[ icewm-Bugs-1069868 ] Artwiz Snap font with xfreetype - SuSE 9.1

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Bugs item #1069868, was opened at 2004-11-19 19:05
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Category: verify-fixed
Group: appearance
Status: Open
Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Marko Macek (captnmark)
Summary: Artwiz Snap font with xfreetype - SuSE 9.1

Initial Comment:

I am using SuSE Linux 9.1, intel32, with gcc 3.3.3 and associated 
tools.  I use the SuSE-supplied XFree86, with all updates, and 
neither KDE nor Gnome.  I boot to runlevel 3 and run startx from 
the command line, with icewmbg and exec icewm in ~/.xinitrc.

I downloaded the icewm-1.2.7 source from sourceforge.  I have built 
icewm-1.2.7 a number of times, with different configuration flags.  
The latest configuration was simply:
sh configure --with-xpm=/usr/X11R6

I like the Infadel2 theme (somewhat modified), which includes and 
uses the Artwiz Snap font.  But Snap is not rendered by icewm 
under any build I've tried in which xfreetype is enabled (explicitly or 
implicitly).  It did render when I built with --disable-xfreetype and --
enable-corefonts, and used the non-Xft format for fonts in default.
theme.

When I add the Infadel2 directory to the font paths in XF86Config 
and fontconfig's local.conf, _other_ X applications -- e.g., xfontsel, 
nedit, and xterm -fn *snap* (but not -fa snap) -- _do_ recognize and 
render Snap, but still icewm does not.  I have even tried creating an 
old-style ~/.xftconfig file identifying the Infadel2 directory, but it 
doesn't help.

If I'm the only person having this problem, I must be doing 
something wrong -- wouldn't be the first time. :)

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-20 14:57

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captnmark:

Thank you for responding, and for cleaning up some of the mess I made on 
your board with the duplicate posts.  From now on I'll do my composing 
and editing outside the form, and paste in the final product. :)

I am about to conclude that my problem with the Snap font is something 
unique to SuSE, although if so it's odd that other SuSE users haven't 
reported it.  It's not only Snap -- most other .pcf[.gz] fonts also fail to 
display in my icewm with xfreetype enabled.  (Helvetica seems to be an 
exception, but it may be aliasing to Arial under fonts.conf.)

It's not a serious inconvenience, as many other available fonts work fine 
with the Xft-style designation in default.theme.  It has just been a 
tantalizing frustration that keeps me trying to solve it.  I certainly won't 
abandon icewm, which I've been using happily for many years.  (Please 
never allow it to become dependent on KDE or Gnome!)

This quirk probably does not merit a lot of attention, but here is the 
information you asked for (and then some). 

I am using, from SuSE 9.1 i586:

kernel: 2.6.5-7.111-default
freetype2-2.1.7-53
freetype2-devel-2.1.7-53
fontconfig-2.2.92-20040221-28
fontconfig-devel-2.2.92-20040221-28
glibc-2.3.3-98
glibc-devel-2.3.3-98
gcc-3.3.3-41
gcc-c++-3.3.3-41

My latest build procedure for icewm-1.2.17:

rm /usr/local/bin/ice*
(perhaps I should have deleted /usr/local/share/icewm as well, but all those 
files appear to be overwritten with each install)
rm -R /usr/src/nonpackages/icewm-1.2.17
cd /usr/src/nonpackages
tar -x -z -f icewm-1.2.17.tgz
cd icewm-1.2.17
sh configure --with-xpm=/usr/X11R6
make
make install

For extra measure, I also ran "ldconfig" and "fc-cache -f" afterwards.

I will attach a tgz containing config.log, config.status, and Makefile from 
this build.  (No, apparently I cannot attach a file when adding a comment 
to an existing item.)

Regarding modifications to the theme, I have tried not only my modified 
themes, but the unaltered Infadel2 theme and the default preferences file 
from 1.2.17, with no success in displaying the Snap font.  There are no 
error or warning messages -- icewm simply displays a fallback font instead 
of Snap.

covexx:

Thank you for your suggestions.  I have read the FAQ entry, over and 
over. :)  I am aware that in recent versions of icewm only the Xtf-style 
font designations will work when xfreetype is enabled.  For me, these 
designations are not working for Snap or other .pcf fonts, although they do 
work for truetype.  The result is the same when I load the unmodified 
Infadel2 theme from the latest source.  As I mentioned in my first post, I 
once compiled with xfreetype explicitly disabled and corefonts explicitly 
enabled, and in that case I could use Snap via the traditional XLFD-style 
designations.

If other SuSE users have not experienced this phenomenon, it's probably 
due to some SuSE file or package missing from my rather minimalist 
installation.  I also use icewm-1.2.17 (installed from the FreeBSD binary 
package), with my modified themes, on a FreeBSD 4.10 system, and it 
displays Snap with no problem.  The BSD package is built with xfreetype, 
and extras like guievents and gradients -- yes, I tried a SuSE build with 
those extras, with no effect on Snap (predictably :)).

Thanks again to both of you!

