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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-12-01 19:32:55
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I had this happen with FoF, but haven't checked FoFr. I had thought it was due to the original feed perhaps accidentally posting it twice. I'm also not sure how magpie determines if a post gets a new postdate (for example, the author edits the post), how it knows it's not a new article, but an update. Should it delete the old one, keep it, update it? And what about any tags, read/unread, etc? Since Benjy is still working on keyboard stuff, do we want to freeze where we are and begin testing/bug fixing? Andy On 12/1/05, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > I'm seeing a problem where sometimes a duplicate item is added to the > database. The value for link is idential for both entries in fr_items. = I > commited a changed that I thought might fix it but I had another occuranc= e > yesterday. Has anyone else seen this? I also had it happen with FoF, so > It's not new bug, but it is annoying and I would like to try and finally > fix it. > > > -- > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2005-12-01 18:56:45
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I'm seeing a problem where sometimes a duplicate item is added to the database. The value for link is idential for both entries in fr_items. = I commited a changed that I thought might fix it but I had another occuranc= e yesterday. Has anyone else seen this? I also had it happen with FoF, so It's not new bug, but it is annoying and I would like to try and finally fix it. --=20 Kevin |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-30 09:13:18
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> I like it. There must be a way to streamline the js code. At least > consolidate it into one js file. Pulling in 10 different files is a bit > much. I didn't notice the problem Andrew had where the shortcuts didn't > work with many items. Although, I only tested on a feed with 135 items. Okay, so the two quick comments in response to this and what Andy said, are: 1. I suspect that that "todo rem" alert that Andy mentioned was because you tried to use the javascript before the page was finished loading. This is obviously undesirable, and I had an idea of a way to work around this. 2. The javascript is indeed excessive, because it's *all* of refeed's javascript. I could strip this down a *lot*, but didn't because I kind of need to do it on a function by function basis to get rid of things that for sure aren't used. Refeed's code, while reusable, was a little excessively heavy. And the third thing was yes, other keyboard shortcut stuff will be implemented. This was just the basic version that did the basic navigation features, and I was going to add that other stuff once we figured out what that other stuff is. So I can and will invest a bunch of time in cutting that javascript down / streamlining it, but for a functional prototype, I can't argue with basically writing no new code. I'm very good at getting *rid* of code and making it more efficient: I had a net negative codeline contribution at my previous job. =) --Benjy |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2005-11-30 05:26:48
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Andrew Turner (nilspace) wrote: >Good start, but a couple of things: > >It worked on a page with 2 items, but then on a longer page, a >notification message comes down: > >TODO REM no listed things on this page > >Also, pages seemed to be loading rather slowly, I checked out the new >code and there is now 60K of javascript files that are getting >included in every page load. This seems kind of hefty and is obviously >a lot of code for a browser to churn through. > >I had thought kbd nav would also include selecting different feeds, >etc. I tend to use Page Up and Page Down for scrolling through pages. >I read this page: >http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html > >Which discusses compliant means for doing scrolling methods. Combined >with "Access Keys", it's possible to do: >-- ><script type="text/javascript"> >function fr_scroll(inc) >{ > var x,y; > > if (self.pageYOffset) // all except Explorer > { > x = self.pageXOffset; > y = self.pageYOffset; > } > else if (document.documentElement && >document.documentElement.scrollTop) // Explorer 6 Strict > { > x = document.documentElement.scrollLeft; > y = document.documentElement.scrollTop; > } > else if (document.body) // all other Explorers > { > x = document.body.scrollLeft; > y = document.body.scrollTop; > } > scrollTo(0,y+inc); >} ></script> ><a href="javascript:scroll(0,0)" accesskey="h">Top</a> ><a href="javascript:fr_scroll(-200)" accesskey="j">Up</a> ><a href="javascript:fr_scroll(200)" accesskey="k">Down</a> >-- > >I think the marking is *very* good idea - though I couldn't test it on >a large number of feeds. How does it know to jump to the next feed >item to be read? I guess it can get the X,Y page location of the next >check-box and then scrollTo(x,y) that location. > >In the end, I'm not sure what all the ReFeeds js stuff is including, >but I think it's too heavy handed for just up/down and marking stuff. >I think we'll be better served by writing up our own JS code that's >smaller. The above code does scroll up/down (albeit with ctrl-j, >ctrl-k) and I would think the mark would be straight-forward? > >Andy > > > I like it. There must be a way to streamline the js code. At least consolidate it into one js file. Pulling in 10 different files is a bit much. I didn't notice the problem Andrew had where the shortcuts didn't work with many items. Although, I only tested on a feed with 135 items. |
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From: Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...> - 2005-11-30 02:49:11
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Good start, but a couple of things: It worked on a page with 2 items, but then on a longer page, a notification message comes down: TODO REM no listed things on this page Also, pages seemed to be loading rather slowly, I checked out the new code and there is now 60K of javascript files that are getting included in every page load. This seems kind of hefty and is obviously a lot of code for a browser to churn through. I had thought kbd nav would also include selecting different feeds, etc. I tend to use Page Up and Page Down for scrolling through pages. I read this page: http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html Which discusses compliant means for doing scrolling methods. Combined with "Access Keys", it's possible to do: -- <script type=3D"text/javascript"> function fr_scroll(inc) { var x,y; if (self.pageYOffset) // all except Explorer { x =3D self.pageXOffset; y =3D self.pageYOffset; } else if (document.documentElement && document.documentElement.scrollTop) // Explorer 6 Strict { x =3D document.documentElement.scrollLeft; y =3D document.documentElement.scrollTop; } else if (document.body) // all other Explorers { x =3D document.body.scrollLeft; y =3D document.body.scrollTop; } scrollTo(0,y+inc); } </script> <a href=3D"javascript:scroll(0,0)" accesskey=3D"h">Top</a> <a href=3D"javascript:fr_scroll(-200)" accesskey=3D"j">Up</a> <a href=3D"javascript:fr_scroll(200)" accesskey=3D"k">Down</a> -- I think the marking is *very* good idea - though I couldn't test it on a large number of feeds. How does it know to jump to the next feed item to be read? I guess it can get the X,Y page location of the next check-box and then scrollTo(x,y) that location. In the end, I'm not sure what all the ReFeeds js stuff is including, but I think it's too heavy handed for just up/down and marking stuff. I think we'll be better served by writing up our own JS code that's smaller. The above code does scroll up/down (albeit with ctrl-j, ctrl-k) and I would think the mark would be straight-forward? Andy On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > So if that code looks good to y'all, I'll see about merging it onto HEAD > tonight (like, after midnight PST). If you have other comments / > suggestions / bugs, let me know? Otherwise, it's in branch la la land, > so can just be thrown out if that's what we want. =3D) > > --Benjy > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:20:52PM -0800, Benjamin Stewart wrote: > > Keyboard shortcuts have been checked in on my branch, between these two > > tags: > > > > cvs diff -u -r PRE_INITIAL_KS -r PRE_CR_INITIAL_KS | less > > > > uh, for some reason I'm not seeing my changes in cvsweb yet... that > > above diff isn't showing the new javascript files I added (which are > > copied from refeed, with just a few changes you'll be able to see by > > comparing the initial versions of those files with the second versions)= . > > > > To check out my branch, do this: > > > > cvs co -d fofks -r bsii_keyboardshortcuts_dev fofredux > > > > it'll check out into fofks/ > > > > Feel free to comment. > > > > Oh, shortcuts and javascript is only on the view page, and j is down, k > > is up, and m is mark + down. More shortcuts can be added / discussed, > > but for now I was just getting the code to you. > > > > --Benjy > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:11:54PM -0500, Andrew Turner wrote: > > > I would say check in your changes with the version that has > > > categories, since that's what you have done. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > > > > So here's a concern: currently my keyboard changes were implemente= d > > > > against a version that *did* have categories. Should I target them= to a > > > > version without categories? I'm not sure I'll have time to do *tha= t* > > > > if I'm going to check in this afternoon, and I have plans tonight. > > > > > > > > --Benjy > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:40:53PM -0700, Kevin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shor= tcuts > > > > > > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 releas= e. We > > > > > > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on= the > > > > > > FoFRedux SF page. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > > > > > > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the= DB > > > > > > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). > > > > > > > > > > http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ > > > > > > > > > > Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us low= ely > > > > > developers don't have permission to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep throug= h log files > > > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that ma= kes > > > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. 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DOWNLOAD SPL= UNK! > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > > > Fof...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Turner > > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner > > > Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-30 01:41:03
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So if that code looks good to y'all, I'll see about merging it onto HEAD tonight (like, after midnight PST). If you have other comments / suggestions / bugs, let me know? Otherwise, it's in branch la la land, so can just be thrown out if that's what we want. =3D) --Benjy On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:20:52PM -0800, Benjamin Stewart wrote: > Keyboard shortcuts have been checked in on my branch, between these two > tags: >=20 > cvs diff -u -r PRE_INITIAL_KS -r PRE_CR_INITIAL_KS | less >=20 > uh, for some reason I'm not seeing my changes in cvsweb yet... that > above diff isn't showing the new javascript files I added (which are > copied from refeed, with just a few changes you'll be able to see by > comparing the initial versions of those files with the second versions). >=20 > To check out my branch, do this: >=20 > cvs co -d fofks -r bsii_keyboardshortcuts_dev fofredux >=20 > it'll check out into fofks/ >=20 > Feel free to comment. >=20 > Oh, shortcuts and javascript is only on the view page, and j is down, k > is up, and m is mark + down. More shortcuts can be added / discussed, > but for now I was just getting the code to you. >=20 > --Benjy >=20 > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:11:54PM -0500, Andrew Turner wrote: > > I would say check in your changes with the version that has > > categories, since that's what you have done. > >=20 > > Andy > >=20 > >=20 > > On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > > > So here's a concern: currently my keyboard changes were implemented > > > against a version that *did* have categories. Should I target them t= o a > > > version without categories? I'm not sure I'll have time to do *that* > > > if I'm going to check in this afternoon, and I have plans tonight. > > > > > > --Benjy > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:40:53PM -0700, Kevin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortc= uts > > > > > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release.= We > > > > > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on t= he > > > > > FoFRedux SF page. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > > > > > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB > > > > > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). > > > > > > > > http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ > > > > > > > > Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us lowely > > > > developers don't have permission to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through = log files > > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPL= UNK! > > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&op=3Dclick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > > > Fof...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through lo= g files > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUN= K! > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > > Fof...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > > Andrew Turner > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > >=20 > > Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner > > Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-30 01:20:54
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Keyboard shortcuts have been checked in on my branch, between these two tags: cvs diff -u -r PRE_INITIAL_KS -r PRE_CR_INITIAL_KS | less uh, for some reason I'm not seeing my changes in cvsweb yet... that above diff isn't showing the new javascript files I added (which are copied from refeed, with just a few changes you'll be able to see by comparing the initial versions of those files with the second versions). To check out my branch, do this: cvs co -d fofks -r bsii_keyboardshortcuts_dev fofredux it'll check out into fofks/ Feel free to comment. Oh, shortcuts and javascript is only on the view page, and j is down, k is up, and m is mark + down. More shortcuts can be added / discussed, but for now I was just getting the code to you. --Benjy On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:11:54PM -0500, Andrew Turner wrote: > I would say check in your changes with the version that has > categories, since that's what you have done. >=20 > Andy >=20 >=20 > On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > > So here's a concern: currently my keyboard changes were implemented > > against a version that *did* have categories. Should I target them to a > > version without categories? I'm not sure I'll have time to do *that* > > if I'm going to check in this afternoon, and I have plans tonight. > > > > --Benjy > > > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:40:53PM -0700, Kevin wrote: > > > > > > > Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortcuts > > > > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release. We > > > > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on the > > > > FoFRedux SF page. > > > > > > > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > > > > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB > > > > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). > > > > > > http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ > > > > > > Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us lowely > > > developers don't have permission to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through lo= g files > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUN= K! > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&op=3Dclick > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > > Fof...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log = files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > >=20 >=20 > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA >=20 > Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner > Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...> - 2005-11-30 00:01:21
