gimp-print-devel

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 06:59:05 -0500, Matt Broughton wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Solomon Peachy <pi...@sh...> wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 09:02:08PM -0500, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>> Right now all I can say is "confirmed".  I set my WorkForce-1100 to 
>>> use the Stylus Photo 1410 driver.  Word crashed on displaying the 
>>> print window.  Photoshop Elements only showed the bare minimum print 
>>> window as shown in the original post.  In addition, all other apps 
>>> only showed "Printer Features" with no way to get to the other 
>>> settings.  I too am running mac os 10.14.6.  I will not be available 
>>> this coming week or have access to my computer for further evaluation.  
>>> Obviously, something is wrong.
>> 
>> As an additional wrinkle, I have one user who just reported that 5.3.3 
>> works properly with a Mitsubishi CP-D90DW dyesub printer. (Unknown MacOS 
>> release though)
>
> Version 5.3.3 works fine on my Epson WorkForce 1100 also.  I would have reported any problem I had as soon as 5.3.3 was released.  This also serves as a reminder to figure a way to test the reported issue if possible rather than say "no problems have been reported and works for me"

It's important to get full details of the user's environment -- "works
for me" simply means that it works in my setup, which may have very
different characteristics from someone else's.
-- 
Robert Krawitz                                     <rl...@al...>

***  MIT Engineers   A Proud Tradition   http://mitathletics.com  ***
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--Eric Crampton

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

I have limited availability until the 22nd but will start on it then.  

Steve Letter

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:14 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 21:02:08 -0500, Matt Broughton wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:53:11 -0400, Evgenii Babiichuk wrote:
>>>> Hello, dear developers of Gutenprint,
>>>> 
>>>> My name is Eugene. First of all, I would like to express all my respect and appreciation for such enormously huge and super useful software. You really helped to many people run their printing on a high level.  Bravo!   
>>>> I do sublimation by using Epson 1400 (1410). Although, this printer is pretty old but does the job great and I really happy with the price point as small business. Currently, I have 4 same printers printing with the same sublimation ink and paper. Recently, I've noticed that they provide slightly different printing results.  I decided to adjust it by using the Color Manager. However, it is pretty limited and I then found Gutenprint.  I was surprised by the options.  Unfortchantly, I couldn't use the latest 5.3.3 version for my Mac OS 10.14.6.  I print from photoshop and when it comes to select the Printer Features it doesn't show me the setting. I attached the screenshot just in case.  I also tried to print from Word with Gutenprint but it shows an error.  I tried version Gutenprint 5.2.15 and it works. However, I think it might miss new features which been added to 5.3.3.  I when through all forum support topics and didn't find any solution.  I know you might just tell me to cre
> at
>>> e a topic and await your response. But I decided to test my luck and contact you directly.  
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'll wait for the Macintosh experts to weigh in on the Macintosh
>>> problems, but as for the Epson 1400, there is no difference between
>>> Gutenprint 5.2.15 and 5.3.3, so feel free to continue using 5.2.15
>>> while we resolve the issue with 5.3.
>> 
>> Right now all I can say is "confirmed".  I set my WorkForce-1100 to use the Stylus Photo 1410 driver.  Word crashed on displaying the print window.  Photoshop Elements only showed the bare minimum print window as shown in the original post.  In addition, all other apps only showed "Printer Features" with no way to get to the other settings.  I too am running mac os 10.14.6.  I will not be available this coming week or have access to my computer for further evaluation.  Obviously, something is wrong.
> 
> I've opened https://sourceforge.net/p/gimp-print/bugs/722/ on this.
> It's at priority 7 rather than 9 because there's a workaround for most
> people, continue to use 5.2.15.
> 
> -- 
> Robert Krawitz                                     <rl...@al...>
> 
> ***  MIT Engineers   A Proud Tradition   http://mitathletics.com  ***
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom  --  http://ProgFree.org
> Project lead for Gutenprint   --    http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> 
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:21 AM, Solomon Peachy <pi...@sh...> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 09:02:08PM -0500, Matt Broughton wrote:
>> Right now all I can say is "confirmed".  I set my WorkForce-1100 to 
>> use the Stylus Photo 1410 driver.  Word crashed on displaying the 
>> print window.  Photoshop Elements only showed the bare minimum print 
>> window as shown in the original post.  In addition, all other apps 
>> only showed "Printer Features" with no way to get to the other 
>> settings.  I too am running mac os 10.14.6.  I will not be available 
>> this coming week or have access to my computer for further evaluation.  
>> Obviously, something is wrong.
> 
> As an additional wrinkle, I have one user who just reported that 5.3.3 
> works properly with a Mitsubishi CP-D90DW dyesub printer. (Unknown MacOS 
> release though)
> 
> 
> 
> - Solomon

