From: John T. <j2...@ya...> - 2012-09-06 23:52:50
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I have been building my family tree on Gramps for several months and have about 2,000 people on it at present. It took a few days to find my way around the programme, but now I find it a breeze to use. A big thank you to all who have created this software. While the text reports are excellent, I find the graphical reports are another story. I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, or I have something missing, or what is the cause of the problem. On trying to generate any of the graphical reports I get either: 1. an error message saying the report does not exist, or 2. a report on a different person to the one selected, or 3. a report on the person selected In each case of a report actually being generated (either 2 or 3 above) the information is incomplete and the layout is a mess of overlapping boxes. I will appreciate any help to solve the problem. Many thanks and best regards John |
From: Keith J. <kcj...@gm...> - 2014-12-01 18:13:31
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Has anyone tried to use the Ancestor Tree in the Graphical Reports of Version 4.1.1-86bfff. No matter what I do I get everything squashed to the left-hand side of the paper, which I have set as A4, whatever Output Format I choose. Regards Keith Jacobs |
From: Josip <jo...@pi...> - 2014-12-01 19:32:30
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1.12.2014. u 19:13, Keith Jacobs je napisao/la: > Has anyone tried to use the Ancestor Tree in the Graphical Reports of > Version 4.1.1-86bfff. > > No matter what I do I get everything squashed to the left-hand side of > the paper, which I have set as A4, whatever Output Format I choose. > > Regards > > Keith Jacobs > Did you try various options from "Scale tree to fit" in "Size" tab of Ancestor Tree ie one of: "Do not scale tree" "Scale tree to fit width page only" "Scale tree to fit size of the page" -- Josip |
From: Josip <jo...@pi...> - 2014-12-01 20:10:46
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1.12.2014. u 20:41, Keith Jacobs je napisao/la: > Hi Josip > > Yes I tried all of these, in fact I have tried most of the reports and their > respective options and have not been happy with any of them. > It's a shame as Gramps is great in many ways but the reports features are > not upto scratch. > > Regards > Keith Jacobs > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josip [mailto:jo...@pi...] > Sent: 01 December 2014 19:32 > To: gra...@li... > Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Graphical Reports > > 1.12.2014. u 19:13, Keith Jacobs je napisao/la: >> Has anyone tried to use the Ancestor Tree in the Graphical Reports of >> Version 4.1.1-86bfff. >> >> No matter what I do I get everything squashed to the left-hand side of >> the paper, which I have set as A4, whatever Output Format I choose. >> >> Regards >> >> Keith Jacobs >> > > Did you try various options from "Scale tree to fit" in "Size" tab of > Ancestor Tree ie one of: > "Do not scale tree" > "Scale tree to fit width page only" > "Scale tree to fit size of the page" > > -- > Josip > It is true that Gramps have not fancy charts but this one is simple and works pretty good for trees of various shape. Not all tree can look god with same options, you must find best options for your need and tree shape. It is hard to reproduce blindly but i can get similar result when "Compress tree" is unchecked and report made for person I0037 from data.gramps (GrampsAIO-4.1.1-86bfff\share\doc\gramps\example\gramps\data.gramps) If i check on "Compress tree" from "Tree Options" tab and "Scale tree to fit size of the page" from "Size" tab then result looks good to me. -- Josip |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2012-09-07 07:41:33
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The odf output is not very good for graphical reports. We think about deprecating it for 4.0, and replacing it with an embedded png/svg in the future. The pdf/svg/ps/print output should be good, they are done using the cairo toolbox. I did some tests not long ago, and those worked nice for me. However, you might have to change the paper size to the result you are expecting. Use the print to file, and show preview, to inspect this. The print preview is really invaluable to obtain the result you want. For example, if you see an ancestor tree does not fit a page, you can in the options select to scale to the page, or make the page larger. If you then save to svg, you can open the svg in inkscape or firefox, and obtain a high quality png/jpg-image. Inkscape allows editing of an svg, so you can do changes easily. The save to png is at the moment an extra step, which is annoying, but not much so. You can automate it also via a terminal: inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png in linux to view it immediately: inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png && xdg-open test.png About the selection of the person on the output. There normally is a filter or a center person option, which indicates what will be plotted. Benny 2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya...> > I have been building my family tree on Gramps for several months and have > about 2,000 people on it at present. It took a few days to find my way > around the programme, but now I find it a breeze to use. A big thank you to > all who have created this software. > While the text reports are excellent, I find the graphical reports are > another story. I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, or I have > something missing, or what is the cause of the problem. On trying to > generate any of the graphical reports I get either: > 1. an error message saying the report does not exist, or > 2. a report on a different person to the one selected, or > 3. a report on the person selected > In each case of a report actually being generated (either 2 or 3 above) > the information is incomplete and the layout is a mess of overlapping boxes. > I will appreciate any help to solve the problem. > Many thanks and best regards > John > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2012-09-07 18:10:30
