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From: Nick W. <ni...@be...> - 2011-06-26 06:52:00
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The wiki is back up again... I've installed a form of page caching that *might* alleviate the problems relating to high demands on the MySQL database server. For some/many pages, it *might* give better performance, but it is a pretty low-level sort of caching, and still will not give bullet-proof reduction in server loading. To avoid causing our hosting service problems (which would lead to them suspending the account) I'll keep a close eye on the loading, and would appreciate any comments on performance (you can email me direct to avoid changing the focus of this list!) Nick W. ni...@gr... ni...@be... |
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From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 08:30:38
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Thanks Nick. I suppose we must assume the most logical cause: we actually get a lot of traffic. Who knew, users are reading the help pages after all? Do you have an idea of the unique addresses that visit on a day? If that is the culprit, I suppose for the next version we should investigate if we can extract some sort of docbook out of the wiki manual. But that was a lot of work which we tried to avoid by the simple wiki help/manual. Benny 2011/6/26 Nick Wallingford <ni...@be...> > The wiki is back up again... I've installed a form of page caching that > *might* alleviate the problems relating to high demands on the MySQL > database server. For some/many pages, it *might* give better > performance, but it is a pretty low-level sort of caching, and still > will not give bullet-proof reduction in server loading. > > To avoid causing our hosting service problems (which would lead to them > suspending the account) I'll keep a close eye on the loading, and would > appreciate any comments on performance (you can email me direct to avoid > changing the focus of this list!) > > Nick W. > ni...@gr... > ni...@be... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
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From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 08:40:17
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As a general point, this shows how much our data is tied to a server somewhere. Do you have a backup of the wiki data outside of hostdime? Should we have that? We could provide a 2TB or so disk for you from the donations. If you can define in the caching what to cash per preference, then all titles with manual in it seems a logical choice. Benny 2011/6/26 Benny Malengier <ben...@gm...> > Thanks Nick. > > I suppose we must assume the most logical cause: we actually get a lot of > traffic. > Who knew, users are reading the help pages after all? Do you have an idea > of the unique addresses that visit on a day? > > If that is the culprit, I suppose for the next version we should > investigate if we can extract some sort of docbook out of the wiki manual. > But that was a lot of work which we tried to avoid by the simple wiki > help/manual. > > Benny > > > 2011/6/26 Nick Wallingford <ni...@be...> > >> The wiki is back up again... I've installed a form of page caching that >> *might* alleviate the problems relating to high demands on the MySQL >> database server. For some/many pages, it *might* give better >> performance, but it is a pretty low-level sort of caching, and still >> will not give bullet-proof reduction in server loading. >> >> To avoid causing our hosting service problems (which would lead to them >> suspending the account) I'll keep a close eye on the loading, and would >> appreciate any comments on performance (you can email me direct to avoid >> changing the focus of this list!) >> >> Nick W. >> ni...@gr... >> ni...@be... >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 >> _______________________________________________ >> Gramps-devel mailing list >> Gra...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel >> > > |
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From: Jason S. <jsi...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 12:56:56
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On 06/26/2011 03:30 AM, Benny Malengier wrote: > I suppose we must assume the most logical cause: we actually get a lot > of traffic. > Who knew, users are reading the help pages after all? Do you have an > idea of the unique addresses that visit on a day? Speaking of traffic, I've gone ahead and setup Google Analytics for gramps-project.org. I've added the necessary tracking code to the WordPress site. The service is FREE but it is also proprietary. You guys tell me if you don't like this idea, but it sounds like it would be good if we were a bit more aware of how many people are visiting our site. I made the mistake of suggesting a proprietary service to the Gimp mailing list and the torches came out, so please, if there IS some philosophical problem with using this service, just say so. I'm not a warlock trying to conjure spells or anything. ;) If you guys like the idea I'll talk to Nick W. about adding the necessary javascript to the Wiki pages. If you don't like it I'll simply delete the account and remove the code from the WordPress site. If you would like to have access to the Analytics info, I think it's just a matter of me submitting your email address as an "admin", so just let me know. Jason Simanek |
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From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 13:55:29
