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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-03-28 21:37:42
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Miles Beck wrote: > On 3/28/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) <nil...@us...> wrote: > >> Can someone else confirm the following bug on their RC 0.3 install? >> >> View new items by page. Then click "Previous 50" (or whatever number >> you have). Verify that actually *all* items are displayed, rather than >> just 50. This is easier to see if you set your number of items to be >> viewed at like 10 or less. >> > > I just checked this on my install. When using the link "View New > Items" only 10 items are displayed, but then when I click on the link > "Previous 10" then a whole bunch are displayed. Way more than 10. So I > assume it is showing all of them. > The limit was being changed to 100. So, it's not all, but quite a few more then you wanted. -Kevin |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-03-28 21:36:28
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Andrew Turner (nilspace) wrote: > Can someone else confirm the following bug on their RC 0.3 install? > > View new items by page. Then click "Previous 50" (or whatever number > you have). Verify that actually *all* items are displayed, rather than > just 50. This is easier to see if you set your number of items to be > viewed at like 10 or less. > > Commited change to init.php and moved RC-0_3 tag. Please confirm it's fixed. -Kevin |
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From: Miles B. <mil...@gm...> - 2006-03-28 18:48:05
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On 3/28/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) <nil...@us...> wrote= : > Can someone else confirm the following bug on their RC 0.3 install? > > View new items by page. Then click "Previous 50" (or whatever number > you have). Verify that actually *all* items are displayed, rather than > just 50. This is easier to see if you set your number of items to be > viewed at like 10 or less. I just checked this on my install. When using the link "View New Items" only 10 items are displayed, but then when I click on the link "Previous 10" then a whole bunch are displayed. Way more than 10. So I assume it is showing all of them. |
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From: Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...> - 2006-03-28 18:16:58
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Can someone else confirm the following bug on their RC 0.3 install? View new items by page. Then click "Previous 50" (or whatever number you have). Verify that actually *all* items are displayed, rather than just 50. This is easier to see if you set your number of items to be viewed at like 10 or less. -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-28 00:31:26
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Hey Guys, sorry about the "lull" in the 0.3 testing. I'm busy finishing up a paper for a conference this summer. I have 0.3 running in test, but haven't gotten to "push it" yet. How about you Miles? Any problems with 0.3 Release Candidate? I guess the release was holding on anyone pointing out big bugs. I'll give until the end of this week for any bug filings and fixes then probaby have the 0.3 release for early next week (and associated release party!). We have another dev, Sebastian, who is finally going to add proper mapping support to FoFRedux. This is something I've wanted to do for awhile, but been too busy. I think this will be another push in 0.4. (yay more devs) Andrew On 3/27/06, Broken Kode <kha...@gm...> wrote: > Hehe, actually I was on a mini vacation :). Just got back yesterday. So > yeah BRING ON V0.4 :). > > Miles Beck wrote: > > Everyone on vacation? > > > > Andrew last emailed on March 8th asking the below. Sounds like there > > is no objection as no one has replied to his email. What do we need to > > do now to get 0.3 released? > > > > I'm pushing for 0.3 to be released in hopes that work can begin in > > earnest for 0.4, ;). > > > > > >> Excellent - Can't wait for the 0.4 release (though I know there will > >> be a lot of work for myself, kevin and Katie to get there ;) > >> > >> What about the rest of the dev team, what do you think about the > >> current release being 0.3? > >> > >> Andrew > >> > > > > -Miles > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting lang= uage > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live we= bcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territ= ory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua= ge > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc= ast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor= y! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Broken K. <kha...@gm...> - 2006-03-27 22:06:00
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Hehe, actually I was on a mini vacation :). Just got back yesterday. So yeah BRING ON V0.4 :). Miles Beck wrote: > Everyone on vacation? > > Andrew last emailed on March 8th asking the below. Sounds like there > is no objection as no one has replied to his email. What do we need to > do now to get 0.3 released? > > I'm pushing for 0.3 to be released in hopes that work can begin in > earnest for 0.4, ;). > > >> Excellent - Can't wait for the 0.4 release (though I know there will >> be a lot of work for myself, kevin and Katie to get there ;) >> >> What about the rest of the dev team, what do you think about the >> current release being 0.3? >> >> Andrew >> > > -Miles > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > |
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From: Miles B. <mil...@gm...> - 2006-03-27 21:59:36
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Everyone on vacation? Andrew last emailed on March 8th asking the below. Sounds like there is no objection as no one has replied to his email. What do we need to do now to get 0.3 released? I'm pushing for 0.3 to be released in hopes that work can begin in earnest for 0.4, ;). >Excellent - Can't wait for the 0.4 release (though I know there will >be a lot of work for myself, kevin and Katie to get there ;) > >What about the rest of the dev team, what do you think about the >current release being 0.3? > >Andrew -Miles |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-24 03:14:35
