* Paste and Encrypted Node register new attributes in the attribtue registry correctly
* Bug fix for Attribute Registry
* Button on/off removed from Filter Toolbar
* Standard filter conditions "No Filtering" and "Selected Nodes" added to Filter Toolbar
* Pattern: Duplicate, create from nodes, intersection of patterns from nodes.
* Bug fix im Browser Toolbar: the browsed file was loaded twice, if its name was typed in the combobox
* Attribute View Type is saved in a Mind Map document
* Changes from Henning Dierks (thanks!): node selection and text field background colors adjusted.
* NodeView has got a new multi component capable layout manager
* Export of local hyperlinks to XHTML/HTML with image corrected.
* VariableSizeCardLayout implemented for Preference Dialog
* Automatic layout preference design bugs fixed
* Merged with Attribute Version
Test it, enjoy it, report bugs.
Regards, Dimitri
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I have just been playing around with it and have a few comments.
I love the new edge style. This is exactly perfect for my needs. The the nodes are still linear but the edges emerge from the root node in a logical way, moving further toward the centre as more are added.
But I think people will want to be able to move a node over the root without it also having to be really 'high up'. The purpose of this is to create the most compact maps possible, say, for an exam revision map.
Perhaps one bug (Windows 2000, Java 1.5.0 build 1.5.0_06-b05).
I created a node from the root and then quite a few siblings with no text. I then went down the nodes and added a bit of random text to each. Each time I pressed return the map moved a little off centre to the left (the nodes were on the right).
Overall though, it look great. I will report more bugs if I find them.
Thanks,
Ryan
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Can you put in a switch to allow me to use this "from the center, all around the central node" format? With the way you're doing the lines from the center, it would look even better now:
I'm thinking the attribute listboxes would be best if they were lined up flush with the inner edge (flush left or right depending on which side of the map they're on) of the node they're assigned to.
Seth
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I use the Control Arrow keys, rather than the mouse, to switch from map to map. I can do this in 0.8.1_Beta3. Even between MindMap and Browse Mode loaded maps. A real help!
However, I cannot do this in 0.8.1_Beta4. Instead, when the map is in MindMap mode, there is an error popup "The root node can't be added to a new parent." When I load maps in Browse mode I cannot change to another map. There is no error however. Simply no activity at all.
Nelson
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Hi Nelson -- I don't think this is a bug, it's a feature! CTRL-Left Arrow now "Promotes" a node, whilst CTRL-Right-Arrow demotes a node. (This is a very useful feature, and really improves FreeMind as an outliner).
To move back and forwards between maps, use Alt-Left arrow or Alt-Right-Arrow.
(If you want to go back to the old shortcut, you can always alter it on the Tools/Preferences menu).
James
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You are correct that Alt-Left and Alt-Right arrow keys behave as the Control-Left and Control-Right arrow keys used to behave. Thank you. I did not see in the Tools/Preferences where I could reset the behavior. The Navigation Menu still shows the Control-arrow keys for moving right and left. So it appears there's still some "naming" work to be done. Fair enough as it is a beta release.
I do find it disconcerting that the previous function of the control-arrow keys has been changed somewhat capriciously I feel. If the Alt-arrow keys can be used for navigation now; why not make them the promotion keys and leave the previous control-arrow key function alone?
I like the looks though. Much more pleasant and busy. Very nice. Thanks to all.
- Nelson
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I wanted to second the idea that the Alt keys should be used. I don't think it makes sense to completely change the shortcuts if there are alternates that make sense too.
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I had a problem with the sh file. It was in dos format. You may have to change the file format. I used vim to do it. I just looked up format or dos or something in vim, and there was an easy one step command to do it.
Also, I think there is a library required by this new version that was not previously required. I belive it is libant or something like that. You can find the name in the sh file.
Good luck and hope some of this helps. You will like this new version. The developers did an excellent job.
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Thanks for the hint. I did something a little different that seems to work too. I overwrote the freemind.sh file for the current version with the freemind.sh from the previous (working) version, and I am able to start it up now. Couldn't find anything about libant though. Well, time to go test this new release.
Cheers.
- dodo.
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I'm really impressed by the functionality of 0.8.1 beta 4 - especially the attribute part of it.
Within the attribute part one additional feature would make my day:
1. It would be nice if the 'attribute manangement' could be enhanced by an additional column with a tick-box which caters for a 'unique single value'. Uniqueness should span the entire map.