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For me this is ok. If you could give a status to the devel mailing list every semester/trimester, that would be great. We have some idea of the trafick due to the link to sourceforge, but their statistics is not the best. There was a peak of 2500 SFlogo requests the day before the outage. In case you have access to this on sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=25770&ugn=gramps&mode=week&type=sfweb The trend is upward, but months ago, we also reached 2000 from time to time. Anyway, 2500 users doesn't sound like a lot to me, although, that's 100 in an hour or almost 2 per minute. The gramps application links directly into help pages on the wiki though, so the traffic like that is not measured. The downloads dropped to 100 yesterday during the outage, from 320 the day before. I really have no idea where all these people come from, google analytics probably gives spread over OS, region, ... Benny 2011/6/26 Jason Simanek <jsi...@gm...> > > On 06/26/2011 03:30 AM, Benny Malengier wrote: > > I suppose we must assume the most logical cause: we actually get a lot > > of traffic. > > Who knew, users are reading the help pages after all? Do you have an > > idea of the unique addresses that visit on a day? > > Speaking of traffic, I've gone ahead and setup Google Analytics for > gramps-project.org. I've added the necessary tracking code to the > WordPress site. > > The service is FREE but it is also proprietary. You guys tell me if you > don't like this idea, but it sounds like it would be good if we were a > bit more aware of how many people are visiting our site. I made the > mistake of suggesting a proprietary service to the Gimp mailing list and > the torches came out, so please, if there IS some philosophical problem > with using this service, just say so. I'm not a warlock trying to > conjure spells or anything. ;) > > If you guys like the idea I'll talk to Nick W. about adding the > necessary javascript to the Wiki pages. If you don't like it I'll simply > delete the account and remove the code from the WordPress site. > > If you would like to have access to the Analytics info, I think it's > just a matter of me submitting your email address as an "admin", so just > let me know. > > Jason Simanek > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
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From: Jason S. <jsi...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 14:11:31
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On 06/26/2011 08:55 AM, Benny Malengier wrote: > For me this is ok. > If you could give a status to the devel mailing list every > semester/trimester, that would be great. I can setup an automatic email that will include a PDF with details for a specified period of time. Would that be okay to send to the dev list? > There was a peak of 2500 SFlogo requests the day before the outage. Sounds like a large number considering how the number of people in the world interested in genealogical research is already a small fraction of the population. :D > I really have no idea where all these people come from, > google analytics probably gives spread over OS, region, ... Yeah, it'll break down the visitors by OS, OS version, web browser, web browser version, geographical location, screen size, etc. It's a very good service. I use it at my day job, a national U.S. magazine: Country Weekly (any country music fans on here?) and for freelance sites. |
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From: Jason S. <jsi...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 14:23:01
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On 06/26/2011 09:08 AM, Jérôme wrote: > I just see one limitation ... > It is free/gratis, if pages per month < 5 000 000 ! > Yes, that's very limit for gramps-project.org ;) Indeed, we'll have to keep our eye on the total impressions! > I just wonder what could be possible associations (keys for google) with > gramps' content on current wordpress ? Not sure I understand the question. Are you asking about keywords that people use to search and find Gramps? GAnalytics will also tell us the origin of our visitors, whether it be direct or from other sites: Google, Facebook, Twitter, some other site that links to us. > I guess we already used some 'gratis' modules on wordpress before ? > So, I do not have some philosophical problems with Google Analytics, but > it is just me. I think the multi-language plugin was closest in business model. To me, there's nothing wrong with paying for software or service. I am more in the Linus Torvalds camp than the Richard Stallman camp. If people want to help eachother, pool their efforts and share the result, that's great, but that doesn't make creating something for profit evil. Especially if its reasonably priced. Speaking of which, I need to check the price on that muliple language pluin we WERE using before it "went commercial" ... not a lot of other solutions that are as easy to implement and manage out there. It really was slick and might be worth a few bucks.... |
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From: Jérôme <rom...@ya...> - 2011-06-26 14:26:43
