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Re: [Freecol-developers] Mods and methods of boosting a slow start

[D B. <d_b...@ya...>]

 Hi Jonas,
Not sure myself, so if none of the devs have got back to you then I recommend you drop by the FreeCol channel on the Colonization discord as main dev Stian and a few modders are very active there and will be able to help as I think I've seen Stian discuss the possibility of stories, missions & achievements in the past. :)Join the Sid Meier's Colonization Games Discord Server!


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Blake
    On Monday, 8 July 2024 at 06:01:19 am ACST, Jonas Stumph Stevnsvig <jo...@st...> wrote:  
 
 Greetings Freecol Devs, and congratulations on a very polished looking 1.2.0 release.


I have had an opportunity to binge freecol on a couple of different PCs, since I found myself forced to rest. Audiobooks and Freecol is a good combination.

I have a question regarding the mod system. I found myself thinking that some sort of helt to get a lead on your european counterparts sould be an interesting twist - e.g. a  mission system where a mission could be :"1000g bonus for being first to  discover 5 tribes" or "first to unearth 5 lost city rumours", or maybe an investment mod:  seeking investors in your home country that demand (e.g. a minimum annual number of furs from year 15xx tp  year 15yy in exchance for providing two pioneers and some tools early on...)

My question is this: could this be achieved with the current mod system? or is it too extensive? I wouldn't want submit changes like these as PRs to the main code.

Best regards

Jonas Stevnsvig
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Re: [Freecol-developers] Mods and methods of boosting a slow start

[Lone_Wolf <lon...@kl...>]

On 07-07-2024 22:14, Jonas Stumph Stevnsvig wrote:
> Greetings Freecol Devs, and congratulations on a very polished looking 
> 1.2.0 release.
>
>
> I have had an opportunity to binge freecol on a couple of different 
> PCs, since I found myself forced to rest. Audiobooks and Freecol is a 
> good combination.
>
> I have a question regarding the mod system. I found myself thinking 
> that some sort of helt to get a lead on your european counterparts 
> sould be an interesting twist - e.g. a  mission system where a mission 
> could be :"1000g bonus for being first to  discover 5 tribes" or 
> "first to unearth 5 lost city rumours", or maybe an investment mod:  
> seeking investors in your home country that demand (e.g. a minimum 
> annual number of furs from year 15xx tp  year 15yy in exchance for 
> providing two pioneers and some tools early on...)
>
> My question is this: could this be achieved with the current mod 
> system? or is it too extensive? I wouldn't want submit changes like 
> these as PRs to the main code.
>
> Best regards
>
> Jonas Stevnsvig
>
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Hi,

there is a spec for events, but the 2 existing events (declare 
independece & spanish succession ) both need code to work.

Also the AI would need to be taught how to deal with these new options.


https://www.freecol.org/roadmap.html does state

 > Campaign and scenario mode with a tutorial being the first campaign.

Maybe your idea could be implemented using the techniques used for that ?


You may have noticed this list doesn't see much activity.

https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/discussion/ and especially 
https://discord.gg/pZsGD5Bu are better options.


Lone_Wolf

P.S. i'm not a developer, just a contributor.

[Freecol-developers] Mods and methods of boosting a slow start

[Jonas S. S. <jo...@st...>]

Greetings Freecol Devs, and congratulations on a very polished looking 1.2.0 release.


I have had an opportunity to binge freecol on a couple of different PCs, since I found myself forced to rest. Audiobooks and Freecol is a good combination.

I have a question regarding the mod system. I found myself thinking that some sort of helt to get a lead on your european counterparts sould be an interesting twist - e.g. a mission system where a mission could be :"1000g bonus for being first to discover 5 tribes" or "first to unearth 5 lost city rumours", or maybe an investment mod: seeking investors in your home country that demand (e.g. a minimum annual number of furs from year 15xx tp year 15yy in exchance for providing two pioneers and some tools early on...)

My question is this: could this be achieved with the current mod system? or is it too extensive? I wouldn't want submit changes like these as PRs to the main code.

Best regards

Jonas Stevnsvig

[Freecol-developers] FreeCol 1.2.0 released

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi everyone,

FreeCol 1.2.0 has now been released. Please report any problems you might encounter.

