From: jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2013-05-21 12:33:31
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Version 4.0.0, the "The Miracle of Birth", has been released. This is a major release, don't upgrade before verifying your system can run it. As one of the very first big ($5.4 millions), multi-platform (Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, ...), non-Gnome GTK applications, Gramps makes the jump to GTK 3. At the same time python 2.7 and python 3 are supported, though the last must still be considered experimental. Gramps 4.0 further uses distutils for distribution, so the install sequence is changed. The Gramps developers have tried to make Gramps 4.0 as identical as possible to 3.4, so no data changes are done, nor are there big interface changes. In other words, a .gramps backup file of version 4.0 will open without problems in Gramps 3.4, giving users the possibility to fully try Gramps 4.0. Don't be mistaken though, a huge amount of code is new and changed! In order to bring this release we thank the many developers who helped the GTK support on Mac, Windows and Linux forward. Note however, Gramps 4.0 will only work on a top of a very recent sortware stack. A Windows installer will probably not be available soon. In Linux current distro's don't contain the optional packages in the form Gramps 4.0 needs. All this should make clear you can safely keep using version 3.4 and wait for packagers to catch up. People who cannot upgrade the required components but want to use Gramps 4.0 should use it in Virtualbox. Before Upgrade Before you upgrade, make sure your family tree data is secure. The best way to do this is: 1. Start Gramps 3.4 2. Open your family tree 3. Export the family tree to the gramps xml format or the gramps xml package format (which includes your photographs and other media files associated with your family tree data). 4. Export your tree via menu Family Trees->Backup.... 5. Close this family tree and repeat the above steps for any other family trees you have 6. Keep the resulting file(s) in a safe place Overview of big changes * Conversion to GTK 3 and use of gobject introspection, GEPS 029 * Support for python 3, GEPS 031 * Code reorganization, GEPS 008 * Autotools is no longer used for building Gramps, distutils is used, GEPS 026 * Completely reworked localization handling Overview of visible changes See screenshots. * The Gramplet view has been renamed Dashboard. This to avoid an overload of the word Gramplet, and to make it more clear to new users what can be expected in this view. * GTK 3 uses new themes, so users not on Gnome must set a nice GTK 3 theme to fully appreciate Gramps 4.0. Install a GTK 3 theme and set it. If Gramps looks ugly, you made an error in this step. * Different sidebar navigators can be installed. * New Ancestor Fan Chart View and Descendant Fan Chart View, which offer a lot of insight in your family tree on a small space. Direct printing is available from these views. * All wizards are reworked, so the exporter dialog, help and bug report dialog are different from version 3.4, but offer the same functions * New To Do Gramplets listing all To Do Notes * More reports support output in a different language than the interface language * Narrative Web has been reworked to make it more stable. Installation status OS X: Mac OS X will see an official installer shortly after release with all components Linux: We expect Linux packages for different distributions. Gramps 4.0 will only work on distributions released since October 2012, use virtualbox for older distributions. Some optional dependencies are not available yet on most distribution at the time of release. If you want those, you need to install them from source, see Ubuntu derivatives walkthrough in the installation guide for these. Specifically for Ubuntu derivatives spell checking, geography view and exiv image data require installation of source components. Windows: Much work has been done the last months to obtain the stack needed for Gramps on Windows. At the moment only a rough guide on source installation is present. We hope this will allow windows developers to construct an AIO installer as for the 3.4 version. See the Changelog for more details. You can get Gramps 4.0.0 from the download page. |
From: Jean M. <jea...@gm...> - 2013-05-21 15:07:43
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I have the version 3.4.4.1 installed on Ubuntu but when I try and download the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I can get the major update? I had installed the 3.4.4.1 also through Source and it is supposed to have everything I need from that site so am not sure what is going on. Thanks. Jean On 05/21/2013 07:33 AM, jerome wrote: > > *Version 4.0.0, the "The Miracle of Birth", has been released. * > > This is a major release, don't upgrade before verifying your system > can run it. > > As one of the very first big ($5.4 millions > <http://www.ohloh.net/p/gramps/estimated_cost>), multi-platform > (Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, ...), non-Gnome GTK applications, Gramps > makes the jump to GTK 3. At the same time python 2.7 and python 3 are > supported, though the last must