gimp-print-devel

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/21 12:41 PM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...
>>> <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al... <mailto:rl...@al...>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with
>>>>> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.
>>>>> Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
>>>>> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
>>>>> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs
>>>>> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
>>>>> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.
>>>> 
>>>> Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
>>>> addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling those
>>>> out would be good.
>>>> 
>>>> If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.
>>> 
>>> I have now tested the original v5.3.4-pre2, and the 4 build Steve made.  They have all the same
>>> problems.  Once you get the Printer Features displayed, you can change them, however whether or
>>> not you change them you will not be able to print.  The paper size always showing US Letter does
>>> make some sense.  It would be set by location of user.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>> 
>> Hopefully this will help.  I went back to v5.2.15 and tried the Epson Stylus Photo r800.  It is one
>> of the printers mentioned earlier in this thread.  Everything displayed properly without any
>> machinations.  It also printed without any lockup.  The r2200 and the XP-15000 were not supported at
>> the time.  Are there any other printers either in the Photo rxxx or perhaps the Stylus Pro series
>> that would be worth checking out.  I can check going forward to see where Gutenprint breaks down.
>>  That may be more valuable that backtracking to see what version of macos broke v5.3.4.
> 
> So let's make sure that we know what's going on here; please correct me if I get any of this wrong:
> 
> 1) Epson XP-15000 works simplified, does not work (i. e. no features window) with full PPD file or
> full PPD file with only up to ADVANCED1 options and reduced number of media sizes (still don't know
> whether a full PPD file with only BASIC options works).  Likewise Epson R800 and R1800.


I didn't look closely at the PPD files from the various builds.  Your assessment is correct except that I could get the Printer Features to show with the full PPD from the v5.3.4-pre2 and all the others.  You have to select Printer Features from a pop-up menu, let it show no features.  Next, use the pop-up menu to select some other item such as Layout.  Once you do that, you can go back to Printer Features and everything will be displayed.  The big prolem here is that hitting ther Print button does nothing.  The entire print window is frozen.  You can't even go back and choose Layout again.

> 2) Color laser printer works fine, either simplified or full.

Correct

> Is this correct, Steve and Matt?

I tested the Epson Stylus Photo r80o, the Epson Stylus Photo r1800, and the Canon Pro9000mkII with Gutenprint 5.2.15.  All three printers worked fine.  All the Printer Features showed and printing was immediate.

I tried to attach the PPDs earlier and the message bounced back.  I will send them uner separate cover.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/27/21 12:41 PM, Matt Broughton wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...
>> <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al... <mailto:rl...@al...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with
>>>> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.
>>>> Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
>>>> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
>>>> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
>>>>
>>>> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs
>>>> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
>>>> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
>>>>
>>>> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.
>>>
>>> Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
>>> addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling those
>>> out would be good.
>>>
>>> If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.
>>
>> I have now tested the original v5.3.4-pre2, and the 4 build Steve made.  They have all the same
>> problems.  Once you get the Printer Features displayed, you can change them, however whether or
>> not you change them you will not be able to print.  The paper size always showing US Letter does
>> make some sense.  It would be set by location of user.
>>
>> Matt
> 
> Hopefully this will help.  I went back to v5.2.15 and tried the Epson Stylus Photo r800.  It is one
> of the printers mentioned earlier in this thread.  Everything displayed properly without any
> machinations.  It also printed without any lockup.  The r2200 and the XP-15000 were not supported at
> the time.  Are there any other printers either in the Photo rxxx or perhaps the Stylus Pro series
> that would be worth checking out.  I can check going forward to see where Gutenprint breaks down.
>  That may be more valuable that backtracking to see what version of macos broke v5.3.4.

So let's make sure that we know what's going on here; please correct me if I get any of this wrong:

1) Epson XP-15000 works simplified, does not work (i. e. no features window) with full PPD file or
full PPD file with only up to ADVANCED1 options and reduced number of media sizes (still don't know
whether a full PPD file with only BASIC options works).  Likewise Epson R800 and R1800.

2) Color laser printer works fine, either simplified or full.

Is this correct, Steve and Matt?