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2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya...> > Benny > > Thank you for your response. > > First an apology - I forgot to state I am using Gramps 3.3.1 (AIO v.2) on > Wndows 7, 32 bit. > > Second, while I can generally use software, I am no techy. I regret I > don't understand the term 'Cairo Toolbox', or where to find it or how to > use it. May I ask you to explain it in simple language for me or point me > to some document where it is already explained. > This cairo toolbox is installed when you install AIO, so you need not worry about it. If you select a graphical report, you see the option dialog with several tab pages. The first tab has the paper options. At the bottom part of this option dialog are the document options. You see Output format. There you have opendocument format (what you can open with e.g. Libreoffice, a free office suite). It does not work very good. Select pdf (to open with adobe reader), svg (to open with inkscape or view in eg firefox), or Print. If you select Print, the print dialog opens, where you can select print preview at the bottom before printing. In the print dialog, the top printer is not a printer but is 'Print to file ...'. If you select that, you can again save the file to pdf or svg, instead of printing it. The svg file you saved can be opened with inkscape and the file menu there has an export option to export to png (a good image format that keeps resolution good) or jpeg, which you probably know. Benny > > Also, where do I find the 'Print to File' option? > > I have downloaded GraphViz and Inkscape separately. Do I need to link > them in some way to Gramps? > > Many thanks and best regards > John > *From:* Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> > *To:* John Tea <j2...@ya...> > *Cc:* "gra...@li..." < > gra...@li...> > *Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2012 3:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Gramps-users] Graphical Reports > > The odf output is not very good for graphical reports. We think about > deprecating it for 4.0, and replacing it with an embedded png/svg in the > future. > The pdf/svg/ps/print output should be good, they are done using the cairo > toolbox. I did some tests not long ago, and those worked nice for me. > However, you might have to change the paper size to the result you are > expecting. Use the print to file, and show preview, to inspect this. The > print preview is really invaluable to obtain the result you want. > For example, if you see an ancestor tree does not fit a page, you can in > the options select to scale to the page, or make the page larger. If you > then save to svg, you can open the svg in inkscape or firefox, and obtain a > high quality png/jpg-image. Inkscape allows editing of an svg, so you can > do changes easily. The save to png is at the moment an extra step, which is > annoying, but not much so. You can automate it also via a terminal: > > inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png > > in linux to view it immediately: > inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png && xdg-open > test.png > > About the selection of the person on the output. There normally is a > filter or a center person option, which indicates what will be plotted. > > Benny > > 2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya...> > > I have been building my family tree on Gramps for several months and have > about 2,000 people on it at present. It took a few days to find my way > around the programme, but now I find it a breeze to use. A big thank you to > all who have created this software. > While the text reports are excellent, I find the graphical reports are > another story. I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, or I have > something missing, or what is the cause of the problem. On trying to > generate any of the graphical reports I get either: > 1. an error message saying the report does not exist, or > 2. a report on a different person to the one selected, or > 3. a report on the person selected > In each case of a report actually being generated (either 2 or 3 above) > the information is incomplete and the layout is a mess of overlapping boxes. > I will appreciate any help to solve the problem. > Many thanks and best regards > John > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2012-09-08 10:04:18
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2012/9/8 John Tea <j2...@ya...> > Benny > > When I select Print in the output format box I get the Print dialogue > box. I have no printer attached, so in the select printer box at the top > my 3 options are: > Add Printer > Fax > Microsoft XPS Document Writer > > There is no 'Print Preview' option > It seems our documentation does not contain a section about this, http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_4 Somebody should add a section on the document options and printing :-) Perhaps in windows the default windows print dialog is shown, and not the one included in Gramps. I don't have windows here to try that. If the print dialog does not have print to file and print preview, then you should select svg (you wrote svp, but I suppose you mean svg) or pdf. You say there is an error with charts and svg output in Gramps. You should post the error you receive. If the ancestor chart works, then you have an idea of how it looks. Note that the object is grouped in inkscape. In the menu there is an option: Ungroup, then you can edit the different parts of the graph. Benny > With the XPS option selected and the 'Print to File' selected an error > message comes up headed 'Local Port' and saying 'Access is denied'. With > the 'Print to File' box unchecked I can save the XPS document, but it is > not useful - it has large boxes with the text occupying a small portion and > no connecting lines. > > I have managed to produce an Ancester Chart in SVP, which I can open in > Inkscape, but other reports with SVP as the selected output format either > produce a Gramps Error message or a file that Inkscape cannot open (even > though it is labelled .svp). > > Best regards > John > > *From:* Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> > *To:* John Tea <j2...