still be considered experimental. > Gramps *4.0* further uses distutils for distribution, so the install > sequence is changed. > > The Gramps developers have tried to make Gramps *4.0* as identical as > possible to *3.4*, so no data changes are done, nor are there big > interface changes. In other words, a .gramps backup file of version > *4.0* will open without problems in Gramps *3.4*, giving users the > possibility to fully try Gramps *4.0*. > > Don't be mistaken though, a _huge amount of code is new and changed_! > In order to bring this release we thank the many developers who helped > the GTK support on Mac, Windows and Linux forward. Note however, > Gramps *4.0* will only work on a top of a very recent sortware stack. > A Windows installer will probably not be available soon. In Linux > current distro's don't contain the optional packages in the form > Gramps *4.0* needs. All this should make clear you can safely keep > using version *3.4* and wait for packagers to catch up. People who > cannot upgrade the required components but want to use Gramps *4.0* > should use it in Virtualbox <https://www.virtualbox.org/>. > > *Before Upgrade* > > Before you upgrade, make sure your family tree data is secure. The > best way to do this is: > > 1. Start Gramps *3.4* > > 2. Open your family tree > > 3. Export the family tree to the gramps xml format or the gramps xml > package format (which includes your photographs and other media files > associated with your family tree data). > > 4. Export your tree via menu Family Trees->Backup.... > > 5. Close this family tree and repeat the above steps for any other > family trees you have > > 6. Keep the resulting file(s) in a safe place > > *Overview of big changes* > > * Conversion to GTK 3 and use of gobject introspection, GEPS 029 > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_029:_GTK3-GObject_introspection_Conversion> > > * Support for python 3, GEPS 031 > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_031:_Python_3_support> > > * Code reorganization, GEPS 008 > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_008:_File_Organization> > > * Autotools is no longer used for building Gramps, distutils is used, > GEPS 026 > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_026:_Replace_%27make%27_for_Gramps_build> > > * Completely reworked localization handling > > *Overview of visible changes* > > See screenshots > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_4.0_Wiki_Manual_-_What%27s_new%3F>. > > * The Gramplet view has been renamed Dashboard. This to avoid an > overload of the word Gramplet, and to make it more clear to new users > what can be expected in this view. > > * GTK 3 uses new themes, so users not on Gnome must set a nice GTK 3 > theme to fully appreciate Gramps 4.0. Install a GTK 3 theme and set > it. If Gramps looks ugly, you made an error in this step. > > * Different sidebar navigators can be installed. > > * New Ancestor Fan Chart View and Descendant Fan Chart View, which > offer a lot of insight in your family tree on a small space. Direct > printing is available from these views. > > * All wizards are reworked, so the exporter dialog, help and bug > report dialog are different from version 3.4, but offer the same functions > > * New To Do Gramplets listing all To Do Notes > > * More reports support output in a different language than the > interface language > > * Narrative Web has been reworked to make it more stable. > > *Installation status* > > /_OS X_/: Mac OS X will see an official installer shortly after > release with all components > > /_Linux_/: We expect Linux packages for different distributions. > Gramps 4.0 will only work on distributions released since October > 2012, use virtualbox for older distributions. Some optional > dependencies are not available yet on most distribution at the time of > release. If you want those, you need to install them from source, see > Ubuntu derivatives walkthrough in the installation guide > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Full_install_walkthrough_Ubuntu_derivatives> > for these. Specifically for Ubuntu derivatives spell checking, > geography view and exiv image data require installation of source > components. > > /_Windows_/: Much work has been done the last months to obtain the > stack needed for Gramps on Windows. At the moment only a rough guide > on source installation > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Run_Gramps40_for_Windows_from_source_using_Python_2.7.3> > is present. We hope this will allow windows developers to construct an > AIO installer as for the 3.4 version. > > See the Changelog > <http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/changelog_page.php?version_id=38> > for more details. > > You can get Gramps 4.0.0 from the download page > <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download>. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
From: Jérôme <rom...@ya...> - 2013-05-21 16:40:27
