From: Ralph De W. <ral...@ch...> - 2005-07-21 23:50:45
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Hi all: I just moved to Kunbuntu Hoary version 5.04 and updated it. I had a very ki= nd=20 gentleman make me a deb for Gramps 2.0.5 and he is willing to have it share= d=20 with the project if you attribute his site 'if he puts attribution, my site= =20 is http://sethkinast.com :P." But my problem is that Kubuntu does not seem to come with the Berkely Datab= ase=20 installed. And after a IRC discussion I still can not figure what filles I= =20 need to install to get the Berkely Database stuff installed. Can some one=20 help me. Thanks in advance. =2D-=20 Yours, Ralph. I have installed Kubuntu Linux version 5.04 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt Jabber & Skype ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint =3D DE4D 6225 A558 A2B9 8DEC 7E94 BB6F 435C 0DE2 085D 03E7 Kernel version 2.6.10-5-386 Current Linux uptime: 1 days 16 hours 24 minutes. |
From: Alex R. <sh...@gr...> - 2005-07-22 02:28:44
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Ralph, On 07/21/2005 06:50:40 PM, Ralph De Witt wrote: > I just moved to Kunbuntu Hoary version 5.04 and updated it. I had a very = kind=20 > gentleman make me a deb for Gramps 2.0.5 and he is willing to have it sha= red=20 > with the project if you attribute his site 'if he puts attribution, my si= te=20 > is http://sethkinast.com :P." First off, does the Debian package not work for you? If so, what precisely is a problem with it? It should have correct dependencies, so installing that package via normal methods should just work. Here's it: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gramps/gramps_2.0.5-1_all.de= b > But my problem is that Kubuntu does not seem to come with the Berkely Dat= abase=20 > installed. And after a IRC discussion I still can not figure what filles = I=20 > need to install to get the Berkely Database stuff installed. Can some one= =20 > help me. Thanks in advance. I must have missed the IRC discussion, so forgive me for asking again: how does it not work? The default python is shipped with the bsddb module. This should in turn depend on the appropriate libs for Berkeley DB. Which part is missing? Can you get it from Debian? Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org |
From: Ralph De W. <ral...@ch...> - 2005-07-22 03:31:24
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On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:28 pm, Alex Roitman wrote: > Ralph, > > On 07/21/2005 06:50:40 PM, Ralph De Witt wrote: > > I just moved to Kunbuntu Hoary version 5.04 and updated it. I had a very > > kind gentleman make me a deb for Gramps 2.0.5 and he is willing to have > > it shared with the project if you attribute his site 'if he puts > > attribution, my site is http://sethkinast.com :P." > > First off, does the Debian package not work for you? If so, what precisely > is a problem with it? It should have correct dependencies, so installing > that package via normal methods should just work. Here's it: > =20 > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gramps/gramps_2.0.5-1_all.deb > Did not try the Debian deb see below. My original problem was the Ubuntu on= ly=20 had a version 1.0.8 in their repositories. I am not sure I am the right person to answer this question, as I understan= d=20 it Kubunbtu is a KDE version of Unbuntu. It does not install Python by=20 default. Unbuntu is derived from Debian, has it's own tweeks, has it's own= =20 repositories, and from what I understand most Debian deb's do not run on i= t=20 due to package name changes. > > But my problem is that Kubuntu does not seem to come with the Berkely > > Database installed. And after a IRC discussion I still can not figure > > what filles I need to install to get the Berkely Database stuff > > installed. Can some one help me. Thanks in advance. > > I must have missed the IRC discussion, so forgive me for asking again: > how does it not work? The default python is shipped with the bsddb > module. This should in turn depend on the appropriate libs for Berkeley D= B. > Which part is missing? Can you get it from Debian? > I have the following lib's installed: package version libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7 libdb3 3.29-22 libdb4.2 4.2.52-17unbuntu1 libdb4.2++ 4.2.52-17unbuntu1 libdb4.3 4.3.21-11 I believe I have all the python dependencies meet. There is a ton of python= =20 stuff installed. What triggered this email is the fact that I opened my=20 gramps Data base and closed it with Gramps 2.0.5 and I do not see any .db o= r=20 gmdb files. In my Geneology folder. So I thought something must be missing.= I=20 may be wrong but isn't 2.0.5 supposed to automatic create the database file= s=20 after opening the old xml file structure? On another note the Unbuntu folks are looking for Debian developers to make= =20 Unbuntu packages and help move fixes/patches back into Debian. > Alex =2D-=20 Yours, Ralph. I have installed Kubuntu Linux version 5.04 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt Jabber & Skype ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint =3D DE4D 6225 A558 A2B9 8DEC 7E94 BB6F 435C 0DE2 085D 03E7 Kernel version 2.6.10-5-386 Current Linux uptime: 1 days 19 hours 28 minutes. |
From: Doug M-C <li...@ds...> - 2005-07-22 03:57:40
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The standard Debian package for gramps works perfectly fine in Ubuntu (4.10 and 5.04). I would suggest you just use it. Alex or Don will give you the definitive answer, but my understanding is that if you open an xml file (an old data.gramps file) then it will save any changes in that format. It will not create a new Berkley Database file unless you do a save as into that format. On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:31:18 -0700 Ralph De Witt <ral...@ch...> wrote: > On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:28 pm, Alex Roitman wrote: > > Ralph, <snipped> > > First off, does the Debian package not work for you? If so, > > what precisely is a problem with it? It should have correct > > dependencies, so installing that package via normal methods > > should just work. Here's it: > > > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gramps/gramps_2.0.5-1_all.deb > > > Did not try the Debian deb see below. My original problem was > the Ubuntu only had a version 1.0.8 in their repositories. <snipped> > I believe I have all the python dependencies meet. There is a > ton of python stuff installed. What triggered this email is the > fact that I opened my gramps Data base and closed it with Gramps > 2.0.5 and I do not see any .db or gmdb files. In my Geneology > folder. So I thought something must be missing. I may be wrong > but isn't 2.0.5 supposed to automatic create the database files > after opening the old xml file structure? > > On another note the Unbuntu folks are looking for Debian > developers to make Unbuntu packages and help move fixes/patches > back into Debian. > > Alex -- Doug M-C ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Email: <lists AT dshop DOT morrison-cleary DOT info> Key ID: D5CC3E8F Check the header for all relevant policies. |
From: Ralph De W. <ral...@ch...> - 2005-07-22 04:16:30
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On Thursday 21 July 2005 08:57 pm, Doug M-C wrote: > The standard Debian package for gramps works perfectly fine in > Ubuntu (4.10 and 5.04). I would suggest you just use it. > > Alex or Don will give you the definitive answer, but my > understanding is that if you open an xml file (an old data.gramps > file) then it will save any changes in that format. It will not > create a new Berkley Database file unless you do a save as into > that format. > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:31:18 -0700 > > Ralph De Witt <ral...@ch...> wrote: > > On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:28 pm, Alex Roitman wrote: > > > Ralph, > > <snipped> > > > > First off, does the Debian package not work for you? If so, > > > what precisely is a problem with it? It should have correct > > > dependencies, so installing that package via normal methods > > > should just work. Here's it: > > > > > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gramps/gramps_2.0.5-1_all= =2Ed > > >eb > > > > Did not try the Debian deb see below. My original problem was > > the Ubuntu only had a version 1.0.8 in their repositories. > > <snipped> > > > I believe I have all the python dependencies meet. There is a > > ton of python stuff installed. What triggered this email is the > > fact that I opened my gramps Data base and closed it with Gramps > > 2.0.5 and I do not see any .db or gmdb files. In my Geneology > > folder. So I thought something must be missing. I may be wrong > > but isn't 2.0.5 supposed to automatic create the database files > > after opening the old xml file structure? > > > > On another note the Unbuntu folks are looking for Debian > > developers to make Unbuntu packages and help move fixes/patches > > back into Debian. > > > > > Alex > > -- > Doug M-C Doug: Thanks for your reply. A little more light has entered my dark tunnel. =2D-=20 Yours, Ralph. I have installed Kubuntu Linux version 5.04 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt Jabber & Skype ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint =3D DE4D 6225 A558 A2B9 8DEC 7E94 BB6F 435C 0DE2 085D 03E7 Kernel version 2.6.10-5-386 Current Linux uptime: 1 days 20 hours 50 minutes. |
From: Alex R. <sh...@gr...> - 2005-07-22 13:47:21
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On 07/21/2005 10:57:30 PM, Doug M-C wrote: > The standard Debian package for gramps works perfectly fine in > Ubuntu (4.10 and 5.04). I would suggest you just use it. Me too :-) Then, when (if) there are problems, just tell us what they are. We should be able to help then. > Alex or Don will give you the definitive answer, but my > understanding is that if you open an xml file (an old data.gramps > file) then it will save any changes in that format. It will not > create a new Berkley Database file unless you do a save as into > that format. Correct -- gramps 2.0.x can open gedcom and gramps XML files directly. In that case, on exit, the changes will be saved to the same format. This is convenient if you want to quickly look at some data, or if the datafile is small. For large data files (over few thousand people) this will be very slow, so using GRDB is the only sane approach. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org |
From: Don A. <don...@co...> - 2005-07-22 12:00:04
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Ralph, Try: $ sudo apt-get install python-bsddb3 I find it odd that Kubunutu doesn't include python, since python is very heavily used by the system in Ubunutu. Don On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 20:31 -0700, Ralph De Witt wrote: > On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:28 pm, Alex Roitman wrote: > > Ralph, > > > > On 07/21/2005 06:50:40 PM, Ralph De Witt wrote: > > > I just moved to Kunbuntu Hoary version 5.04 and updated it. I had a very > > > kind gentleman make me a deb for Gramps 2.0.5 and he is willing to have > > > it shared with the project if you attribute his site 'if he puts > > > attribution, my site is http://sethkinast.com :P." > > > > First off, does the Debian package not work for you? If so, what precisely > > is a problem with it? It should have correct dependencies, so installing > > that package via normal methods should just work. Here's it: > > > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gramps/gramps_2.0.5-1_all.deb > > > Did not try the Debian deb see below. My original problem was the Ubuntu only > had a version 1.0.8 in their repositories. > > I am not sure I am the right person to answer this question, as I understand > it Kubunbtu is a KDE version of Unbuntu. It does not install Python by > default. Unbuntu is derived from Debian, has it's own tweeks, has it's own > repositories, and from what I understand most Debian deb's do not run on it > due to package name changes. > > > > But my problem is that Kubuntu does not seem to come with the Berkely > > > Database installed. And after a IRC discussion I still can not figure > > > what filles I need to install to get the Berkely Database stuff > > > installed. Can some one help me. Thanks in advance. > > > > I must have missed the IRC discussion, so forgive me for asking again: > > how does it not work? The default python is shipped with the bsddb > > module. This should in turn depend on the appropriate libs for Berkeley DB. > > Which part is missing? Can you get it from Debian? > > > I have the following lib's installed: > package version > libdb1-compat 2.1.3-7 > libdb3 3.29-22 > libdb4.2 4.2.52-17unbuntu1 > libdb4.2++ 4.2.52-17unbuntu1 > libdb4.3 4.3.21-11 > > I believe I have all the python dependencies meet. There is a ton of python > stuff installed. What triggered this email is the fact that I opened my > gramps Data base and closed it with Gramps 2.0.5 and I do not see any .db or > gmdb files. In my Geneology folder. So I thought something must be missing. I > may be wrong but isn't 2.0.5 supposed to automatic create the database files > after opening the old xml file structure? > > On another note the Unbuntu folks are looking for Debian developers to make > Unbuntu packages and help move fixes/patches back into Debian. > > Alex > -- Don Allingham <don...@co...> |
From: Alex R. <sh...@gr...> - 2005-07-22 13:51:43
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Ralph, On 07/21/2005 10:31:18 PM, Ralph De Witt wrote: >=20 > I am not sure I am the right person to answer this question, as I underst= and=20 > it Kubunbtu is a KDE version of Unbuntu. It does not install Python by=20 > default. Unbuntu is derived from Debian, has it's own tweeks, has it's ow= n=20 > repositories, and from what I understand most Debian deb's do not run on= it=20 > due to package name changes. Most acually do :-) But the good idea would be to try uninstalling that deb somebody made for you and installing the one from Debian. If it installs, it should Just Work (tm). If it has problems during install, we will know what they are. > I believe I have all the python dependencies meet. There is a ton of pyth= on=20 > stuff installed. What triggered this email is the fact that I opened my=20 > gramps Data base and closed it with Gramps 2.0.5 and I do not see any .db= or=20 > gmdb files. In my Geneology folder. So I thought something must be missin= g. I=20 > may be wrong but isn't 2.0.5 supposed to automatic create the database fi= les=20 > after opening the old xml file structure? This is OK. Once you have a working gramps (or maybe yours is already working?) then: 1. Create new GRDB database 2. Import your XML data into it. This will leave your XML data untouched, but will transfer the data into the new format. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://www.gramps-project.org |