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Re: [Gwc-general] problems compiling 0.19-8

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

There is a known problem with compiling 0.19-8 if you
don't have the fftw 3.x libraries.  I have a simple fix, which
I will try to get posted tonight.

jw

Rooot wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 04 September 2003 08:21 schrieb Howard Sanner:
> 
>>	I'm having troubles compiling gwc 0.19-8. gcc complains that a
>>couple of identifiers are undeclared in fft_remove_noise() in
>>file denoise.c.
> 
> 
> I got exactly the same error on a gentoo-1.2 system, 0.19-7 compiles 
> fine.
> 
> Roland

Re: [Gwc-general] problems compiling 0.19-8

[Rooot <ro...@gm...>]

Am Donnerstag 04 September 2003 08:21 schrieb Howard Sanner:
> 	I'm having troubles compiling gwc 0.19-8. gcc complains that a
> couple of identifiers are undeclared in fft_remove_noise() in
> file denoise.c.

I got exactly the same error on a gentoo-1.2 system, 0.19-7 compiles=20
fine.

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[Gwc-general] problems compiling 0.19-8

[Howard S. <fla...@mi...>]

	I'm having troubles compiling gwc 0.19-8. gcc complains that a 
couple of identifiers are undeclared in fft_remove_noise() in 
file denoise.c.

	The attached file gives the compiler's output.

	Thanks.

					Howard Sanner
					fla...@mi...

Re: [Gwc-general] gwc-0.18

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

The new gwc-0.19-8.tgz file is on sourceforge.  This one looks ok.  If=20
you are downloading via a web browser, make sure you get the new one.=20
Sometimes the "download managers" in mozilla etc will keep the old=20
corrupted copy in their caches.

jw

Jeff Welty wrote:
> The tgz file from source forge is corrupted, I am re-uploading it again.
>=20
> Thanks Alexandre!
>=20
> jw
>=20
> Alexandre Thieme Reis wrote:
>=20
>> error:
>>
>> tar zxvf gwc-0.19-8.tgz
>>
>> gwc-0.19-8/
>> gwc-0.19-8/aclocal.m4
>> tar: Passando para o pr=F3ximo cabe=E7alho (passing to the next header=
)
>> tar: Arquivo-tar cont=E9m cabe=E7alhos base-64 obsoletos (header base-=
64=20
>> obsoletes)
>>
>> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
>> tar: Processo filho terminou com estado 1 (process child exit with=20
>> status 1 )
>> tar: Erro s=F3 assinalado no fim da execu=E7=E3o ( error at the end of=
=20
>> execution )
>> [root@reis download]#
>>
>> excuse my poor english.
>>
>> Alexandre Thieme Reis.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Gwc-general] gwc-0.18

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

The tgz file from source forge is corrupted, I am re-uploading it again.

Thanks Alexandre!

jw

Alexandre Thieme Reis wrote:
> error:
>=20
> tar zxvf gwc-0.19-8.tgz
>=20
> gwc-0.19-8/
> gwc-0.19-8/aclocal.m4
> tar: Passando para o pr=F3ximo cabe=E7alho (passing to the next header)
> tar: Arquivo-tar cont=E9m cabe=E7alhos base-64 obsoletos (header base-6=
4=20
> obsoletes)
>=20
> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
> tar: Processo filho terminou com estado 1 (process child exit with=20
> status 1 )
> tar: Erro s=F3 assinalado no fim da execu=E7=E3o ( error at the end of=20
> execution )
> [root@reis download]#
>=20
> excuse my poor english.
>=20
> Alexandre Thieme Reis.
>=20
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Re: [Gwc-general] gwc-0.18

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

Alexandre,

It works fine for me.  Does anyone else have this problem?

jw

Alexandre Thieme Reis wrote:
> error:
>=20
> tar zxvf gwc-0.19-8.tgz
>=20
> gwc-0.19-8/
> gwc-0.19-8/aclocal.m4
> tar: Passando para o pr=F3ximo cabe=E7alho (passing to the next header)
> tar: Arquivo-tar cont=E9m cabe=E7alhos base-64 obsoletos (header base-6=
4=20
> obsoletes)
>=20
> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
> tar: Processo filho terminou com estado 1 (process child exit with=20
> status 1 )
> tar: Erro s=F3 assinalado no fim da execu=E7=E3o ( error at the end of=20
> execution )
> [root@reis download]#
>=20
> excuse my poor english.
>=20
> Alexandre Thieme Reis.
>=20
>=20
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[Gwc-general] error in tgz file: gwc-0.18-9.tgz

[Alexandre T. R. <th...@te...>]

the gwc-0.19-8.tgz do not descompact

tar zxvf gwc-0.19-8.tgz
gwc-0.19-8/
gwc-0.19-8/aclocal.m4
tar: Passando para o próximo cabeçalho (passing to the next header)
tar: Arquivo-tar contém cabeçalhos base-64 obsoletos (tar file with 
obsolete header base-64 )

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Processo filho terminou com estado 1 (child process end with status 1)
tar: Erro só assinalado no fim da execução (error at the end of execution)

[Gwc-general] gwc-0.18

[Alexandre T. R. <th...@te...>]

error:

tar zxvf gwc-0.19-8.tgz

gwc-0.19-8/
gwc-0.19-8/aclocal.m4
tar: Passando para o próximo cabeçalho (passing to the next header)
tar: Arquivo-tar contém cabeçalhos base-64 obsoletos (header base-64 
obsoletes)

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Processo filho terminou com estado 1 (process child exit with 
status 1 )
tar: Erro só assinalado no fim da execução ( error at the end of execution )
[root@reis download]#

excuse my poor english.