Version 5.3.3 works fine on my Epson WorkForce 1100 also.  I would have reported any problem I had as soon as 5.3.3 was released.  This also serves as a reminder to figure a way to test the reported issue if possible rather than say "no problems have been reported and works for me"

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Solomon P. <pi...@sh...>]

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 09:02:08PM -0500, Matt Broughton wrote:
> Right now all I can say is "confirmed".  I set my WorkForce-1100 to 
> use the Stylus Photo 1410 driver.  Word crashed on displaying the 
> print window.  Photoshop Elements only showed the bare minimum print 
> window as shown in the original post.  In addition, all other apps 
> only showed "Printer Features" with no way to get to the other 
> settings.  I too am running mac os 10.14.6.  I will not be available 
> this coming week or have access to my computer for further evaluation.  
> Obviously, something is wrong.

As an additional wrinkle, I have one user who just reported that 5.3.3 
works properly with a Mitsubishi CP-D90DW dyesub printer. (Unknown MacOS 
release though)



 - Solomon
-- 
Solomon Peachy			       pizza at shaftnet dot org
High Springs, FL                          ^^ (email/xmpp) ^^
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 21:02:08 -0500, Matt Broughton wrote:
>
>
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:53:11 -0400, Evgenii Babiichuk wrote:
>>> Hello, dear developers of Gutenprint,
>>> 
>>> My name is Eugene. First of all, I would like to express all my respect and appreciation for such enormously huge and super useful software. You really helped to many people run their printing on a high level.  Bravo!   
>>> I do sublimation by using Epson 1400 (1410). Although, this printer is pretty old but does the job great and I really happy with the price point as small business. Currently, I have 4 same printers printing with the same sublimation ink and paper. Recently, I've noticed that they provide slightly different printing results.  I decided to adjust it by using the Color Manager. However, it is pretty limited and I then found Gutenprint.  I was surprised by the options.  Unfortchantly, I couldn't use the latest 5.3.3 version for my Mac OS 10.14.6.  I print from photoshop and when it comes to select the Printer Features it doesn't show me the setting. I attached the screenshot just in case.  I also tried to print from Word with Gutenprint but it shows an error.  I tried version Gutenprint 5.2.15 and it works. However, I think it might miss new features which been added to 5.3.3.  I when through all forum support topics and didn't find any solution.  I know you might just tell me to cre
 at
>> e a topic and await your response. But I decided to test my luck and contact you directly.  
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'll wait for the Macintosh experts to weigh in on the Macintosh
>> problems, but as for the Epson 1400, there is no difference between
>> Gutenprint 5.2.15 and 5.3.3, so feel free to continue using 5.2.15
>> while we resolve the issue with 5.3.
>
> Right now all I can say is "confirmed".  I set my WorkForce-1100 to use the Stylus Photo 1410 driver.  Word crashed on displaying the print window.  Photoshop Elements only showed the bare minimum print window as shown in the original post.  In addition, all other apps only showed "Printer Features" with no way to get to the other settings.  I too am running mac os 10.14.6.  I will not be available this coming week or have access to my computer for further evaluation.  Obviously, something is wrong.

I've opened https://sourceforge.net/p/gimp-print/bugs/722/ on this.
It's at priority 7 rather than 9 because there's a workaround for most
people, continue to use 5.2.15.

