Re: [Fink-beginners] Windows in KDE?

[Dominique D. <do...@to...>]

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:37:15 -0400, Benjamin Reed  wrote:

> > The menu bar at the top loads and the kicker bar loads as well, but any
> > window I open (for example a konsole) lacks a title bar or any way to move
> > the window around or resize.
> > 
> > I had apple's x11 installed, but installed xDarwin over it.  Maybe this is
> > the problem.  Do I need to reinstall xDarwin?
> 
> That would be the problem.  If KDE's startup sees that you have
> /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm it uses it instead of kwin (the KDE window
> manager).  Since you still have that, but overwrote the rest of your X
> libraries, quartz-wm is broken and won't start.
> 
> Remove /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm and you should be fine...

I had the same problem as David Newman unsing KDE in fullscreen mode.
The trick works but you can no longer use quartz-wm with Apple X11.
However if quartz-wm is renamed say to mvd-quartz-wm, it is possible
to use it again through something like:

exec mvd-quartz-wm

In my opinion the problem is not that quartz-wm is broken, but that it
works only in rootless mode (it works for me with Apple X11 and the few
X applications I have tested).

Note also that KDE <= 3.1-17 does not have this problem. Does it exist
a way to force KDE 3.1.2-2 to use kwin instead of quartz-wm?

If someone is interested by testing the different implementations of X11 in
OSX, I have written a script which allows to run either (or both) Apple X11
and XDarwin.  Apple X11 has been installed over XDarwin, and the DISPLAY
has been set to 1 for XDarwin (following a tip coming with OROBOROSX, note
that I have found this morning that the echo is not working, but nothing
bad happen if you launch the script from OROBOROSX which was the primary
goal).  I am not an expert in writing shell scripts, I'll welcome any
suggestion to improve the script below (or correct basic mistakes).

Along the lines of unsolved problems with KDE, I have the following
situation:

The accented characters (French keyboard) are working with Apple X11,
OROBOROSX, and KDE 3.0.7-4 in Xterm or terminal windows, but not with
KDE 3.1-17 or 3.1.2-2. With emacs or Xemacs the accented characters work
for *ALL* configurations (from which I conclude the problem is not related
to a wrong configuration of the keyboard or the fonts, note also that
adding a xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap in .xinitrc does not help). Any suggestion
about whers to look in the configuration files?

Last problem, has anybody seen the following error message with f77:

f771: unrecognized option `-fconstant-cfstrings' ??

and if yes, what is the solution?

Cheers and many thanks to the people who answer the questions.

Dominique d'Humieres

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[gbook] /Users/dominiq% cat > .xinitrc

#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
    xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
    xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs

xset m 4

source /sw/bin/init.sh

disp=${DISPLAY}

if [ -z  $OROBOROSX_RANDOMID ]; then
    if [ -z $DISPLAY ]; then
	echo "no X11"
    elif [ $DISPLAY == ":0" ]; then
	xterm -geometry 80x40-2+100 -name `hostname` -ls -bd Grey &
	xterm -geometry 140x50+4+0 -name `hostname` -ls -bd Grey &
	exec mvd-quartz-wm 
    else
	exec /sw/bin/startkde >/tmp/kde.log 2>&1
    fi
else
    echo "OROBOROSX is running"
fi