Read more at:
https://www.freecol.org/news/freecol-1.2.0-released.html


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen

Re: [Freecol-developers] Problems with the sourceforge repository

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi Niklas,


I have checked the logs for the freecol-bot (the bot that automatically synchronizes between SF.net and github.com) ... and there seem to have been some problems with SF.net between September, 7th and October, 21st.


The issue seem to have be fixed now, but I have no idea what caused it. Please do tell if you encounter any more issue.



Best wishes,

Stian

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From: Niklas Laxström <nik...@gm...>
Sent: 15 October 2023 17:55
To: freecol-developers
Subject: [Freecol-developers] Problems with the sourceforge repository

Since a couple of days ago, translation synchronization with the SourceForge git repository is frequently erroring out with this error:
fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /p/freecol/git

Sometimes it works though, so the issue is intermittent. I don't see any status issues on sourceforge.net<http://sourceforge.net>, so maybe it's specific to the freecol repository. Would anyone have any ideas what is going on?

  -Niklas

[Freecol-developers] Problems with the sourceforge repository

[Niklas L. <nik...@gm...>]

Since a couple of days ago, translation synchronization with the
SourceForge git repository is frequently erroring out with this error:
fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported:
/p/freecol/git

Sometimes it works though, so the issue is intermittent. I don't see any
status issues on sourceforge.net, so maybe it's specific to the freecol
repository. Would anyone have any ideas what is going on?

  -Niklas

Re: [Freecol-developers] adding to existing bug tickets on SF broken with 500 error

[Lone_Wolf <lon...@kl...>]

On 27-09-2023 19:11, Lone_Wolf via Freecol-developers wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> While attempting to add something to an existing bugticket I 
> encountered a 500 internal server error, Testing with multiple 
> browsers and OSes  gave the same result .
>
>
> I filed https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/25055/ with SF 
> support to hopefully get this solved.
>
>
> Lone_Wolf
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The issue has been solved, editing tickets is possible again.


I even was able to approve some older additions to bug tickets that were 
'waiting for moderation' but never were visible for me until now.


LW

[Freecol-developers] adding to existing bug tickets on SF broken with 500 error

[Lone_Wolf <lon...@kl...>]

Hi,


While attempting to add something to an existing bugticket I encountered 
a 500 internal server error, Testing with multiple browsers and OSes  
gave the same result .


I filed https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/25055/ with SF 
support to hopefully get this solved.


Lone_Wolf

Re: [Freecol-developers] Issue with run the game

[Lone_Wolf <lon...@kl...>]

On 07-08-2023 11:05, Lone_Wolf via Freecol-developers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if it is mentioned somewhere, but from freecol 1..0.0 on 
> the used java version changed to java 11 .
>
> Looking for java.target.version in 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/git/ci/master/tree/build.xml 
> confirms it still is java 11 .
>
> Install java 11 and test.
>
> Lone_Wolf


Ooops,according to the changelog freecol 0.12.0 was the first version 
that required java 11 so it's been a requirement for over a year.

LW

Re: [Freecol-developers] Issue with run the game

[Lone_Wolf <lon...@kl...>]

On 26-07-2023 18:13, Seweryn wrote:
> I'm not sure is this the right place for asking about my problem, but 
> i will try because it's not a problem in gameplay. Ok so, i installed 
> Freecol 1.1.0 with java, i have a Java version 8 and JDK version 20 
> installed on my desktop too, and i can't run the game. It appears for 
> a moment on task manager, and then disappears. I also tried to repair 
> files, and run .exe file as Administator and nothing helped. I checked 
> if maybe my antivirus blocked some files but nothing like that 
> happend. What i am supposed to do?
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Hi,

I don't know if it is mentioned somewhere, but from freecol 1..0.0 on 
the used java version changed to java 11 .

Looking for java.target.version in 
https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/git/ci/master/tree/build.xml confirms 
it still is java 11 .

Install java 11 and test.

Lone_Wolf

[Freecol-developers] Issue with run the game

[Seweryn <sse...@gm...>]

I'm not sure is this the right place for asking about my problem, but i
will try because it's not a problem in gameplay. Ok so, i installed Freecol
1.1.0 with java, i have a Java version 8 and JDK version 20 installed on my
desktop too, and i can't run the game. It appears for a moment on task
manager, and then disappears. I also tried to repair files, and run .exe
file as Administator and nothing helped. I checked if maybe my antivirus
blocked some files but nothing like that happend. What i am supposed to do?