Alexandre Thieme Reis.

[Gwc-general] 0.19-8 released

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

A million thanks to Frank Freudenberg for providing the code to 
interface with the FFTW 3.x libraries!

A bugfix (where declicking to the end of the file would sometimes 
crash), hopefully -- your reports are very useful...

I started working on the online documentation.  It is not complete, but 
it's getting there.  You will need to do a "make install" as super user 
to get the online help functional.

I'm also working on separating out the OSS sound driver dependent code 
into a audio_oss.c module.  The libsndfile stuff will live in the 
audio_sndfile.c module.  These are not implemented yet, but live in the 
source tree.  Eventually, there will be an audio_alsa.c, and for those 
folks in OS X land, some other folks are going to start working on the
audio API for OS X.

Enjoy -- and keep those bug reports rolling in!

Cheers,
Jeff Welty

[Gwc-general] gwc 0.19-7 released

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

Thanks to several of you who have reported back with bugs!

I'm squashing them one by one.  There are several still unresolved, but
this release takes care of the most dire of them (I hope).

- This should now compile cleanly for everyone.

- Fixed a bug in markers, where they were not working.  There may still 
be a problem with markers when reading audiofiles opened by previous 
versions of GWC, I did not have a chance to follow up on that one.

I'm off for a small vacation.  If you find a bug, please send in a report!

jw

Re: [Gwc-general] gwc 0.19-2 crash problems

[Howard S. <fla...@mi...>]

Jeff Welty wrote:

> 
> I did nothing in 0.19-5 that would fix this problem.  If you would, do
> a test for me -- highlight as you did before, but don't highlight all 
> the way to the end of the wavfile, leave a hundred or so samples 
> unselected.


	Thanks for the quick response. I left the end of the side 
unhighlighted and gwc 0.19-2 didn't crash. I should add that the 
WAV files have some silence at the end after the record side 
ends. I have never highlighted more than just a little of this 
silence (so as to be sure to include all of the signal from the 
disc). The samples I left unselected that caused the program not 
to crash are part of the 78 rpm disc. (If that isn't clear, I'll 
keep trying till it is.)

	Thanks again for getting right on this. I'm looking forward to 
trying gwc 0.19-6!

					Howard Sanner
					fla...@mi...

Re: [Gwc-general] gwc 0.19-2 crash problems

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

Howard,

Thanks for the bug report.

I did nothing in 0.19-5 that would fix this problem.  If you would, do
a test for me -- highlight as you did before, but don't highlight all 
the way to the end of the wavfile, leave a hundred or so samples unselected.

gwc-0.19-5 included the gtk.h file as part of the progress meter for the 
encoding.  I'll check on that.

jw

Howard Sanner wrote:
>     OK, since I can't get gwc 0.19-5 to compile, I'll describe the 
> problems I'm having with 0.19-2.
> 
>     gwc crashes at the end of two different WAV files I have. I can 
> highlight either the whole file or just the last few seconds, click on 
> strong or weak declick, and, when it reaches the end of the file it 
> crashes with the error message:
> 
> "solve.c", line 87: singular matrix in function Usolve()
> Sorry, too many errors: 100
> Exiting program
> 
> Both WAV files are transfers of 78 rpm discs. One is a fairly noisy home 
> acetate; the other is a near mint, extremely clean & quiet Columbia.
> 
>     I'll be glad to supply a CD-ROM of these WAV files if needed, or to 
> try any experiments to narrow down the problem.
> 
>     Thanks.
> 
>                     Howard Sanner
>                     fla...@mi...
> 
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Re: [Gwc-general] another case of problems compiling gwc-0.19-5

[John C. <ci...@pu...>]

Howard,

I see. I added the {} in gwc.c and then got by with only a couple 
of minor errors. Then got the error in audio_util.c. I added the 
{} there too, and the next thing was a series of errors in 
encode.c, which I likewise fixed with the {}. Strangely it went on 
and completed the rest of the files. I didn't get the gtk.h not 
found error, it just finished! I ran ./gwc and it came up. I 
haven't used it yet because it's getting way late. I'll try it 
over the weekend.
I have gtk 1.2 and 2.0 installed, if that makes a difference. Both 
include a gtk.h file.

Good Luck,

John Cirillo

Howard Sanner wrote:
> John Cirillo wrote:
> 
>> I know you love getting these. I can't tell what is failing this time. 
>> gwc-0.19-2 still compiles fine, and also gwc-0.19-3 with the minor mod 
>> I reported a few months ago. But gwc-0.19-5 just pukes when it hits 
>> gwc.c. Here is what it complains about:
>>
>> [jcirillo@john1 gwc-0.19-5]$ make
>> cc -O3 -Wall -DHAVE_FFTW -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 `gnome-config --cflags 
>> gnome gnomeui`   -c -o gwc.o gwc.c
>> gwc.c: In function `estimate':
>> gwc.c:508: parse error before `long'
>> gwc.c:509: `first' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gwc.c:509: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
>> gwc.c:509: for each function it appears in.)
>> gwc.c:509: `last' undeclared (first use in this function)
> 
> 
> 
>     This is the problem I mentioned.
> 
>     The blocks in which these variables are declared need to be enclosed 
> in a set of {}. Put a { before long and put a } at the end of the block. 
> Continue likewise for all the errors listed.
> 
>     When you get done, gwc.c will compile clean, but you'll get the same 
> kinds of error messages (just fewer of them!) for audio_util.c. Fix 
> audio_util.c in the same manner. After that is when I get the gtk.h not 
> found error, and at that point I gave up.
> 
>     It is nice to know that I'm not the only one having troubles, though.
> 
>                     Howard Sanner
>                     fla...@mi...
> 
> 