-- 
Robert Krawitz                                     <rl...@al...>

***  MIT Engineers   A Proud Tradition   http://mitathletics.com  ***
Member of the League for Programming Freedom  --  http://ProgFree.org
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"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:53:11 -0400, Evgenii Babiichuk wrote:
>> Hello, dear developers of Gutenprint,
>> 
>> My name is Eugene. First of all, I would like to express all my respect and appreciation for such enormously huge and super useful software. You really helped to many people run their printing on a high level.  Bravo!   
>> I do sublimation by using Epson 1400 (1410). Although, this printer is pretty old but does the job great and I really happy with the price point as small business. Currently, I have 4 same printers printing with the same sublimation ink and paper. Recently, I've noticed that they provide slightly different printing results.  I decided to adjust it by using the Color Manager. However, it is pretty limited and I then found Gutenprint.  I was surprised by the options.  Unfortchantly, I couldn't use the latest 5.3.3 version for my Mac OS 10.14.6.  I print from photoshop and when it comes to select the Printer Features it doesn't show me the setting. I attached the screenshot just in case.  I also tried to print from Word with Gutenprint but it shows an error.  I tried version Gutenprint 5.2.15 and it works. However, I think it might miss new features which been added to 5.3.3.  I when through all forum support topics and didn't find any solution.  I know you might just tell me to creat
> e a topic and await your response. But I decided to test my luck and contact you directly.  
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'll wait for the Macintosh experts to weigh in on the Macintosh
> problems, but as for the Epson 1400, there is no difference between
> Gutenprint 5.2.15 and 5.3.3, so feel free to continue using 5.2.15
> while we resolve the issue with 5.3.
> -- 
> Robert Krawitz                                     <rl...@al...>


Right now all I can say is "confirmed".  I set my WorkForce-1100 to use the Stylus Photo 1410 driver.  Word crashed on displaying the print window.  Photoshop Elements only showed the bare minimum print window as shown in the original post.  In addition, all other apps only showed "Printer Features" with no way to get to the other settings.  I too am running mac os 10.14.6.  I will not be available this coming week or have access to my computer for further evaluation.  Obviously, something is wrong.
Matt
--
Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:53:11 -0400, Evgenii Babiichuk wrote:
> Hello, dear developers of Gutenprint,
>
> My name is Eugene. First of all, I would like to express all my respect and appreciation for such enormously huge and super useful software. You really helped to many people run their printing on a high level.  Bravo!   
> I do sublimation by using Epson 1400 (1410). Although, this printer is pretty old but does the job great and I really happy with the price point as small business. Currently, I have 4 same printers printing with the same sublimation ink and paper. Recently, I've noticed that they provide slightly different printing results.  I decided to adjust it by using the Color Manager. However, it is pretty limited and I then found Gutenprint.  I was surprised by the options.  Unfortchantly, I couldn't use the latest 5.3.3 version for my Mac OS 10.14.6.  I print from photoshop and when it comes to select the Printer Features it doesn't show me the setting. I attached the screenshot just in case.  I also tried to print from Word with Gutenprint but it shows an error.  I tried version Gutenprint 5.2.15 and it works. However, I think it might miss new features which been added to 5.3.3.  I when through all forum support topics and didn't find any solution.  I know you might just tell me to creat
 e a topic and await your response. But I decided to test my luck and contact you directly.  

Hi,

I'll wait for the Macintosh experts to weigh in on the Macintosh
problems, but as for the Epson 1400, there is no difference between
Gutenprint 5.2.15 and 5.3.3, so feel free to continue using 5.2.15
while we resolve the issue with 5.3.
-- 
Robert Krawitz                                     <rl...@al...>

***  MIT Engineers   A Proud Tradition   http://mitathletics.com  ***
Member of the League for Programming Freedom  --  http://ProgFree.org
Project lead for Gutenprint   --    http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

[Gimp-print-devel] mac OS Catalina 10.15.x installation

[Matt <wal...@ma...>]

Carrying this over from another thread so it doesn't get messy.

>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li...> wrote:
>> 
>> I know Apple is going to require me to submit my builds for inspection before it will install but thought that was still a future requirement. I’ll have to check and see if this is now required. 
>> 
>> Steve Letter
>> Sent from my Commodore PET
> 
> I'd forgotten about that.  It is possible that may be the problem as I have never seen the error message that was quoted.  I haven't installed Catalina, and am not planning to do so for a while as I don't have any test computers.   I know that all apps must now be 64 bit which was certainly a factor in Gutenprint dropping all 32 bit binaries.  

