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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 20:27:33
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:13:15 -0500 From: Karl Heinz Kremer <kh...@kh...> --x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible to run the print "plugin" without Gimp running? I'd like to run just the print program.=20 How do I do this? You can't, really; Henryk's Ghostscript stuff can run as part of Ghostscipt, but it can't really run standalone. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
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From: Karl H. K. <kh...@kh...> - 2000-01-29 20:14:33
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Is it possible to run the print "plugin" without Gimp running? I'd
like to run just the print program.=20
How do I do this?
Karl Heinz
--=20
Karl Heinz Kremer kh...@kh...
http://www.khk.net
ICQ: 41190739
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 20:07:41
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------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:53:17 -0800 From: "Martin Weber" <ma...@gm...> To: gim...@sc... Subject: Colormanagement Here is an interesting colormanagement for future GIMP releases: http://www.abaforum.es/martim/lcms.htm ------- End of forwarded message ------- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:55:32 -0800 From: "Martin Weber" <ma...@gm...> To: gim...@sc... Subject: Colormanagement II http://www.efg2.com/Lab/Library/Color.htm |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 19:30:36
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Looks like a great start. I suggest not putting mailto's to us, because these pages will get indexed and those mailto's will be a nice spam trap. Sourceforge has a page that lets you send messages (that get emailed) to individual developers; probably linking to that would be better. Obviously the text needs to be cleaned up some, but that will get fixed... |
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From: Nicholas P. <pc...@in...> - 2000-01-29 17:21:18
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Until we get a working loginfo, I've crontabbed the website update. At the moment it's set to hourly so I can see if it works ok. BTW -- Have a look at the state.php3 file. It contains/will contain most of the 'data' such as supported printers. It could do with some notes about the support for each model. For example, instead of=20 'EPSON Stylus Color 850' =3D> '', It wants=20 'EPSON Stylus Color 850' =3D> 'Works only at 360dpi currently.', --=20 <pc...@in...> <http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/> 2048/BEC44395 1999/08/02 Nicholas C. Piper <nic...@in...> If you want to change the automatic PGP actions of my mailer, see; http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/Personal/personal.php3?page=3Dpgp |
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From: Nicholas P. <pc...@in...> - 2000-01-29 16:38:31
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As of about an hour ago -- The 850 driver is broken for anything above 360dpi. 720dpi microweave produces lots of pages with the top 7 or 8 lines being random characters in several colours (rows of red, blue, etc.). Softweave produces loads of blank pages. 360dpi prints, but produces terrible looking output, looks more like 100 dpi and every 3 cm or so there is a horizontal band of red. Note that the printer is actually an 860, but I don't think much is different internally. --=20 <pc...@in...> <http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/> 2048/BEC44395 1999/08/02 Nicholas C. Piper <nic...@in...> If you want to change the automatic PGP actions of my mailer, see; http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/Personal/personal.php3?page=3Dpgp |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-29 16:11:04
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Ok, CVS seems to be fully working now. I just committed a very early version of "unprint". It doesn't produce any output, other than error messages, but, it's a start. Maybe tomorrow it will have output... Later, Eric |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-29 16:10:01
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> I couldn't find anywhere that suggested this could be automated (can > we run cron jobs on sourceforge ?), so this is my current solution ; > > The WWW site is in cvs (dir www). To then copy the current CVS version > into the "live" site, on shell1 (via ssh) > /home/groups/gimp-print/updateWebFromCVS.sh is run. This should update > the site into our www directory, and then fix permissions so that > someone else could do it next time. It is retrieved as anonymous, so > you shouldn't need any auth. You can trigger this to be done automatically by placing a command in the loginfo file in the CVSROOT directory. The CVS documentation explains how to do this. On one of the other sites I maintain we have this in loginfo: ALL $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/cvs-log %s $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/www.list $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/commitlog ^www /bin/sh $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/updateweb.sh %s >> $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/updatelog 2>&1 & And updateweb.sh: date cat sleep 2 cd /u/ale/superk echo cvs -q update -d `echo $1 | awk '{split($0,files);for(i=2;i<=NF;i++){print $1 "/" files[i]}}'` cvs -q update -d `echo $1 | awk '{split($0,files);for(i=2;i<=NF;i++){print $1 "/" files[i]}}'` echo Entering directory /u/ale/superk/`echo $1 | awk '{print $1}'` cd /u/ale/superk/`echo $1 | awk '{print $1}'` make That may be a little fancier than we need. Eric |