[Gwc-general] another case of problems compiling gwc-0.19-5

[John C. <ci...@pu...>]

I know you love getting these. I can't tell what is failing this 
time. gwc-0.19-2 still compiles fine, and also gwc-0.19-3 with the 
minor mod I reported a few months ago. But gwc-0.19-5 just pukes 
when it hits gwc.c. Here is what it complains about:

[jcirillo@john1 gwc-0.19-5]$ make
cc -O3 -Wall -DHAVE_FFTW -mcpu=i686 -march=i686 `gnome-config 
--cflags gnome gnomeui`   -c -o gwc.o gwc.c
gwc.c: In function `estimate':
gwc.c:508: parse error before `long'
gwc.c:509: `first' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c:509: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
gwc.c:509: for each function it appears in.)
gwc.c:509: `last' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `toggle_marker_at':
gwc.c:931: parse error before `int'
gwc.c:934: `i' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c:937: `j' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `zoom_out':
gwc.c:978: parse error before `long'
gwc.c:980: `w' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `zoom_in':
gwc.c:1002: parse error before `long'
gwc.c:1004: `w' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `toggle_start_marker':
gwc.c:1024: parse error before `long'
gwc.c:1025: `first' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c:1025: `last' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `toggle_end_marker':
gwc.c:1037: parse error before `long'
gwc.c:1038: `first' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c:1038: `last' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `clear_markers_in_view':
gwc.c:1051: parse error before `long'
gwc.c:1054: `first' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c:1054: `last' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c:1056: `i' undeclared (first use in this function)
gwc.c: In function `main':
gwc.c:1850: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`gnome_window_icon_set_default_from_file'
make: *** [gwc.o] Error 1
[jcirillo@john1 gwc-0.19-5]$

I am stuck this time.  It's not a big deal for me, as 0.19-3 works 
fine. The way I am doing it, I edit all of the wav files 
separately and then run an autolame batch externally to get the 
mp3s, so this isn't stopping my show...
But it deserves to be reported.

John Cirillo

[Gwc-general] gwc 0.19-2 crash problems

[Howard S. <fla...@mi...>]

	OK, since I can't get gwc 0.19-5 to compile, I'll describe the 
problems I'm having with 0.19-2.

	gwc crashes at the end of two different WAV files I have. I can 
highlight either the whole file or just the last few seconds, 
click on strong or weak declick, and, when it reaches the end of 
the file it crashes with the error message:

"solve.c", line 87: singular matrix in function Usolve()
Sorry, too many errors: 100
Exiting program

Both WAV files are transfers of 78 rpm discs. One is a fairly 
noisy home acetate; the other is a near mint, extremely clean & 
quiet Columbia.

	I'll be glad to supply a CD-ROM of these WAV files if needed, or 
to try any experiments to narrow down the problem.

	Thanks.

					Howard Sanner
					fla...@mi...

[Gwc-general] problem compiling gwc 0.19-5

[Howard S. <fla...@mi...>]

Greetings,

	I decided to download gwc 0.19-5 to see if it fixed problems I was 
having with 0.19-2. I couldn't get it to compile.

	I'm running Mandrake 8.1 with gcc 2.96 20000731. I have 
successfully compiled and run gwc 0.19-2. gwc 0.19-5 will not 
compile. The compiler complains about undeclared variables. It 
seems not to like variables declared in blocks that do not have a 
{ immediately before them. This occurs in gwc.c and audio_util.c. 
I fixed this, which cured that complaint. However, later the 
compiler complained that it could not locate gtk.h, a complaint 
it doesn't have with 0.19-2.

	What's changed to require this header?

	Thanks for any light you can shed.

					Howard Sanner
					fla...@mi...

[Gwc-general] Version 0.19-5 is released

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

Go try it out :-)  The OGG and MP3 encoding is complete.  The 
gwc_help.html file is now up to date (report any errors please).

Jeff Welty

Re: [Gwc-general] Re: From Vinyl to Digital -- Linux Journal article

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

I think you two have said most of the relevant stuff, but I'll add a few 
  comments:

1) The lame dependency appeared in 0.19-3, which I at least declared to 
be experimental.  Charles Morgan was/is working on creating mp3's or 
ogg's directly from GWC, and that's what this is all about.  Charles had 
the basic pipe working, but I wanted to see if we could get a progress 
meter for user feedback, and he was working on that, and trying to find 
a job too.  I hope no news means he's busy with a new job!

2) Documentation.  It doesn't completely suck, but it's close.  There is 
a help file -- gwc_help.html that comes along in the main source 
directory.  I do believe it's up to date as of 0.19-2.  It pretty much 
covers the basics.  I think what Tim started here could turn into a 
tutorial, which is sorely needed.  The gwc_help.html could also use a 
nicer face on it.  I offer no excuses here, only that this is my hobby...

