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I managed :)
Sorry for the disturbance

I'd like to connect to a (debian) filesystem via NFS. What are the steps to
compile a kernel which can do that? I suppose I have to change the
commandline in the gamecube config file? I really need some help as I'm not
a linux expert.

Thx, JockyW

Jon Masters wrote:
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> Hi there,
> 
> I finally bought a Gamecube so that I can actually contribute some cod=
e
> fixes and so on. Since I am in the UK where the PSO and BB Adapter
> really did not take off I would like to know where I can cheaply obtai=
n
> these items or if anyone is selling bits.

in germany they started in february to sell BBA again.

> Someone suggested a German chain which I could pick some up from since=
 I
> will be in Germany in a few weeks so can you tell me again now please?

you could try it at Saturn, MediaMarkt or ProMarkt, too. They have 
Gamecubes, but I'm not sure if they sell BBAs. If you you are visiting a=

friend in Germany, let him/her order a BBA online, for example at 
www.konsole24.de (50=80 + 5=80 shipping, this is the cheapest offer i fo=
und)

Rob Reilink wrote:

> http://www.gc-linux.org/docs/yagcd/chap2.html#sec2.4.1
> http://www.gc-linux.org/docs/yagcd/chap5.html#sec5.7
> 
> Not an IDE drive, but an 8 bit wide custom bus. Don't doubt though, that
> with a CPLD and a kernel driver a harddisk can be attached

Exactly what I was planning since I recently bought a Coolrunner devkit 
to do this stuff. So I will get my unit up and running and then see if I 
can get a disk installed but of course first need to get it wokring and 
verify that the Gamecube will be happy to still boot.

Probably need to implement a state machine which is transparent to the 
native Gamecube logic so as to continue to allow it to boot.

Please contact me offlist if you are able to help.

Jon.

On Monday 01 March 2004 09:47, Rob Reilink wrote:
> Have you thought about the IPL/ROM replacement? It has been done by
> tmbinc, I'm working on my own solution atm, which will use a flash ram
> instead of a datel memory card, combined with a CPLD.
>
> Does anyone have a good idea about some 'hello world' code? It should be
> extremely small to fit in the CPLD.

init the controller, and enable the rumble motor... that should be 
fairly small

gpz

Have you thought about the IPL/ROM replacement? It has been done by
tmbinc, I'm working on my own solution atm, which will use a flash ram
instead of a datel memory card, combined with a CPLD. 

Does anyone have a good idea about some 'hello world' code? It should be
extremely small to fit in the CPLD.

Rob

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Hi there,

I finally bought a Gamecube so that I can actually contribute some code
fixes and so on. Since I am in the UK where the PSO and BB Adapter
really did not take off I would like to know where I can cheaply obtain
these items or if anyone is selling bits.

Someone suggested a German chain which I could pick some up from since I
will be in Germany in a few weeks so can you tell me again now please?

Jon.

http://www.gc-linux.org/docs/yagcd/chap2.html#sec2.4.1
http://www.gc-linux.org/docs/yagcd/chap5.html#sec5.7

Not an IDE drive, but an 8 bit wide custom bus. Don't doubt though, that
with a CPLD and a kernel driver a harddisk can be attached, at least in
PIO mode. I think in the External interfaces patent I read it also does
DMA. It can be used IRQ driven for sure, at least there is the DVD Cover
interrupt which you could use, but i think there is an interrupt source
for the DVD data transport as well.

Rob

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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 2:26 AM
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Hi there,

**** Hard disk ****

Does anyone know what the interface is for the drive in the GC? I know
they use a custom drive firmware but that is NOT my question :-).

As I do not yet all of the bits I cannot test a theory that it is some
modified IDE botch which could have a 2.5" drive added to it.

Please can someone confirm.

Jon.