That is indeed the case.  Everything must now carry an approval stamp from Apple saying it is safe to install.  After searching a bit, I found the following:

Seemingly, the most on target and important reference is the following from the Apple Development Conference:
https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/703/

Overview of Catalina, 10.15.x is on the Apple Developer page here:
https://developer.apple.com         and
https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc2019/

I have had no experience with https://mrmacintosh.com but the following looks like it might also be of help

https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-10-15-catalina-updated-index-of-need-to-know-changes-links/


Reviewing the mac OS installer package, there may be a problem with:
1.  The uninstall-guttenprint.command and the Gutenprint Utility for EPSON Inkjet Printers.command.  I'm not sure these can be signed or pass Apples notorization.

2.  I have no clue about the libusb that is contained in the installer as it is a one step removed from pure Gutenprint code.  Likewise, I am not sure whether we can include the libusb--1.0.22.high_sierra.bottle.tar.gz.  That is produced by the third party app "brew" which is used in the Gutenprint package.

All this said, I hope that submitting a disk image with at least the installer package for Apple's notarization and getting the stamp of approval is a quick and easy process so it can be re-released.  An announcement of some sort would seem to be in order here once things are straightened out.  I don't have Catalina installed on my computer and cannot do any testing. Upgrading will have to wait as I have some critical things I need to get done on a stable system.


--
Matt 

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] question to install Gutenberg

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Oct 11, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li... <mailto:gim...@li...>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know Apple is going to require me to submit my builds for inspection before it will install but thought that was still a future requirement. I’ll have to check and see if this is now required. 
>> 
>> Steve Letter
>> Sent from my Commodore PET
> 
> I'd forgotten about that.  It is possible that may be the problem as I have never seen the error message that was quoted.  I haven't installed Catalina, and am not planning to do so for a while as I don't have any test computers.   I know that all apps must now be 64 bit which was certainly a factor in Gutenprint dropping all 32 bit binaries.  
> 
> Matt

This is indeed the case.  We will have to get Apple's stamp for it to be installed under Catalina.  I have moved the issue to a new thread --  mac OS Catalina 10.15.x installation

Matt

> 
>  
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma... <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:43 AM, oliver.lutz <oli...@bl... <mailto:oli...@bl...>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Im working with OS Catalina, 10.10.
>>>> I tried to install Gutenprint but get the following error message:
>>>> „gutenprint-5.3.3.pkg“ kann nicht geöffnet werden, da Apple darin nicht nach Schadsoftware suchen kann.
>>>> 
>>>> (means: Gutenprint can’t open, because Apple can’t search for bad software in it).
>>>> 
>>>> Can you help?
>>>> 
>>>> Yours
>>>> 
>>>> Oliver Lutzimp
>>> 
>>> Please check the version of mac os you are running.  mac os 10.10 is Yosemite and is several years old.  mac os Catalina was just released yesterday I believe.  Gutenprint has not been tested with that system.  However, the most likely problem is you Security setting.  Open System Preferences --> Security.   Make sure the choice for installing software is set to App store and identified developers.  The Gutenprint installer is properly signed by a recognized developer for mac os software.
>>> 

Oliver, I have found the problem.  As of now, the Gutenprint installer will not work with mac os 10.15.x Catalina.  Thank you for bringing this to the attention of Gutenprint.  I hope the issues can be resolved very shortly.  Gutenprint will find some way to indicate when the problem is solved and where to get an installer that will work

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wal...@ma...

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] question to install Gutenberg

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li...> wrote:
> 
> I know Apple is going to require me to submit my builds for inspection before it will install but thought that was still a future requirement. I’ll have to check and see if this is now required. 
> 
> Steve Letter
> Sent from my Commodore PET

I'd forgotten about that.  It is possible that may be the problem as I have never seen the error message that was quoted.  I haven't installed Catalina, and am not planning to do so for a while as I don't have any test computers.   I know that all apps must now be 64 bit which was certainly a factor in Gutenprint dropping all 32 bit binaries.  

Matt

 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:43 AM, oliver.lutz <oli...@bl... <mailto:oli...@bl...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Im working with OS Catalina, 10.10.
>>> I tried to install Gutenprint but get the following error message:
>>> „gutenprint-5.3.3.pkg“ kann nicht geöffnet werden, da Apple darin nicht nach Schadsoftware suchen kann.
>>> 
>>> (means: Gutenprint can’t open, because Apple can’t search for bad software in it).
>>> 
>>> Can you help?
>>> 
>>> Yours
>>> 
>>> Oliver Lutzimp
>> 
>> Please check the version of mac os you are running.  mac os 10.10 is Yosemite and is several years old.  mac os Catalina was just released yesterday I believe.  Gutenprint has not been tested with that system.  However, the most likely problem is you Security setting.  Open System Preferences --> Security.   Make sure the choice for installing software is set to App store and identified developers.  The Gutenprint installer is properly signed by a recognized developer for mac os software.
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>> --
>> Matt
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] question to install Gutenberg

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

I know Apple is going to require me to submit my builds for inspection before it will install but thought that was still a future requirement. I’ll have to check and see if this is now required. 

