Re: [GLE-general] Problems with QGLE on windows 10

[Zbigniew K. <ki...@if...>]

Hi All,

I'm also an ASCII old timer over several different operating systems 
and gle implementations.

I now use gle in two ways:
1/ my graphics programs automatically generate gle scripts of what 
they display
2/ diagrams are reedited from some old version (such as that from 
automatic output)

Initially I treated QGLE as just a viewer but then I came to 
appreciate its handy WYSIWYG drawing capabilities, such as placing, 
moving, editing simple objects.  Especially useful for ad-hoc 
annotations in publication diagrams.

I would therefore recommend not relegating QGLE too easily to the 
"software dustbin of history".  Not that we yet have a maintainer to 
take over from Johan Struyf...  I really appreciated Vincents initial 
(if rather buggy) gle4 and then Johan's era as he was actually very 
good at debugging program operation, and even reacting to some feature 
requests.

In summary: gle is an invaluable tool for me and my colleagues.  It 
could certainly do with maintenance as I have some hard bugs that 
cannot be reported to anybody.  Regrettably I am in the Windows world 
most of the time and the graphics I use is for Intel Visual Fortran 
and thus incompatible.

Best,

Zbyszek


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On 13-08-2019 16:30, Laurence Abbott via Glx-general wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 12:30, Radek Machulka <rad...@gm... 
> <mailto:rad...@gm...>> wrote:
> 
>      > GLE can not die, it tried before with 3.3h, then we got a
>     restart with
>      > version 3.5.  And after that it tried to die again, and we got
>     another
>      > restart with version 4.  And it became better every time.
> 
> 
> Here here!
> 
> I've been using it (along with research group members) for more than 
> the past 25 years (version 3.3, maybe?).
> 
> Typically, I use it under linux (editing in something basic like 
> nedit, and viewing the (pdf) output in a pdf viewer. I've never really 
> felt the need for a dedicated viewer, myself, but then I work from the 
> command line most of the time.
> 
> However, my boss use GLE under windows... This used to be using PFE as 
> an editor and ghostview to view the (eps) output. More recently, 
> though, he's been using QGLE and PFE.
> 
> I think a basic front-end is useful: i.e., double-click on a gle file 
> and a preview is shown and it's possible to spawn an editor to edit 
> the gle file (like QGLE now). However, I've never ever used the 
> pointy-clicky editing capabilities of QGLE.
> 
> For me, the main benefit of GLE is that it does what you tell it to, 
> rather than what microshaft (or whoever) thinks you want to do. I.e., 
> draw a line from (2.3,4.5) to (6.4,8.9) all in cm. It can take a 
> little bit of getting used to that sort of mindset but it's highly 
> powerful. I've always thought that the pointy-clicky drawing of lines 
> detracts from the ethos of GLE (sorry!).
> 
> Hence, if the old QGLE is likely to become defunct (as QT4 support is 
> removed) then maybe a very simple "viewing and export only" front-end 
> would not be a bad thing (with other bells and whistles being added 
> later on).
> 
> Presumably, all it needs to do is open a main window, run GLE to 
> generate a PNG and display it, and then monitor the gle file for 
> changes and update the image as needed. (Obviously I'm simplifying 
> this somewhat.) I might give it some thought. Or maybe porting from 
> QT4 to QT5 isn't that bad? (I've not looked and I've never built 
> anything with QT at all, so that could be a completely false statement!).
> 
>     I am glad to hear that GLE has a tendency to survive.
>     I was just bit nervous about the git 'activity'...
> 
> 
> Ditto!
> 
> I've fixed a few bugs in it in the past and hope to keep on using it 
> for years to come. Nothing is as flexible! The majority of GLE is 
> basic C and C++ with few dependencies and so shouldn't be a problem 
> for compilation. It's more the front-end parts that are likely to 
> cause compilation issues.
> 
> Cheers,
> Laurence
> -- 
> Dr Laurence Abbott <lau...@yo... 
> <mailto:lau...@yo...>>
> Department of Chemistry,
> University of York,
> YO10 5DD, UK
> 
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