RE: [Fink-beginners] windows appear initially as buttons?

[Alexander H. <ha...@ld...>]

KDE's manager works OK--you just have to shut off the desktop. 
Windowmaker works, too--you use the function keys to bring up the menus
that you normally get from clicking on the desktop.  Fvwm2 also worked
OK for me.

For a non-fink option OroborOSX (oroborosx.sourceforge.net) is designed
for rootless operation.

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 11:33, andy law (RI) wrote:
> John,
> 
> Its a twm (or at least an XDarwin rootless) thing.
> 
> I'm assuming that you are running XDarwin rootless? otherwise I'm talking out of my proverbial. Basically, when you launch an X application and you're using twm, the window should intially appear as an outline tied to the position of the cursor. As you move the cursor, the window outline moves so you can position the window where you want. When you click the mouse (left button), the window appears fully formed at that location. Unfortunately running XDarwin rootless trips up this behaviour on 2 counts. Firstly, the window outlines are not drawn at all. The only clue you get that something is happening is that the cursor changes to an inverted 'L' shape. This shows where the top left of the window will appear when you clear. While this is happening, XDarwin helpfully draws a 'button' representing the iconised application in the top left corner of your screen(s).Secondly, clicking on the (Mac OS X) desktop, or any non XDarwin window shifts focus away from XDarwin (and hence t
 he application you have just launched) . You then need to go back to XDarwin and click on the button icon to get the window to open up.
> 
> The only way to get the window to draw immediately after launch is to make sure that you click the mouse somewhere over another XDarwin window, rather than over a window from a different application or over the desktop (or run in full screen mode).
> 
> Incidentally, the lack of window outlines also becomes apparent when moving or resizing windows under rootless setup. Try running under full screen to see the difference.
> 
> If anyone has recommendations for window managers that provide good rootless behaviour, I'd love to hear from them.
> 
> Later,
> 
> Andy
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Gnaegy [mailto:gn...@ap...]
> > Sent: 28 August 2002 02:59
> > To: fin...@li...
> > Subject: [Fink-beginners] windows appear initially as buttons?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I installed fink, selfupdated it using CVS, and got gimp 
> > installed.  I'm 
> > using TWM.  Gimp runs and works fine, but the weird thing is that any 
> > new window initially appears as a button, a small rectangle 
> > showing only 
> > the window title.  Clicking on the button open the window to 
> > normal size 
> > and behavior.
> > 
> > Is this normal?  Is this default TWM behavior, or some preference 
> > setting in gimp?  If it's a preference how could I change it? 
> >  If it's 
> > specific to TWM I can just install another window manager.
> > 
> > 
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