Steve Letter
Sent from my Commodore PET

> On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:43 AM, oliver.lutz <oli...@bl...> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Im working with OS Catalina, 10.10.
>> I tried to install Gutenprint but get the following error message:
>> „gutenprint-5.3.3.pkg“ kann nicht geöffnet werden, da Apple darin nicht nach Schadsoftware suchen kann.
>> 
>> (means: Gutenprint can’t open, because Apple can’t search for bad software in it).
>> 
>> Can you help?
>> 
>> Yours
>> 
>> Oliver Lutzimp
> 
> Please check the version of mac os you are running.  mac os 10.10 is Yosemite and is several years old.  mac os Catalina was just released yesterday I believe.  Gutenprint has not been tested with that system.  However, the most likely problem is you Security setting.  Open System Preferences --> Security.   Make sure the choice for installing software is set to App store and identified developers.  The Gutenprint installer is properly signed by a recognized developer for mac os software.
> 
> Matt
> 
> --
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] question to install Gutenberg

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:43 AM, oliver.lutz <oli...@bl...> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Im working with OS Catalina, 10.10.
> I tried to install Gutenprint but get the following error message:
> „gutenprint-5.3.3.pkg“ kann nicht geöffnet werden, da Apple darin nicht nach Schadsoftware suchen kann.
> 
> (means: Gutenprint can’t open, because Apple can’t search for bad software in it).
> 
> Can you help?
> 
> Yours
> 
> Oliver Lutzimp

Please check the version of mac os you are running.  mac os 10.10 is Yosemite and is several years old.  mac os Catalina was just released yesterday I believe.  Gutenprint has not been tested with that system.  However, the most likely problem is you Security setting.  Open System Preferences --> Security.   Make sure the choice for installing software is set to App store and identified developers.  The Gutenprint installer is properly signed by a recognized developer for mac os software.

Matt

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[Gimp-print-devel] Question regarding Gutenprint.

[Evgenii B. <ev...@ba...>]

Hello, dear developers of Gutenprint,

My name is Eugene. First of all, I would like to express all my respect and appreciation for such enormously huge and super useful software. You really helped to many people run their printing on a high level.  Bravo!   
I do sublimation by using Epson 1400 (1410). Although, this printer is pretty old but does the job great and I really happy with the price point as small business. Currently, I have 4 same printers printing with the same sublimation ink and paper. Recently, I've noticed that they provide slightly different printing results.  I decided to adjust it by using the Color Manager. However, it is pretty limited and I then found Gutenprint.  I was surprised by the options.  Unfortchantly, I couldn't use the latest 5.3.3 version for my Mac OS 10.14.6.  I print from photoshop and when it comes to select the Printer Features it doesn't show me the setting. I attached the screenshot just in case.  I also tried to print from Word with Gutenprint but it shows an error.  I tried version Gutenprint 5.2.15 and it works. However, I think it might miss new features which been added to 5.3.3.  I when through all forum support topics and didn't find any solution.  I know you might just tell me to create a topic and await your response. But I decided to test my luck and contact you directly.  

Thank you.
Best regard.
Eugene. 

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] shlib versions as intended?