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Jean, > when I try and download the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu > Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject > (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I can get > the major update? Both 'gramps-4.0.0.tar.gz' and 'gramps_4.0.0_all.deb' files will complain about python-gobject >=3.3.2 because you need at least python-gobject 3.3.2 for new version 4.0[1]! According to the python-gobject version(s) used by your OS: Gramps 3.4.x cannot use greater versions than 2.28.x Gramps 4.0.x needs at least python-gobject (python-gi) 3.3.2 and it runs better with python-gobject 3.4.0 ! Ubuntu is using transitional version(s) for some Gtk3 apps (python-gobject 3.x), but it seems that prior to Ubuntu 13.04, none of them will be able to run Gramps 4.0 with provided packages by default. As workaround you can compile at least version 3.3.2 of python-gobject, see http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_029:_GTK3-GObject_introspection_Conversion [1] Requirements -------------------------------- The following packages *MUST* be installed in order for Gramps to work: * Python 2.7 or greater, Python 3.2 or greater (or both python versions) * GTK 3.0 or greater * pygobject 3.3.2 or greater * cairo, pango, pangocairo with introspection bindings (the gi packages) * librsvg2 (svg icon view) * xdg-utils * bsddb3 is required for Python 3.2 (not python 2.7) http://sourceforge.net/p/gramps/code/HEAD/tree/branches/maintenance/gramps40/README?format=raw Le 21/05/2013 17:07, Jean McClendon a écrit : > I have the version 3.4.4.1 installed on Ubuntu but when I try and > download the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu > Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject > (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I can get > the major update? I had installed the 3.4.4.1 also through Source and it > is supposed to have everything I need from that site so am not sure what > is going on. Thanks. Jean > > On 05/21/2013 07:33 AM, jerome wrote: >> >> *Version 4.0.0, the "The Miracle of Birth", has been released. * >> >> This is a major release, don't upgrade before verifying your system >> can run it. >> >> As one of the very first big ($5.4 millions >> <http://www.ohloh.net/p/gramps/estimated_cost>), multi-platform >> (Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, ...), non-Gnome GTK applications, Gramps >> makes the jump to GTK 3. At the same time python 2.7 and python 3 are >> supported, though the last must still be considered experimental. >> Gramps *4.0* further uses distutils for distribution, so the install >> sequence is changed. >> >> The Gramps developers have tried to make Gramps *4.0* as identical as >> possible to *3.4*, so no data changes are done, nor are there big >> interface changes. In other words, a .gramps backup file of version >> *4.0* will open without problems in Gramps *3.4*, giving users the >> possibility to fully try Gramps *4.0*. >> >> Don't be mistaken though, a _huge amount of code is new and changed_! >> In order to bring this release we thank the many developers who helped >> the GTK support on Mac, Windows and Linux forward. Note however, >> Gramps *4.0* will only work on a top of a very recent sortware stack. >> A Windows installer will probably not be available soon. In Linux >> current distro's don't contain the optional packages in the form >> Gramps *4.0* needs. All this should make clear you can safely keep >> using version *3.4* and wait for packagers to catch up. People who >> cannot upgrade the required components but want to use Gramps *4.0* >> should use it in Virtualbox <https://www.virtualbox.org/>. >> >> *Before Upgrade* >> >> Before you upgrade, make sure your family tree data is secure. The >> best way to do this is: >> >> 1. Start Gramps *3.4* >> >> 2. Open your family tree >> >> 3. Export the family tree to the gramps xml format or the gramps xml >> package format (which includes your photographs and other media files >> associated with your family tree data). >> >> 4. Export your tree via menu Family Trees->Backup.... >> >> 5. Close this family tree and repeat the above steps for any other >> family trees you have >> >> 6. Keep the resulting file(s) in a safe place >> >> *Overview of big changes* >> >> * Conversion to GTK 3 and use of gobject introspection, GEPS 029 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_029:_GTK3-GObject_introspection_Conversion> >> >> >> * Support for python 3, GEPS 031 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_031:_Python_3_support> >> >> >> * Code reorganization, GEPS 008 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_008:_File_Organization> >> >> >> * Autotools is no longer used for building Gramps, distutils is used, >> GEPS 026 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_026:_Replace_%27make%27_for_Gramps_build> >> >> >> * Completely reworked localization handling >> >> *Overview of visible changes* >> >> See screenshots >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_4.0_Wiki_Manual_-_What%27s_new%3F>. >> >> >> * The Gramplet view has been renamed Dashboard. This to avoid an >> overload of the word Gramplet, and to make it more clear to new users >> what can be expected in this view. >> >> * GTK 3 uses new themes, so users not on Gnome must set a nice GTK 3 >> theme to fully appreciate Gramps 4.0. Install a GTK 3 theme and set >> it. If Gramps looks ugly, you made