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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-11 04:33:32
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Kelly wrote: > Dear Ted - I can zip my entire "X10 Home Controller Escapades" into a rather > large zip file. This includeds the DalSemi/Motorola demo of using > Motorola's iDEN phome to communid=cate to an X10 power module via a TINI > with a CM11A and a servlet from a PC. > > I also have a complete disporation on how to "Bullet Proof" the wiring in > you home that can somewhat minimize the erratic behavior of the AC wiring... If you are willing to donate this code and documentation to the project that would be great! Go ahead and create the .zip file, send me an email telling me the file's size and then we can figure out a way for me to get the file. Within the next few weeks I will begin adding some X10 information to the Embedlets website and making a place for it in the CVS. >Finally, TINI or TStik (at 1 MB) doesn't have the " grunt" to deal with >many X10's to support it. By grunt, do you mean that TINI couldn't pump out serial data to the CM11A module fast enough? Could you give a short description of where TINI fell short? Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Gregg G. W. <gr...@sk...> - 2003-11-11 03:51:25
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>Trust me on this... I would NOT hook one up to a coffee pot in fear of >buring my house down. > >Best regards, Kelly (been there, done that with X10s, anf gagged) Smith Yes, doing X-10 control with X-10 is hit and miss if you don't use the two way devices so that you know the state of things... But, there are those that play and learn, and I think we need to support the Firecracker, as well as the 2-way controller and modules... ----- gr...@cy... (Cyte Technologies Inc) |
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From: Kelly S. <be...@ea...> - 2003-11-11 02:20:06
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Dear Ted - I can zip my entire "X10 Home Controller Escapades" into a rather
large zip file. This includeds the DalSemi/Motorola demo of using
Motorola's iDEN phome to communid=cate to an X10 power module via a TINI
with a CM11A and a servlet from a PC.
I also have a complete disporation on how to "Bullet Proof" the wiring in
you home that can somewhat minimize the erratic behavior of the AC wiring...
Keep in mind that every home will be unique. I had lights going off and on
"Just for the Hello of it" at sporadic and un-corralatble times eith the
TINI unplugged from the CM11A. In short, people will be disappointed with
the results, and the TINI (at best) can only handle about four X10 modules
(on a good day, with no sun spots. Real world applications with X10, that
might endanger the public, are out of the question.
In short, X10 is _NOT_ a predictable and "rock solid" solution, and there
are too many variables to contend with on a case-by-case installation in a
home (much less a large installation like an industrial control site).
Finally, TINI or TStik (at 1 MB) doesn't have the " grunt" to deal with many
X10's to support it. I would rather bet on using 1-Wire devices and relays,
than go the X10 route (even if I do have to run some CAT5 cable in the
walls... Conclusion: X10 sucks!
Putting an X10 power controller on your spa, might be great for Lobsters
however. 8D
Best regards, Kelly ("Save the Lobsters Foundation") Smith
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Kosan
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Subject: RE: [Embedlets-dev] X10 and 802.11
Topic tags:[ARCH][JAPL][WIRING][DOCS][MGMT][STRATEGY][NEWBIE]
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Kelly wrote:
> Dear Jac and Ted - I used the X10s for about a years worth of waited time
> with the CM11A [...] Trust me on this... I would NOT hook one up to a
> coffee pot in fear of buring my house down.
This has been my perception of X10 for a while now too and that is why I
have
not spent too much energy on X10 myself. But it appears that the whole Home
Automation industry runs on X10 and so if we want to move Embedded Java into
this area it seems that we must interoperate with X10.
Here is a diagram of the current Home Automation scenario we need to deal
with:
http://www.smarthome.com/images/smarthomelive_setup_big.jpg
I noticed that 802.11 is starting to be used as the means of integrating
more
sophisticated devices into the home and as soon as we start talking standard
internet protocols then Embedded Java shines.
All we need is a strategy for introducing Embedded Java into the Home
Automation space and I personally think that remote and secure access to the
home using any Java enabled cell phone is the easiest way to do this.