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/27/21 12:41 PM, Matt Broughton wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...
>> <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al... <mailto:rl...@al...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with
>>>> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.
>>>> Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
>>>> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
>>>> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
>>>>
>>>> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs
>>>> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
>>>> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
>>>>
>>>> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.
>>>
>>> Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
>>> addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling those
>>> out would be good.
>>>
>>> If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.
>>
>> I have now tested the original v5.3.4-pre2, and the 4 build Steve made.  They have all the same
>> problems.  Once you get the Printer Features displayed, you can change them, however whether or
>> not you change them you will not be able to print.  The paper size always showing US Letter does
>> make some sense.  It would be set by location of user.
>>
>> Matt
> 
> Hopefully this will help.  I went back to v5.2.15 and tried the Epson Stylus Photo r800.  It is one
> of the printers mentioned earlier in this thread.  Everything displayed properly without any
> machinations.  It also printed without any lockup.  The r2200 and the XP-15000 were not supported at
> the time.  Are there any other printers either in the Photo rxxx or perhaps the Stylus Pro series
> that would be worth checking out.  I can check going forward to see where Gutenprint breaks down.
>  That may be more valuable that backtracking to see what version of macos broke v5.3.4.

OK, so what's different about the XP-15000, I need to look at it...

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with
>>> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.
>>> Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
>>> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
>>> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
>>> 
>>> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs
>>> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
>>> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
>>> 
>>> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.
>> 
>> Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
>> addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling those
>> out would be good.
>> 
>> If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.
> 
> I have now tested the original v5.3.4-pre2, and the 4 build Steve made.  They have all the same problems.  Once you get the Printer Features displayed, you can change them, however whether or not you change them you will not be able to print.  The paper size always showing US Letter does make some sense.  It would be set by location of user.
> 
> Matt

Hopefully this will help.  I went back to v5.2.15 and tried the Epson Stylus Photo r800.  It is one of the printers mentioned earlier in this thread.  Everything displayed properly without any machinations.  It also printed without any lockup.  The r2200 and the XP-15000 were not supported at the time.  Are there any other printers either in the Photo rxxx or perhaps the Stylus Pro series that would be worth checking out.  I can check going forward to see where Gutenprint breaks down.  That may be more valuable that backtracking to see what version of macos broke v5.3.4.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with
>> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.
>>  Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
>> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
>> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
>> 
>> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs
>> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
>> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
>> 
>> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.
> 
> Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
> addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling those
> out would be good.
> 
> If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.

I have now tested the original v5.3.4-pre2, and the 4 build Steve made.  They have all the same problems.  Once you get the Printer Features displayed, you can change them, however whether or not you change them you will not be able to print.  The paper size always showing US Letter does make some sense.  It would be set by location of user.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/27/21 11:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
> More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with
> identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.
>  Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the
> pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't
> print!!  The whole print window just freezes.
> 
> Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs
> show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other
> printers with the manufacturer's drivers.
> 
> I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.

Just realized another build I should have asked for: line 1221 use STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC in
addition to ADVANCED 1-4.  There would still be some differences in the PPD files, and ruling those
out would be good.

If ADVANCED1 doesn't work correctly, there's no point in testing ADVANCED2 and up.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma... <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma... <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li... <mailto:gim...@li...>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma... <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing. Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Gimp-print-devel mailing list
>>>>> Gim...@li... <mailto:Gim...@li...>
>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel>
>>>> 
>>>> Matt,
>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I uploaded 4 builds to snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-mattX. X being the value Robert asked for. If you can take a look, great. If not I will do it later tonight or over the weekend. 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> Downloaded all 4 of them and verified that the disk image mounts.  If you would please remove them.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>> 
>> Just a very quick report.  I am having some success with build 2.  I found a sequence of steps to go through in the print window to get the Printer Features displayed.  I need to back and retest build 1 to see if the same machinations work there.  I will get more done this weekend.
>> 
>> Matt
> 
> I tested the build 1 and found that the Printer Features did not show.  I went on the build 2 and played around with it a while.  I found a series of steps to take to get the Printer Features to show.  I have now gone back to the original v5.3.4-pre2 where we were first made aware of the problem.  I can get all the Printer Features to show.
> 1.  Bring up a Print window and choose Printer Features.  Nothing shows.
> 2.  Then, use the pop-up menu and select Layout.  All of Layout shows.  
> 3.  Finally use the pop-up menu and select Printer Features again.  Everything should show.
> 
> It must be done in that order.  Selecting Layout first and then selecting Printer Features won't work.  You have to go to Printer Features first, then Layout, and then back to Printer Features.
> 
> As I was testing, I noticed that selecting Layout expanded the printing pane.  Hmm. Now that the pane has been populated, all the Printer Features will show when you select it again.  This is with all the media sizes and all the other functions.  I'll go  back and test this in macos 10.11 and macos 10.12.  Steve, can you duplicate this?
> 
> Matt

More joy as the plot thickens.  I have tested the Canon Pro9000 Mk II and the Epson XP-15000 with identical results.  The printer will print as long as you don't get the Printer Features to show.  Once you get the Printer Features to show, you can't go back and display the other items in the pop-up menu such as Layout, Cover Page, Paper Feed, etc. The biggest problem is that it won't print!!  The whole print window just freezes.