[Greg T. <gd...@le...>]

Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> writes:

1> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:29:16 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> I am (belatedly) updating pkgsrc from 5.2.14 to 5.3.3.  I would expect
>> there to be at most one ABI break in there, from 5.2.x to 5.3.x.  I
>> compared the 5.2.14 shlib numbers to 5.3.3, and libgutenprint seems to
>> go from 2.8.0 to 9.4.0.  libgutenprintui2 goes from 1.0.0 to 2.4.0,
>> which is still surprising, as it's one ABI break and 4 ABI addiitions.
>>
>> 5.2.14:
>>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2534224 Sep 11 01:27 /usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprint.so.2.8.0
>>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   272480 Sep 11 01:27 /usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprintui2.so.1.0.0
>>
>> 5.3.3:
>>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 gdt  users  2672264 Oct 10 14:11 work/.destdir/usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprint.so.9.4.0
>>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 gdt  users   272016 Oct 10 14:11 work/.destdir/usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprintui2.so.2.4.0
>>
>> Perhaps there is some local issue, and perhaps I am confused and/or
>> missing something.  (I tried to find where these are set in the
>> sources, but didn't.)
>
> This all is set by configure.ac.  I *thought* I did it correctly, but
> it's possible I didn't.

I am reading diffs.  This really makes my head hurt and I am someone who
more or less understands this.

A few things (which if you don't want to deal with, I totally understand!):

0) This has been in the all the 5.3.x releases, so we are where we are.

1) There is no tag in git for 5.2.15.  I used -pre1 instead.

2) In configure.ac, there is talk of an error in preparing 5.2.8 and
moving from shlib major 2 to shlib major 4.   But 5.2.15 has
  pushdef([GUTENPRINT_CURRENT_INTERFACE], [10])
  pushdef([GUTENPRINT_BINARY_AGE],        [8])

which is the 2.8 that I'm seeing in build 5.12.15.   That seems good

3) There is MICRO_VERSION in configure.ac for the package version, but I
don't see any micro version for the lib.  I see later you are choosing
not to use it.  That's fine, but the MICRO_VERSION doc guidance to
increment it for lib changes is off base; it represents package
versions.

4) I think the rules as expressed in configure.ac for changing vars due
to incompatible changes are wrong.   It would have been far more helpful
of libtool to have people bump the major and set minor to 0 when there
is an incompatible change, as this is easier to understand.  But this is
the key formula:

  dnl The .soname version is (GCI - GBA).GBA

which means that "GCI++; GBA++" results in no change to MAJOR and
MINOR++.

So, when we want to bump MAJOR, we want the new GCI-GBA to be the old
GCI-GBA + 1.

configure.ac says:

  dnl 3. if interfaces have been deleted or changed *incompatibly*, set
  dnl      GCI = GBA + 1;
  dnl      GBA = 0;

and I think that should be

  dnl      GCI = (GCI-GBA) + 1;

which is pretty counterintuitive.  But the libtool docs say

  GGI = GCI + 1
  GBA = 0

as I read them at

  https://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/html_node/Updating-version-info.html

and that will result in a change from 2.8.0 to 11.0.0, which does not
seem sensible, so I suspect I am confused on some point here.

5) Looking at this diff

  git diff -r gutenprint-5_2_15-pre1 -r gutenprint-5_3_0 configure.ac

and semantically separating out unidiff

 pushdef([GUTENPRINT_NAME],              [gutenprint])
 pushdef([GUTENPRINT_MAJOR_VERSION],     [5])
-pushdef([GUTENPRINT_MINOR_VERSION],     [2])
-pushdef([GUTENPRINT_MICRO_VERSION],     [15])
-pushdef([GUTENPRINT_EXTRA_VERSION],     [-pre1])
+pushdef([GUTENPRINT_MINOR_VERSION],     [3])
+pushdef([GUTENPRINT_MICRO_VERSION],     [0])
+pushdef([GUTENPRINT_EXTRA_VERSION],     [])

-pushdef([GUTENPRINT_CURRENT_INTERFACE], [10])
-pushdef([GUTENPRINT_BINARY_AGE],        [8])
+pushdef([GUTENPRINT_CURRENT_INTERFACE], [9])
+pushdef([GUTENPRINT_BINARY_AGE],        [0])

-pushdef([GUTENPRINTUI2_CURRENT_INTERFACE], [1])
+pushdef([GUTENPRINTUI2_CURRENT_INTERFACE], [2])
 pushdef([GUTENPRINTUI2_BINARY_AGE],        [0])

It looks like the rule as documented was followed for libgutenprint,
resulting in a change from 2.8 to 9.0.  Assuming the ui2 lib had an ABI
break, the rule wasn't followed, but this case shows how the rule
doesn't make sense, as GCI=1/GBA=0 is stable under the rule.


What I would do is put in comments about the desired major and minor and
set:

  GBA = minor
  GCI = major + GBA

basically backing out libtool's logic, and verify that the shlib numbers
are as expected in the builds.