an error in this step. >> >> * Different sidebar navigators can be installed. >> >> * New Ancestor Fan Chart View and Descendant Fan Chart View, which >> offer a lot of insight in your family tree on a small space. Direct >> printing is available from these views. >> >> * All wizards are reworked, so the exporter dialog, help and bug >> report dialog are different from version 3.4, but offer the same >> functions >> >> * New To Do Gramplets listing all To Do Notes >> >> * More reports support output in a different language than the >> interface language >> >> * Narrative Web has been reworked to make it more stable. >> >> *Installation status* >> >> /_OS X_/: Mac OS X will see an official installer shortly after >> release with all components >> >> /_Linux_/: We expect Linux packages for different distributions. >> Gramps 4.0 will only work on distributions released since October >> 2012, use virtualbox for older distributions. Some optional >> dependencies are not available yet on most distribution at the time of >> release. If you want those, you need to install them from source, see >> Ubuntu derivatives walkthrough in the installation guide >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Full_install_walkthrough_Ubuntu_derivatives> >> for these. Specifically for Ubuntu derivatives spell checking, >> geography view and exiv image data require installation of source >> components. >> >> /_Windows_/: Much work has been done the last months to obtain the >> stack needed for Gramps on Windows. At the moment only a rough guide >> on source installation >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Run_Gramps40_for_Windows_from_source_using_Python_2.7.3> >> is present. We hope this will allow windows developers to construct an >> AIO installer as for the 3.4 version. >> >> See the Changelog >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/changelog_page.php?version_id=38> >> for more details. >> >> You can get Gramps 4.0.0 from the download page >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download>. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring >> service >> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your >> browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic >> and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Ron J. <ron...@co...> - 2013-05-21 16:16:00
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Jerome clearly wrote, "/Linux current distro's don't contain the optional packages in the form Gramps //*4.0*//needs/" and "/Gramps 4.0 will only work on distributions released since October 2012/". So, which Ubuntu release are you running? On 05/21/2013 10:07 AM, Jean McClendon wrote: > I have the version 3.4.4.1 installed on Ubuntu but when I try and download > the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu Software Center > says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject (>=3.3.2) what is my > problem and how do I correct it so that I can get the major update? I had > installed the 3.4.4.1 also through Source and it is supposed to have > everything I need from that site so am not sure what is going on. Thanks. > Jean > > On 05/21/2013 07:33 AM, jerome wrote: >> >> *Version 4.0.0, the "The Miracle of Birth", has been released. * >> >> This is a major release, don't upgrade before verifying your system can >> run it. >> >> As one of the very first big ($5.4 millions >> <http://www.ohloh.net/p/gramps/estimated_cost>), multi-platform (Linux, >> Windows, Mac OS X, ...), non-Gnome GTK applications, Gramps makes the >> jump to GTK 3. At the same time python 2.7 and python 3 are supported, >> though the last must still be considered experimental. Gramps *4.0* >> further uses distutils for distribution, so the install sequence is changed. >> >> The Gramps developers have tried to make Gramps *4.0* as identical as >> possible to *3.4*, so no data changes are done, nor are there big >> interface changes. In other words, a .gramps backup file of version *4.0* >> will open without problems in Gramps *3.4*, giving users the possibility >> to fully try Gramps *4.0*. >> >> Don't be mistaken though, a _huge amount of code is new and changed_! In >> order to bring this release we thank the many developers who helped the >> GTK support on Mac, Windows and Linux forward. Note however, Gramps *4.0* >> will only work on a top of a very recent sortware stack. A Windows >> installer will probably not be available soon. In Linux current distro's >> don't contain the optional packages in the form Gramps *4.0* needs. All >> this should make clear you can safely keep using version *3.4* and wait >> for packagers to catch up. People who cannot upgrade the required >> components but want to use Gramps *4.0* should use it in Virtualbox >> <https://www.virtualbox.org/>. >> >> *Before Upgrade* >> >> Before you upgrade, make sure your family tree data is secure. The best >> way to do this is: >> >> 1. Start Gramps *3.4* >> >> 2. Open your family tree >> >> 3. Export the family tree to the gramps xml format or the gramps xml >> package format (which includes your photographs and other media files >> associated with your family tree data). >> >> 4. Export your tree via menu Family Trees->Backup.... >> >> 