Another problem.  Any changes to the PPD defaults  will not be shown in the Print window.  The PPDs show the the new Defaults, but the Print window does not pick them up.  I have not check other printers with the manufacturer's drivers.

I will continue testing with the other build Steve gave me.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma... <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li... <mailto:gim...@li...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma... <mailto:wal...@ma...>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing. Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Matt
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Gimp-print-devel mailing list
>>>> Gim...@li... <mailto:Gim...@li...>
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
>>> 
>>> Matt,
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> I uploaded 4 builds to snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-mattX. X being the value Robert asked for. If you can take a look, great. If not I will do it later tonight or over the weekend. 
>>> 
>>> Steve
>> 
>> Downloaded all 4 of them and verified that the disk image mounts.  If you would please remove them.
>> 
>> Matt
> 
> Just a very quick report.  I am having some success with build 2.  I found a sequence of steps to go through in the print window to get the Printer Features displayed.  I need to back and retest build 1 to see if the same machinations work there.  I will get more done this weekend.
> 
> Matt

I tested the build 1 and found that the Printer Features did not show.  I went on the build 2 and played around with it a while.  I found a series of steps to take to get the Printer Features to show.  I have now gone back to the original v5.3.4-pre2 where we were first made aware of the problem.  I can get all the Printer Features to show.
1.  Bring up a Print window and choose Printer Features.  Nothing shows.
2.  Then, use the pop-up menu and select Layout.  All of Layout shows.  
3.  Finally use the pop-up menu and select Printer Features again.  Everything should show.

It must be done in that order.  Selecting Layout first and then selecting Printer Features won't work.  You have to go to Printer Features first, then Layout, and then back to Printer Features.

As I was testing, I noticed that selecting Layout expanded the printing pane.  Hmm. Now that the pane has been populated, all the Printer Features will show when you select it again.  This is with all the media sizes and all the other functions.  I'll go  back and test this in macos 10.11 and macos 10.12.  Steve, can you duplicate this?

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing. Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Gimp-print-devel mailing list
>>> Gim...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
>> 
>> Matt,


>> 
>> I uploaded 4 builds to snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-mattX. X being the value Robert asked for. If you can take a look, great. If not I will do it later tonight or over the weekend. 
>> 
>> Steve
> 
> Downloaded all 4 of them and verified that the disk image mounts.  If you would please remove them.
> 
> Matt

Just a very quick report.  I am having some success with build 2.  I found a sequence of steps to go through in the print window to get the Printer Features displayed.  I need to back and retest build 1 to see if the same machinations work there.  I will get more done this weekend.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li...> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing.  Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Gimp-print-devel mailing list
>> Gim...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel
> 
> Matt,
> 
> I uploaded 4 builds to snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-mattX. X being the value Robert asked for. If you can take a look, great. If not I will do it later tonight or over the weekend. 
> 
> Steve

Downloaded all 4 of them and verified that the disk image mounts.  If you would please remove them.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing.  Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.
> 
> Matt
>  
> _______________________________________________
> Gimp-print-devel mailing list
> Gim...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel

Matt,

I uploaded 4 builds to snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-mattX. X being the value Robert asked for. If you can take a look, great. If not I will do it later tonight or over the weekend. 

Steve

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing.  Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.
> 
> Matt
>  
> _______________________________________________
> Gimp-print-devel mailing list
> Gim...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gimp-print-devel

Let’s see if we can pin down what broke first. The more we understand the problem the more likely we will get help (or find our own fix).