My dim impression is that this GCI/GBA scheme is actually helpful for
some systems that aren't ELF, even though for ELF/a.out it is majorly confusing.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] running tests with somewhat limited disk space?

[Greg T. <gd...@le...>]

Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> writes:

> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:25:05 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> I just tried to 'make check' 5.3.3.   It failed generating ppds because
>> it filled my filesystem.  I'm using a RAM/VM-backed tmpfs, which is 12G
>> in size.   I remember having to up the ramdisk size earlier, but 12G
>> seems like quite a lot, even in 2019.
>>
>> I wonder if there is any reasonable way to prune what is tested, or
>> generate/check with a smaller working size, or something else?   
>>
>> (Yes, I of course have bigger disks, but I also don't want to put this
>> kind of write workload on SSD; that's a lot of why my pkgsrc builds are
>> in a working directory in the tmpfs.)
>
> This is the CUPS PPD files; they take a little over 12GB.  I could
> probably cut it down a little by testing the global ones separately,
> which would mean 10.5 and 2.4GB respectively, but that wouldn't really
> solve the problem.

That would help me, and make 12G work, vs not, if that's a 20 minute
kind of thing.  But I see the point that 10.5ish vs 12.5ish isn't a gain
worth paying for.

> Unfortunately, refactoring this test would be a pain, and longer term
> PPD files are going away.  If you want to refactor it, go ahead, but I
> don't really want to put a lot of effort into this.

Given that, I'll probably just switch my ramdisk to 14G and see if that
works.  I don't want to work on this either, given that it seems hard
and not important long term.

Thanks for explaining.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] running tests with somewhat limited disk space?

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:25:05 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> I just tried to 'make check' 5.3.3.   It failed generating ppds because
> it filled my filesystem.  I'm using a RAM/VM-backed tmpfs, which is 12G
> in size.   I remember having to up the ramdisk size earlier, but 12G
> seems like quite a lot, even in 2019.
>
> I wonder if there is any reasonable way to prune what is tested, or
> generate/check with a smaller working size, or something else?   
>
> (Yes, I of course have bigger disks, but I also don't want to put this
> kind of write workload on SSD; that's a lot of why my pkgsrc builds are
> in a working directory in the tmpfs.)

This is the CUPS PPD files; they take a little over 12GB.  I could
probably cut it down a little by testing the global ones separately,
which would mean 10.5 and 2.4GB respectively, but that wouldn't really
solve the problem.

Unfortunately, refactoring this test would be a pain, and longer term
PPD files are going away.  If you want to refactor it, go ahead, but I
don't really want to put a lot of effort into this.
-- 
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] shlib versions as intended?

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 14:29:16 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> I am (belatedly) updating pkgsrc from 5.2.14 to 5.3.3.  I would expect
> there to be at most one ABI break in there, from 5.2.x to 5.3.x.  I
> compared the 5.2.14 shlib numbers to 5.3.3, and libgutenprint seems to
> go from 2.8.0 to 9.4.0.  libgutenprintui2 goes from 1.0.0 to 2.4.0,
> which is still surprising, as it's one ABI break and 4 ABI addiitions.
>
> 5.2.14:
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2534224 Sep 11 01:27 /usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprint.so.2.8.0
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   272480 Sep 11 01:27 /usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprintui2.so.1.0.0
>
> 5.3.3:
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 gdt  users  2672264 Oct 10 14:11 work/.destdir/usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprint.so.9.4.0
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 gdt  users   272016 Oct 10 14:11 work/.destdir/usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprintui2.so.2.4.0
>
> Perhaps there is some local issue, and perhaps I am confused and/or
> missing something.  (I tried to find where these are set in the
> sources, but didn't.)

This all is set by configure.ac.  I *thought* I did it correctly, but
it's possible I didn't.
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[Gimp-print-devel] shlib versions as intended?

[Greg T. <gd...@le...>]

I am (belatedly) updating pkgsrc from 5.2.14 to 5.3.3.  I would expect
there to be at most one ABI break in there, from 5.2.x to 5.3.x.  I
compared the 5.2.14 shlib numbers to 5.3.3, and libgutenprint seems to
go from 2.8.0 to 9.4.0.  libgutenprintui2 goes from 1.0.0 to 2.4.0,
which is still surprising, as it's one ABI break and 4 ABI addiitions.