3) Libsndfile and fftw libs have been changing while I have done 
basically nothing with GWC.  And so fftw 3.x doesn't work at all with 
GWC (they completely changed the API, for the better, but I haven't 
caught up with them).  I think GWC is compatible with the newest 
releases of libsndfile.

4) If you want to start playing an arbitrary portion of the wavfile, 
just highlight it, hit "play"...

5) Song Markers.  This are really, really cool.  With these, you can 
identify those sections of the audio you want to identify as individual 
tracks for cdrdao.  You can then do a File->"Create cdrdao toc as". 
This means you can work the entire side of one LP, or cassette tape at 
once, then instead of literally splitting out the individual tracks 
manually as separate wavfiles, you just identify where those tracks are 
for cdrdao.   Get at those from the "Markers" menu.

6) Selection Markers.  These have changed since the documentation.  I 
attached the new gwc_help.htlm file.

I think that's all.  For now.  Maybe this winter is the winter to do 
some more serious work on the documentation.   Not much GWC action 
during the summers :-)

Cheers,
Jeff Welty


Tim Wunder wrote:
> Hi Tom.
> I'm currently using 0.19-0, and it compiled fine on my copy of RHL 8.0.
> I have libsndfile-1.0.1-1 and lame-3.93.1-0.fdr.2.rh80.
> 
> To extract tracks is easy. Just mark the beginning and ending tracks, 
> highlight in between (it'll kinda jump to the markers making selection easy 
> -- so you don't have to be real precise with the mouse, just get close to the 
> marker), then Save Selection As whatever .wav filename you want. Here's how I 
> do it:
> 
> Open the WAV .
> Zoom to a section of WAV that's between tracks.
> Listen to the section to determine where the song should begin, then highlight 
> that section so the beginning of the highlight is at the beginning of the 
> song. Then click Markers-Toggle beginning marker (or press B) to mark a 
> beginning of a song.
> Do the same to the end of the song.
> Zoom out so that the full song is in view
> Highlight between the markers to select the song.
> Click File-Save Selection As
> 
> I just use the Beginning and Ending markers, as I haven't quite figured out 
> how to use the Song Markers yet, myself.
> 
> To play just a section of the WAV, soom in or hightight the part you want to 
> play. GWC will play the highlighted section, if nothing is highlighted, then 
> it will play what's on the view pane.
> 
> And, as with all small Open Source projects, documentation is problematic. But 
> there's a mailing list now, and Jeff Welty, the developer, is a pretty good 
> guy when it comes to responding to questions and suggestions. In fact, I'm 
> taking the liberty of CC'ing gwc...@li..., in case one 
> of the other GWC users has a better answer for you...
> 
> Regards, 
> Tim
> 
> On Sunday 17 August 2003 9:08 am, someone claiming to be Tom B. Younker wrote:
> 
>>Tim:
>>
>>Sorry for the delay.  Just yesterday, I got down and installed GWC.
>> Putting it on the same system that I currently use for dubbing was a
>>bit of work, but the application looks very promising once installed.
>> The box runs GNOME on Debian Woody, and GWC didn't like the stable or
>>testing versions of libsndfile --- I resorted to compiling from source.
>> It also didn't mention LAME as a dependency.  Apparently Debian has
>>problems with the licensing, but I easily found it on apt-get.org.
>>
>>The package said it came with doc files, but I couldn't find them
>>anywhere.  Actually 0.19.3 wouldn't compile cleanly, so I used 0.19.2.
>> Anyway, by reading the brief instructions on the web site I was able to
>>find my way around.  It's obvious that a lot of work has gone into GWC.
>> What I didn't find in the instructions was your technique for splitting
>>the tracks.  I also was unable to start playback anywhere except the
>>beginning, wanting to chop the end off the last song.  Are there more
>>complete docs available somewhere?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tom
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>----
>>
>>Tim Wunder wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Tom,
>>>Well, two years ago is when I tried gramofile, after getting tired of
>>>dual booting Windows to run CoolEdit (don't even have Windows
>>>installed at home anymore -- this message is coming from a WIn2K box
>>>at work). I was never satisfied with the output. It seemed to denoise
>>>OK, but declicking was problematic. And I never felt I had any
>>>control, especially over sections of a WAV file. It seemed that you
>>>ran gramofile over the entire WAV file, or nothing at all. With GWC, I
>>>can declick and denoise different sections of a WAV differently.
>>>
>>>I found GWC by luck, doing google searches, probly about a year and a
>>>half ago. I found Jeff Welty, the author, to be very amenable to
>>>feedback. He worked long and hard with me when I first started using
>>>it, adding some features I asked for, and debugging playback under KDE
>>>(it is a gnome app, and I usually run KDE).
>>>
>>>The current iteration of GWC provides an easy way to mark tracks
>>>graphically, and save them as separate WAV files. I use the
>>>gnome-sound-recorder to record the WAVs (it has a timer), and then use
>>>GWC to split the file into tracks. Then I open each track and
>>>clean/de-click it. So a GUI WAV capture device is something I really
>>>have no interest in. Of course that doesn't mean that one doesn't
>>>exist...
>>>
>>>FWIW, GWC has become quite fast, much faster than when I first started
>>>using it. I hope you find the time to try it out.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>On 8/12/2003 9:44 AM, someone claiming to be Tom B. Younker wrote:
>>>
>>>>Tim:
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the feedback.  The article is a mixed blessing for me.  I
>>>>wrote it in January after LJ seemed to be in a hurry to have it.
>>>>After submission I got no feedback, or even acknowledgement of
>>>>receipt. Meanwhile, I corresponded with Cliff Johnson, who wrote
>>>>xmcd2make.  He was pleased to hear of a possible article, and wrote a
>>>>newer version of xmcd2make which included some of my suggestions.  Of
>>>>course LJ didn't know this.  Mid-July they asked me to sign papers in
>>>>case they should decide to publish, and I included a note stating
>>>>that the article needed an update as they'd held onto it so long.
>>>>Looks like by the time they received my note, it was too late to make
>>>>changes.  Also, the editing job they did was kind of clumsy, loosing
>>>>the meaning in places...
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, I was not aware of GWC and just found in on SourceForge.
>>>>When I was looking nearly 2 years ago to begin dubbing LPs, I did not
>>>>run across it, and gramofile was the only viable software that I
>>>>found. Apparently it didn't even exist at the time.  My dubbing
>>>>machine is capable of running X, but I do all the processing from the
>>>>command line. However, my Win-oriented friends would not likely have
>>>>the patience to learn the command line procedures, and I've wished
>>>>for a GUI version of the whole process.  GWC fits in the middle, and
>>>>lots of CD burners fit at the end.  If you know of a GUI wav capture
>>>>device that could split the tracks, I'd like to hear about it.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Tom
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>-------
>>>>
>>>>Tim Wunder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I just got my Sept issue of Linux Journal and was surprised, and
>>>>>pleased, to see an article on restoring vinyl LP's to digital
>>>>>format. My
>>>>>first thought was (before actually turning to the article), "cool,
>>>>>Jeff's finally getting some press for GWC!"
>>>>>"Jeff" being Jeff Welty, the author of The Gnome Wave Cleaner,
>>>>>http://gwc.sf.net. Unfortunately, once I turned to your article I saw
>>>>>that it wasn't about GWC at all, but rather gramofile. Now gramofile is
>>>>>a nice app, and I used an incarnation of it a long time ago, before I
>>>>>found out, and started to use, GWC.
>>>>>Which leads me to this e-mail. FWIW, I highly recommend that you check
>>>>>out GWC. It is, in my estimation, a fantastic program. Not to take away
>>>>>from gramofile, but GWC is, for me, so much easier to use, and
>>>>>better at
>>>>>cleaning up pops, clicks and background noise, than gramofile.
>>>>>I hope you get a chance to check it out.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Tim Wunder
>>>>>Baltimore, MD
> 
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[Gwc-general] Re: From Vinyl to Digital -- Linux Journal article