5. Close this family tree and repeat the above steps for any other family >> trees you have >> >> 6. Keep the resulting file(s) in a safe place >> >> *Overview of big changes* >> >> * Conversion to GTK 3 and use of gobject introspection, GEPS 029 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_029:_GTK3-GObject_introspection_Conversion> >> >> * Support for python 3, GEPS 031 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_031:_Python_3_support> >> >> * Code reorganization, GEPS 008 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_008:_File_Organization> >> >> * Autotools is no longer used for building Gramps, distutils is used, >> GEPS 026 >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_026:_Replace_%27make%27_for_Gramps_build> >> >> * Completely reworked localization handling >> >> *Overview of visible changes* >> >> See screenshots >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_4.0_Wiki_Manual_-_What%27s_new%3F>. >> >> * The Gramplet view has been renamed Dashboard. This to avoid an overload >> of the word Gramplet, and to make it more clear to new users what can be >> expected in this view. >> >> * GTK 3 uses new themes, so users not on Gnome must set a nice GTK 3 >> theme to fully appreciate Gramps 4.0. Install a GTK 3 theme and set it. >> If Gramps looks ugly, you made an error in this step. >> >> * Different sidebar navigators can be installed. >> >> * New Ancestor Fan Chart View and Descendant Fan Chart View, which offer >> a lot of insight in your family tree on a small space. Direct printing is >> available from these views. >> >> * All wizards are reworked, so the exporter dialog, help and bug report >> dialog are different from version 3.4, but offer the same functions >> >> * New To Do Gramplets listing all To Do Notes >> >> * More reports support output in a different language than the interface >> language >> >> * Narrative Web has been reworked to make it more stable. >> >> *Installation status* >> >> /_OS X_/: Mac OS X will see an official installer shortly after release >> with all components >> >> /_Linux_/: We expect Linux packages for different distributions. Gramps >> 4.0 will only work on distributions released since October 2012, use >> virtualbox for older distributions. Some optional dependencies are not >> available yet on most distribution at the time of release. If you want >> those, you need to install them from source, see Ubuntu derivatives >> walkthrough in the installation guide >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Full_install_walkthrough_Ubuntu_derivatives> >> for these. Specifically for Ubuntu derivatives spell checking, geography >> view and exiv image data require installation of source components. >> >> /_Windows_/: Much work has been done the last months to obtain the stack >> needed for Gramps on Windows. At the moment only a rough guide on source >> installation >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Run_Gramps40_for_Windows_from_source_using_Python_2.7.3> >> is present. We hope this will allow windows developers to construct an >> AIO installer as for the 3.4 version. >> >> See the Changelog >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/changelog_page.php?version_id=38> for >> more details. >> >> You can get Gramps 4.0.0 from the download page >> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download>. >> -- "There are no solutions; there are only tradeoffs." Thomas Sowell |
From: Tim L. <guy...@gm...> - 2013-05-21 18:04:17
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Jean McClendon wrote > I have the version 3.4.4.1 installed on Ubuntu but when I try and > download the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu > Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject > (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I can get > the major update? I had installed the 3.4.4.1 also through Source and it > is supposed to have everything I need from that site so am not sure what > is going on. Thanks. Jean When you say you downloaded the source, did you download gramps-4.0.0.tar.gz or gramps_4.0.0_all.deb? I have just revised the 'Downloads' page to make things clearer. If you look at http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download#Linux:_Install_latest_version, you will see that you are warned that upgrading a major version change is somewhat unlikely to work. What link did you use to find the file to download - I am just interested to see whether there is something else that I need to revise to make things clear. By the way, if you want to try again, your best course is to upgrade Ubuntu to 12.10, that should be able to satisfy most of the dependencies. Upgrading Ubuntu through the software centre is fairly straightforward (I have done that, but I have not actually tried installing Gramps 4.0.0 from the .deb file). regards, Tim. -- View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Gramps-4-0-0-The-The-Miracle-of-Birth-a-new-major-release-tp4660315p4660333.html Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Jérôme <rom...@ya...> - 2013-05-21 18:35:30