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On 3/23/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > Andrew Turner wrote: > > I have the current bugs in RC 0.3: > > > > * Warning: gmmktime() expects parameter 3 to be long, string given in > > magpierss/rss_utils.inc on line 35 > > - which shows up when any feed is updated. > > > > > Which version of php are you using? I did make changes to that file, > but it runs clean on my install. (5.0.x) PHP 4.4.2 > > > * Warning: Unable to detect unique link for item, please report the > > bug to the FoFR Project in init.php on line 1598 > > > > - which shows up from the feed: > > http://ourworld.harveyworld.com.au/jobs/default.cfm > > > > > That feed has no URLs to uniquely identify the items. Is it a defect if > we've never supported horribly broken feeds such as that? To fix this, > we will have to add a hash column to the items table to uniquely > identify items. Not something I'd consider slipping in during a release > cycle. > Good point - I didn't necessarily think this needed to be fixed now, but was worth looking at. We had discussed "fall-back" uniqueness tests. > > * the "Previous/Next 10" (or however many) links do not abide by the > > "howmany" and are actually malformed (several params without actual > > values). > > Can anyone else confirm this bug? > > > > -- > > Andrew Turner > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting lang= uage > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live we= bcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territ= ory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua= ge > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc= ast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor= y! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D110944&bid=3D241720&dat= =3D121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-03-24 00:46:18
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Andrew Turner wrote: > I have the current bugs in RC 0.3: > > * Warning: gmmktime() expects parameter 3 to be long, string given in > magpierss/rss_utils.inc on line 35 > - which shows up when any feed is updated. > > Which version of php are you using? I did make changes to that file, but it runs clean on my install. (5.0.x) > * Warning: Unable to detect unique link for item, please report the > bug to the FoFR Project in init.php on line 1598 > > - which shows up from the feed: > http://ourworld.harveyworld.com.au/jobs/default.cfm > > That feed has no URLs to uniquely identify the items. Is it a defect if we've never supported horribly broken feeds such as that? To fix this, we will have to add a hash column to the items table to uniquely identify items. Not something I'd consider slipping in during a release cycle. > * the "Previous/Next 10" (or however many) links do not abide by the > "howmany" and are actually malformed (several params without actual > values). > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-22 16:40:50
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I have the current bugs in RC 0.3: * Warning: gmmktime() expects parameter 3 to be long, string given in magpierss/rss_utils.inc on line 35 - which shows up when any feed is updated. * Warning: Unable to detect unique link for item, please report the bug to the FoFR Project in init.php on line 1598 - which shows up from the feed: http://ourworld.harveyworld.com.au/jobs/default.cfm * the "Previous/Next 10" (or however many) links do not abide by the "howmany" and are actually malformed (several params without actual values). -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-21 23:58:30
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There are several options which I've used: 1) Simple CSS which scales well - FoFRedux looks great on the Nokia 770, and passable on cellphones web browsers (non-WAP) 2) Device-specific CSS - not all devices properly know they're small, so the handheld css isn't always used 3) JS Detect and CSS Switch 4) Seperate portal entry - this may be the 'best' option as the pages are dynamically created, so maintaining a simplified output, perhaps even the current style, for portable devices may the choice to use (e.g. http://fofredux/mobile) On 3/21/06, Broken Kode <kha...@gm...> wrote: > Regarding how it scales down, that's a pretty interesting one, the short > answer is not really. I've only ever seen my site on a Blackberry once > and the css wasn't working but the markup was pretty good and it was > completely readable. The question is do you make a css file specifically > for mobile devices? If so what's the 'standard' resolution you can play > around with? If anyone's got some links etc I'll do my homework and come > back with a battle plan, just need a nudge in the right direction :). > > Andrew Turner wrote: > > >Correct, MooFX is written with Prototype, so gives you that nice $F > >grabbing. I believe it's pared down. So MooFX is 3kb vs. the Prototype > >(30k) plus Scriptaculous, et al. > > > >http://moofx.mad4milk.net/ > > > >Quick Guide to Prototype: > >http://www.particletree.com/features/quick-guide-to-prototype/ > > > >Well, I guess this brings up the question - Khaled, any thoughts on > >how your interface scales to mobile devices? > > > >Andrew > > > >On 3/21/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > >>The secret to prototype is simply $F. It makes it so simple to grab a = DOM > >>object and begin to play with it. I've found prototype itself to be > >>relatively lightweight, since when you are doing ajax stuff, you really= do > >>need the whole mix of stuff it provides. If i remember correctly, MooF= X is > >>built on prototype, and is more for javascript effects...similar to wha= t you > >>would find from yahoo!, rico, etc. prototype simply provides the frame= work > >>to make the rest possible. > >>In short, if we want the functionality, but not the fancy interface > >>effects...you just need prototype. I'm sure theres alternatives...but > >>everything i've done at work and home has started there, so that's the > >>extent of my experience. > >> > >> > >> > >>On 3/21/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Good point about the keyboard implementation and other benefits. We > >>>should do a quick review/analysis of the available libraries before > >>>choosing one. > >>> > >>>Andrew > >>> > >>>On 3/21/06, Kevin < ke...