[Tim W. <ti...@th...>]

Hi Tom.
I'm currently using 0.19-0, and it compiled fine on my copy of RHL 8.0.
I have libsndfile-1.0.1-1 and lame-3.93.1-0.fdr.2.rh80.

To extract tracks is easy. Just mark the beginning and ending tracks, 
highlight in between (it'll kinda jump to the markers making selection easy 
-- so you don't have to be real precise with the mouse, just get close to the 
marker), then Save Selection As whatever .wav filename you want. Here's how I 
do it:

Open the WAV .
Zoom to a section of WAV that's between tracks.
Listen to the section to determine where the song should begin, then highlight 
that section so the beginning of the highlight is at the beginning of the 
song. Then click Markers-Toggle beginning marker (or press B) to mark a 
beginning of a song.
Do the same to the end of the song.
Zoom out so that the full song is in view
Highlight between the markers to select the song.
Click File-Save Selection As

I just use the Beginning and Ending markers, as I haven't quite figured out 
how to use the Song Markers yet, myself.

To play just a section of the WAV, soom in or hightight the part you want to 
play. GWC will play the highlighted section, if nothing is highlighted, then 
it will play what's on the view pane.

And, as with all small Open Source projects, documentation is problematic. But 
there's a mailing list now, and Jeff Welty, the developer, is a pretty good 
guy when it comes to responding to questions and suggestions. In fact, I'm 
taking the liberty of CC'ing gwc...@li..., in case one 
of the other GWC users has a better answer for you...