Steve

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/25/21 7:31 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
>> I will build them all in the morning.
> 
> If that's inconvenient, just build the first (ADVANCED4).  If the simplified PPD built that way
> (which will have a lot more options) succeeds, then we have to look elsewhere.
> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/25/21 2:06 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
>>>> Can I assume I revert the previous change?
>>> 
>>> Actually no, for now leave that change in, please.  It's possible that there are multiple problems
>>> here.
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:32 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/25/21 1:29 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of
>>>>>>>>>> options that's
>>>>>>>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are
>>>>>>>>> there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in
>>>>>>>>> size or Landscape of another size.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>>>>>>>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>>>>>>>> alternative):
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small
>>>>>>>> change to
>>>>>>>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to
>>>>>>>> narrow
>>>>>>>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page
>>>>>>>> sizes, the
>>>>>>>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>>>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>>>>>>> num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>>>>>>>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>>>>>>>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>>>>>>> the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>>>>>>> for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>>>>>>>   {
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>>>>>>>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each
>>>>>>>> point:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>>>>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>>>>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>>>>>>>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to
>>>>>>> print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I
>>>>>>> opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the
>>>>>>> crash report from BBEdit later today.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
>>>>>> step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> int maximum_level = simplified ?
>>>>>>   STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
>>>>>> see when (and if) things start working again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To clarify: use simplified PPD files with all of those tests.  If STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4
>>>>> works, don't bother with the others -- the problem will lie elsewhere.


I just finished going backward testing previous versions of macos.  I used the v5.3.4-rc2 download from Snapshots for all the testing.  Everything was fine in macos 10.11 El Capitan.  It was macos 10.12 where the problems started.  Something changed in macos. Everything Gutenprint remained the same.  Steve, is there some way for you to see what might have happened?  I know that's a big ask.

Matt
 

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/25/21 7:31 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
>> I will build them all in the morning.
> 
> If that's inconvenient, just build the first (ADVANCED4).  If the simplified PPD built that way
> (which will have a lot more options) succeeds, then we have to look elsewhere.
>>>> 

Not at all for me. I’ll build them on one system while doing my job on another.  I have everything set up (hacked) to build.  I hope Matt will run the actual test.  If he doesn’t I will have to do it later in the day, when I’m not working.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/25/21 7:31 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
> I will build them all in the morning.

If that's inconvenient, just build the first (ADVANCED4).  If the simplified PPD built that way
(which will have a lot more options) succeeds, then we have to look elsewhere.

>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/25/21 2:06 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
>>> Can I assume I revert the previous change?
>>
>> Actually no, for now leave that change in, please.  It's possible that there are multiple problems
>> here.
>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:32 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2/25/21 1:29 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of
>>>>>>>>> options that's
>>>>>>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>>>>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are
>>>>>>>> there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in
>>>>>>>> size or Landscape of another size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>>>>>>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>>>>>>> alternative):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small
>>>>>>> change to
>>>>>>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to
>>>>>>> narrow
>>>>>>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page
>>>>>>> sizes, the
>>>>>>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>>>>>> num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>>>>>>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>>>>>>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>>>>>> the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>>>>>> for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>>>>>>   {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>>>>>>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each
>>>>>>> point:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>>>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>>>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>>>>>>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to
>>>>>> print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I
>>>>>> opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the
>>>>>> crash report from BBEdit later today.
>>>>>
>>>>> So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
>>>>> step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:
>>>>>
>>>>> int maximum_level = simplified ?
>>>>>   STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;
>>>>>
>>>>> Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
>>>>> see when (and if) things start working again.
>>>>
>>>> To clarify: use simplified PPD files with all of those tests.  If STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4
>>>> works, don't bother with the others -- the problem will lie elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

I will build them all in the morning.

Steve Letter

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/25/21 2:06 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
>> Can I assume I revert the previous change?
> 
> Actually no, for now leave that change in, please.  It's possible that there are multiple problems here.
> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:32 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/25/21 1:29 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>>>>> On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of options that's
>>>>>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>>>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in size or Landscape of another size.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>>>>>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>>>>>> alternative):
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small change to
>>>>>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to narrow
>>>>>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page sizes, the
>>>>>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>>>>>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>>>>> num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>>>>>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>>>>>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>>>>> the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>>>>> for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>>>>>   {
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>>>>>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each point:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>>>>>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the crash report from BBEdit later today.
>>>> 
>>>> So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
>>>> step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:
>>>> 
>>>> int maximum_level = simplified ?
>>>>   STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;
>>>> 
>>>> Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
>>>> see when (and if) things start working again.
>>> 
>>> To clarify: use simplified PPD files with all of those tests.  If STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4
>>> works, don't bother with the others -- the problem will lie elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/25/21 2:06 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel wrote:
> Can I assume I revert the previous change?