@dr...> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>>Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface an= d > >>>>>will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure w= e > >>>>>keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) > >>>>> > >>>>>I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be > >>>>>very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much > >>>>>lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, w= e > >>>>>just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done > >>>>>that before as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few > >>>>reviews. It's benefits are not limited to Ajax. I think the event > >>>>handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also. The > >>>>event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort > >>>>finishing up the keyboard shortcut work. > >>>> > >>>>-Kevin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Kevin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > >>>> > >>>> > >>language > >> > >> > >>>>that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > >>>> > >>>> > >>webcast > >> > >> > >>>>and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > >>>> > >>>> > >>territory! > >> > >> > >>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > >> > >> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Fofredux-devel mailing list > >>>>Fof...@li... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > >> > >> > >>>-- > >>>Andrew Turner > >>>ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > >>>http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------- > >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > >>> > >>> > >>language > >> > >> > >>>that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > >>> > >>> > >>webcast > >> > >> > >>>and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > >>> > >>> > >>territory! > >> > >> > >>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > >> > >> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Fofredux-devel mailing list > >>>Fof...@li... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >Andrew Turner > >ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > >http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langu= age > >that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live web= cast > >and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territo= ry! > >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > >_______________________________________________ > >Fofredux-devel mailing list > >Fof...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > > > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Broken K. <kha...@gm...> - 2006-03-21 23:23:49
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Regarding how it scales down, that's a pretty interesting one, the short answer is not really. I've only ever seen my site on a Blackberry once and the css wasn't working but the markup was pretty good and it was completely readable. The question is do you make a css file specifically for mobile devices? If so what's the 'standard' resolution you can play around with? If anyone's got some links etc I'll do my homework and come back with a battle plan, just need a nudge in the right direction :). Andrew Turner wrote: >Correct, MooFX is written with Prototype, so gives you that nice $F >grabbing. I believe it's pared down. So MooFX is 3kb vs. the Prototype >(30k) plus Scriptaculous, et al. > >http://moofx.mad4milk.net/ > >Quick Guide to Prototype: >http://www.particletree.com/features/quick-guide-to-prototype/ > >Well, I guess this brings up the question - Khaled, any thoughts on >how your interface scales to mobile devices? > >Andrew > >On 3/21/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > >>The secret to prototype is simply $F. It makes it so simple to grab a DOM >>object and begin to play with it. I've found prototype itself to be >>relatively lightweight, since when you are doing ajax stuff, you really do >>need the whole mix of stuff it provides. If i remember correctly, MooFX is >>built on prototype, and is more for javascript effects...similar to what you >>would find from yahoo!, rico, etc. prototype simply provides the framework >>to make the rest possible. >>In short, if we want the functionality, but not the fancy interface >>effects...you just need prototype. I'm sure theres alternatives...but >>everything i've done at work and home has started there, so that's the >>extent of my experience. >> >> >> >>On 3/21/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: >> >> >>>Good point about the keyboard implementation and other benefits. We >>>should do a quick review/analysis of the available libraries before >>>choosing one. >>> >>>Andrew >>> >>>On 3/21/06, Kevin < ke...@dr...> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface and >>>>>will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure we >>>>>keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) >>>>> >>>>>I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be >>>>>very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much >>>>>lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, we >>>>>just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done >>>>>that before as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few >>>>reviews. It's benefits are not limited to Ajax. I think the event >>>>handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also. The >>>>event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort >>>>finishing up the keyboard shortcut work. >>>> >>>>-Kevin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Kevin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting >>>> >>>> >>language >> >> >>>>that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live >>>> >>>> >>webcast >> >> >>>>and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding >>>> >>>> >>territory! >> >> >>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 >> >> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Fofredux-devel mailing list >>>>Fof...@li... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel >> >> >>>-- >>>Andrew Turner >>>ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W >>>http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting >>> >>> >>language >> >> >>>that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live >>> >>> >>webcast >> >> >>>and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding >>> >>> >>territory! >> >> >>http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 >> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Fofredux-devel mailing list >>>Fof...@li... >>> >>> >>> >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Andrew Turner >ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W >http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language >that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast >and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >Fofredux-devel mailing list >Fof...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-21 21:53:04
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Correct, MooFX is written with Prototype, so gives you that nice $F grabbing. I believe it's pared down. So MooFX is 3kb vs. the Prototype (30k) plus Scriptaculous, et al. http://moofx.mad4milk.net/ Quick Guide to Prototype: http://www.particletree.com/features/quick-guide-to-prototype/ Well, I guess this brings up the question - Khaled, any thoughts on how your interface scales to mobile devices? Andrew On 3/21/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > The secret to prototype is simply $F. It makes it so simple to grab a DO= M > object and begin to play with it. I've found prototype itself to be > relatively lightweight, since when you are doing ajax stuff, you really d= o > need the whole mix of stuff it provides. If i remember correctly, MooFX = is > built on prototype, and is more for javascript effects...similar to what = you > would find from yahoo!, rico, etc. prototype simply provides the framewo= rk > to make the rest possible. > In short, if we want the functionality, but not the fancy interface > effects...you just need prototype. I'm sure theres alternatives...but > everything i've done at work and home has started there, so that's the > extent of my experience. > > > > On 3/21/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > Good point about the keyboard implementation and other benefits. We > > should do a quick review/analysis of the available libraries before > > choosing one. > > > > Andrew > > > > On 3/21/06, Kevin < ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > > > > > Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface a= nd > > > > will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure = we > > > > keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) > > > > > > > > I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be > > > > very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much > > > > lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, = we > > > > just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done > > > > that before as well. > > > > > > I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few > > > reviews. It's benefits are not limited to Ajax. I think the event > > > handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also. The > > > event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort > > > finishing up the keyboard shortcut work. > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > > Fof...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Turner > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-03-21 21:39:05
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The secret to prototype is simply $F. It makes it so simple to grab a DOM object and begin to play with it. I've found prototype itself to be relatively lightweight, since when you are doing ajax stuff, you really do need the whole mix of stuff it provides. If i remember correctly, MooFX is built on prototype, and is more for javascript effects...similar to what yo= u would find from yahoo!, rico, etc. prototype simply provides the framework to make the rest possible. In short, if we want the functionality, but not the fancy interface effects...you just need prototype. I'm sure theres alternatives...but everything i've done at work and home has started there, so that's the extent of my experience. On 3/21/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > Good point about the keyboard implementation and other benefits. We > should do a quick review/analysis of the available libraries before > choosing one. > > Andrew > > On 3/21/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > > > Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface and > > > will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure we > > > keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) > > > > > > I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be > > > very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much > > > lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, we > > > just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done > > > that before as well. > > > > I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few > > reviews. It's benefits are not limited to Ajax. I think the event > > handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also. The > > event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort > > finishing up the keyboard shortcut work. > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > -- > > Kevin > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-21 20:11:24
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Good point about the keyboard implementation and other benefits. We should do a quick review/analysis of the available libraries before choosing one. Andrew On 3/21/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface and > > will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure we > > keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) > > > > I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be > > very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much > > lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, we > > just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done > > that before as well. > > I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few > reviews. It's benefits are not limited to Ajax. I think the event > handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also. The > event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort > finishing up the keyboard shortcut work. > > -Kevin > > > > -- > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua= ge > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc= ast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor= y! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-03-21 19:46:31