On Monday 01 March 2004 02:23, Jon Masters wrote:
> Someone suggested a German chain which I could pick some up from since I
> will be in Germany in a few weeks so can you tell me again now please?

i picked up the bba (aswell as my AR and the datel keyboard) in a
warehouse called "karstadt" - the only one in my city that still has
a gamecube lineup at all....might be the same in other cities.

gpz

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Hi there,

**** Hard disk ****

Does anyone know what the interface is for the drive in the GC? I know
they use a custom drive firmware but that is NOT my question :-).

As I do not yet all of the bits I cannot test a theory that it is some
modified IDE botch which could have a 2.5" drive added to it.

Please can someone confirm.

Jon.
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Hi there,

I finally bought a Gamecube so that I can actually contribute some code
fixes and so on. Since I am in the UK where the PSO and BB Adapter
really did not take off I would like to know where I can cheaply obtain
these items or if anyone is selling bits.

Someone suggested a German chain which I could pick some up from since I
will be in Germany in a few weeks so can you tell me again now please?

Jon.
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Michael Steil wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm very busy with other stuff at the moment, but I could have a look at 
> GC Linux again today. The network driver seems to be perfect now (thanks 
> hampti!), we can mount root from NFS - so I could boot a full Mandrake 
> 9.1 and run some full-blown glibc apps like mpg123 and mplayer.
> 

[Yet another silly question]
I went on the website, download zImage.dol, but then what should I do, I 
cannot ssh or telnet my GC (the boot is ok).
Could someone kind point me in the right direction

Thanks,
Mathieu

Hi!

I'm very busy with other stuff at the moment, but I could have a look 
at GC Linux again today. The network driver seems to be perfect now 
(thanks hampti!), we can mount root from NFS - so I could boot a full 
Mandrake 9.1 and run some full-blown glibc apps like mpg123 and 
mplayer.

*** Audio driver ***

Both apps had the same problem with kirin's audio driver: Every chunk 
of PCM data seems to be repeated  about 3 times, i.e. the speed is too 
slow, but the pitch is correct. Can anyone else contribute their 
experiences?
Looks somehow as if the interrupt handler is too slow and the audio 
unit just keeps repeating, until the new data is ready. Just a guess. 
Any idea?

*** MPlayer ***

MPlayer works quite nicely (640x384 DivX at 100% speed with (buggy) 
sound disabled; sound enabled would slow everything down, because video 
would sync to too-slow sound), but the colours are off. MPlayer seems 
to try to encode the pixels itself and doesn't really use the 
framebuffer driver. Workarounds?

*** X Window ***

X Window also works quite nicely. I have nothing to move the mouse 
pointer with, and the colours are wrong as well, but a remote Gnome 
session worked very well. See new screenshot on website (about to be 
uploaded).

*** Keyboard driver ***

I have both the Tototek and the Datel keyboard adapter now, and I 
experienced that it could even get worse. The Tototek adapter has some 
very weird mappings, and quite some bad bugs - the Datel adapter 
doesn't seem to have any bugs, but quite some dead keys, and very very 
strange and Tototek-incompatible mappings. I'll investigate this 
further. We might need a kernel command line to specify what adapter 
the driver is supposed to support - fixing it with keyboard layouts 
afterwards is probably no good idea, because we would need two versions 
of every local layout then, for Tototek and Datel.

*** Other apps ***

I tried running VICE (C64 Emulator) on the GameCube's X Window session, 
but it froze the machine. I also tried to compile MPlayer directly on 
the GC, and GCC aborted. Most probably this is all due to out of memory 
problems. I had no swap. I find it really interesting that DivX/MPEG4 
works so well with only 24 MB, because I remember DivX 4 always said it 
needed at least a 64 MB machine to play movies...

By the way, Steve_- is working on a small Debian-based NFS base system 
that will be available for everyone.

   Michael

Hello everybody !

Excuse me for the last submitted gcpad driver, i was finally able to 
test it and i saw that it didn't work :(...
This new one was successfully tested :) (based on Pong by DesktopMan) ! 
It was submitted to the SF Patches Tracking System...