Actually no, for now leave that change in, please.  It's possible that there are multiple problems here.

>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:32 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/25/21 1:29 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>>>> On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of options that's
>>>>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in size or Landscape of another size.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>>>>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>>>>> alternative):
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small change to
>>>>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to narrow
>>>>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page sizes, the
>>>>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>>>>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>>>>
>>>>>  stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>>>>  num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>>>>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>>>>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>>>>  the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>>>>  for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>>>>    {
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>>>>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each point:
>>>>>
>>>>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>>>>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>>>>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the crash report from BBEdit later today.
>>>
>>> So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
>>> step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:
>>>
>>>  int maximum_level = simplified ?
>>>    STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;
>>>
>>> Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
>>> see when (and if) things start working again.
>>
>> To clarify: use simplified PPD files with all of those tests.  If STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4
>> works, don't bother with the others -- the problem will lie elsewhere.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

Can I assume I revert the previous change?

Steve Letter
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> On Feb 25, 2021, at 1:32 PM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/25/21 1:29 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
>>> On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of options that's
>>>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in size or Landscape of another size.
>>>> 
>>>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>>>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>>>> alternative):
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small change to
>>>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to narrow
>>>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page sizes, the
>>>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>>> 
>>>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>>>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>>> 
>>>>  stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>>>  num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>>>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>>>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>>>  the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>>>  for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>>>    {
>>>> 
>>>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>>>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each point:
>>>> 
>>>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>>>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>>>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>>>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the crash report from BBEdit later today.
>> 
>> So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
>> step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:
>> 
>>  int maximum_level = simplified ?
>>    STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;
>> 
>> Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
>> see when (and if) things start working again.
> 
> To clarify: use simplified PPD files with all of those tests.  If STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4
> works, don't bother with the others -- the problem will lie elsewhere.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Driver needed

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Olha Karaim <moy...@ho...> wrote:
> 
> Do you have a driver for HP Laser Jet 1018 for Mac OS Big Sur on Mac Book Pro?
> 
> Thank you.
  Unfortunately no.  The LaserJet 1018 is a host based system so it does not use a standard code base.  Gutenprint has no maintainer to develop drivers for this.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/25/21 1:29 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of options that's
>>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>>
>>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>>
>>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>>
>>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in size or Landscape of another size.
>>>
>>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>>> alternative):
>>>
>>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small change to
>>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to narrow
>>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page sizes, the
>>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>>
>>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>>
>>>   stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>>   num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>>   the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>>   for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>>     {
>>>
>>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each point:
>>>
>>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
>>
>> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the crash report from BBEdit later today.
> 
> So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
> step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:
> 
>   int maximum_level = simplified ?
>     STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;
> 
> Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
> see when (and if) things start working again.

To clarify: use simplified PPD files with all of those tests.  If STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4
works, don't bother with the others -- the problem will lie elsewhere.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Robert K. <rl...@al...>]

On 2/25/21 10:09 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of options that's
>>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>>>
>>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>>>
>>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>>>
>>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in size or Landscape of another size.
>>
>> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
>> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
>> alternative):
>>
>> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small change to
>> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to narrow
>> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page sizes, the
>> problem lies elsewhere.
>>
>> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
>> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
>> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
>> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
>> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
>>
>>   stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>>   num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
>> +  if (num_opts > 20)
>> +    num_opts = 20;
>>   the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>>   for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>>     {
>>
>> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
>> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each point:
>>
>> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
>> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
>> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
>> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter
> 
> Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the crash report from BBEdit later today.

So that suggests that the problem isn't with paper sizes (or that there's another problem).  Next
step is around line 1222 in genppd.c:

  int maximum_level = simplified ?
    STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC : STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4;

Please change STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_BASIC first to STP_PARAMETER_LEVEL_ADVANCED4 then 3, 2, and 1 to
see when (and if) things start working again.

[Gimp-print-devel] Driver needed

[Olha K. <moy...@ho...>]

Do you have a driver for HP Laser Jet 1018 for Mac OS Big Sur on Mac Book Pro?