5.2.14:
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2534224 Sep 11 01:27 /usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprint.so.2.8.0
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   272480 Sep 11 01:27 /usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprintui2.so.1.0.0

5.3.3:
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 gdt  users  2672264 Oct 10 14:11 work/.destdir/usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprint.so.9.4.0
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 gdt  users   272016 Oct 10 14:11 work/.destdir/usr/pkg/lib/libgutenprintui2.so.2.4.0

Perhaps there is some local issue, and perhaps I am confused and/or missing something.
(I tried to find where these are set in the sources, but didn't.)

[Gimp-print-devel] running tests with somewhat limited disk space?

[Greg T. <gd...@le...>]

I just tried to 'make check' 5.3.3.   It failed generating ppds because
it filled my filesystem.  I'm using a RAM/VM-backed tmpfs, which is 12G
in size.   I remember having to up the ramdisk size earlier, but 12G
seems like quite a lot, even in 2019.

I wonder if there is any reasonable way to prune what is tested, or
generate/check with a smaller working size, or something else?   

(Yes, I of course have bigger disks, but I also don't want to put this
kind of write workload on SSD; that's a lot of why my pkgsrc builds are
in a working directory in the tmpfs.)

[Gimp-print-devel] question to install Gutenberg

[oliver.lutz <oli...@bl...>]

Hi,
Im working with OS Catalina, 10.10.
I tried to install Gutenprint but get the following error message:
„gutenprint-5.3.3.pkg“ kann nicht geöffnet werden, da Apple darin nicht nach Schadsoftware suchen kann.

(means: Gutenprint can’t open, because Apple can’t search for bad software in it).

Can you help?

Yours

Oliver Lutz

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] New Mitsubishi printer CP-M1

[Solomon P. <pi...@sh...>]

On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 09:06:37PM +0000, Najera, Ed wrote:
> Do you have a new version that would support the Mitsubishi CP-D90DW 
> and CP-M1 full bleed dye-sub printers?

The CP-D90DW is already fully supported (except for panorama printing).

I believe Gutenprint 5.2.14 or newer should work okay, though I always 
recommend the newest release for best results.

The more recent CP-M1 is not supported. My research shows it uses a 
command language similar to the CP-D90DW, but requires a unique 
host-side image processing library (libCPM1lupinus) that is unique to 
that model series.

> If needed, I can provide a cups driver for both to make it easier to 
> add the D90 and M1 printers.  Thank you.

I encourage Mitsubishi to publicly release CUPS drivers for their 
printers, but unless they are provided in source code form (under a 
suitable license) it is likely impossible to to have it incorporated 
into Gutenprint.

That said, there are other alternatives; I will email you off-list about 
them.

Cheers,

 - Solomon
-- 
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[Gimp-print-devel] New Mitsubishi printer CP-M1

[Najera, E. <Ed....@me...>]

Hello,

Do you have a new version that would support the Mitsubishi CP-D90DW and CP-M1 full bleed dye-sub printers?

If needed, I can provide a cups driver for both to make it easier to add the D90 and M1 printers.  Thank you.

Best regards,

Ed Najera
Engineering Manager, VIS Printers

Mitsubishi Electric US
Visual and Imaging Systems Division
5900-A Katella Avenue, Cypress, CA 90630
Office: 714-252-7853  /  Mobile: 949-648-0462
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] HP ENVY 5540 DRIVER FOR MAC OS X 10.6.8

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 20:27:58 +0000 (UTC), Adrian Robertshaw via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
> HELLO
>
> i such a driver available to downlaod for my Mac? If so can you email the link please?!

Unfortunately, we do not have any support for that printer and nobody
has stepped up to maintain the PCL driver.
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[Gimp-print-devel] HP ENVY 5540 DRIVER FOR MAC OS X 10.6.8

[Adrian R. <adr...@ya...>]

HELLO

i such a driver available to downlaod for my Mac? If so can you email the link please?!

kind regards

Adrian Robertshaw
M    07973 563946

[Gimp-print-devel] Travis bulid on OS X

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

I'd like to enable the Travis run on OS X (currently it runs only on
Linux).  Has anyone run the build-release script on OS X?  Are there
any obvious failures there?

-- 
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