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> Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface and > will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure we > keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) > > I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be > very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much > lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, we > just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done > that before as well. I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few reviews. It's benefits are not limited to Ajax. I think the event handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also. The event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort finishing up the keyboard shortcut work. -Kevin --=20 Kevin |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-21 19:27:12
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Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface and will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure we keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :) I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, we just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done that before as well. Thanks for the feedback. Andrew On 3/21/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > Although to be honest, a few simple ajax uses here and there would be qui= te > nice. For example...click an item read, it goes to db straight away and > removes that item from view. would be quite simple. when you get into G= UI > implementations with ajax, you add lots of complexity that may not be > necessary. For reference, check out the prototype framework. > http://prototype.conio.net/ > .evan > > > On 3/20/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm... > wrote: > > > > Andrew I had a think about what you said and I've stripped those pages > down. The idea being that they don't actually fit into the look of the pa= ge, > so just take them out. They mean nothing in that context. Hopefully that > should make it all pretty clear that you're elsewhere. The only thing tha= t I > think would be good to put in a vertical column down the side (which woul= d > make it even more clear that you're somewhere else) is to have user > information about the page and how to use it. Anyway here's the simplifie= d > version. > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings-v2= .jpg > > > > To be honest I was only thinking about getting some ajaxy goodness in > there for funnily enough a usability pov, however if you guys aren't all > that keen on that sort of thing, that's cool. I've included what I think > could work very simply. It's very similar to the way that WordPress handl= es > these things, so it shouldn't difficult to implement. It's a first stab s= o > as always ideas and thoughts about how to improve this. > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-organise.jp= g > > > > We're nearly there :) (only 2 more pages to go). > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/20/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) < nil...@us...> > wrote: > > > I liked the vertical bar personally. Perhaps you could have the > > > vertical bar for all admin/config pages, so list the "Feeds Category > > > Tags ..." Vertically in the bar? Then the view page would have the ba= r > > > along the top. A way to visually differentiate b/w setup and viewing. > > > > > > As for the drag & drop - doable, not sure if we want to do that? We > > > don't want to over-bloat the interface with Ajax just for Ajax-sake. > > > Perhaps I can add it at some point for useability testing to see if > > > it's too much or not. > > > > > > I like the overall look out of how the pages are turning out! > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > On 3/19/06, khaled Abou Alfa < bro...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Just made the greys consistent throughout the design a bit (that's > including > > > > the main feeds page. I've also tweaked the login to be consistent w= ith > the > > > > admin panel. Just going to deal with the organising the feeds secti= on. > I was > > > > thinking how hard would it be to do an ajax drag and drop feature f= or > > > > putting the feeds into different catgories etc? Hard? Doable? > > > > > > > > Anyway here's a few of the pages: > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings.jp= g > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v3.jpg > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/framed-user-panel/Version-0.93.jpg > > > > > > > > khaled > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Turner > > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > > > > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-03-21 19:15:47
