From: James B. <ja...@xm...> - 2009-02-25 23:57:35
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A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one can also make it a personal event for each party. But why not get Gramps to do this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an individual, one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. James Bridge |
From: Emrys W. <emr...@ev...> - 2009-02-26 13:05:32
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And the same idea can apply to births, too. Birth is an important event for the birth mother as well as for the child. Listing births automatically for a mother makes it much easier to notice children being born infeasibly close or far apart. Emrys Williams 2009/2/25 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one can also > make it a personal event for each party. But why not get Gramps to do > this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an individual, > one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. > > James Bridge > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Doug B. <dou...@gm...> - 2009-03-02 12:27:56
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James and Emrys, I agree with both of you that it would be nice to show those events for the related people, but, as Benny said, we don't need to necessarily duplicate the information. I've been working on a Timeline Gramplet that shows all of the related dated-items and related events on a line. As a default, I would think that one might want to see at least some of the events of the parents, spouses, and children of a person, but it should be easy to add people to this view. There are lots of dates sprinkled throughout gramps that aren't associated with an Event. This view would brings those out as well. If you have ideas on what this might include, or look like, please let me know. -Doug On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Emrys Williams < emr...@ev...> wrote: > And the same idea can apply to births, too. Birth is an important event for > the birth mother as well as for the child. Listing births automatically for > a mother makes it much easier to notice children being born infeasibly close > or far apart. > > Emrys Williams > > 2009/2/25 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > > A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one can also >> make it a personal event for each party. But why not get Gramps to do >> this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an individual, >> one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. >> >> James Bridge >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, >> CA >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the >> Enterprise >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >> participation >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: >> SFAD >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-users mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > > |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2009-03-02 09:42:45
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2009/2/26 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one can also > make it a personal event for each party. But why not get Gramps to do > this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an individual, > one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. > There is no reason to store it like that. It is perfectly deducible from the information present. So one can write a gramplet or change the relationship view to show these things with the information present. The relationship view makes the marriage however already very clear, no? Perhaps you don't like that the event list in person or family editor does not show the other events? If you can think of a way to show the family events of a person in a non-intrusive way in the person editor let us know. Benny > James Bridge > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users > |
From: James B. <ja...@xm...> - 2009-03-02 11:00:06
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On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 10:42 +0100, Benny Malengier wrote: > 2009/2/26 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one > can also > make it a personal event for each party. But why not get > Gramps to do > this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an > individual, > one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. > > There is no reason to store it like that. It is perfectly deducible > from the information present. So one can write a gramplet or change > the relationship view to show these things with the information > present. > > The relationship view makes the marriage however already very clear, > no? > Perhaps you don't like that the event list in person or family editor > does not show the other events? If you can think of a way to show the > family events of a person in a non-intrusive way in the person editor > let us know. > I agree it doesn't make sense to store the same event more than once, but I would like the option to show marriages on the list of personal events. After all, if you enter a new personal event, one of the options is "marriage", though it doesn't create a new family. This means that some marriages are personal events and others are family ones. Fine once you have got familiar with the program but it got me confused initially. James Bridge |
From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2009-03-02 11:55:57
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2009/3/2 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 10:42 +0100, Benny Malengier wrote: > > 2009/2/26 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > > A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one > > can also > > make it a personal event for each party. But why not get > > Gramps to do > > this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an > > individual, > > one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. > > > > There is no reason to store it like that. It is perfectly deducible > > from the information present. So one can write a gramplet or change > > the relationship view to show these things with the information > > present. > > > > The relationship view makes the marriage however already very clear, > > no? > > Perhaps you don't like that the event list in person or family editor > > does not show the other events? If you can think of a way to show the > > family events of a person in a non-intrusive way in the person editor > > let us know. > > > > I agree it doesn't make sense to store the same event more than once, > but I would like the option to show marriages on the list of personal > events. After all, if you enter a new personal event, one of the options > is "marriage", though it doesn't create a new family. This means that > some marriages are personal events and others are family ones. Fine once > you have got familiar with the program but it got me confused initially. > One of the suggestions for version 3.3 of GRAMPS is to rework the event system, adding subtypes, manage events that are seen, ... You see the same types in family and person events because GRAMPS defines all types known from GEDCOM plus some extra, and just shows all those to select from without distinction of the use case. Benny > > James Bridge > > > > |
From: Tobias G. <to...@ge...> - 2009-03-02 14:14:00
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Hi, and what is with such attributes like age at marriage or other attributes that are different for bride and groom? These are personal attributes and should thus go into the local references, don't they? And the same goes for the witnesses. As I understood it, one should add a reference to a specific event to every person that has been a witness to this event. Or am I wrong here? After all when using references, the event is not stored more than once, but merely the reference and local attributes to that event!? When using the reports though, it will display the events twice, if I remember this correctly. MfG Tobias Am Montag, den 02.03.2009, 11:00 +0000 schrieb James Bridge: > On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 10:42 +0100, Benny Malengier wrote: > > 2009/2/26 James Bridge <ja...@xm...> > > A marriage is a family event. Since events can be shared, one > > can also > > make it a personal event for each party. But why not get > > Gramps to do > > this automatically? Then, when looking at the events for an > > individual, > > one would see the marriage as well as birth, death etc. > > > > There is no reason to store it like that. It is perfectly deducible > > from the information present. So one can write a gramplet or change > > the relationship view to show these things with the information > > present. > > > > The relationship view makes the marriage however already very clear, > > no? > > Perhaps you don't like that the event list in person or family editor > > does not show the other events? If you can think of a way to show the > > family events of a person in a non-intrusive way in the person editor > > let us know. > > > > I agree it doesn't make sense to store the same event more than once, > but I would like the option to show marriages on the list of personal > events. After all, if you enter a new personal event, one of the options > is "marriage", though it doesn't create a new family. This means that > some marriages are personal events and others are family ones. Fine once > you have got familiar with the program but it got me confused initially. > > James Bridge > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-users mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-users |