2. When editing an attribute value there are no values to choose from and the entered value should be unique for this specific attribute within the entire map. There is no need for a drop-down selection in this case.
Is this something somebody else would need or is this too exotic??
Cheers - Jo
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The round version could be improved upon by (a) letting the lines arive straightly to the center, rather than landing at the center with a bound curve, and (b) arranging the nodes around center so that they form a circle or an ellipse rather a bow.
Even better, the layout could be modeled on what Juan Pedro has delivered in his FreeMind flash browser.
At any rate, I consider current 0.8.1 beta 4 very good looking, and basically without any need of further improvement.
Best regards, Dan
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Could you see about compiling a jar that has the interface from 0_8_0_round?
Any kind of arrangement that's radial and elliptical around the center will do what I need, which is to have mindmaps that are non-linear and therefore useful for representing brainstorming sessions. The code in 0_8_0_round does this very well, as my examples show.
Daniel seems to think he's talking about something different from my suggestion. I would say as long as that's the case, forget about adding the switch in the main program, and I'll just keep waiting for him.
However, if there's no radial arrangment available, I'm going to need to stay with 0_8_0 with your custom jar for that version, if I want to use FreeMind anywhere that I use mindmapping to facilitate brainstorming, either in groups or by myself, through the radial graphical layout.
As I said, with the way you're doing the lines from the center in 0.8.1 beta 4, it would look even better. I would suggest that you can have all the lines just come from the absolute center, though, rather than having them come from points gradually closer to the center depending on how many main branches you have. But I'm not asking for that.
If you can, just leave the radial arrangement out of the main program; I am now only asking if you can provide a separate jar that has the 0_8_0_round arrangement. I do hope you can find the time to do this.
Seth
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First question, is there a current 'known bugs' list for the Beta 4? The SourceForge bug list looks sparse for recent entries.
Second question, I would of course like to try Beta 4 for day-to-day work, and was just wondering how many people have experienced crashes, data-loss bugs, program quirks, etc. Realistically I'd like to check the known bugs list (hence the first question) and make a correct decision on migrating over to the beta.
thanx, -=$>Dave<$=-
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Hi Dave,
Just a reminder on migrating to the beta... if you include attributes in a file, that file will not open on 0.8.0, the current release... well, it will open, but it will show no data, and consider itself a new file.
If you're working on your own... my experience (pretty much daily) shows it as stable enough. If you're sharing files with users using 0.8.0, you have to be careful not to use attributes.
darryl
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>>Just a reminder on migrating to the beta... if you include attributes in a file, that file will not open on 0.8.0, the current release... well, it will open, but it will show no data, and consider itself a new file.
Thank you darryl! I experienced those symptoms, and it was driving me nuts! I could see into the .mm file, and it looked OK, but a new file kept opening. So, I went on vacation for 10 days!
Thanks again,
--Rich
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I've been trying to use the "Assign Attributes" dialog. While it does allow you to select from the list of Attributes, it does not change the values that correspond with the Attribute.
Not only that, if you do choose to assign your Attribute with the values from the previous Attribute, it writes that new value as the only existing value for the Attribute.
OK, I just tried something... my second Attribute did not have any values, so the dialog simply wrote the ones from the previous Attribute in. This wouldn't be so problematic if you could choose no value, but it forces you to choose one of the previous attribute's values, unless you had already created a blank value.
sorry, that may be a bit convoluted. let me know if you need a bit more clarification.
darryl
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The next test version with number 0.8.0 beta 4 can be downloaded from
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/dimitri_testversions/0_8_1
Here is an incomplete list of the new features:
Changes made in FreeMind 0.8.1 Beta 4
* Paste and Encrypted Node register new attributes in the attribtue registry correctly
* Bug fix for Attribute Registry
* Button on/off removed from Filter Toolbar
* Standard filter conditions "No Filtering" and "Selected Nodes" added to Filter Toolbar
* Pattern: Duplicate, create from nodes, intersection of patterns from nodes.
* Bug fix im Browser Toolbar: the browsed file was loaded twice, if its name was typed in the combobox
* Attribute View Type is saved in a Mind Map document
* Changes from Henning Dierks (thanks!): node selection and text field background colors adjusted.
* NodeView has got a new multi component capable layout manager
* Export of local hyperlinks to XHTML/HTML with image corrected.
* VariableSizeCardLayout implemented for Preference Dialog
* Automatic layout preference design bugs fixed
* Merged with Attribute Version
Test it, enjoy it, report bugs.
