Re: [Flightgear-devel] Swiss001 is promoting our new HDR looks + takeaways

[Frederic T. <the...@gm...>]

Political map: we can just use map tiles from OSM, and if someone doesn't
like the name that is displayed for a country, we tell them to please
discuss that with OSM :)
Also, perhaps we can omit the selectable feature, but I've never been a fan
of a map that doesn't tell me anything about the geographical location of
the airport, only what other airports and most importantly, gazillions of
way points / VORs / NDBs are around it - so, if we could make these show /
hideable and use a satellite / OSM map as the base map instead of whatever
this is that we have right now, I think that would be a huge plus.
Graphics: True, I didn't check what exactly wasn't showing why - if we
still have people using textranslate, fix your aircraft please :D But even
on the A320 the canvas displays were not showing (he might not have used
the HDR converted version tho if there is one).
AIrcraft quality: Yeah, I know - that's why I think we should put a
handcrafted list of ~10 high-quality aircraft from different ages, types
and roles somewhere, so that new users don't get put off because they
download a 10 year old, unmaintained model from somewhere. At the very
least, we should find a way to keep those out of the launcher - honestly I
have no idea though how this could be accomplished.

Am Di., 30. Dez. 2025 um 22:08 Uhr schrieb Nia via Flightgear-devel <
fli...@li...>:

> There might also an influx of new beings as I just presented flightgear
> and my home cockpit at an event with 15k participants...
> (and that might lead to more exposure soon *wink wink*)
>
> On 12/30/25 21:28, Frederic T. wrote:
> > But, here are my key takeaways from his video:
> > * *Apparently* we have too many files that need to be downloaded (an
> > AppImage and a ZIP for FGData is too much ? hmmm ...) although we do
> > need TerraSync for WS3 -> no more need to manually download WS3 packages
>
> I talked with James about it... I understood he'd create issues for the
> remaining tasks for that but I couldn't find them... maybe he forgot.
>
> > * We need a satellite / political world map with VORs / nav waypoints
> > hidden by default (because average people are usually only interested in
> > the airports and being able to tell where the airport is on the world)
> > in the launcher, from which airports can be selected directly
>
> Since you call it "political" map... that is a big pit fall of how to
> label states such as taiwan! (Not even big companies like apple have a
> good solution for that and as a hacky workaround just name it different
> name depending on where you tell them you're from!)
> Also, imo, what we have should suffice, for selecting airports... just
> search for the city you wanna start near by. No need to replicate what
> M$F$ does... it worked very well for decades without it!
>
> > * Too many graphics bugs, mainly we need to somehow create backwards
> > compatibility for displays since these seem to be broken on all the
> > aircraft he showcased.
>
> IMO no, don't make things backward compatible... the point of next is to
> cut technical debt... we won't do that by keeping all that stuff again!
> Get aircraft HDR ready instead!
>
> > * Maybe provide a list of recommended, high-quality aircraft for new
> users ?
>
> That's been a sore point for years... we "advertise" with "over 400
> aircraft models" and most of them are in many aspects quite bad.
> But that's a political decision the project has to decide on... the
> rating system was meant to solve this by having a default filter... but
> then devs set their ratings often higher than others would expect it, to
> not get filtered... and the problem repeats... see the discussion on
> that topic a few months back.
>
>
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