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-20 14:57

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captnmark:

Thank you for responding, and for cleaning up some of the mess I made on 
your board with the duplicate posts.  From now on I'll do my composing 
and editing outside the form, and paste in the final product. :)

I am about to conclude that my problem with the Snap font is something 
unique to SuSE, although if so it's odd that other SuSE users haven't 
reported it.  It's not only Snap -- most other .pcf[.gz] fonts also fail to 
display in my icewm with xfreetype enabled.  (Helvetica seems to be an 
exception, but it may be aliasing to Arial under fonts.conf.)

It's not a serious inconvenience, as many other available fonts work fine 
with the Xft-style designation in default.theme.  It has just been a 
tantalizing frustration that keeps me trying to solve it.  I certainly won't 
abandon icewm, which I've been using happily for many years.  (Please 
never allow it to become dependent on KDE or Gnome!)

This quirk probably does not merit a lot of attention, but here is the 
information you asked for (and then some). 

I am using, from SuSE 9.1 i586:

kernel: 2.6.5-7.111-default
freetype2-2.1.7-53
freetype2-devel-2.1.7-53
fontconfig-2.2.92-20040221-28
fontconfig-devel-2.2.92-20040221-28
glibc-2.3.3-98
glibc-devel-2.3.3-98
gcc-3.3.3-41
gcc-c++-3.3.3-41

My latest build procedure for icewm-1.2.17:

rm /usr/local/bin/ice*
(perhaps I should have deleted /usr/local/share/icewm as well, but all those 
files appear to be overwritten with each install)
rm -R /usr/src/nonpackages/icewm-1.2.17
cd /usr/src/nonpackages
tar -x -z -f icewm-1.2.17.tgz
cd icewm-1.2.17
sh configure --with-xpm=/usr/X11R6
make
make install

For extra measure, I also ran "ldconfig" and "fc-cache -f" afterwards.

I will attach a tgz containing config.log, config.status, and Makefile from 
this build.  (No, apparently I cannot attach a file when adding a comment 
to an existing item.)

Regarding modifications to the theme, I have tried not only my modified 
themes, but the unaltered Infadel2 theme and the default preferences file 
from 1.2.17, with no success in displaying the Snap font.  There are no 
error or warning messages -- icewm simply displays a fallback font instead 
of Snap.

covexx:

Thank you for your suggestions.  I have read the FAQ entry, over and 
over. :)  I am aware that in recent versions of icewm only the Xtf-style 
font designations will work when xfreetype is enabled.  For me, these 
designations are not working for Snap or other .pcf fonts, although they do 
work for truetype.  The result is the same when I load the unmodified 
Infadel2 theme from the latest source.  As I mentioned in my first post, I 
once compiled with xfreetype explicitly disabled and corefonts explicitly 
enabled, and in that case I could use Snap via the traditional XLFD-style 
designations.

If other SuSE users have not experienced this phenomenon, it's probably 
due to some SuSE file or package missing from my rather minimalist 
installation.  I also use icewm-1.2.17 (installed from the FreeBSD binary 
package), with my modified themes, on a FreeBSD 4.10 system, and it 
displays Snap with no problem.  The BSD package is built with xfreetype, 
and extras like guievents and gradients -- yes, I tried a SuSE build with 
those extras, with no effect on Snap (predictably :)).

Thanks again to both of you!

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Comment By: Adam Pribyl (covexx)
Date: 2004-11-20 02:31

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I assume this is a problem of theme. IceWM uses two
different types of font definitions: 

http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-12.html#ss12.8

be sure the theme has the Xft type of definition included.
Infadel2 from icewm sources should have them.

This works for me too.

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Comment By: Marko Macek (captnmark)
Date: 2004-11-19 23:26

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Which version of xfreetype/fontconfig are you using?

There is code in icewm to add the theme directory (where the
font 
is) to the font path (for xfreetype >= 2.0.0) and it works
for me.

Perhaps your modified theme needs to merge some changes from 
the icewm version due to font configuration changes/fixed.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-19 19:15

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1)  Please forgive the previous partial posts.  I'm not sure how I submitted 
them accidentally while editing the form.

2)  The version I'm using is icewm-1.2.17, not 1.2.7.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-19 19:14

Message:
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1)  Please forgive the previous partial posts.  I'm not sure how I submitted 
them accidentally while editing the form.

2)  The version I'm using is icewm-1.2.17, not 1.2.7.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-19 19:14

Message:
Logged In: NO 

1)  Please forgive the previous partial posts.  I'm not sure how I submitted 
them accidentally while editing the form.

2)  The version I'm using is icewm-1.2.17, not 1.2.7.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-19 19:13

Message:
Logged In: NO 

1)  Please forgive the previous partial posts -- I'm not sure how I 
submitted them while editing.

2)  The version I'm using is icewm-1.2.17, not 1.27.

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2004-11-19 19:12

Message:
Logged In: NO 

1)  Please forgive the previous partial posts -- I'm not sure how I 
submitted them while editing.

2)  The version I'm using is icewm-1.2.17, not 1.27.

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