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Although to be honest, a few simple ajax uses here and there would be quite nice. For example...click an item read, it goes to db straight away and removes that item from view. would be quite simple. when you get into GUI implementations with ajax, you add lots of complexity that may not be necessary. For reference, check out the prototype framework. http://prototype.conio.net/ .evan On 3/20/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm...> wrote: > > Andrew I had a think about what you said and I've stripped those pages > down. The idea being that they don't actually fit into the look of the pa= ge, > so just take them out. They mean nothing in that context. Hopefully that > should make it all pretty clear that you're elsewhere. The only thing tha= t I > think would be good to put in a vertical column down the side (which woul= d > make it even more clear that you're somewhere else) is to have user > information about the page and how to use it. Anyway here's the simplifie= d > version. > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings-v2= .jpg > > To be honest I was only thinking about getting some ajaxy goodness in > there for funnily enough a usability pov, however if you guys aren't all > that keen on that sort of thing, that's cool. I've included what I think > could work very simply. It's very similar to the way that WordPress handl= es > these things, so it shouldn't difficult to implement. It's a first stab s= o > as always ideas and thoughts about how to improve this. > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-organise.jp= g > > We're nearly there :) (only 2 more pages to go). > > > > > On 3/20/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) <nil...@us...> > wrote: > > > > I liked the vertical bar personally. Perhaps you could have the > > vertical bar for all admin/config pages, so list the "Feeds Category > > Tags ..." Vertically in the bar? Then the view page would have the bar > > along the top. A way to visually differentiate b/w setup and viewing. > > > > As for the drag & drop - doable, not sure if we want to do that? We > > don't want to over-bloat the interface with Ajax just for Ajax-sake. > > Perhaps I can add it at some point for useability testing to see if > > it's too much or not. > > > > I like the overall look out of how the pages are turning out! > > > > Andrew > > > > On 3/19/06, khaled Abou Alfa < bro...@gm...> wrote: > > > Just made the greys consistent throughout the design a bit (that's > > including > > > the main feeds page. I've also tweaked the login to be consistent wit= h > > the > > > admin panel. Just going to deal with the organising the feeds section= . > > I was > > > thinking how hard would it be to do an ajax drag and drop feature for > > > putting the feeds into different catgories etc? Hard? Doable? > > > > > > Anyway here's a few of the pages: > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings.= jpg > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v3.jpg > > > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/framed-user-panel/Version-0.93.jp= g > > > > > > khaled > > > > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Turner > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > |
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From: khaled A. A. <bro...@gm...> - 2006-03-20 21:54:57
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Andrew I had a think about what you said and I've stripped those pages down= . The idea being that they don't actually fit into the look of the page, so just take them out. They mean nothing in that context. Hopefully that shoul= d make it all pretty clear that you're elsewhere. The only thing that I think would be good to put in a vertical column down the side (which would make i= t even more clear that you're somewhere else) is to have user information about the page and how to use it. Anyway here's the simplified version. http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings-v2.j= pg To be honest I was only thinking about getting some ajaxy goodness in there for funnily enough a usability pov, however if you guys aren't all that kee= n on that sort of thing, that's cool. I've included what I think could work very simply. It's very similar to the way that WordPress handles these things, so it shouldn't difficult to implement. It's a first stab so as always ideas and thoughts about how to improve this. http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-organise.jpg We're nearly there :) (only 2 more pages to go). On 3/20/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) <nil...@us...> wrote= : > > I liked the vertical bar personally. Perhaps you could have the > vertical bar for all admin/config pages, so list the "Feeds Category > Tags ..." Vertically in the bar? Then the view page would have the bar > along the top. A way to visually differentiate b/w setup and viewing. > > As for the drag & drop - doable, not sure if we want to do that? We > don't want to over-bloat the interface with Ajax just for Ajax-sake. > Perhaps I can add it at some point for useability testing to see if > it's too much or not. > > I like the overall look out of how the pages are turning out! > > Andrew > > On 3/19/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm...> wrote: > > Just made the greys consistent throughout the design a bit (that's > including > > the main feeds page. I've also tweaked the login to be consistent with > the > > admin panel. Just going to deal with the organising the feeds section. = I > was > > thinking how hard would it be to do an ajax drag and drop feature for > > putting the feeds into different catgories etc? Hard? Doable? > > > > Anyway here's a few of the pages: > > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings.jp= g > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v3.jpg > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/framed-user-panel/Version-0.93.jp= g > > > > khaled > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > |
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From: Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...> - 2006-03-20 00:53:24
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I liked the vertical bar personally. Perhaps you could have the vertical bar for all admin/config pages, so list the "Feeds Category Tags ..." Vertically in the bar? Then the view page would have the bar along the top. A way to visually differentiate b/w setup and viewing. As for the drag & drop - doable, not sure if we want to do that? We don't want to over-bloat the interface with Ajax just for Ajax-sake. Perhaps I can add it at some point for useability testing to see if it's too much or not. I like the overall look out of how the pages are turning out! Andrew On 3/19/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm...> wrote: > Just made the greys consistent throughout the design a bit (that's includ= ing > the main feeds page. I've also tweaked the login to be consistent with th= e > admin panel. Just going to deal with the organising the feeds section. I = was > thinking how hard would it be to do an ajax drag and drop feature for > putting the feeds into different catgories etc? Hard? Doable? > > Anyway here's a few of the pages: > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings.jp= g > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v3.jpg > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/framed-user-panel/Version-0.93.jpg > > khaled > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: khaled A. A. <bro...@gm...> - 2006-03-19 16:26:58
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Just made the greys consistent throughout the design a bit (that's includin= g the main feeds page. I've also tweaked the login to be consistent with the admin panel. Just going to deal with the organising the feeds section. I wa= s thinking how hard would it be to do an ajax drag and drop feature for putting the feeds into different catgories etc? Hard? Doable? Anyway here's a few of the pages: http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/admin-panel/Admin-Panel-settings.jpg http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v3.jpg http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/framed-user-panel/Version-0.93.jpg khaled |
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From: Miles B. <mil...@gm...> - 2006-03-18 16:07:27
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On 3/18/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm...> wrote: > Morning All, > > Just finished the login page, or at least the first iteration of it. I'll > try having a look at a few more different options for us to choose from. > Should there be another other elements apart from what I've currently sho= wn? > I can't think of anything but if there is you guys (and gal) think we sho= uld > include just tell me. Even though I like the vertical element in v1, v2 > seems to me to be slightly more consistent with the rest of the design. > Thoughts? > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v1.jpg > > http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-V2.jpg I think you're right. I like how V2 looks better than V1. |
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From: khaled A. A. <bro...@gm...> - 2006-03-18 11:33:36
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Morning All, Just finished the login page, or at least the first iteration of it. I'll try having a look at a few more different options for us to choose from. Should there be another other elements apart from what I've currently shown= ? I can't think of anything but if there is you guys (and gal) think we shoul= d include just tell me. Even though I like the vertical element in v1, v2 seems to me to be slightly more consistent with the rest of the design. Thoughts? http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-v1.jpg http://www.brokenkode.com/fofr/albums/login-panel/login-V2.jpg |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-03-17 12:44:14
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> > Kevin has created an automatic tarball generation, but for some reason http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/snapshots/ > Good point - we should investigate this. Can you file a bug? (it keeps > us more honest ;) and allows us to also know what major features were > added in which versions - same with the gzip as a feature request) Can do. Side note...how do i get access to the CVS (or SVN) itself. When = i try to connect with Eclipse, i'm getting a "no such user" error, even thoug= h i've got a valid account at sourceforge. Would be happy to change this stuff myself. > 3. My 3rd change is not so simple. As I tend to pile up items > > occasionally, i have to force fofr to remain in paged mode. If I don't= , > and > This is fixed in the newest version. I too had the problem and > suprised more people didn't in the original FoF. Ok, just installed it...so i'll try an import of the data and give it a test. Wo wohnst du? Braunschweig...but i wish i was still in chicago...blame the wife. |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-03-17 12:33:18
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On 3/17/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> I'm still on 0.2. I can gladly install a cvs snapshot to mess around
> with...if i could find one. there is no package in the downloads, and i'=
m
> not sure what to grab out of cvs.
Kevin has created an automatic tarball generation, but for some reason
I can't find the link - Kevin?
We probably want to put one up for the RC-0_3
> All you need to do is add
> "ob_start("ob_gzhandler");" to the top of init.php, and it's done. gzip
> handling is supported by all modern browsers...i've used it with IE6 and
> various firefox versions.
Cool, we'll try this.
> 2. In the database, since your release - i didn't have it with steve's f=
of
> - whenever an item is marked read, we change the cache time on update to
> current timestamp. I yanked this effect out of the DB so that cache time
> remains simply cache time. I'd suggest adding an extra field for read_ti=
me.
> I'd find it useful myself...but haven't gotten around to doing anything
> yet.
Good point - we should investigate this. Can you file a bug? (it keeps
us more honest ;) and allows us to also know what major features were
added in which versions - same with the gzip as a feature request)
> 3. My 3rd change is not so simple. As I tend to pile up items
> occasionally, i have to force fofr to remain in paged mode. If I don't, =
and
> try to load a large page, PHP blows up as it goes over it's allotted 8MB =
of
> RAM. I won't go into details, since it was a messy change...but i'd
> recommend putting some kind of $default_view into the config, so the user
> can choose what he wants to see.
This is fixed in the newest version. I too had the problem and
suprised more people didn't in the original FoF.
> Anyway, enough with that. point me in the right direction to the cvs
> snapshot to download, and i'd be happy test/debug the new version...nothi=
ng
> better to do this week with no work - "=FCberstunden" as they say here.
>
Wo wohnst du?
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Andrew Turner
ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W
http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA
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