Re: [Freecol-developers] Multiple Translation Files for FreeCol

[Niklas L. <nik...@gm...>]

to 25. toukok. 2023 klo 20.14 Stian Grenborgen (
sti...@st...) kirjoitti:

> There are two translation files per source:
>
>
>    1. The file "FreeColMessages.properties" that only contains
>    translation keys that are unique. This is used for translating stuff that
>    should always be non-overriding, like the name of a specific map. All these
>    strings have translation keys that are prefixed with the ID of the
>    mod/ruleset/scenario/map.
>    2. The file "ModMessages.properties" that may contain strings that
>    override translations from the main game.
>
>
>
> Would you prefer to handle these files separately (easier for us) ... or
> should we just merge them all into one file as part of our build script? In
> the latter case, we would add a prefix on the translation keys in
> "ModMessages.properties" -- for example: "override.mod.MODID.".
>

You can keep them separate. We have a flexible system to prefix messages to
avoid name conflicts and to group multiple files together.

More info if interested:
Docs:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Group_configuration
Example:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/translatewiki/+/a6af2d264f4ab2cf49e88e549a329eb5a9bc61ba/groups/Ajapaik/Ajapaik.yaml

  -Niklas

[Freecol-developers] Multiple Translation Files for FreeCol

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi Niklas,


There was a discussion a few years back about supporting multiple translation files ... and I do want to continue this discussion:

> [Niklas: ]
> From our (translatewiki.net) side, we are happy to support mods/maps
> etc. with their own FreeColMessages.properties files. We just need to
> be informed about them and make sure we have permissions to add
> translations to git. Can mods override strings from the master game
> strings?

Yes, mods can override strings from the master game. The same is true for alternate rulesets, savegames/scenarios and maps.

There are two translation files per source:


  1.  The file "FreeColMessages.properties" that only contains translation keys that are unique. This is used for translating stuff that should always be non-overriding, like the name of a specific map. All these strings have translation keys that are prefixed with the ID of the mod/ruleset/scenario/map.
  2.  The file "ModMessages.properties" that may contain strings that override translations from the main game.


Would you prefer to handle these files separately (easier for us) ... or should we just merge them all into one file as part of our build script? In the latter case, we would add a prefix on the translation keys in "ModMessages.properties" -- for example: "override.mod.MODID.".


> Relatedly, is SF git still the correct place to send translation
> updates, or should they go to GitHub now?

Yes, SF is still the correct place to send translations.

(Commits that are added to the "sf-auto-merge" branch on Github are automatically sent to SF, but this should only be used for stuff like pull-requests and not automated commits.)


Best wishes,
Stian


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From: Niklas Laxström <nik...@gm...>
Sent: 28 April 2020 15:03
To: Michael T. Pope
Cc: FreeCol Developers
Subject: Re: [Freecol-developers] not dead yet

ti 28. huhtik. 2020 klo 13.39 Michael T. Pope (mp...@co...) kirjoitti:
> > 2. As for Rafael's changes and storing Author and description in the map file...
>
> The issue here is that we can not store the description in the map
> iteself because it needs to be translated.  The author is fine.
> Currently we effectively do neither.  Rafaels patch does both.  If we
> can get the author into the map, a bunch of the stuff you have been
> wrangling in the strings file can go from:
>
> map.Africa=Large Africa by J.Bloggs
>
> to
>
> map.Africa=Large Africa by %author%
>
> which does not help your work much now, but is more maintainable.
> There would have to be code support of course to pull in the %author%,
> but that is straightforward.
>
> I have a note on the todo list to think more about the whole
> translation setup, but that is post-release.  We already have extra
> standalone FreeColMessages.properties files in the mods, which are
> currently not getting translated AFAICT.  If we can fix that, we can
> probably handle having similar files in the .fsm map bundles.  That
> would probably be a better design than having the above map.<foo>
> entries in the master strings file.  The major concern with any change
> to how we do translations is to not mess with the volunteer
> translators.  Keeping things easy for them is mandatory.

>From our (translatewiki.net) side, we are happy to support mods/maps
etc. with their own FreeColMessages.properties files. We just need to
be informed about them and make sure we have permissions to add
translations to git. Can mods override strings from the master game
strings?

Relatedly, is SF git still the correct place to send translation
updates, or should they go to GitHub now?

  -Niklas


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Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol 1.0.0 Released

[Michael T. P. <mp...@co...>]

On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 23:32:44 +0000
Stian Grenborgen <sti...@st...> wrote:
> FreeCol 1.0.0 has now been released.

Congratulations and thanks to all involved.

(Hope to be back to the bug list soon:-)

Cheers,
Mike Pope

[Freecol-developers] FreeCol 1.0.0 Released

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi everyone,

FreeCol 1.0.0 has now been released. Please report any problems you might encounter.

Read more at:
https://www.freecol.org/news/freecol-1.0.0-released.html


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen

[Freecol-developers] FreeCol 1.0 release imminent

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi everyone,

We've finally reached the set release date for FreeCol 1.0, and there does not seem to be any release blockers.

I'm working on preparing the news / release notes:

https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/git/ci/f862818de9ba40b85c06e7952157a7c4868bdb9a/tree/www.freecol.org/_posts/2023-01-02-freecol-1.0.0-released.html
https://github.com/FreeCol/freecol/blob/f862818de9ba40b85c06e7952157a7c4868bdb9a/www.freecol.org/_posts/2023-01-02-freecol-1.0.0-released.html

Please do tell if you have any suggestions on how to improve the text/presentation.


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen

Re: [Freecol-developers] Pull-Requests needing review

[D B. <d_b...@ya...>]

 I very much like both of these. I'd suggested the Bartolome change in a ticket years ago so it's great to see someone agreeing and making it happen! :)
    On Saturday, 29 October 2022 at 06:42:15 am ACDT, David Lewis <hig...@gm...> wrote:  
 
 I've submitted a pair of pull requests that I'd love to get a review/feedback on.
   
   - The ability for FreeColonists to gain experience from indoor production: https://github.com/FreeCol/freecol/pull/129
   - This PR changes how Native Converts are converted to Free Colonists after Bartolome is recruited: https://github.com/FreeCol/freecol/pull/130

- David
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[Freecol-developers] Pull-Requests needing review

[David L. <hig...@gm...>]

I've submitted a pair of pull requests that I'd love to get a
review/feedback on.


   1. The ability for FreeColonists to gain experience from indoor
   production: https://github.com/FreeCol/freecol/pull/129
   2. This PR changes how Native Converts are converted to Free Colonists
   after Bartolome is recruited: https://github.com/FreeCol/freecol/pull/130


- David

Re: [Freecol-developers] Discord Group for FreeCol Devs

[D B. <d_b...@ya...>]

 David's invite expired after a few days so here's one that won't:
https://discord.gg/4XP4S9yfJ8

If anyone from the dev team joins, let me know who you are and I'll give you the dev team title which gives you access to the private FreeCol chat channel.
Hope to see more of the old guard (eg Mike & Winter) join as there's been lots of great dev chat going on there between Stian, David, Caleb and fans resulting in votes and decisions on various issues.
Regards
Blake
    On Saturday, 24 September 2022 at 07:54:28 am ACST, David Lewis <hig...@gm...> wrote:  
 
 Hey ya'll just a reminder that we have a Discord group for Freecol and Freecol devs:
https://discord.gg/pZsGD5Bu

Good place to go if you're interested in more frequent Freecol development discussions.
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Re: [Freecol-developers] Fixing issues with production on tiles

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi!

I have been looking into the correct tile production formula, and have arrived at this result after verifying a lot of different outputs:

normal production =
  (
    base production
    + additive expert production
    + additive resource production
    + additive expert resource production
  ) 
  * multiplier resource
  * multiplier expert
  
  
tile improvement production =
  additive tile improvements (plow, road, minor river, major river)  
  * multiplier expert
   
colony efficiency bonus =
  MAX(rebel bonus number, (
    rebel bonus number
    * multiplier resource
    * IF(expert at producing goodstype, 2, 1)
  ))

total production =
  normal production
  + tile improvement production
  + colony efficiency bonus


Note that the colony efficiency bonus gets multiplied even for expert types that only have additive bonuses (Expert Farmer).

The current production numbers in FreeCol deviates rather heavily from this formula, and I have built an acceptance test based on the above formula and verified a few hundred production variations in the original game as well.


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen



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From: Stian Grenborgen
Sent: 03 September 2022 10:51
    
Hi again,

I have found that getPotentialProduction/getMaximumPotential for Tile/BuildingType produces different results than the actual production (ColonyTile/Building) even when the results should be the same.

When looking into the code I have noticed all sorts of issues with modifiers not being applied. Some of these issues only affect methods used by the AI, while other issues affect the actual production. For example, an expert farmer never gets the additional  (expert) bonus from the grain resource.