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Looking at stats page on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=25770&ugn=gramps there is also a link to piwik: http://piwik.org/ also plugins (mediawiki, mantis): http://piwik.org/blog/2008/06/new-plugin-mediawiki-piwik-integration/ https://github.com/Lapinkiller/mantispluginPiwik#readme Benny Malengier a écrit : > For me this is ok. > If you could give a status to the devel mailing list every > semester/trimester, that would be great. > We have some idea of the trafick due to the link to sourceforge, but > their statistics is not the best. > There was a peak of 2500 SFlogo requests the day before the outage. In > case you have access to this on sourceforge: > https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=25770&ugn=gramps&mode=week&type=sfweb > <https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=25770&ugn=gramps&mode=week&type=sfweb> > > The trend is upward, but months ago, we also reached 2000 from time to > time. > Anyway, 2500 users doesn't sound like a lot to me, although, that's 100 > in an hour or almost 2 per minute. > The gramps application links directly into help pages on the wiki > though, so the traffic like that is not measured. > > The downloads dropped to 100 yesterday during the outage, from 320 the > day before. I really have no idea where all these people come from, > google analytics probably gives spread over OS, region, ... > > Benny > > 2011/6/26 Jason Simanek <jsi...@gm... <mailto:jsi...@gm...>> > > > On 06/26/2011 03:30 AM, Benny Malengier wrote: > > I suppose we must assume the most logical cause: we actually get > a lot > > of traffic. > > Who knew, users are reading the help pages after all? Do you have an > > idea of the unique addresses that visit on a day? > > Speaking of traffic, I've gone ahead and setup Google Analytics for > gramps-project.org <http://gramps-project.org>. I've added the > necessary tracking code to the > WordPress site. > > The service is FREE but it is also proprietary. You guys tell me if you > don't like this idea, but it sounds like it would be good if we were a > bit more aware of how many people are visiting our site. I made the > mistake of suggesting a proprietary service to the Gimp mailing list and > the torches came out, so please, if there IS some philosophical problem > with using this service, just say so. I'm not a warlock trying to > conjure spells or anything. ;) > > If you guys like the idea I'll talk to Nick W. about adding the > necessary javascript to the Wiki pages. If you don't like it I'll simply > delete the account and remove the code from the WordPress site. > > If you would like to have access to the Analytics info, I think it's > just a matter of me submitting your email address as an "admin", so just > let me know. > > Jason Simanek > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously > valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, > security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > <mailto:Gra...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel |
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From: Jason S. <jsi...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 14:36:55
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On 06/26/2011 09:26 AM, Jérôme wrote: > also plugins (mediawiki, mantis): > http://piwik.org/blog/2008/06/new-plugin-mediawiki-piwik-integration/ > https://github.com/Lapinkiller/mantispluginPiwik#readme These look great. Is there a big backend-demand on this? Considering how active our Wiki is already keeping our hosting service.... that would be another benefit of Google Analytics. |
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From: Jérôme <rom...@ya...> - 2011-06-26 14:08:23
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About wiki, it seems there is some tools. ex: http://ganglia.sourceforge.net/ on http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/ About Google Analytics, I do not know what they cannot do today! ie. I suppose users under chrome already give some data I just see one limitation ... It is free/gratis, if pages per month < 5 000 000 ! Yes, that's very limit for gramps-project.org ;) And the AdWords use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdWords which is maybe already used on some related services ? gmail, etc ... I just wonder what could be possible associations (keys for google) with gramps' content on current wordpress ? I guess we already used some 'gratis' modules on wordpress before ? So, I do not have some philosophical problems with Google Analytics, but it is just me. Jason Simanek a écrit : > On 06/26/2011 03:30 AM, Benny Malengier wrote: >> I suppose we must assume the most logical cause: we actually get a lot >> of traffic. >> Who knew, users are reading the help pages after all? Do you have an >> idea of the unique addresses that visit on a day? > > Speaking of traffic, I've gone ahead and setup Google Analytics for > gramps-project.org. I've added the necessary tracking code to the > WordPress site. > > The service is FREE but it is also proprietary. You guys tell me if you > don't like this idea, but it sounds like it would be good if we were a > bit more aware of how many people are visiting our site. I made the > mistake of suggesting a proprietary service to the Gimp mailing list and > the torches came out, so please, if there IS some philosophical problem > with using this service, just say so. I'm not a warlock trying to > conjure spells or anything. ;) > > If you guys like the idea I'll talk to Nick W. about adding the > necessary javascript to the Wiki pages. If you don't like it I'll simply > delete the account and remove the code from the WordPress site. > > If you would like to have access to the Analytics info, I think it's > just a matter of me submitting your email address as an "admin", so just > let me know. > > Jason Simanek > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