Thank you.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:30 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
> 
> On 2/24/21 11:12 AM, Matt Broughton wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> wrote:
>>> Yes.  This is suggesting that it's likely the number of options or number of pages of options that's
>>> the problem.  It could still be paper sizes, since the simplified PPD contain fewer.
>>> 
>>> One other thing to try would be the full PPD for a color laser printer.  This contains a lot of
>>> options, but even the full PPD files support fewer media sizes with laser printers.
>> 
>> The full PPD for the "Generic PCL Color Laser LF Printer" works fine.  All the options are there -- General, Output Control Common, Output Control Extra 1-5.
>> 
>> There are 19 ImageableArea entries.  A check of the ImageableAreas shows no duplicates in size or Landscape of another size.
> 
> OK.  If you're willing to muck with a little bit of code and rebuild, or alternatively edit PPD
> files by hand, there's something else I'd like to try, to reduce the number of page sizes (either
> alternative):
> 
> 1) Reduce the maximum number of paper sizes in genppd.  That will require making a small change to
> it, rebuilding, and regenerating the PPD file(s).  You can try number other than 20 to try to narrow
> down where it happens (which would be useful).  If you still have problems with 20 page sizes, the
> problem lies elsewhere.
> 
> diff --git a/src/cups/genppd.c b/src/cups/genppd.c
> index aa47aad8..f132a0d9 100644
> --- a/src/cups/genppd.c
> +++ b/src/cups/genppd.c
> @@ -467,6 +467,8 @@ print_page_sizes(gpFile fp, stp_vars_t *v, int simplified,
> 
>   stp_describe_parameter(v, "PageSize", &desc);
>   num_opts = stp_string_list_count(desc.bounds.str);
> +  if (num_opts > 20)
> +    num_opts = 20;
>   the_papers = stp_malloc(sizeof(paper_t) * num_opts);
>   for (i = 0; i < num_opts; i++)
>     {
> 
> 2) Manually edit one of the failing PPD files to cut down on the number of page sizes.  There are
> four places you need to edit, and you need to make sure to have the same page sizes at each point:
> 
> *OpenUI *PageSize/Media Size: PickOne
> *OpenUI *PageRegion/Media Size: PickOne
> *DefaultImageableArea: Letter
> *DefaultPaperDimension: Letter

Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem.  Nothing showed for Printer Features trying to print from Preview app.  I also tried BBEdit (a great text editor) and it crashed as soon as I opened the Printer Features menu.  I was able to grab the Console log, the System log, and the crash report from BBEdit later today.

Matt

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Steve L. <sle...@ya...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Steve Letter <sle...@ya...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:57 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Matt, 
>>>> 
>>>> If you’d like I can make the change and build it for you tomorrow morning. 
>>>> 
>>>> Steve Letter
>>>> Sent from my Symbolics Lisp Machine using zmail. 
>>> 
>>> That would  be great Steve.  My build attempt crashed at building gutenprint_5.3-gutenprint.o. I did one try at editing the PPD but I need to recheck my work.  I think I was down to 18 paper sizes.  `cupstestppd -v` didn't complain about any mismatched paper entries.  It still still didn't show anything under Printer Features.  I'll try again tomorrow using the media size etc copied and pasted from the Simplified PPD.  I'll try to catch anything I see from the Console and System log.  At least we know now that it did work until macos 10.11 or 10.12.
>>> 
>>> Matt
>>> 
>> I put the build in Snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-Matt.dmg. Please remove it after you download it. 
> 
> Thanks Steve.  I hve downloaded it.  I don't have permission to upload, would you please delete it.
> 
> Matt

Done.

Re: [Gimp-print-devel] Mac Big sur

[Matt B. <wal...@ma...>]

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Steve Letter <sle...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:11 PM, Matt Broughton <wal...@ma...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 8:57 PM, Steve Letter via Gimp-print-devel <gim...@li...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Matt, 
>>> 
>>> If you’d like I can make the change and build it for you tomorrow morning. 
>>> 
>>> Steve Letter
>>> Sent from my Symbolics Lisp Machine using zmail. 
>> 
>> That would  be great Steve.  My build attempt crashed at building gutenprint_5.3-gutenprint.o.  I did one try at editing the PPD but I need to recheck my work.  I think I was down to 18 paper sizes.  `cupstestppd -v` didn't complain about any mismatched paper entries.  It still still didn't show anything under Printer Features.  I'll try again tomorrow using the media size etc copied and pasted from the Simplified PPD.  I'll try to catch anything I see from the Console and System log.  At least we know now that it did work until macos 10.11 or 10.12.
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
> I put the build in Snapshots, gutenprint-5.3.4-Matt.dmg. Please remove it after you download it. 

Thanks Steve.  I hve downloaded it.  I don't have permission to upload, would you please delete it.

Matt