Regards, 
Tim

On Sunday 17 August 2003 9:08 am, someone claiming to be Tom B. Younker wrote:
> Tim:
>
> Sorry for the delay.  Just yesterday, I got down and installed GWC.
>  Putting it on the same system that I currently use for dubbing was a
> bit of work, but the application looks very promising once installed.
>  The box runs GNOME on Debian Woody, and GWC didn't like the stable or
> testing versions of libsndfile --- I resorted to compiling from source.
>  It also didn't mention LAME as a dependency.  Apparently Debian has
> problems with the licensing, but I easily found it on apt-get.org.
>
> The package said it came with doc files, but I couldn't find them
> anywhere.  Actually 0.19.3 wouldn't compile cleanly, so I used 0.19.2.
>  Anyway, by reading the brief instructions on the web site I was able to
> find my way around.  It's obvious that a lot of work has gone into GWC.
>  What I didn't find in the instructions was your technique for splitting
> the tracks.  I also was unable to start playback anywhere except the
> beginning, wanting to chop the end off the last song.  Are there more
> complete docs available somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
> Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> > Well, two years ago is when I tried gramofile, after getting tired of
> > dual booting Windows to run CoolEdit (don't even have Windows
> > installed at home anymore -- this message is coming from a WIn2K box
> > at work). I was never satisfied with the output. It seemed to denoise
> > OK, but declicking was problematic. And I never felt I had any
> > control, especially over sections of a WAV file. It seemed that you
> > ran gramofile over the entire WAV file, or nothing at all. With GWC, I
> > can declick and denoise different sections of a WAV differently.
> >
> > I found GWC by luck, doing google searches, probly about a year and a
> > half ago. I found Jeff Welty, the author, to be very amenable to
> > feedback. He worked long and hard with me when I first started using
> > it, adding some features I asked for, and debugging playback under KDE
> > (it is a gnome app, and I usually run KDE).
> >
> > The current iteration of GWC provides an easy way to mark tracks
> > graphically, and save them as separate WAV files. I use the
> > gnome-sound-recorder to record the WAVs (it has a timer), and then use
> > GWC to split the file into tracks. Then I open each track and
> > clean/de-click it. So a GUI WAV capture device is something I really
> > have no interest in. Of course that doesn't mean that one doesn't
> > exist...
> >
> > FWIW, GWC has become quite fast, much faster than when I first started
> > using it. I hope you find the time to try it out.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> > On 8/12/2003 9:44 AM, someone claiming to be Tom B. Younker wrote:
> >> Tim:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback.  The article is a mixed blessing for me.  I
> >> wrote it in January after LJ seemed to be in a hurry to have it.
> >> After submission I got no feedback, or even acknowledgement of
> >> receipt. Meanwhile, I corresponded with Cliff Johnson, who wrote
> >> xmcd2make.  He was pleased to hear of a possible article, and wrote a
> >> newer version of xmcd2make which included some of my suggestions.  Of
> >> course LJ didn't know this.  Mid-July they asked me to sign papers in
> >> case they should decide to publish, and I included a note stating
> >> that the article needed an update as they'd held onto it so long.
> >> Looks like by the time they received my note, it was too late to make
> >> changes.  Also, the editing job they did was kind of clumsy, loosing
> >> the meaning in places...
> >>
> >> Anyway, I was not aware of GWC and just found in on SourceForge.
> >> When I was looking nearly 2 years ago to begin dubbing LPs, I did not
> >> run across it, and gramofile was the only viable software that I
> >> found. Apparently it didn't even exist at the time.  My dubbing
> >> machine is capable of running X, but I do all the processing from the
> >> command line. However, my Win-oriented friends would not likely have
> >> the patience to learn the command line procedures, and I've wished
> >> for a GUI version of the whole process.  GWC fits in the middle, and
> >> lots of CD burners fit at the end.  If you know of a GUI wav capture
> >> device that could split the tracks, I'd like to hear about it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tom
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>-------
> >>
> >> Tim Wunder wrote:
> >>> I just got my Sept issue of Linux Journal and was surprised, and
> >>> pleased, to see an article on restoring vinyl LP's to digital
> >>> format. My
> >>> first thought was (before actually turning to the article), "cool,
> >>> Jeff's finally getting some press for GWC!"
> >>> "Jeff" being Jeff Welty, the author of The Gnome Wave Cleaner,
> >>> http://gwc.sf.net. Unfortunately, once I turned to your article I saw
> >>> that it wasn't about GWC at all, but rather gramofile. Now gramofile is
> >>> a nice app, and I used an incarnation of it a long time ago, before I
> >>> found out, and started to use, GWC.
> >>> Which leads me to this e-mail. FWIW, I highly recommend that you check
> >>> out GWC. It is, in my estimation, a fantastic program. Not to take away
> >>> from gramofile, but GWC is, for me, so much easier to use, and
> >>> better at
> >>> cleaning up pops, clicks and background noise, than gramofile.
> >>> I hope you get a chance to check it out.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Tim Wunder
> >>> Baltimore, MD

Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

Thank you for reporting this solution back to the list, I'm
glad you solved it!

And good luck cleaning up that audio :-)