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Note, the database model/schema is the same between Gramps 3.4.x and 4.0.x, only Gramps' libs and some new features have been added to 4.0.0 branch. Need to migrate interface and to *start* to support new libs. We will still release stable versions on 3.4.x (3.4.5, 3.4.6, ...). :) Gramps is a new major release, you do not need to upgrade if Gramps 3.4.x is working fine. You just to know that when Ubuntu will no more provide support for your configuration, you will find Gramps 4.0.x on next generation of Ubuntu like 14.04LTS, planned for next year. Jérôme Le 21/05/2013 18:50, Jean McClendon a écrit : > I am not sure I can figure out how to do all of the below as I am 63 > years old and although I can update a complete file, I just do not know > how to compile what is needed to make sure I get the proper file. How > long will it be before everything that is needed is placed in the update > so I get everything at once? Otherwise I will just have to keep using > 3.4.4.1 until you do. Jean > On 05/21/2013 11:40 AM, Jérôme wrote: >> Jean, >> >>> when I try and download the new version 4.0 through source this is >>> what my Ubuntu >>> Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject >>> (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I canget >>> the major update? >> Both 'gramps-4.0.0.tar.gz' and 'gramps_4.0.0_all.deb' files will >> complain about python-gobject >=3.3.2 because you need at least >> python-gobject 3.3.2 for new version 4.0[1]! >> >> According to the python-gobject version(s) used by your OS: >> >> Gramps 3.4.x cannot use greater versions than 2.28.x >> Gramps 4.0.x needs at least python-gobject (python-gi) 3.3.2 >> and it runs better with python-gobject 3.4.0 ! >> >> Ubuntu is using transitional version(s) for some Gtk3 apps >> (python-gobject 3.x), but it seems that prior to Ubuntu 13.04, none of >> them will be able to run Gramps 4.0 with provided packages by default. >> >> As workaround you can compile at least version 3.3.2 of python-gobject, >> see >> http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_029:_GTK3-GObject_introspection_Conversion >> >> >> >> [1] Requirements >> -------------------------------- >> The following packages *MUST* be installed in order for Gramps to work: >> * Python 2.7 or greater, Python 3.2 or greater (or both python >> versions) >> * GTK 3.0 or greater >> * pygobject 3.3.2 or greater >> * cairo, pango, pangocairo with introspection bindings (the gi >> packages) >> * librsvg2 (svg icon view) >> * xdg-utils >> * bsddb3 is required for Python 3.2 (not python 2.7) >> >> http://sourceforge.net/p/gramps/code/HEAD/tree/branches/maintenance/gramps40/README?format=raw >> >> >> >> Le 21/05/2013 17:07, Jean McClendon a écrit : >>> I have the version 3.4.4.1 installed on Ubuntu but when I try and >>> download the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu >>> Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject >>> (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I canget >>> the major update? I had installed the 3.4.4.1 also through Source andit >>> is supposed to have everything I need from that site so am not sure what >>> is going on. Thanks. Jean >>> >>> On 05/21/2013 07:33 AM, jerome wrote: >>>> *Version 4.0.0, the "The Miracle of Birth", has been released. * >>>> >>>> This is a major release, don't upgrade before verifying your system >>>> can run it. >>>> >>>> As one of the very first big ($5.4 millions >>>> <http://www.ohloh.net/p/gramps/estimated_cost>), multi-platform >>>> (Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, ...), non-Gnome GTK applications, Gramps >>>> makes the jump to GTK 3. At the same time python 2.7 and python 3 are >>>> supported, though the last must still be considered experimental. >>>> Gramps *4.0* further uses distutils for distribution, so the install >>>> sequence is changed. >>>> >>>> The Gramps developers have tried to make Gramps *4.0* as identical as >>>> possible to *3.4*, so no data changes are done, nor are there big >>>> interface changes. In other words, a .gramps backup file of version >>>> *4.0* will open without problems in Gramps *3.4*, giving users the >>>> possibility to fully try Gramps *4.0*. >>>> >>>> Don't be mistaken though, a _huge amount of code is new and changed_! >>>> In order to bring this release we thank the many developers who helped >>>> the GTK support on Mac, Windows and Linux forward. Note however, >>>> Gramps *4.0* will only work on a top of a very recent sortware stack. >>>> A Windows installer will probably not be available soon. In Linux >>>> current distro's don't contain the optional packages in the form >>>> Gramps *4.0* needs. All this should make clear you can safely keep >>>> using version *3.4* and wait for packagers to catch up. People who >>>> cannot upgrade the required components but want to use Gramps *4.0* >>>> should use it in Virtualbox <https://www.virtualbox.org/>. >>>> >>>> *Before Upgrade* >>>> >>>> Before you upgrade, make sure your family tree data is secure. The >>>> best way to do this is: >>>> >>>> 1. Start Gramps *3.4* >>>> >>>> 2. Open your family tree >>>> >>>> 3. Export the family tree to the gramps xml format or the gramps xml >>>> package format (which includes your photographs and other media files >>>> associated with your family tree data). >>>> >>>> 