Regards, Dimitri
Hi,
I have just been playing around with it and have a few comments.
I love the new edge style. This is exactly perfect for my needs. The the nodes are still linear but the edges emerge from the root node in a logical way, moving further toward the centre as more are added.
But I think people will want to be able to move a node over the root without it also having to be really 'high up'. The purpose of this is to create the most compact maps possible, say, for an exam revision map.
Perhaps one bug (Windows 2000, Java 1.5.0 build 1.5.0_06-b05).
I created a node from the root and then quite a few siblings with no text. I then went down the nodes and added a bit of random text to each. Each time I pressed return the map moved a little off centre to the left (the nodes were on the right).
Overall though, it look great. I will report more bugs if I find them.
Thanks,
Ryan
Hello Dmitri!
Can you put in a switch to allow me to use this "from the center, all around the central node" format? With the way you're doing the lines from the center, it would look even better now:
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/dimitri_testversions/0_8_0_round/
Seth
wow! the round thingie is b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l...
in a sci-fi strategy (Overmind of StarCraft) sorta way... :\
I second what Seth said.
> wow! the round thingie is b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l...
>
> in a sci-fi strategy (Overmind of StarCraft)
> sorta way... :\
>
> I second what Seth said.
:-)
I guess you looked at the image Dmitri has there. Here are three better examples:
ftp://RealMeasures.dyndns.org/RadialMap1.png
ftp://RealMeasures.dyndns.org/RadialMap2.png
ftp://RealMeasures.dyndns.org/RadialMap3.png
Seth
I'm thinking the attribute listboxes would be best if they were lined up flush with the inner edge (flush left or right depending on which side of the map they're on) of the node they're assigned to.
Seth
Probable bug/regression:
I use the Control Arrow keys, rather than the mouse, to switch from map to map. I can do this in 0.8.1_Beta3. Even between MindMap and Browse Mode loaded maps. A real help!
However, I cannot do this in 0.8.1_Beta4. Instead, when the map is in MindMap mode, there is an error popup "The root node can't be added to a new parent." When I load maps in Browse mode I cannot change to another map. There is no error however. Simply no activity at all.
Nelson
Hi Nelson -- I don't think this is a bug, it's a feature! CTRL-Left Arrow now "Promotes" a node, whilst CTRL-Right-Arrow demotes a node. (This is a very useful feature, and really improves FreeMind as an outliner).
To move back and forwards between maps, use Alt-Left arrow or Alt-Right-Arrow.
(If you want to go back to the old shortcut, you can always alter it on the Tools/Preferences menu).
James
James,
You are correct that Alt-Left and Alt-Right arrow keys behave as the Control-Left and Control-Right arrow keys used to behave. Thank you. I did not see in the Tools/Preferences where I could reset the behavior. The Navigation Menu still shows the Control-arrow keys for moving right and left. So it appears there's still some "naming" work to be done. Fair enough as it is a beta release.
I do find it disconcerting that the previous function of the control-arrow keys has been changed somewhat capriciously I feel. If the Alt-arrow keys can be used for navigation now; why not make them the promotion keys and leave the previous control-arrow key function alone?
I like the looks though. Much more pleasant and busy. Very nice. Thanks to all.
- Nelson
I wanted to second the idea that the Alt keys should be used. I don't think it makes sense to completely change the shortcuts if there are alternates that make sense too.
I get the following error when I try to run this beta version on my linux machine.
'/freemind.sh: line 11: syntax error near unexpected token `{
'/freemind.sh: line 11: `_debug() {
I have not had any problems running the previous beta release (0.8.1 beta 3) downloaded from here:
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/testversions/0_8_1_beta3/freemind-bin-max-0_8_1_beta3.zip
What am I missing here? Could someone point me in the right direction?
cheers.
- dodo.
I had a problem with the sh file. It was in dos format. You may have to change the file format. I used vim to do it. I just looked up format or dos or something in vim, and there was an easy one step command to do it.
Also, I think there is a library required by this new version that was not previously required. I belive it is libant or something like that. You can find the name in the sh file.
Good luck and hope some of this helps. You will like this new version. The developers did an excellent job.
Thanks for the hint. I did something a little different that seems to work too. I overwrote the freemind.sh file for the current version with the freemind.sh from the previous (working) version, and I am able to start it up now. Couldn't find anything about libant though. Well, time to go test this new release.