jw

cae03 wrote:
> I'm happy to report that I succeded compiling gwc! I've beenrunning it for 10 minutes now and ready to fix some of my precious pieces from tape.
> 
> Thanks for a great program. For others having similar problems with Slackware 9.0 here is what I did:
> 
> 
> ## necessary gnome libs and other progs from the Slackware 8.1 CD that need to be installed (don't know if all are necessary but this worked for me); installed with installpkg, of course ;-). The command can be given in a single line or multiple commands.
> 
> gnome-core-1.4.0.8-i386-1.tgz gnome-libs-1.4.1.7-i386-1.tgz
> gnomemm-1.2.2-i386-1.tgz gtk-engines-0.12-i386-1.tgz
> gtkhtml-1.0.2-i386-1.tgz gtkmm-1.2.8-i386-1.tgz imlib-1.9.14-i386-1.tgz
> libghttp-1.0.9-i386-1.tgz libglade-0.17-i386-1.tgz librep-0.15.2-i386-1.tgz
> libsigc++-1.0.4-i386-1.tgz libunicode-0.4-i386-1.tgz rep-gtk-0.15-i386-2.tgz
> 
> ## replacements
> 
> replaced fftw-3.0.1 with fftw-2.1.5
> 
> installed gwc-0.19.2 instead of gwc-0.19.3
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Jeff Welty <we...@ya...>
> Sent: 07/28/03 06:26 PM
> To: John Cirillo <ci...@pu...>, cae03 <ca...@ea...>
> Subject: Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem
> 
> 
>>Thanks John!
> 
> 
> Other things which have changed -- there is a fftw version 3.x series,
> which *won't* work with gwc, they redefined the subroutine calls, so it 
> will take some effort to get that reconfigured.  You have to be sure to 
> use the fftw 2.x series.
> 
> Gnome 2 libs are out too, and I haven't investigated that either.  I'm 
> unfamiliar with slackware and which version of gnome they may have by 
> default.  It's summer, what can I say ;-)
> 
> cae03, good luck, and please let us know how it goes.
> 
> jw
> 
> John Cirillo wrote:
> 
>>I had the same problem. I am using Red Hat 7.3.
>>The solution in my case was to install gnome-libs-devel which was an RPM 
> 
> 
>>package on one of the CDs. I don't know much about slackware's distro so 
> 
> 
>>don't know where you would find that set of files unless there was a 
>>similar package on the CD.
>>
>>John
>>
>>cae03 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello, I'm trying to install gwc, but so far I haven had luck.
>>>
>>>I started with version 0.19-3, but it complained of not finding 
>>>"fftw-create-plan in -lfftw...". I checked for the fft libraries but 
>>>did not find the ".so" type so I recompiled fft with the 
>>>--enable-shared. But still ./config reported errors. After reading the 
>>>postings of Jeff Welty / Dave I followed the advice and dawnloaded 
>>>0.19-2, but I still get errors. It says that "gnomeConf.sh file in 
>>>/usr/local/lib created by gnome-libs istall does not exist."
>>>
>>>Although I use KDE most of the time gnome is installed y runs fine; I 
>>>checked the installed packages and the CD but can't find a reference 
>>>to gnome-libs or development libs (if any).
>>>
>>>The system:
>>>AMD Athlon 2000; 525 RAM
>>>Slackware 9.0
>>>
>>>Any comments will be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

[cae03 <ca...@ea...>]

I'm happy to report that I succeded compiling gwc! I've beenrunning it for 10 minutes now and ready to fix some of my precious pieces from tape.

Thanks for a great program. For others having similar problems with Slackware 9.0 here is what I did:


## necessary gnome libs and other progs from the Slackware 8.1 CD that need to be installed (don't know if all are necessary but this worked for me); installed with installpkg, of course ;-). The command can be given in a single line or multiple commands.

gnome-core-1.4.0.8-i386-1.tgz gnome-libs-1.4.1.7-i386-1.tgz
gnomemm-1.2.2-i386-1.tgz gtk-engines-0.12-i386-1.tgz
gtkhtml-1.0.2-i386-1.tgz gtkmm-1.2.8-i386-1.tgz imlib-1.9.14-i386-1.tgz
libghttp-1.0.9-i386-1.tgz libglade-0.17-i386-1.tgz librep-0.15.2-i386-1.tgz
libsigc++-1.0.4-i386-1.tgz libunicode-0.4-i386-1.tgz rep-gtk-0.15-i386-2.tgz

## replacements

replaced fftw-3.0.1 with fftw-2.1.5

installed gwc-0.19.2 instead of gwc-0.19.3




-------Original Message-------
From: Jeff Welty <we...@ya...>
Sent: 07/28/03 06:26 PM
To: John Cirillo <ci...@pu...>, cae03 <ca...@ea...>
Subject: Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

> 
> Thanks John!

Other things which have changed -- there is a fftw version 3.x series,
which *won't* work with gwc, they redefined the subroutine calls, so it 
will take some effort to get that reconfigured.  You have to be sure to 
use the fftw 2.x series.

Gnome 2 libs are out too, and I haven't investigated that either.  I'm 
unfamiliar with slackware and which version of gnome they may have by 
default.  It's summer, what can I say ;-)

cae03, good luck, and please let us know how it goes.

jw

John Cirillo wrote:
> I had the same problem. I am using Red Hat 7.3.
> The solution in my case was to install gnome-libs-devel which was an RPM 

> package on one of the CDs. I don't know much about slackware's distro so 

> don't know where you would find that set of files unless there was a 
> similar package on the CD.
> 
> John
> 
> cae03 wrote:
> 
>> Hello, I'm trying to install gwc, but so far I haven had luck.
>>
>> I started with version 0.19-3, but it complained of not finding 
>> "fftw-create-plan in -lfftw...". I checked for the fft libraries but 
>> did not find the ".so" type so I recompiled fft with the 
>> --enable-shared. But still ./config reported errors. After reading the 
>> postings of Jeff Welty / Dave I followed the advice and dawnloaded 
>> 0.19-2, but I still get errors. It says that "gnomeConf.sh file in 
>> /usr/local/lib created by gnome-libs istall does not exist."
>>
>> Although I use KDE most of the time gnome is installed y runs fine; I 
>> checked the installed packages and the CD but can't find a reference 
>> to gnome-libs or development libs (if any).
>>
>> The system:
>> AMD Athlon 2000; 525 RAM
>> Slackware 9.0
>>
>> Any comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>
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Re: Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

[cae03 <ca...@ea...>]

Thanks Jeff, thanks John.

Following John's clue I searched my system for the development libraries, but they aren't there; they are not on the distro CD or ftp site either. I'm researching it; if I find useful info I'll post it here.

Slackware 9.0 (current vrsn) is using Gnome 2.2, but is not the vanila gnome; itis a "tweaked Gnome for Slackare". More info can be found at sourceforge or their wave page www.dropline.net.