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From: Nicholas P. <pc...@in...> - 2000-01-29 15:29:52
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I couldn't find anywhere that suggested this could be automated (can we run cron jobs on sourceforge ?), so this is my current solution ; The WWW site is in cvs (dir www). To then copy the current CVS version into the "live" site, on shell1 (via ssh) /home/groups/gimp-print/updateWebFromCVS.sh is run. This should update the site into our www directory, and then fix permissions so that someone else could do it next time. It is retrieved as anonymous, so you shouldn't need any auth. So, feel free to make changes. --=20 <pc...@in...> <http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/> 2048/BEC44395 1999/08/02 Nicholas C. Piper <nic...@in...> If you want to change the automatic PGP actions of my mailer, see; http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/Personal/personal.php3?page=3Dpgp |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-29 13:38:19
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> That's true, as I understand it. So you're OK now? Yep. At least, I could check stuff out. I'll try committing something before I go to bed tonight. Eric |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 13:34:55
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Cc: q...@so... From: sh...@al... Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:24:20 +0900 > Looks like things may be fixed. Let Quentin and me know how things are. No change. I still couldn't check out as user sharkey. On the assumption that something was wrong with my local account, I started unsetting CVS related environment variables. Eventually, I found one that seemed to cause the problem. I had CVS_SERVER set to "env LOGNAME=sharkey cvs" which is different than the default of just "cvs". This setting works with the CVS server I use for work but the Source Forge server balks on it. I think it must be a security setting that they don't allow CVS accounts to access any executables other than cvs. That's true, as I understand it. So you're OK now? |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 13:21:00
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:01:24 +0000 From: Nicholas Piper <pc...@in...> I've uploaded a first-cut website to http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/gimp-print/. I put it in /gimp-print/ rather than top-level as I thought I'd better wait for a go-ahead. We're a team, we get credit as a team. 3.1 is our work, not any one individuals. Also, work on the GhostScript driver is ongoing. Other than that, it's a good start. Obviously content is low at the moment. I'll have a look in the source in a few moments to see if there is a printer list anywhere (I've not looked at it yet!). Otherwise, could we knock one up ? I wonder if we can have the website under CVS as well... We should probably do so, even if it's a bit clunky, although Marc Lehmann said that he had problems with the CVS server crashing and leaving lock files around when he tried it (something to do with embedded RCS keywords, apparently). |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-29 07:26:05
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> Looks like things may be fixed. Let Quentin and me know how things are. No change. I still couldn't check out as user sharkey. On the assumption that something was wrong with my local account, I started unsetting CVS related environment variables. Eventually, I found one that seemed to cause the problem. I had CVS_SERVER set to "env LOGNAME=sharkey cvs" which is different than the default of just "cvs". This setting works with the CVS server I use for work but the Source Forge server balks on it. I think it must be a security setting that they don't allow CVS accounts to access any executables other than cvs. I've had this variable set in my profile since 1996 at least, and I had forgotten all about it. Eric > ------- Start of forwarded message ------- > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:33:59 -0800 > From: Quentin Cregan <q...@so...> > To: Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> > Cc: ad...@so... > Subject: Re: CVS access problems > In-Reply-To: <200...@we...>; from rl...