I decided to do not support analogical axis and buttons (triggers) 
because of the lack of a SI driver (with a 'timer' the latency was too 
important). But don't be afraid, digital buttons (even L and R) and axis 
are supported, this is enough to use with j2mdev (so, to have both a 
mouse and a joystick on your GameCube :D).

Regards, Free The Cube.

PS : You can find pre-compiled tool-chains (host:i686-linux, 
target:powerpc-linux) here (only avaible this week-end) : 
http://www710.univ-lyon1.fr/~c-vinc02/toolchains-x86-gc-linux.tar.bz2
features :
    - Binutils-2.14
    - GCC-3.2.2
    - GLIBC-2.3.2 with linux-threads add-on
If you want to rebuilt yours, here comes a [french] post about it : 
http://gc-hack.webheberg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3475#3475

On 16.02.2004, at 13:29, Hans K. Rosbach wrote:
> Anyways..  I think another aproach might be possible..
> The question is: Is the 16mb destined for swap usage using MTD drivers?
> (I guess this it 2x8MB flash cards that you put in the front of the GC,
> right?)

You mean the ARAM? It's just RAM chips; we can write block device 
drivers for it and use it like a hard disk or anything.

> If so, I assume it is MTD capable.
> That means you can format them with the JFFS2 filesystem.
> And then you can put swap-FILES (2.6 supports that i think) on them.
>
> JFFS2 is basically a read+write filesystem optimized for usage on small
> flash chips, and also incorporates compression.

It does?

> You need to enable MTD, then the JFFS2 selection appears under
> "Misc filesystems" in the 2.6 kernel config.
>
> I hope this leads somewhere.. =)

Sounds interesting, but somehow I doubt JFFS2 can properly compress a 
swap file.

Porting compressed swap to 2.6 would be the best for all.

   Michael

On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:42:18PM +0100, Free The Cube wrote:
> Hello everybody !
> 
> Today, i bought PSO and successfully booted the linux kernel on my 
> Gamecube, but something is still missing : a root file system ;) !
> Can you tell me, please, how to bundle the Linux kernel and the initrd 
> (such as the linux-alpha demo) ?

You'll need a compressed ramdisk image:
arch/ppc/boot/images/ramdisk.image.gz

With that in place, `make zImage.initrd' will leave you with
arch/ppc/boot/images/zImage.initrd, from which you may now
generate a .dol.

> About a NFS root file system, i suppose that this is as describes into 
> linux/Documentation/nfsroot.txt, isn't it ?

Correct. You might also be interested in the NFS-HOWTO over at tldp.org

> Regards, Free The Cube.
> 

> Sounds *very* interesting, but the kernel patches seem to be for 2.4
> only, and we're based on 2.6. :-/

That's a bummer..  I wonder how much work it would be to port
the compressed swap part to 2.6.

Anyways..  I think another aproach might be possible..
The question is: Is the 16mb destined for swap usage using MTD drivers?
(I guess this it 2x8MB flash cards that you put in the front of the GC,
right?)

If so, I assume it is MTD capable.
That means you can format them with the JFFS2 filesystem.
And then you can put swap-FILES (2.6 supports that i think) on them.

JFFS2 is basically a read+write filesystem optimized for usage on small
flash chips, and also incorporates compression.

You need to enable MTD, then the JFFS2 selection appears under
"Misc filesystems" in the 2.6 kernel config.