4. Export your tree via menu Family Trees->Backup.... >>>> >>>> 5. Close this family tree and repeat the above steps for any other >>>> family trees you have >>>> >>>> 6. Keep the resulting file(s) in a safe place >>>> >>>> *Overview of big changes* >>>> >>>> * Conversion to GTK 3 and use of gobject introspection, GEPS 029 >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_029:_GTK3-GObject_introspection_Conversion> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * Support for python 3, GEPS 031 >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_031:_Python_3_support> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * Code reorganization, GEPS 008 >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_008:_File_Organization> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * Autotools is no longer used for building Gramps, distutils is used, >>>> GEPS 026 >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=GEPS_026:_Replace_%27make%27_for_Gramps_build> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * Completely reworked localization handling >>>> >>>> *Overview of visible changes* >>>> >>>> See screenshots >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_4.0_Wiki_Manual_-_What%27s_new%3F>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * The Gramplet view has been renamed Dashboard. This to avoid an >>>> overload of the word Gramplet, and to make it more clear to new users >>>> what can be expected in this view. >>>> >>>> * GTK 3 uses new themes, so users not on Gnome must set a nice GTK 3 >>>> theme to fully appreciate Gramps 4.0. Install a GTK 3 theme and set >>>> it. If Gramps looks ugly, you made an error in this step. >>>> >>>> * Different sidebar navigators can be installed. >>>> >>>> * New Ancestor Fan Chart View and Descendant Fan Chart View, which >>>> offer a lot of insight in your family tree on a small space. Direct >>>> printing is available from these views. >>>> >>>> * All wizards are reworked, so the exporter dialog, help and bug >>>> report dialog are different from version 3.4, but offer the same >>>> functions >>>> >>>> * New To Do Gramplets listing all To Do Notes >>>> >>>> * More reports support output in a different language than the >>>> interface language >>>> >>>> * Narrative Web has been reworked to make it more stable. >>>> >>>> *Installation status* >>>> >>>> /_OS X_/: Mac OS X will see an official installer shortly after >>>> release with all components >>>> >>>> /_Linux_/: We expect Linux packages for different distributions. >>>> Gramps 4.0 will only work on distributions released since October >>>> 2012, use virtualbox for older distributions. Some optional >>>> dependencies are not available yet on most distribution at the time of >>>> release. If you want those, you need to install them from source, see >>>> Ubuntu derivatives walkthrough in the installation guide >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Full_install_walkthrough_Ubuntu_derivatives> >>>> >>>> for these. Specifically for Ubuntu derivatives spell checking, >>>> geography view and exiv image data require installation of source >>>> components. >>>> >>>> /_Windows_/: Much work has been done the last months to obtain the >>>> stack needed for Gramps on Windows. At the moment only a rough guide >>>> on source installation >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Run_Gramps40_for_Windows_from_source_using_Python_2.7.3> >>>> >>>> is present. We hope this will allow windows developers to construct an >>>> AIO installer as for the 3.4 version. >>>> >>>> See the Changelog >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/bugs/changelog_page.php?version_id=38> >>>> for more details. >>>> >>>> You can get Gramps 4.0.0 from the download page >>>> <http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >>>> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring >>>> service >>>> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your >>>> browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. 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From: Jean M. <jea...@gm...> - 2013-05-21 20:00:38
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I clicked at the bottom of the original email where it said "Download" then when the Download page came up I clicked right next to the little penguin under Linux where it said "Source", I figured that was where I was supposed to go. I found where my Unbutu software center is but wasn't sure where to look for the 12.10 to upgrade. Usually my son tries to help me but right now he is involved in getting emergency cell phones out for communications during our disastrous tornado in Moore, Oklahoma. Jean On 05/21/2013 01:03 PM, Tim Lyons wrote: > Jean McClendon wrote >> I have the version 3.4.4.1 installed on Ubuntu but when I try and >> download the new version 4.0 through source this is what my Ubuntu >> Software Center says "Dependecy is not satisfiable: python-gobject >> (>=3.3.2) what is my problem and how do I correct it so that I can get >> the major update? I had installed the 3.4.4.1 also through Source and it >> is supposed to have everything I need from that site so am not sure what >> is going on. Thanks. Jean > When you say you downloaded the