@al... on Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 04:20:53PM -0800 > > Hi Robert, > > I've reset the perms on the directories. If you still have issues, > please let me know. > > > - -Quentin > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 04:20:53PM -0800, Robert Krawitz wrote: > > A number of people in my project (gimp-print, project ID > > 1537) have reported problems accessing our CVS repository. > > I suspect that there are permissions problems with the print > > directory at top level, but since I can't log in to > > cvs1.sourceforge.net to look at it, I can't fix it up. > > Could you please check into this? > > - -- > :::: Quentin Cregan <q...@so...> > :::- Systems Engineer - Sourceforge.net > :::- Project Manager - secure.linux.com > ::- "Strangers have the best lollies" - Children's books you'll never see > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > > _______________________________________________ > Gimp-print-devel mailing list > Gim...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/gimp-print-devel |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-29 05:29:07
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> I've uploaded a first-cut website to > http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/gimp-print/. I put it in > /gimp-print/ rather than top-level as I thought I'd better wait for a > go-ahead. Looks pretty good to me. Having two navigation bars surrounding the title looks a little silly, though. Why don't you move one of them to the very bottom of the page? > I wonder if we can have the website under CVS as well... I don't see why not. Eric |
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From: Nicholas P. <pc...@in...> - 2000-01-29 03:05:23
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I've uploaded a first-cut website to http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/gimp-print/. I put it in /gimp-print/ rather than top-level as I thought I'd better wait for a go-ahead. Obviously content is low at the moment. I'll have a look in the source in a few moments to see if there is a printer list anywhere (I've not looked at it yet!). Otherwise, could we knock one up ? I wonder if we can have the website under CVS as well... --=20 <pc...@in...> <http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/> 2048/BEC44395 1999/08/02 Nicholas C. Piper <nic...@in...> If you want to change the automatic PGP actions of my mailer, see; http://www.innotts.co.uk/~nicholas/Personal/personal.php3?page=3Dpgp |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 02:40:35
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I flushed all the globals for real (and I think I cleaned up the memory leaks) in everything except print.c (where it doesn't matter) and print-ps.c (just a couple of FILE *'s, but that also doesn't matter too terribly much). print-escp2.c got the real treatment; I put all the softweave stuff into a struct (shades of C++?). I also got rid of the broken 1440x720 and 2880x720 (aka 1440x720 two-pass) microweave modes. I didn't feel like fixing them; if someone wants to, go ahead. Henryk, could you grab the latest stuff from the repository (print-escp2.c is at 1.48) and see how that works in your Ghostscript driver? If that looks good, I think we can start moving ahead on this. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 02:19:15
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Looks like things may be fixed. Let Quentin and me know how things are. ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:33:59 -0800 From: Quentin Cregan <q...@so...> To: Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> Cc: ad...@so... Subject: Re: CVS access problems In-Reply-To: <200...@we...>; from rl...@al... on Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 04:20:53PM -0800 Hi Robert, I've reset the perms on the directories. If you still have issues, please let me know. - -Quentin On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 04:20:53PM -0800, Robert Krawitz wrote: > A number of people in my project (gimp-print, project ID > 1537) have reported problems accessing our CVS repository. > I suspect that there are permissions problems with the print > directory at top level, but since I can't log in to > cvs1.sourceforge.net to look at it, I can't fix it up. > Could you please check into this? - -- :::: Quentin Cregan <q...@so...> :::- Systems Engineer - Sourceforge.net :::- Project Manager - secure.linux.com ::- "Strangers have the best lollies" - Children's books you'll never see ------- End of forwarded message ------- |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 00:29:17
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:21:04 -0500
From: Robert L Krawitz <rl...@al...>
CC: gim...@so...
From: sh...@al...
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:30:24 +0900
> Henryk's having some problems with
> his Sourceforge account, so he asked me to do this for him.
Ah, so it's not just me?
I've filed bug 101232 on SourceForge describing my problems
connecting to the CVS repository as user sharkey. It's been
assigned to someone, but no response yet.
Is it just problems connecting to the CVS repository -- can you do
other stuff just fine? I wonder if it's a permission problem of some
kind in the repository tarball I gave them to start things off.
I pulled down a CVS tarball, and the permissions on the files look
right to me.
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-29 00:12:12
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From: sh...@al... Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:30:24 +0900 > Henryk's having some problems with > his Sourceforge account, so he asked me to do this for him. Ah, so it's not just me? I've filed bug 101232 on SourceForge describing my problems connecting to the CVS repository as user sharkey. It's been assigned to someone, but no response yet. Is it just problems connecting to the CVS repository -- can you do other stuff just fine? I wonder if it's a permission problem of some kind in the repository tarball I gave them to start things off. I want to commit the prototype for the escp2 to ppm converter soon. It's not done yet, but, I've been using CVS for all my work for the past three years, and now I get itchy when I'm working on something outside of CVS control. I prefer the commit early, commit often method. Early on when I started working on this I had problems before I started checking stuff into (my local) repository. I definitely agree with you. |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-28 14:32:03
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> Henryk's having some problems with > his Sourceforge account, so he asked me to do this for him. Ah, so it's not just me? I've filed bug 101232 on SourceForge describing my problems connecting to the CVS repository as user sharkey. It's been assigned to someone, but no response yet. I've tried this from three different systems now. Originally I tried it from my laptop, which was running OpenSSH and behind a firewall. I found a system which was running the non-free ssh and one that was not behind a firewall, but, in both cases the results were the same. It's strange. I want to commit the prototype for the escp2 to ppm converter soon. It's not done yet, but, I've been using CVS for all my work for the past three years, and now I get itchy when I'm working on something outside of CVS control. I prefer the commit early, commit often method. Later, Eric |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-28 14:19:40
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I've put Henryk "Buggs" Richter's port of the plugin to a GhostScript driver in the repository in the gdevstp700 top level directory. This is version 0.1.2 of that driver. Henryk's having some problems with his Sourceforge account, so he asked me to do this for him. We'll have to merge the two source bases, becasuse we don't want to maintain two identical source trees, but we'll cross that bridge when Henryk has his account. Henryk, if you haven't done so already, could you please subscribe to gim...@so...? You can find it on sourceforge.net->software map->printers->gimp-print->mailing lists. -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-28 12:39:38
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:59:46 +0100 From: Andy Thaller <th...@ph...> Working on the canon-driver I've realized there are combinations of resolution,paper and ink that just don't make sense. While this isn't really a great insight I nonetheless wanted to discuss it here. When it comes to a redesign of the GUI I suggest we make it somewhat dynamic so it takes the valid combinations into account and hides the unsupported ones. Perhaps we should think about a mechanism in the backend to allow for this kind of flexibility. It already is slightly dynamic; whenever the choice of printer changes, the available paper sizes, resolution, paper type, and paper source options are updated. This particular problem could be solved fairly easily, I think, but in general the UI isn't very flexible. There's a package called pdq out there that acts as a replacement to the lp system (at http://feynman.tam.uiuc.edu/pdq/) that looks like a big step in the right direction for Linux/Unix printing in general, although currently its UI support is also static. I suspect that in the long run they're going to want to do more UI hacking than we will, although if we come up with a good model they might be interested in borrowing from it. (As far as I can tell, we're basically at the forefront of free printing systems for Linux in general right now in a lot of ways. What's scary is that even in terms of UI we're not giving up much, as clunky as it is right now.) -- Robert Krawitz <rl...@al...> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lp...@uu... "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton |
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From: Robert L K. <rl...@al...> - 2000-01-28 12:26:10
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From: sh...@al... Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:28:54 +0900 > > In softweave mode, or microweave? > > I believe it was using microweave mode. > > The really slow (1 line/pass) way? No, I'm sorry. I just checked the source. Microweave is off, if I'm reading it correctly. Well, if softweave still works with the full complement of nozzles using the old command set on new printers, I guess it's hard to argue with success. |
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From: Andy T. <th...@ph...> - 2000-01-28 11:57:14
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Working on the canon-driver I've realized there are combinations of resolution,paper and ink that just don't make sense. While this isn't really a great insight I nonetheless wanted to discuss it here. When it comes to a redesign of the GUI I suggest we make it somewhat dynamic so it takes the valid combinations into account and hides the unsupported ones. Perhaps we should think about a mechanism in the backend to allow for this kind of flexibility. Andy. |
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From: <sh...@al...> - 2000-01-28 07:30:25
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> > In softweave mode, or microweave? > > I believe it was using microweave mode. > > The really slow (1 line/pass) way? No, I'm sorry. I just checked the source. Microweave is off, if I'm reading it correctly. > What I'm really concerned about is > softweave. Even a boat anchor will print in (pseudo)microweave mode. Wow, you must be a better programmer than I. I don't think I could get a boat anchor to print, even in microweave mode. Eric |