From: Jim W. <jim...@gm...> - 2006-07-28 01:48:38
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I've enjoyed playing with 2.1.9 BETA since it was released. It is so much faster than 2.0.11. It is a really slick package. I am still confused about two things. The first, when reviewing the "What's New in 2.2" that Don posted last week shows the Event Description field as the place to put the main characteristic of the event linked with the person. Don uses "Birth of Anna Hansdotter" in Anna's birth event as an example. My confusion is that this Description information prints on reports. Looks like a repetition to me. And if this is the way the field is to be used, are there plans to populate it automagically when importing a gedcom? I'm scared over the amount of work that my 14k persons database will need to conform. Second confusion is how to enter place names. The Place Editor looks like it has for the last two major releases at least. I have a place like "North Carolina State University, Raleigh, Wake County, North Carolina, USA, 27603". Do I put all of this in the first line on the Place Editor? When I break it down into the elements, they only the top line prints in reports and I lose the identity of the rest of it. How should the names be entered so they print on reports. What is the best way to add the street/postal address for places? And a comment about the layout of the Relationship screen.. In some future release it would be great if the dates for people were moved up beside the names. Working full screen, there sure is a lot of white space that, if conserved, would get rid of a lot of scrolling when we're showing full details for people. Thanks, Jim |
From: Duncan L. <du...@li...> - 2006-07-28 08:23:24
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On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 21:48 -0400, Jim Winfrey wrote:=20 > Second confusion is how to enter place names. The Place Editor looks > like it has for the last two major releases at least. I have a place > like "North Carolina State University, Raleigh, Wake County, North > Carolina, USA, 27603". Do I put all of this in the first line on the > Place Editor? When I break it down into the elements, they only the > top line prints in reports and I lose the identity of the rest of it. > How should the names be entered so they print on reports. What is the > best way to add the street/postal address for places? I have the same problem, and add the info in both ways, usually a compact version in the title and the details in the different fields. You shouldn't confuse how the gramps interface works and stores data with the way the reports work. If the reports present data in an unexpected way (I think they do in this case) then that's an issue about which values the report gathers to put into the reports. > And a comment about the layout of the Relationship screen.. In some > future release it would be great if the dates for people were moved up > beside the names. Working full screen, there sure is a lot of white > space that, if conserved, would get rid of a lot of scrolling when > we're showing full details for people. Do you mean the date of the main person? Yes, that would save one line of space, but would it look logical or out of place? Duncan --=20 Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk |
From: Duncan L. <du...@li...> - 2006-07-28 08:38:56
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Does the release of 2.1.9 mean I can remove all the dependencies I had installed to be able to make the previous pre-releases? Duncan --=20 Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk |
From: Duncan L. <du...@li...> - 2006-07-28 08:41:51
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I aborted the install (the Ubuntu .deb) because it warned of an older version available in the repository and I was scared it would overwrite gramps 2.0.11 stable. How should I proceed if I want access to both versions? Duncan --=20 Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk |
From: Duncan L. <du...@li...> - 2006-07-28 23:15:00
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On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:16 -0700, Alex Roitman wrote:=20 > Duncan, >=20 > On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 10:41 +0200, Duncan Lithgow wrote: > > I aborted the install (the Ubuntu .deb) because it warned of an older > > version available in the repository and I was scared it would overwrite > > gramps 2.0.11 stable. How should I proceed if I want access to both > > versions? >=20 > If you are using packages, then you can only have one version > of gramps at any given moment. The packages should provide for > clean install and uninstall, so you can switch back and forth as > you wish: > $ sudo dpkg -i gramps_2.1.90_1ubuntu1.deb > $ sudo apt-get remove gramps > $ sudo apt-get install gramps > This will install 2.1.90, remove, and install from repository. > Lather, rinse, repeat :-) >=20 >=20 > If you want both versions simultaneously then you're back to > building from tarball and installing in /usr/local/ or elsehwere. Thanks for that Duncan --=20 Linux user: 372812 | GPG key ID: 21A8C63A | http://lithgow-schmidt.dk |
From: Alex R. <sh...@gr...> - 2006-07-29 05:02:50
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Jim, On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 21:48 -0400, Jim Winfrey wrote: > The first, when reviewing the "What's New in 2.2" that Don posted last > week shows the Event Description field as the place to put the main > characteristic of the event linked with the person. Don uses "Birth > of Anna Hansdotter" in Anna's birth event as an example. My confusion > is that this Description information prints on reports. Looks like a > repetition to me. And if this is the way the field is to be used, are > there plans to populate it automagically when importing a gedcom? I'm > scared over the amount of work that my 14k persons database will need > to conform. The description should be automatically populated on GEDCOM import. As for the reports, it is completely under our control as to what to include and not include in reports. I am not sure which reports use description and which do not at the moment. I am not sure it is always repetitive: e.g. one can have many Occupation events, and the description can be used to clarify which is which. Also, about the birth, when John Smith is an event participant in Birth, it does not have to be his birth. So if you see an entry in events list: Event Description Role Birth Birth of Anna Handsdotter Clergy it should be clearer to distinguish this from his Birth event. Same if he served as a clergy member for more than one birth. > Second confusion is how to enter place names. The Place Editor looks > like it has for the last two major releases at least. I have a place > like "North Carolina State University, Raleigh, Wake County, North > Carolina, USA, 27603". Do I put all of this in the first line on the > Place Editor? When I break it down into the elements, they only the > top line prints in reports and I lose the identity of the rest of it. > How should the names be entered so they print on reports. What is the > best way to add the street/postal address for places? I personally would enter elements, and make the title myself. Something I could recognize, e.g. "NCSU, Raleigh". Some other place would be "My first apartment" or "Mom's second job". The title does not have to be composed from the pieces. However, I think this already came up a few times in the past, and we did nothing in this regard: maybe we need a tool to create place titles from the pieces. The users who like this would run the tool. A good tool could let the user optionally select the places on which to perform it. Conceivably, it could also attempt to parse a complex title into the pieces, in case it came from GEDCOM and only has a single title. Could you please file a Feature Request at http://bugs.gramps-project.org and spill your thoughts on what the ideal tool should do? > And a comment about the layout of the Relationship screen.. In some > future release it would be great if the dates for people were moved up > beside the names. Working full screen, there sure is a lot of white > space that, if conserved, would get rid of a lot of scrolling when > we're showing full details for people. I'll leave this one to discussion. I don't have an opinion, and it could easily be done the way you want. Let's see what the majority wants. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org |