. If your group likes then I can approach them to >think about it. > >With best wishes, > >Niladri >====== > > > > >On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya wrote: > >>Dear Dr. Dash, >> >>Thanks for your mail and support, we would be very happy if you join the >>Indic-Computing effort, the community which has come together is looking >>forward to guidance from senior people like you. Your support is much >>required and as the areas identified by you in which you would be able >>to contribute had been one of the major areas of concerns amongst the >>participants at the worksop, I think people would look forward to all >>possible help. >> >>Alow me to post your mail to the Indic computing mailing list, i hope >>people owho are working in localisation and developing lexical resources >>woould get back to you for your inputs on the work that they are doing. >> >><<2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have started >>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It is near >>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old and new) >>related with this field.>> >> >> >>The Handbook that you are making could also be merged with the one we >>already are planning such that developers and people working in the area >>can have acccess to all the possible resources. This is an execellent >>direction aken by you, we on the other hand are trying to begin in this >>direction for the technical handbook. >> >><<3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of speech >>corpus for Indian languages which can be further transliterated, >>transcripted and annotated following a national standard - to be designed >>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong initiation.>> >> >>I think this would be perfect, I think we can involve all the people working in this area to organise themsleves, could I also suggest foor a small workshop of developers and experts in this area, as the one suggested by us for OTF. >> >><<4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists communities, I >>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students to join in the team >>to work together.>> >> >>I think if you can coordiante this effort and if we can form a team, it would be wornderful, I would infact request you to join in the Indic computing list and offer your help. I shall also post (subject to your confirmation) your mail at the list. >> >><<Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. >> >>With best wishes,>> >> >>I think we have a lot oof value to add in terms oof standardization and developing resources for enabling computing. Your help would be very useful. I look forwward to your confirmation so that II can introduce your maiil to the group and then start the process of group formation in this critical area. >> >>Regards >> >>vijay >> >> >> >>Niladri Sekhar Dash wrote: >> >>>Dear Vijay Pratap Singh Aditya, >>> >>>Thanks for your mail. Let me inform you that I went through the >>>"Action points Indic Computing Workshop September 2002" and found some >>>ereas where I can participate. These are as follows: >>> >>>1. My area of work is corpus (both written and spoken) generation in >>>Indian languages, language processing, lexical resource generation and >>>lexicography. I find some to be useful for Indic Computing group. >>> >>>2. Regarding Handbook writing, I can inform you that I have started >>>writing a book on corpus generation in Indian languages. It is near >>>completion. This can be a good resource for the people (old and new) >>>related with this field. >>> >>>3. If needed I can probably initiate efforts for generation of speech >>>corpus for Indian languages which can be further transliterated, >>>transcripted and annotated following a national standard - to be designed >>>by the experts. This area is still unexplored and needs strong initiation. >>> >>>4. Regarding coordination and interaction with lunguists communities, I >>>can ask some of my teachers, colleagues and students to join in the team >>>to work together. >>> >>>Kindly, let me know your views on these issues. Thanks. >>> >>>With best wishes, >>> >>>Niladri, >>>========== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >>>% DR. NILADRI SEKHAR DASH % > >>>% MA(CU,Ind),NLP(IITK,Ind),PhD(CU,Ind) % > >>>% Linguist (Corpus Linguistics and Language Technology) % > >>>% Consultant (TDIL: MIT, Govt. of India) % > >>>% Consultant (SCiLaHLT: ASI@IT&C, European Commission) % > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >>>% Office Address: % > >>>% =============== % > >>>% Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition Unit % > >>>% Indian Statistical Institute % > >>>% 203, Barrakpore Trunk Road % > >>>% Kolkata 700108, West Bengal, INDIA % > >>>% ======================================================% > >>>% Telegram: STATISTICA % > >>>% Phone: (91)(33)578-1832/577-8085/577-2088 % > >>>% Extn.: 2850/2852/2858 % > >>>% Direct line: (91)(33)578-1832 % > >>>% Residential Phone: (91)(33)477-3337 % > >>>% FAX: (91)(33)5776680/5773035 % > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<ni...@is...> % > >>>% Email: N.S.Dash<nil...@ho...> % > >>>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >>> > >>> > >>> |
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From: Keyur S. <key...@ya...> - 2002-10-04 12:13:45
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Hello, I have discussed and finalized the date and time for open discusion with Ms. Apurva Joshi. Interested people are invited for the discussion and Q&A session. Date : Tuesday, October 8, 2002 Time : 3:00 PM Venue : Lecture Theatre, NCST NCST's address: National Centre for Software Technology Opp. to Juhu Supreme Shopping Centre, Gulmohar Cross Road No. 9, Near JVPD Scheme, Juhu, Andheri(W), Mumbai - 400 049 Tel: 6201606 Ext: 323 PS : I insisted her to give seminar and asked her whether NCST can make resources available to her. But she wants to refer some papers @ microsoft which is not possible now. Anyway, I hope you all will enjoy this discussion. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com |
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From: Rajkumar S <ra...@li...> - 2002-10-04 07:17:17
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Baiju M said: > Now I decided to make a patch accoring to the GPLed > malayalam.ttf > TTF font, it has all the glyphs recomented in TDIL document. Ok good, go ahead. raj |
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From: Baiju M <mal...@ya...> - 2002-10-04 04:19:15
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--- Rajkumar S <ra...@li...> wrote: > Guntupalli Karunakar said: > > > You need to ask the module designer , he has probably used > some font > > available on sun platforms. > > It is Prabath Hegde, I have been trying to get more info about > it from > him, but he has not responded after the initial mail. Now I decided to make a patch accoring to the GPLed malayalam.ttf TTF font, it has all the glyphs recomented in TDIL document. Regards, Baiju M ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com |
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From: Rajkumar S <ra...@li...> - 2002-10-03 16:16:15
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Guntupalli Karunakar said: > You need to ask the module designer , he has probably used some font > available on sun platforms. It is Prabath Hegde, I have been trying to get more info about it from him, but he has not responded after the initial mail. I have not seen any opentype code so far in the mozilla. raj |
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From: Guntupalli K. <kar...@fr...> - 2002-10-03 14:20:00
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 05:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Baiju M <mal...@ya...> wrote: > Hi, > Now mozilla with hindi support got compiled for me, But it > use sun's font encoding. From where I can get information about > that encoding, I am trying to add support for Malayalam, but if > I can get ifo about that encoding. I can convert malayalam.ttf > font into that encoding and make big tables for rendering and > substitution features as done in pango OpenType module. > You need to ask the module designer , he has probably used some font available on sun platforms. There have been long threads on Mozilla i18n & l10n lists on Indic issues, and it always boiled down to lack of font standard ( font standard here means a standardized glyph set & a suitable encoding scheme for it ). Ironically even after having opentype fonts we still won't be having a font standard. Regards, Karunakar |
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