Cheers.
- dodo.
Your welcome. Us users should help each other out. The developers contribute enough. Hope you enjoy it.
I'm really impressed by the functionality of 0.8.1 beta 4 - especially the attribute part of it.
Within the attribute part one additional feature would make my day:
1. It would be nice if the 'attribute manangement' could be enhanced by an additional column with a tick-box which caters for a 'unique single value'. Uniqueness should span the entire map.
2. When editing an attribute value there are no values to choose from and the entered value should be unique for this specific attribute within the entire map. There is no need for a drop-down selection in this case.
Is this something somebody else would need or is this too exotic??
Cheers - Jo
Hi, I think that the current layout of 0.8.1. beta 4 looks much better than
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/dimitri_testversions/0_8_0_round/roundFreeMind.png
The round version could be improved upon by (a) letting the lines arive straightly to the center, rather than landing at the center with a bound curve, and (b) arranging the nodes around center so that they form a circle or an ellipse rather a bow.
Even better, the layout could be modeled on what Juan Pedro has delivered in his FreeMind flash browser.
At any rate, I consider current 0.8.1 beta 4 very good looking, and basically without any need of further improvement.
Best regards, Dan
Dmitri:
Could you see about compiling a jar that has the interface from 0_8_0_round?
Any kind of arrangement that's radial and elliptical around the center will do what I need, which is to have mindmaps that are non-linear and therefore useful for representing brainstorming sessions. The code in 0_8_0_round does this very well, as my examples show.
Daniel seems to think he's talking about something different from my suggestion. I would say as long as that's the case, forget about adding the switch in the main program, and I'll just keep waiting for him.
However, if there's no radial arrangment available, I'm going to need to stay with 0_8_0 with your custom jar for that version, if I want to use FreeMind anywhere that I use mindmapping to facilitate brainstorming, either in groups or by myself, through the radial graphical layout.
As I said, with the way you're doing the lines from the center in 0.8.1 beta 4, it would look even better. I would suggest that you can have all the lines just come from the absolute center, though, rather than having them come from points gradually closer to the center depending on how many main branches you have. But I'm not asking for that.
If you can, just leave the radial arrangement out of the main program; I am now only asking if you can provide a separate jar that has the 0_8_0_round arrangement. I do hope you can find the time to do this.
Seth
First question, is there a current 'known bugs' list for the Beta 4? The SourceForge bug list looks sparse for recent entries.
Second question, I would of course like to try Beta 4 for day-to-day work, and was just wondering how many people have experienced crashes, data-loss bugs, program quirks, etc. Realistically I'd like to check the known bugs list (hence the first question) and make a correct decision on migrating over to the beta.
thanx, -=$>Dave<$=-
Hi Dave,
Just a reminder on migrating to the beta... if you include attributes in a file, that file will not open on 0.8.0, the current release... well, it will open, but it will show no data, and consider itself a new file.
If you're working on your own... my experience (pretty much daily) shows it as stable enough. If you're sharing files with users using 0.8.0, you have to be careful not to use attributes.
darryl
From: Rich
>>Just a reminder on migrating to the beta... if you include attributes in a file, that file will not open on 0.8.0, the current release... well, it will open, but it will show no data, and consider itself a new file.
Thank you darryl! I experienced those symptoms, and it was driving me nuts! I could see into the .mm file, and it looked OK, but a new file kept opening. So, I went on vacation for 10 days!
Thanks again,
--Rich
I would like to say a big THANK YOU for adding a scrollbar for the icons. It was frustrating to work on a 1024x768 screen.
L
You should try it on 800*600!
Hi Dmitri
I've been trying to use the "Assign Attributes" dialog. While it does allow you to select from the list of Attributes, it does not change the values that correspond with the Attribute.
Not only that, if you do choose to assign your Attribute with the values from the previous Attribute, it writes that new value as the only existing value for the Attribute.
OK, I just tried something... my second Attribute did not have any values, so the dialog simply wrote the ones from the previous Attribute in. This wouldn't be so problematic if you could choose no value, but it forces you to choose one of the previous attribute's values, unless you had already created a blank value.
sorry, that may be a bit convoluted. let me know if you need a bit more clarification.
darryl
Is there any way to optimize the width of multiple Attribute/Value tables at once?
darryl
The keyboard shortcut for node color is still nonfunctional on linux. Is this bug on the agenda for the final 0.8.1 release?
- dodo.