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From: Jérôme <rom...@ya...> - 2011-06-26 15:00:50
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>> I just wonder what could be possible associations (keys for google) with >> gramps' content on current wordpress ? > > Not sure I understand the question. Are you asking about keywords that > people use to search and find Gramps? GAnalytics will also tell us the > origin of our visitors, whether it be direct or from other sites: > Google, Facebook, Twitter, some other site that links to us. Who is owner of the stats ? Here is maybe the 'philosophical' difference. There is some "more free" programs/scripts: http://awstats.sourceforge.net/ http://piwik.org/ http://www.bbclone.de/ http://www.spongestats.org/ http://www.labsmedia.fr/clickheat/ ... My question was rather about the keywords association and analyses for theirs own (google) products. ie. are some data very confidential ? does tags on blog and user id will generate some advanced advertisement ? if yes, what kind of specific advertisement will be generated by Google. Yes, only the use of stats! I often use 'gratis' mail accounts on the web and souceforge already displays some genealogical products near gramps page (sourceforge)... We are all aware of that. The question could be: 'Google seems to already know what the user is doing, what could they learn more that they do not already know' ? You know how GAnalytics runs. That's fine for me, I can skip 'philosophical' difference for that and the stats storage could be cosmetic. :) Jason Simanek a écrit : > On 06/26/2011 09:08 AM, Jérôme wrote: >> I just see one limitation ... >> It is free/gratis, if pages per month < 5 000 000 ! >> Yes, that's very limit for gramps-project.org ;) > > Indeed, we'll have to keep our eye on the total impressions! > >> I just wonder what could be possible associations (keys for google) with >> gramps' content on current wordpress ? > > Not sure I understand the question. Are you asking about keywords that > people use to search and find Gramps? GAnalytics will also tell us the > origin of our visitors, whether it be direct or from other sites: > Google, Facebook, Twitter, some other site that links to us. > >> I guess we already used some 'gratis' modules on wordpress before ? >> So, I do not have some philosophical problems with Google Analytics, but >> it is just me. > > I think the multi-language plugin was closest in business model. > > To me, there's nothing wrong with paying for software or service. I am > more in the Linus Torvalds camp than the Richard Stallman camp. If > people want to help eachother, pool their efforts and share the result, > that's great, but that doesn't make creating something for profit evil. > Especially if its reasonably priced. > > Speaking of which, I need to check the price on that muliple language > pluin we WERE using before it "went commercial" ... not a lot of other > solutions that are as easy to implement and manage out there. It really > was slick and might be worth a few bucks.... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel |
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From: Jeremy B. <je...@bi...> - 2011-06-26 16:59:11
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On 26 June 2011 11:00, Jérôme <rom...@ya...> wrote: > There is some "more free" programs/scripts: > http://awstats.sourceforge.net/ > http://piwik.org/ > http://www.bbclone.de/ > http://www.spongestats.org/ > http://www.labsmedia.fr/clickheat/ I recommend you try Piwik for stats as it's open source, looks nice, and you get to keep all the data unlike some other services. It uses a similar JavaScript tracking method to Google Analytics except that it is hosted locally instead of by a third party. Jeremy Bicha |
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From: jerome <rom...@ya...> - 2011-06-26 17:08:11
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> It uses a similar JavaScript tracking method to Google Analytics > except that it is hosted locally instead of by a third party. Does it increase charge on server ? That's also a possible problem ... --- En date de : Dim 26.6.11, Jeremy Bicha <je...@bi...> a écrit : > De: Jeremy Bicha <je...@bi...> > Objet: Re: [Gramps-devel] ADMIN: Wiki operational again... > À: "gramps-devel" <gra...@li...> > Date: Dimanche 26 juin 2011, 18h28 > On 26 June 2011 11:00, Jérôme > <rom...@ya...> > wrote: > > There is some "more free" programs/scripts: > > http://awstats.sourceforge.net/ > > http://piwik.org/ > > http://www.bbclone.de/ > > http://www.spongestats.org/ > > http://www.labsmedia.fr/clickheat/ > > I recommend you try Piwik for stats as it's open source, > looks nice, > and you get to keep all the data unlike some other > services. It uses a > similar JavaScript tracking method to Google Analytics > except that it > is hosted locally instead of by a third party. > > Jeremy Bicha > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application > performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this > data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
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From: Jason S. <jsi...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 15:21:35