source, did you download gramps-4.0.0.tar.gz > or gramps_4.0.0_all.deb? > > I have just revised the 'Downloads' page to make things clearer. > > If you look at > http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Download#Linux:_Install_latest_version, > you will see that you are warned that upgrading a major version change is > somewhat unlikely to work. > > What link did you use to find the file to download - I am just interested to > see whether there is something else that I need to revise to make things > clear. > > By the way, if you want to try again, your best course is to upgrade Ubuntu > to 12.10, that should be able to satisfy most of the dependencies. Upgrading > Ubuntu through the software centre is fairly straightforward (I have done > that, but I have not actually tried installing Gramps 4.0.0 from the .deb > file). > > regards, > Tim. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Gramps-4-0-0-The-The-Miracle-of-Birth-a-new-major-release-tp4660315p4660333.html > Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |
From: Tim L. <guy...@gm...> - 2013-05-21 22:48:31
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Jean McClendon wrote > I clicked at the bottom of the original email where it said "Download" > then when the Download page came up I clicked right next to the little > penguin under Linux where it said "Source", I figured that was where I > was supposed to go. Thanks, that was exactly the information I wanted. Jean McClendon wrote > I found where my Unbutu software center is but wasn't sure where to look > for the 12.10 to upgrade. Usually my son tries to help me but right now > he is involved in getting emergency cell phones out for communications > during our disastrous tornado in Moore, Oklahoma. Jean The instructions for upgrading Ubuntu are here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10 But if I were you I would wait till my son got back to help, just in case anything goes wrong!! regards, Tim. -- View this message in context: http://gramps.1791082.n4.nabble.com/Gramps-4-0-0-The-The-Miracle-of-Birth-a-new-major-release-tp4660315p4660339.html Sent from the GRAMPS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2013-05-21 22:56:03
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On 22-05-13 00:48, Tim Lyons wrote: > The instructions for upgrading Ubuntu are here: > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10 > > But if I were you I would wait till my son got back to help, just in case > anything goes wrong!! Good advice. And for 4.0, it may be worth upgrading to 13.04 right away. But that's another thing, later. take care, Enno |
From: Paul F. <pf....@gm...> - 2013-05-22 02:57:19
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> Good advice. And for 4.0, it may be worth upgrading to 13.04 right away. Be aware that if you switch to 13.04 you will instantly be at the "bleeding edge" of gramps users. The last 13.04 bug was fixed 20 May, barely getting into the 4.0.0 release. |
From: jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2013-05-22 08:33:21
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Note, moving from 12.04LTS, you will have a shorter OS support! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS --- En date de : Mer 22.5.13, Paul Franklin <pf....@gm...> a écrit : > De: Paul Franklin <pf....@gm...> > Objet: Re: [Gramps-users] Gramps 4.0.0 (The "The Miracle of Birth" a new major release) > À: gra...@li... > Date: Mercredi 22 mai 2013, 4h57 > > Good advice. And for 4.0, it may > be worth upgrading to 13.04 right away. > > Be aware that if you switch to 13.04 you will instantly be > at the "bleeding edge" of gramps users. The last 13.04 > bug > was fixed 20 May, barely getting into the 4.0.0 release. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance > monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and > monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. > Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: Enno B. <enn...@gm...> - 2013-05-22 13:46:55
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I know, but given the repots on Ubuntu 13.04, I thought that it was worth a try. To test this, I installed Linux Mint 15 RC today, which is based on Ubuntu 13.04, and downloaded the 4.0 DEB. On double clicking that, I got a warning that an older supported version was available in the repo, but after ignoring that, installation ran OK. So, to sum up, version 4.0 seems to be fine for aunt Martha to install, on Mint 15, and Ubuntu 13.04. Good news, I think. Enno P.S. Paul, sorry for sending to you twice. Forgot to select reply all. 2013/5/22 Paul Franklin <pf....@gm...> > > Good advice. And for 4.0, it may be worth upgrading to 13.04 right away. > > Be aware that if you switch to 13.04 you will instantly be > at the "bleeding edge" of gramps users. The last 13.04 bug > was fixed 20 May, barely getting into the 4.0.0 release. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt > New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service > that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your > browser, app, & servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic > and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |