From: Groepaz <gr...@gm...> - 2004-08-25 11:27:30
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On Wednesday 25 August 2004 01:02, Michael Steil wrote: > > the whole point is that tools to do exactly this _do exist already_. > > noone needs linux to do this. > > With all these features (SMB, FTP etc.) included? no, since these features are irrelevant to a pirate or anyone else who wants an image of his dvd (there _are_ legitimate uses of that afterall, and making an image alone isnt piracy at all, distributing the image is). look at http://membres.lycos.fr/ooze/NGC/ for example - with a tool like this, why the hell would you bother using linux for making an image? and with http://www.sadistech.com/gcmtool/ (look! a sourceforge project!), why would you be waiting for a filesystem driver when this tool can do everything needed, easier than it could ever be using linux? > But they do ban atomic bombs, because they can be used for killing > *only*. > There is *no* use for the drivers other than reading and copying games. thats nonsence. what if i want to examine the contents of a game in order to reverse engineer them? what if i want to create a mediaplayer to play those movies on my MGS discs? what about serving the dvd contents to my pc so i can use them with the emulator i am writing? what about running executeables from retail games from within linux? i'm sure i could make this list a lot longer, and i'm sure other people have other uses too. > Please do not misunderstand me: I appreciate the work that has been > done, but the only possible use is piracy, unless we find a way to > burn/press our own DVD. But even in this case, we would only need the > device driver, not the filesystem driver, as we could use ISO9660 or > UDF instead. i personally think its just funny how people suddenly go bezerk when a certain thing is mildly related to piracy. i find it even more amusing that the same people seem to think that pirates are to stupid to write their own ripping software (or their own loaders for that matter). and at the same time, they release MAME for everyone to play all the huge amount of arcade roms they legally own, alright :=P especially the latter is *much* more questionable than a filesystem driver could ever be, and denying that the primary use of MAME is playing pirated roms is just equally pathetic as this whole filesystem dicsussion. gpz |