I hope this leads somewhere.. =)

-=Dead2=-

Sounds *very* interesting, but the kernel patches seem to be for 2.4 
only, and we're based on 2.6. :-/

   Michael

On 16.02.2004, at 11:26, Dead2 wrote:

> Just wanted to point out the possibility of running
> "linuxcompressed". First and foremost this would
> benefit us by making the swap compressed.
> Secondly it can also compress parts of the main
> memory.
>
> It is developed fro the i386 platform, but is also
> reported to be working (at least swap part) fully
> on other archs. It does not contain much i386
> specific code, that's just what the developers use.
>
> On the GC, if this could take our 16MB swap to
> effectively be 20-50MB (depending on contents),
> it would surely mean a world of difference.
>
> The memory part is a bit different. You have to
> specify how much of the memory is to be
> compressed. 50/50 is usually a good start.
> So, 12MB compressed ram would probably be
> able to contain 20-30MB too, without beeing
> overly optimistic. (24-48 is what I'm thinking)
>
> So, in effect this would enable us to atleast double
> the memory load on the GC..  And that is a very
> nice increase on such a memory starved box.
>
> http://linuxcompressed.sourceforge.net/
>
> -=Dead2=-
>
>
>
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Just wanted to point out the possibility of running
"linuxcompressed". First and foremost this would
benefit us by making the swap compressed.
Secondly it can also compress parts of the main
memory.

It is developed fro the i386 platform, but is also
reported to be working (at least swap part) fully
on other archs. It does not contain much i386
specific code, that's just what the developers use.

On the GC, if this could take our 16MB swap to
effectively be 20-50MB (depending on contents),
it would surely mean a world of difference.

The memory part is a bit different. You have to
specify how much of the memory is to be
compressed. 50/50 is usually a good start.
So, 12MB compressed ram would probably be
able to contain 20-30MB too, without beeing
overly optimistic. (24-48 is what I'm thinking)

So, in effect this would enable us to atleast double
the memory load on the GC..  And that is a very
nice increase on such a memory starved box.

http://linuxcompressed.sourceforge.net/

-=Dead2=-

I'm wondering what you're all of your settings are for getting this to 
work? I've tried it with PSOLoad v1.1 on OS X 10.3.2 and can't get it 
past receiving a query to PSOLoad. The GC times out after this.

If you could kind of give me some hints on how you got it at least to 
the  point you did, I would appreciate it.

Regards,
Matt

Totakeke wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I'm having a problem running GC-Linux. I couldn't find the right place 
> to post this. There isn't a forum for it, so I'm posting it here. I 
> apologize.
> 
> Whenever I run GC-Linux, the screen turns green, mixed with pink and 
> yellow, and black. It just freezes and stays like that. I'm using a U.S. 
> Gamecube and a U.S. Broadband Adapter, and I am on Mac OS X 10.3.2, 
> using PSOLoad.
> 
> I'm excited about this project, and I can't wait to see KDE work. Would 
> it be possible at all for the developers to release some sort of tool 
> kit so we could port existing programs to GC-Linux? And I was 
> thinking... how would we be able to have a virtual hard drive for it? 
> Would it be possible to somehow insert our own files into the .dol file, 
> or compile it ourselves so we can insert our own files into it? That 
> would be neat. :)
> 
> Arigato!
> -Totakeke
> 
> 
> 
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Hello everybody !

Today, i bought PSO and successfully booted the linux kernel on my 
Gamecube, but something is still missing : a root file system ;) !
Can you tell me, please, how to bundle the Linux kernel and the initrd 
(such as the linux-alpha demo) ?

About a NFS root file system, i suppose that this is as describes into 
linux/Documentation/nfsroot.txt, isn't it ?

Regards, Free The Cube.

On 15.02.2004, at 03:55, DCGrendel wrote:
> Whoa there! KDE? on 24MB ram? dont think so. Unless of course you mean 
> use the GC as a X Terminal for a machine running KDE.

As soon as we have a swap driver for ARAM, we would have ~ 40 MB. I 
don't think native KDE is impossible. Just not too fast. Gnome should 
be better.

> Even then, X over 10MB with 16/24bpp is kinda painful, you'd have to 
> use TightVNC, LBX, or something else to get decent speeds.