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I don't know if any of you have recently actually checked with del.icio.us but they've been adding some features. One of them goes back to a discussion we had on what is a tag of tags? They have introduced "bundles". Bundles are sets of tags. Anyways, something to think about for the future - if we moved "categories" to be bundles of tags. Andy |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-29 20:27:04
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Well, I didn't say I *believed* the arguments. I one of the arguments was "people knowing you use cvs is a security hole." Sheesh. On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:25:11PM -0500, Andrew Turner wrote: > But there isn't anything in the CVS files that isn't on the CVS page: > > CVS/Root: > :pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/fofredux > > Right? > > On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > > > When you did the checkout - I see you removed the CVS directories. It > > > would seem alright to do an anonymous checkout straight into the demo > > > directory. in the future we can just run a "cvs up" in there for an > > > up-to-date cvs HEAD demo. We can then setup demo directories/installs > > > for various versions as we are showing/testing. > > > > Some people argue those cvs directories are a security risk. It's not > > hard to set up an .htaccess to protect them from being read, regardless > > of your particular take on the security risks. > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner > Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 20:25:29
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But there isn't anything in the CVS files that isn't on the CVS page: CVS/Root: :pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/fofredux Right? On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > > When you did the checkout - I see you removed the CVS directories. It > > would seem alright to do an anonymous checkout straight into the demo > > directory. in the future we can just run a "cvs up" in there for an > > up-to-date cvs HEAD demo. We can then setup demo directories/installs > > for various versions as we are showing/testing. > > Some people argue those cvs directories are a security risk. It's not > hard to set up an .htaccess to protect them from being read, regardless > of your particular take on the security risks. > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-29 20:15:00
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> When you did the checkout - I see you removed the CVS directories. It > would seem alright to do an anonymous checkout straight into the demo > directory. in the future we can just run a "cvs up" in there for an > up-to-date cvs HEAD demo. We can then setup demo directories/installs > for various versions as we are showing/testing. Some people argue those cvs directories are a security risk. It's not hard to set up an .htaccess to protect them from being read, regardless of your particular take on the security risks. |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 20:12:02
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I would say check in your changes with the version that has categories, since that's what you have done. Andy On 11/29/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote: > So here's a concern: currently my keyboard changes were implemented > against a version that *did* have categories. Should I target them to a > version without categories? I'm not sure I'll have time to do *that* > if I'm going to check in this afternoon, and I have plans tonight. > > --Benjy > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:40:53PM -0700, Kevin wrote: > > > > > Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortcuts > > > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release. We > > > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on the > > > FoFRedux SF page. > > > > > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > > > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB > > > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). > > > > http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ > > > > Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us lowely > > developers don't have permission to do so. > > > > > > > > -- > > Kevin > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log = files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&op=3Dclick > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 20:11:10
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hrm, - how did you add the directory? I was trying to do that earlier today, but the permissions on the htdocs directory are dummy:fofredux and I am not a member of the fofredux group for some reason. I already have created the demo db (when I was working on it this morning - trying to setup the same thing). I will modify the settings in the config file for the db and run the install. I can then move the settings to a Read-only MySQL account. When you did the checkout - I see you removed the CVS directories. It would seem alright to do an anonymous checkout straight into the demo directory. in the future we can just run a "cvs up" in there for an up-to-date cvs HEAD demo. We can then setup demo directories/installs for various versions as we are showing/testing. Andy On 11/29/05, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortcuts > > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release. We > > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on the > > FoFRedux SF page. > > > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB > > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). > > http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ > > Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us lowely > developers don't have permission to do so. > > > > -- > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-29 19:48:42
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So here's a concern: currently my keyboard changes were implemented against a version that *did* have categories. Should I target them to a version without categories? I'm not sure I'll have time to do *that* if I'm going to check in this afternoon, and I have plans tonight. --Benjy On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 12:40:53PM -0700, Kevin wrote: >=20 > > Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortcuts > > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release. We > > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on the > > FoFRedux SF page. > > > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB > > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). >=20 > http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ >=20 > Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us lowely > developers don't have permission to do so. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Kevin >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2005-11-29 19:41:14
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> Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortcuts > in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release. We > can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on the > FoFRedux SF page. > > I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at > http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB > (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/demo/ Andrew, will you take care of getting a SF mysql account? Us lowely developers don't have permission to do so. --=20 Kevin |
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From: Benjamin S. <bs...@cr...> - 2005-11-29 17:20:14
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> #1 Let's do a feature freeze real soon and bugfix like crazy for the > release. I'll throw my tag code on a branch and leave it for later. I > haven't seen the keyboard navigation code but it sounds like a really > nice feature to have. It's implemented on my checked out copy, but it's buggy at the moment (the navigation "misses" the entry a lot, and I have to figure out why). I'll check it on a branch this afternoon so you can play with it if you want. Also, I haven't tested it anything but Safari and Firefox yet. --Benjy |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 15:58:43
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Definitely - As Kevin pointed out - let's get the Keyboard shortcuts in, code freeze, test, bug fix and document and do a 0.2 release. We can then announce on the the FoF Forums and put up news/etc. on the FoFRedux SF page. I suggest we put up a "demo" version of FoFRedux at http://fofredux.sf.net with read-only ability for modifying the DB (perhaps via special code hack for the time being). Andy On 11/29/05, Carlos Kozuszko <ck...@gm...> wrote: > Andrew said: > >Of course, we could also encourage users to help in the migrationacross. > > That's a good idea, but I think we should have a beta release before > asking them to participate. Telling them to checkout a cvs version > instead of providing them with a tarball would set a higher entry > barrier for those interested in collaborate with bug reporting tasks. > > Carlos. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA idealistic technocrat Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Carlos K. <ck...@gm...> - 2005-11-29 15:52:38
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Andrew said: >Of course, we could also encourage users to help in the migrationacross. That's a good idea, but I think we should have a beta release before asking them to participate. Telling them to checkout a cvs version instead of providing them with a tarball would set a higher entry barrier for those interested in collaborate with bug reporting tasks. Carlos. |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 15:24:05
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Of course, we could also encourage users to help in the migration across. Gets them involved and trying things out so we're not doing *all* the work. :) Maybe they'll come up with ideas as they're migrating the requests too. Andy On 11/29/05, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > Some of these have been fixed, but not marked as such in the FoF > trackers - does someone want to handle migrating bugs or features? I > can handle the other one (whichever of the 2 is remaining). > > Andy > > On 11/29/05, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > Carlos Kozuszko wrote: > > > > >We don't have to forget the pending bugs and feature requests existing= for fof. > > > > > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D82800&atid=3D567249 > > > > > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D82800&atid=3D567252 > > > > > > > > > > > Good point. I see some bugs/features that should be migrated to FoFr. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log = files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7637&alloc_id=3D16865&op=3Dclick > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > idealistic technocrat > > Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner > Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA idealistic technocrat Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2005-11-29 15:17:40
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Andrew Turner wrote: >I agree Carlos, I think having active development/continuation of FoF >will be a big pull for a lot of users. Fixing of current bugs, etc. in >the FoF SF site, active CVS development, etc. > >So if we want to allow "dual running", then adding columns should be >ok as long as they aren't "necessary" for FoF to pick up on. > >What's the vote for the 0.2 release features? I think there are 2 options: >1) Categories, Search, simplified architecture (less pages), keyboard control >2) Search, arch, tags, encapsulated DB (for switching b/w PSQL and MySQL) > > > #1 Let's do a feature freeze real soon and bugfix like crazy for the release. I'll throw my tag code on a branch and leave it for later. I haven't seen the keyboard navigation code but it sounds like a really nice feature to have. |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 15:15:00
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Some of these have been fixed, but not marked as such in the FoF trackers - does someone want to handle migrating bugs or features? I can handle the other one (whichever of the 2 is remaining). Andy On 11/29/05, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > Carlos Kozuszko wrote: > > >We don't have to forget the pending bugs and feature requests existing f= or fof. > > > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D82800&atid=3D567249 > > > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D82800&atid=3D567252 > > > > > > > Good point. I see some bugs/features that should be migrated to FoFr. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D7637&alloc_id=3D16865&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA idealistic technocrat Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2005-11-29 15:06:18
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Carlos Kozuszko wrote: >We don't have to forget the pending bugs and feature requests existing for fof. > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=82800&atid=567249 > >http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=82800&atid=567252 > > > Good point. I see some bugs/features that should be migrated to FoFr. |
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From: Carlos K. <ck...@gm...> - 2005-11-29 14:15:00
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We don't have to forget the pending bugs and feature requests existing for = fof. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D82800&atid=3D567249 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D82800&atid=3D567252 |
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From: Carlos K. <ck...@gm...> - 2005-11-29 13:22:58
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> I think there are 2 options: > 1) Categories, Search, simplified architecture (less pages), keyboard con= trol > 2) Search, arch, tags, encapsulated DB (for switching b/w PSQL and MySQL) I think we could live without tags and encapsulated in our first release. Vote for 1 too. > ...with the a roadmap for users describing what we are working on and wil= l come out approx when. That brings my attention to the fact that we will need a site for the project in order to communicate news, readmaps, etc. Do you think a wiki would do ? Something like the hibernate.org site would be a nice site to have, although we could settle with a much more simple version. Carlos. |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2005-11-29 12:59:09
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I agree Carlos, I think having active development/continuation of FoF will be a big pull for a lot of users. Fixing of current bugs, etc. in the FoF SF site, active CVS development, etc. So if we want to allow "dual running", then adding columns should be ok as long as they aren't "necessary" for FoF to pick up on. What's the vote for the 0.2 release features? I think there are 2 options: 1) Categories, Search, simplified architecture (less pages), keyboard contr= ol 2) Search, arch, tags, encapsulated DB (for switching b/w PSQL and MySQL) The primary question being - lots of new features now, or updated codebase/support and new features later? I vote for option 1 with the a roadmap for users describing what we are working on and will come out approx when. Getting 0.2 out sooner rather than later lets people know the fork is actually alive and to start checking it out. Andy On 11/29/05, Carlos Kozuszko <ck...@gm...> wrote: > I agree with Benjy, allowing the users run fof and fofredux > simultaneously with the same db and tables, would allow them to choose > more easily. > > I guess that at fofredux installation time, we should only add tables > and keep the original ones unmodified. > > To summarize, what features we want to include in the 0.2 release ? > categories, feeds and search, anything else ? > I order to get to users to migrate to fofredux we'll have to offer a > significant set of new features. Nonetheles, having an active > development team backing up the project is a "feature" strong enough > to convince a lot of people. > > Carlos. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id=16865&opclick > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA idealistic technocrat Photos - http://flickr.com/photos/ajturner Travel - http://highearthorbit.com/projects/location/ |
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