@ya...> > *Cc:* gra...@li... > *Sent:* Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:10 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Gramps-users] Graphical Reports > > > > 2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya...> > > Benny > > Thank you for your response. > > First an apology - I forgot to state I am using Gramps 3.3.1 (AIO v.2) on > Wndows 7, 32 bit. > > Second, while I can generally use software, I am no techy. I regret I > don't understand the term 'Cairo Toolbox', or where to find it or how to > use it. May I ask you to explain it in simple language for me or point me > to some document where it is already explained. > > > This cairo toolbox is installed when you install AIO, so you need not > worry about it. > If you select a graphical report, you see the option dialog with several > tab pages. The first tab has the paper options. At the bottom part of this > option dialog are the document options. You see Output format. There you > have opendocument format (what you can open with e.g. Libreoffice, a free > office suite). It does not work very good. Select pdf (to open with adobe > reader), svg (to open with inkscape or view in eg firefox), or Print. > If you select Print, the print dialog opens, where you can select print > preview at the bottom before printing. In the print dialog, the top printer > is not a printer but is 'Print to file ...'. If you select that, you can > again save the file to pdf or svg, instead of printing it. > The svg file you saved can be opened with inkscape and the file menu there > has an export option to export to png (a good image format that keeps > resolution good) or jpeg, which you probably know. > > Benny > > > Also, where do I find the 'Print to File' option? > > I have downloaded GraphViz and Inkscape separately. Do I need to link > them in some way to Gramps? > > Many thanks and best regards > John > *From:* Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> > *To:* John Tea <j2...@ya...> > *Cc:* "gra...@li..." < > gra...@li...> > *Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2012 3:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Gramps-users] Graphical Reports > > The odf output is not very good for graphical reports. We think about > deprecating it for 4.0, and replacing it with an embedded png/svg in the > future. > The pdf/svg/ps/print output should be good, they are done using the cairo > toolbox. I did some tests not long ago, and those worked nice for me. > However, you might have to change the paper size to the result you are > expecting. Use the print to file, and show preview, to inspect this. The > print preview is really invaluable to obtain the result you want. > For example, if you see an ancestor tree does not fit a page, you can in > the options select to scale to the page, or make the page larger. If you > then save to svg, you can open the svg in inkscape or firefox, and obtain a > high quality png/jpg-image. Inkscape allows editing of an svg, so you can > do changes easily. The save to png is at the moment an extra step, which is > annoying, but not much so. You can automate it also via a terminal: > > inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png > > in linux to view it immediately: > inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png && xdg-open > test.png > > About the selection of the person on the output. There normally is a > filter or a center person option, which indicates what will be plotted. > > Benny > > 2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya...> > > I have been building my family tree on Gramps for several months and have > about 2,000 people on it at present. It took a few days to find my way > around the programme, but now I find it a breeze to use. A big thank you to > all who have created this software. > While the text reports are excellent, I find the graphical reports are > another story. I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, or I have > something missing, or what is the cause of the problem. On trying to > generate any of the graphical reports I get either: > 1. an error message saying the report does not exist, or > 2. a report on a different person to the one selected, or > 3. a report on the person selected > In each case of a report actually being generated (either 2 or 3 above) > the information is incomplete and the layout is a mess of overlapping boxes. > I will appreciate any help to solve the problem. > Many thanks and best regards > John > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > > > > |
From: Peter L. <pet...@te...> - 2012-09-08 11:06:56
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Benny Malengier skrev 2012-09-08 12:04: > > > 2012/9/8 John Tea <j2...@ya... <mailto:j2...@ya...