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On 06/26/2011 10:00 AM, Jérôme wrote: > Who is owner of the stats ? > Here is maybe the 'philosophical' difference. Yeah, you're right about that. Google's incentive to offer free analytics services to site owners is to A Add to people's positive impression of Google B Collect even more "anonymous" data to feed their search algorithm It's a tough call. Pragmatically I just want an awareness of my site's actual traffic and not pay an arm and a leg for the service and not hamper the performance of my website in the process. The good thing is that we can always turn it off. > My question was rather about the keywords association and analyses for > theirs own (google) products. ie. are some data very confidential ? does > tags on blog and user id will generate some advanced advertisement ? if > yes, what kind of specific advertisement will be generated by Google. Well, if we were advertising on gramps-project.org, analytics would probably help Google target ads appropriate to our traffic. Which would only help us get better advertising. But since we aren't advertising, the data they collect should be anonymous. The thing I'm more paranoid about than anything is leaving my Gmail account logged in to my primary browser at all times. Then I am most certain that Google is tracking YOUR activity and using it to target ads to YOU when you are using Gmail or one of their other services. For that reason I only use Gmail for handing out to companies and for following open source mailing lists (cuz their conversation nesting is THE BEST of any mail service). But most of the time I'm using Thunderbird. That stuff reminds me of the retina scanners and person-specific ads in Minority Report. I don't want anything to do with that. :D > You know how GAnalytics runs. > That's fine for me, I can skip 'philosophical' difference for that and > the stats storage could be cosmetic. :) Well, I don't know everything, but when in doubt follow the trail of money. Google isn't wasting energy on anything that won't benefit their bottom line. I think, if anything, using Google Analytics benefits Google's search result algorithm. That's an acceptable trade-off to me. I am always trying to stay sober about these things though. It's not like I trust Google. I just think that I know what their motivations are. At least for now. |
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From: Benny M. <ben...@gm...> - 2011-06-26 15:49:00
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2011/6/26 Jason Simanek <jsi...@gm...> > > > On 06/26/2011 10:00 AM, Jérôme wrote: > > Who is owner of the stats ? > > Here is maybe the 'philosophical' difference. > > Yeah, you're right about that. Google's incentive to offer free > analytics services to site owners is to > > A Add to people's positive impression of Google > B Collect even more "anonymous" data to feed their search algorithm > > It's a tough call. Pragmatically I just want an awareness of my site's > actual traffic and not pay an arm and a leg for the service and not > hamper the performance of my website in the process. > > The good thing is that we can always turn it off. > > > My question was rather about the keywords association and analyses for > > theirs own (google) products. ie. are some data very confidential ? does > > tags on blog and user id will generate some advanced advertisement ? if > > yes, what kind of specific advertisement will be generated by Google. > > Well, if we were advertising on gramps-project.org, analytics would > probably help Google target ads appropriate to our traffic. Which would > only help us get better advertising. But since we aren't advertising, > the data they collect should be anonymous. > > The thing I'm more paranoid about than anything is leaving my Gmail > account logged in to my primary browser at all times. Then I am most > certain that Google is tracking YOUR activity and using it to target ads > to YOU when you are using Gmail or one of their other services. For that > reason I only use Gmail for handing out to companies and for following > open source mailing lists (cuz their conversation nesting is THE BEST of > any mail service). But most of the time I'm using Thunderbird. > > That stuff reminds me of the retina scanners and person-specific ads in > Minority Report. I don't want anything to do with that. :D > > > You know how GAnalytics runs. > > That's fine for me, I can skip 'philosophical' difference for that and > > the stats storage could be cosmetic. :) > > Well, I don't know everything, but when in doubt follow the trail of > money. Google isn't wasting energy on anything that won't benefit their > bottom line. I think, if anything, using Google Analytics benefits > Google's search result algorithm. That's an acceptable trade-off to me. > > I am always trying to stay sober about these things though. It's not > like I trust Google. I just think that I know what their motivations > are. At least for now. > Well, this is not my line of work, so I leave the details for you. I suggest you talk over any web related stuff with Nick W, general questions on the devel list. Perhaps Stephane or Brian or Doug have webhosting experience too, otherwise I think noone has experience (if somebody else on devel list has, then speak up). It's best to work in teams in OSS projects. I'm glad to handle programming stuff and not worry about the hosting/services aspects of the job. Benny > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 > _______________________________________________ > Gramps-devel mailing list > Gra...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gramps-devel > |
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