I think the best solution for these problems is having a separate class for calculating production/consumption -- and that this class gets the list of modifiers for the colony and player as parameters. This way, we can use the same code everywhere (potential,  maximum and actual production) and Tile+ColonyTile+Building+Colony gets simplified.

The main problem with the rewrite is lack of tests for the correct tile production values ... so it would be really helpful if someone would make tables/lists with the correct values for each combination of:
* Tile type
* Resource
* Tile improvements (plow, minor river, major river and/or road)
* Worker type (unattended, petty criminal, indentured servant, colonist, convert, expert)
* Liberty bonuses (-2, -1, 0, +1, +2)

That's lots of combinations and numbers ... but only having a complete set for one resource (grain) would help immensely. Please do tell if you can help make these tables/lists :-)


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen    

Re: [Freecol-developers] Simple mods as options

[Michael T. P. <mp...@co...>]

On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:46:42 +0000
Stian Grenborgen <sti...@st...> wrote:
> I have noticed that some of the game/client options could have been implemented using a mod ... and some of the mods (like convertUpgrade) seem more suitable for an option.
> 
> Perhaps we should make a SpecificationChangeOption with a specification as a child element? The option could be displayed as a checkbox for enabling the change.
> 
> Another possible solution would be having an option called AlternativeModOption where the player could choose from a dropdown list of mods. Mods like this would be hidden from the normal mod list. This could be used for functionality like choosing between "Default map controls", "Small Map Controls" and "Compact Map Controls".
> 
> Would a change like this make stuff easier to find/understand ... or do you think it might make it unnecessarily complex?

I am not seeing a big win here, other than (apparently) we have useful
mods[1] that could have better visibility.  There have been a few whinges
that we have too many options so I am hesitant to endorse opening up
a whole new category:-).

Cheers,
Mike Pope

[1] IIRC the Casas mod was a mod because:
- someone wanted to play a "classic Col1 but with obvious bugs like Casas
  fixed" game, but did not want all the extras in the freecol-ruleset
- the unit type change code was pretty new/volatile at the time so it was
  less likely to cause general bugs if it started as a mod
...so notwithstanding my above reservations, by now it is probably a good
candidate to graduate to an option.

[Freecol-developers] Simple mods as options

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi everyone,

I have noticed that some of the game/client options could have been implemented using a mod ... and some of the mods (like convertUpgrade) seem more suitable for an option.

Perhaps we should make a SpecificationChangeOption with a specification as a child element? The option could be displayed as a checkbox for enabling the change.

Another possible solution would be having an option called AlternativeModOption where the player could choose from a dropdown list of mods. Mods like this would be hidden from the normal mod list. This could be used for functionality like choosing between "Default map controls", "Small Map Controls" and "Compact Map Controls".

Would a change like this make stuff easier to find/understand ... or do you think it might make it unnecessarily complex?


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen

[Freecol-developers] Github integration

[Stian G. <sti...@st...>]

Hi everyone,

I have added functionality to allow Github pull requests (PRs) to be merged directly. The default branch in Github (and the default for PR merges) is now called "sf-auto-merge" ... and anything pushed to this branch is automatically pushed to SourceForge (unless there are conflicts).

The master branch on Github directly mirrors the one in SourceForge.

Conflicts on push to SourceForge can be solved entirely on Github by merging the master branch into sf-auto-merge.


Best wishes,
Stian Grenborgen

Re: [Freecol-developers] Bartolome De las Casas Bonus isn't persistent

[David L. <hig...@gm...>]

My mistake. 🙈 I should know, I try to include a README with every mod.

David

On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 03:39 Lone_Wolf via Freecol-developers <
fre...@li...> wrote:

> On 25-09-2022 05:42, David Lewis wrote:
> > I think I wrote that mod a few years back?
> >
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/git/ci/master/tree/data/mods/convertUpgrade/
>
> nope, looks like mike wrote it.
>
> LW
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Re: [Freecol-developers] Bartolome De las Casas Bonus isn't persistent

[Lone_Wolf <lon...@kl...>]

On 25-09-2022 05:42, David Lewis wrote:
> I think I wrote that mod a few years back?
>
https://sourceforge.net/p/freecol/git/ci/master/tree/data/mods/convertUpgrade/

nope, looks like mike wrote it.

LW