>> > > Benny > When I select Print in the output format box I get the Print > dialogue box. I have no printer attached, so in the select > printer box at the top my 3 options are: > Add Printer > Fax > Microsoft XPS Document Writer > There is no 'Print Preview' option > > > It seems our documentation does not contain a section about this, > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_4 > Somebody should add a section on the document options and printing :-) > > Perhaps in windows the default windows print dialog is shown, and not > the one included in Gramps. I don't have windows here to try that. > If the print dialog does not have print to file and print preview, > then you should select svg (you wrote svp, but I suppose you mean svg) > or pdf. > Yes, it's the win default. I have added a pdf-writer like "CuteWriter" to be able to save the output. /Peter > You say there is an error with charts and svg output in Gramps. You > should post the error you receive. > If the ancestor chart works, then you have an idea of how it looks. > Note that the object is grouped in inkscape. In the menu there is an > option: Ungroup, then you can edit the different parts of the graph. > > Benny > > With the XPS option selected and the 'Print to File' selected an > error message comes up headed 'Local Port' and saying 'Access is > denied'. With the 'Print to File' box unchecked I can save the > XPS document, but it is not useful - it has large boxes with the > text occupying a small portion and no connecting lines. > I have managed to produce an Ancester Chart in SVP, which I can > open in Inkscape, but other reports with SVP as the selected > output format either produce a Gramps Error message or a file that > Inkscape cannot open (even though it is labelled .svp). > Best regards > John > > *From:* Benny Malengier <ben...@gm... > <mailto:ben...@gm...>> > *To:* John Tea <j2...@ya... <mailto:j2...@ya...>> > *Cc:* gra...@li... > <mailto:gra...@li...> > *Sent:* Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:10 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Gramps-users] Graphical Reports > > > > 2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya... <mailto:j2...@ya...>> > > Benny > Thank you for your response. > First an apology - I forgot to state I am using Gramps 3.3.1 > (AIO v.2) on Wndows 7, 32 bit. > Second, while I can generally use software, I am no techy. I > regret I don't understand the term 'Cairo Toolbox', or where > to find it or how to use it. May I ask you to explain it in > simple language for me or point me to some document where it > is already explained. > > > This cairo toolbox is installed when you install AIO, so you need > not worry about it. > If you select a graphical report, you see the option dialog with > several tab pages. The first tab has the paper options. At the > bottom part of this option dialog are the document options. You > see Output format. There you have opendocument format (what you > can open with e.g. Libreoffice, a free office suite). It does not > work very good. Select pdf (to open with adobe reader), svg (to > open with inkscape or view in eg firefox), or Print. > If you select Print, the print dialog opens, where you can select > print preview at the bottom before printing. In the print dialog, > the top printer is not a printer but is 'Print to file ...'. If > you select that, you can again save the file to pdf or svg, > instead of printing it. > The svg file you saved can be opened with inkscape and the file > menu there has an export option to export to png (a good image > format that keeps resolution good) or jpeg, which you probably know. > > Benny > > Also, where do I find the 'Print to File' option? > I have downloaded GraphViz and Inkscape separately. Do I need > to link them in some way to Gramps? > > Many thanks and best regards > John > *From:* Benny Malengier <ben...@gm... > <mailto:ben...@gm...>> > *To:* John Tea <j2...@ya... <mailto:j2...@ya...>> > *Cc:* "gra...@li... > <mailto:gra...@li...>" > <gra...@li... > <mailto:gra...@li...>> > *Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2012 3:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Gramps-users] Graphical Reports > > The odf output is not very good for graphical reports. We > think about deprecating it for 4.0, and replacing it with an > embedded png/svg in the future. > The pdf/svg/ps/print output should be good, they are done > using the cairo toolbox. I did some tests not long ago, and > those worked nice for me. However, you might have to change > the paper size to the result you are expecting. Use the print > to file, and show preview, to inspect this. The print preview > is really invaluable to obtain the result you want. > For example, if you see an ancestor tree does not fit a page, > you can in the options select to scale to the page, or make > the page larger. If you then save to svg, you can open the svg > in inkscape or firefox, and obtain a high quality > png/jpg-image. Inkscape allows editing of an svg, so you can > do changes easily. The save to png is at the moment an extra > step, which is annoying, but not much so. You can automate it > also via a terminal: > > inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png > > in linux to view it immediately: > inkscape --file=Ancestor\ Tree.svg --export-png=test.png && > xdg-open test.png > > About the selection of the person on the output. There > normally is a filter or a center person option, which > indicates what will be plotted. > > Benny > > 2012/9/7 John Tea <j2...@ya... <mailto:j2...@ya...>> > > I have been building my family tree on Gramps for several > months and have about 2,000 people on it at present. It > took a few days to find my way around the programme, but > now I find it a breeze to use. A big thank you to all who > have created this software. > While the text reports are excellent, I find the graphical > reports are another story. I am not sure if I am doing > something wrong, or I have something missing, or what is > the cause of the problem. On trying to generate any of the > graphical reports I get either: > 1. an error message saying the report does not exist, or > 2. a report on a different person to the one selected, or > 3. a report on the person selected > In each case of a report actually being generated (either > 2 or 3 above) the information is incomplete and the layout > is a mess of overlapping boxes. > I will appreciate any help to solve the problem. > Many thanks and best regards > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's > security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can > respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the > latest in malware > threats. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > <mailto:Gra...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |