From: <tim...@en...> - 2006-07-10 19:34:27
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Juergen Wieferink wrote: > On Monday 10 July 2006 22:53 Timoth=C3=A9e Lecomte wrote: > =20 >> Juergen Wieferink wrote: >> =20 >>> Just curious: Will there be a smoother integration of the mousing >>> features into the GUI? >>> =20 >> Well, if you have a precise idea, I'm all ears. For 4.2 it will >> definitely stay like that, i.e. the same mouse behaviour as other >> terminals plus the few icons in the toolbar. But if we can make it >> better, we should try ! >> =20 > > Hmm.... The problem I have is that I cannot remember all the keys. > If the message, which is displayed with 'h' would also show up > directly in the help dialog, I would already be helped.=20 Agreed. It needs too much work for 4.2, because this help message is=20 entangled with the 'bind' system, but it seems worthwile. > I feel quite uncomfortable with the output to the terminal while mousin= g > because I generally keep terminal windows at 80x25. I don't understand what you mean here. > And I'd like the 'verbose' message to show up also in the status bar... > =20 Again, it needs too much work for 4.2, but makes sense. I will write that in my to-do list ! Best regards, Timoth=C3=A9e |
From: <tim...@en...> - 2006-07-10 18:53:40
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Juergen Wieferink wrote: > On Sunday 09 July 2006 22:11 Timoth=C3=A9e Lecomte wrote: > =20 >> Juergen Wieferink wrote: >> =20 >>> Terminal type set to 'wxt' >>> gnuplot> plot sin(x) >>> Error reading Pango modules file >>> >>> (<unknown>:17660): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded >>> modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably mean= s >>> there was an error in the creation of: >>> '/usr/local/etc/pango/pango.modules' >>> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. >>> =20 > > =20 >> Have you tried to run 'pango-querymodules' ? It may tell you why it di= d >> not find the so-called modules. >> Attached is my file to let you know what you are expecting. >> =20 > > Well, I tried somehow... I typed "pango-q" and hit tab twice and > was getting nothing because it was not yet in the hash, probably. I > thought that this was because missing priveleges and got root. And > also root did not know pango-querymodules. Because /usr/local/bin > is not in the path of root. Maybe this is the reason > /usr/local/etc/pango/pango.modules was empty. > > Finally, I piped the output of pango-querymodules into > /usr/local/etc/pango/pango.modules and there you are, it works! > Really cool look and feel, congrats!!! And thanks for your efforts > to get it to work on machines like mine. ;-) > =20 You're welcome. I am glad you've succeeded, and your reports really made=20 me fix problems that may have annoyed others. And the howto you wrote is=20 just a good idea (and I am happy it is not longer ;-) ). Thank you ! > Just curious: Will there be a smoother integration of the mousing > features into the GUI? > =20 Well, if you have a precise idea, I'm all ears. For 4.2 it will=20 definitely stay like that, i.e. the same mouse behaviour as other=20 terminals plus the few icons in the toolbar. But if we can make it=20 better, we should try ! Best regards, Timoth=C3=A9e |
From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2006-07-10 19:51:39
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On Monday 10 July 2006 01:53 pm, Timoth=C3=A9e Lecomte wrote: > > Just curious: Will there be a smoother integration of the mousing > > features into the GUI? > > Well, if you have a precise idea, I'm all ears. For 4.2 it will > definitely stay like that, i.e. the same mouse behaviour as other > terminals plus the few icons in the toolbar. But if we can make it > better, we should try ! Wxt still needs a mechanism to disable the trapping of "q" and "space" as special cases, right? I've been holding off on adding an interactive label-placement demo because it fails on wxt. But I'll go ahead and add it in the hope that it makes clear why such a feature is needed. mouselabels.dem (now in cvs) Give it a try under x11, and then see how unusable it is under wxt because of the 'q' and '<space>' trapping. =2D-=20 Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center University of Washington, Seattle WA |
From: <tim...@en...> - 2006-07-10 20:09:28
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Ethan Merritt wrote: > Wxt still needs a mechanism to disable the trapping of "q" and > "space" as special cases, right? I've been holding off on adding > an interactive label-placement demo because it fails on wxt. > But I'll go ahead and add it in the hope that it makes clear why > such a feature is needed. > > mouselabels.dem (now in cvs) > > Give it a try under x11, and then see how unusable it is under wxt > because of the 'q' and '<space>' trapping. > =20 Hmm. You must have missed a part of the changelog a month ago : 2006-06-17 Timothee Lecomte <tim...@en...> (...) (wxtPanel::OnKeyEvent): (wxt_init): (wxtConfigDialog): New variable wxt_ctrl to handle 'q' and <space>. (...) * term/wxt.trm (wxt_options): New terminal option '{no}ctrl'. (TERM_HELP): Updated. I have just tried and it.... is great ! How powerful these demos are ! A little remark : when hitting ESC to quit the demo, the command prompt=20 'gnuplot>' does not come back, I have to hit ctrl-c (both wxt and x11). Best regards, Timoth=C3=A9e |
From: Ethan M. <merritt@u.washington.edu> - 2006-07-10 20:21:46
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On Monday 10 July 2006 03:09 pm, Timoth=C3=A9e Lecomte wrote: > Hmm. You must have missed a part of the changelog a month ago : So sorry. You're right, I completely missed that. Great, so the demo works on both x11 and wxt. And one more item can be crossed off my TODO list for 4.2 > ! A little remark : when hitting ESC to quit the demo, the command > prompt 'gnuplot>' does not come back, I have to hit ctrl-c (both wxt > and x11). Hmm. You're right about the prompt.=20 But I don't have to hit ctrl-c; a simple <cr> is sufficient. This is an old, old problem when mixing terminal input and mouse-channel input. I have never found a general solution, although it may be possible to provide an explicit reset command of some sort that could be called from a script like this one when it is known in advance that the problem will be triggered. =2D-=20 Ethan A Merritt Biomolecular Structure Center University of Washington, Seattle WA |