-------Original Message-------
From: Jeff Welty <we...@ya...>
Sent: 07/28/03 06:26 PM
To: John Cirillo <ci...@pu...>, cae03 <ca...@ea...>
Subject: Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

> 
> Thanks John!

Other things which have changed -- there is a fftw version 3.x series,
which *won't* work with gwc, they redefined the subroutine calls, so it 
will take some effort to get that reconfigured.  You have to be sure to 
use the fftw 2.x series.

Gnome 2 libs are out too, and I haven't investigated that either.  I'm 
unfamiliar with slackware and which version of gnome they may have by 
default.  It's summer, what can I say ;-)

cae03, good luck, and please let us know how it goes.

jw

John Cirillo wrote:
> I had the same problem. I am using Red Hat 7.3.
> The solution in my case was to install gnome-libs-devel which was an RPM 

> package on one of the CDs. I don't know much about slackware's distro so 

> don't know where you would find that set of files unless there was a 
> similar package on the CD.
> 
> John
> 
> cae03 wrote:
> 
>> Hello, I'm trying to install gwc, but so far I haven had luck.
>>
>> I started with version 0.19-3, but it complained of not finding 
>> "fftw-create-plan in -lfftw...". I checked for the fft libraries but 
>> did not find the ".so" type so I recompiled fft with the 
>> --enable-shared. But still ./config reported errors. After reading the 
>> postings of Jeff Welty / Dave I followed the advice and dawnloaded 
>> 0.19-2, but I still get errors. It says that "gnomeConf.sh file in 
>> /usr/local/lib created by gnome-libs istall does not exist."
>>
>> Although I use KDE most of the time gnome is installed y runs fine; I 
>> checked the installed packages and the CD but can't find a reference 
>> to gnome-libs or development libs (if any).
>>
>> The system:
>> AMD Athlon 2000; 525 RAM
>> Slackware 9.0
>>
>> Any comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>
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Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

[Jeff W. <we...@ya...>]

Thanks John!

Other things which have changed -- there is a fftw version 3.x series,
which *won't* work with gwc, they redefined the subroutine calls, so it 
will take some effort to get that reconfigured.  You have to be sure to 
use the fftw 2.x series.

Gnome 2 libs are out too, and I haven't investigated that either.  I'm 
unfamiliar with slackware and which version of gnome they may have by 
default.  It's summer, what can I say ;-)

cae03, good luck, and please let us know how it goes.

jw

John Cirillo wrote:
> I had the same problem. I am using Red Hat 7.3.
> The solution in my case was to install gnome-libs-devel which was an RPM 
> package on one of the CDs. I don't know much about slackware's distro so 
> don't know where you would find that set of files unless there was a 
> similar package on the CD.
> 
> John
> 
> cae03 wrote:
> 
>> Hello, I'm trying to install gwc, but so far I haven had luck.
>>
>> I started with version 0.19-3, but it complained of not finding 
>> "fftw-create-plan in -lfftw...". I checked for the fft libraries but 
>> did not find the ".so" type so I recompiled fft with the 
>> --enable-shared. But still ./config reported errors. After reading the 
>> postings of Jeff Welty / Dave I followed the advice and dawnloaded 
>> 0.19-2, but I still get errors. It says that "gnomeConf.sh file in 
>> /usr/local/lib created by gnome-libs istall does not exist."
>>
>> Although I use KDE most of the time gnome is installed y runs fine; I 
>> checked the installed packages and the CD but can't find a reference 
>> to gnome-libs or development libs (if any).
>>
>> The system:
>> AMD Athlon 2000; 525 RAM
>> Slackware 9.0
>>
>> Any comments will be appreciated.
>>
>>
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Re: [Gwc-general] Installation problem

[John C. <ci...@pu...>]

I had the same problem. I am using Red Hat 7.3.
The solution in my case was to install gnome-libs-devel which was 
an RPM package on one of the CDs. I don't know much about 
slackware's distro so don't know where you would find that set of 
files unless there was a similar package on the CD.

John

cae03 wrote:
> Hello, I'm trying to install gwc, but so far I haven had luck.
> 
> I started with version 0.19-3, but it complained of not finding "fftw-create-plan in -lfftw...". I checked for the fft libraries but did not find the ".so" type so I recompiled fft with the --enable-shared. But still ./config reported errors. After reading the postings of Jeff Welty / Dave I followed the advice and dawnloaded 0.19-2, but I still get errors. It says that "gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib created by gnome-libs istall does not exist."
> 
> Although I use KDE most of the time gnome is installed y runs fine; I checked the installed packages and the CD but can't find a reference to gnome-libs or development libs (if any).
> 
> The system:
> AMD Athlon 2000; 525 RAM
> Slackware 9.0
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[Gwc-general] Installation problem

[cae03 <ca...@ea...>]

Hello, I'm trying to install gwc, but so far I haven had luck.

I started with version 0.19-3, but it complained of not finding "fftw-create-plan in -lfftw...". I checked for the fft libraries but did not find the ".so" type so I recompiled fft with the --enable-shared. But still ./config reported errors. After reading the postings of Jeff Welty / Dave I followed the advice and dawnloaded 0.19-2, but I still get errors. It says that "gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib created by gnome-libs istall does not exist."

Although I use KDE most of the time gnome is installed y runs fine; I checked the installed packages and the CD but can't find a reference to gnome-libs or development libs (if any).

The system:
AMD Athlon 2000; 525 RAM
Slackware 9.0

Any comments will be appreciated.