I don't agree. I have been working with X over a 10 MBit connection for 
a long time. Using the GIMP is no good idea, but everything else is 
fine. Just don't use themes that use too many colours.

   Michael

On 15.02.2004, at 01:18, Totakeke wrote:
> Whenever I run GC-Linux, the screen turns green, mixed with pink and 
> yellow, and black. It just freezes and stays like that. I'm using a 
> U.S. Gamecube and a U.S. Broadband Adapter, and I am on Mac OS X 
> 10.3.2, using PSOLoad.

Looks like the kernel crashes before the framebuffer driver is up. 
Please ask someone in the CVS to compile a kernel with gamecube-console 
(tmbinc's old code) instead of the framebuffer, and you should see some 
output - then we see where it hangs.

> I'm excited about this project, and I can't wait to see KDE work. 
> Would it be possible at all for the developers to release some sort of 
> tool kit so we could port existing programs to GC-Linux? And I was 
> thinking... how would we be able to have a virtual hard drive for it? 
> Would it be possible to somehow insert our own files into the .dol 
> file, or compile it ourselves so we can insert our own files into it? 
> That would be neat. :)

Yes, we can ship data with the DOL file, i.e. a complete root 
filesystem. But we only have 24 MB or RAM, plus possibly 16 MB of swap 
= 40 MB of RAM.

   Michael

Totakeke wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm having a problem running GC-Linux. I couldn't find the right place 
> to post this. There isn't a forum for it, so I'm posting it here. I 
> apologize.

This is the right place more or less, so no need for apologies.

> Whenever I run GC-Linux, the screen turns green, mixed with pink and 
> yellow, and black. It just freezes and stays like that. I'm using a 
> U.S. Gamecube and a U.S. Broadband Adapter, and I am on Mac OS X 
> 10.3.2, using PSOLoad.

Sounds like you GC is switching into PAL or PAL-60 and your tv can't 
take the PAL color sync. Someone else can probably elaborate on this 
further.

> I'm excited about this project, and I can't wait to see KDE work. 
> Would it be possible at all for the developers to release some sort of 
> tool kit so we could port existing programs to GC-Linux? And I was 
> thinking... how would we be able to have a virtual hard drive for it? 
> Would it be possible to somehow insert our own files into the .dol 
> file, or compile it ourselves so we can insert our own files into it? 
> That would be neat. :)

Whoa there! KDE? on 24MB ram? dont think so. Unless of course you mean 
use the GC as a X Terminal for a machine running KDE.
Even then, X over 10MB with 16/24bpp is kinda painful, you'd have to use 
TightVNC, LBX, or something else to get decent speeds.

> Arigato!
> -Totakeke

-DCG

Hello!

I'm having a problem running GC-Linux. I couldn't find the right place 
to post this. There isn't a forum for it, so I'm posting it here. I 
apologize.

Whenever I run GC-Linux, the screen turns green, mixed with pink and 
yellow, and black. It just freezes and stays like that. I'm using a U.S. 
Gamecube and a U.S. Broadband Adapter, and I am on Mac OS X 10.3.2, 
using PSOLoad.

I'm excited about this project, and I can't wait to see KDE work. Would 
it be possible at all for the developers to release some sort of tool 
kit so we could port existing programs to GC-Linux? And I was 
thinking... how would we be able to have a virtual hard drive for it? 
Would it be possible to somehow insert our own files into the .dol file, 
or compile it ourselves so we can insert our own files into it? That 
would be neat. :)

Arigato!
-Totakeke

 > 255.255.255.0 is not your subnet, it is the netmask

Duh. I can't believe I said that =o) My network is also on the 192.168.0 
subnet. But I have noticed that I get an error on boot saying it can't 
find rc.S which if the initial init script for BSD init scripts. Is this 
actually supposed to run? My guess is that telnet is launched at some 
point during this init script and I'm somehow missing it. I did try the 
recent build version but I had a kernel panic on boot.

Darrell

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