Web Services based Enterprise Outpost can not do this but a JXTA based
JackNet
Home Outpost can and that is one reason that I am devoting a part of my time
to
JackNet.
Ted
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-11 01:42:46
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Kelly wrote: > Dear Jac and Ted - I used the X10s for about a years worth of waited time > with the CM11A [...] Trust me on this... I would NOT hook one up to a > coffee pot in fear of buring my house down. This has been my perception of X10 for a while now too and that is why I have not spent too much energy on X10 myself. But it appears that the whole Home Automation industry runs on X10 and so if we want to move Embedded Java into this area it seems that we must interoperate with X10. Here is a diagram of the current Home Automation scenario we need to deal with: http://www.smarthome.com/images/smarthomelive_setup_big.jpg I noticed that 802.11 is starting to be used as the means of integrating more sophisticated devices into the home and as soon as we start talking standard internet protocols then Embedded Java shines. All we need is a strategy for introducing Embedded Java into the Home Automation space and I personally think that remote and secure access to the home using any Java enabled cell phone is the easiest way to do this. Web Services based Enterprise Outpost can not do this but a JXTA based JackNet Home Outpost can and that is one reason that I am devoting a part of my time to JackNet. Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Kelly S. <be...@ea...> - 2003-11-11 01:16:11
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Dear Greg - Re: "Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased " http://www.x10.com Best regards, Kelly Smith -----Original Message----- From: emb...@li... [mailto:emb...@li...]On Behalf Of Gregg G. Wonderly Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:14 PM To: emb...@li... Subject: Re: [Embedlets-dev] Outpost rollout initiative, TStik & JINI Topic tags:[ARCH][JAPL][WIRING][DOCS][MGMT][STRATEGY][NEWBIE] _______________________________________________ >> Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased from? > >Ted, you might want to look into the CM11 interface as well. Probably a >bit more expensive, but able to monitor communications on the power net as >well, so if other means (wireless remote) are used to change the state of >a X10 device you'll be able to update the representation of the state in >the system as well. The CM11 is neat. But, as Jac says, it costs more because you have to buy it, and buy the two way switches/modules too. ----- gr...@cy... (Cyte Technologies Inc) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ _______________________________________________ Embedlets-developer mailing list Emb...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/embedlets-developer |
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From: Kelly S. <be...@ea...> - 2003-11-11 01:14:18
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Dear Jac and Ted - I used the X10s for about a years worth of waited time, with the CM11A (The "FireCracker" need a CTS handshake that is NOT in TINI's serial1). I was able to keep track of about for power modules with the CM11A, but operation with the CM11A was erratic as Hell, and with or without the CM11A plugged in to the TINI. I have a hard time recommeding X10s as a solution for "Home Control" applications. I would be more that happy to send my server code for SSC's TiniHttpServer, and you can find out for yourself how lousy X10s are... Trust me on this... I would NOT hook one up to a coffee pot in fear of buring my house down. Best regards, Kelly (been there, done that with X10s, anf gagged) Smith -----Original Message----- From: emb...@li... [mailto:emb...@li...]On Behalf Of Jac Kersing Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:02 PM To: emb...@li... Subject: Re: [Embedlets-dev] Outpost rollout initiative, TStik & JINI Topic tags:[ARCH][JAPL][WIRING][DOCS][MGMT][STRATEGY][NEWBIE] _______________________________________________ On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Ted Kosan wrote: > Well, this would be excellent! This X10 code base would allow us to > approach the more well known home automation companies in order to show > them the capabilities we are developing. Hmmm, may-be I should start polishing my X10 CM11 controller code a bit and donate it to the community as well. The current version of the code (servlet) has been monitoring the office X10 activity for 408 days (on TINI) without a single minute downtime :-) > Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased from? Ted, you might want to look into the CM11 interface as well. Probably a bit more expensive, but able to monitor communications on the power net as well, so if other means (wireless remote) are used to change the state of a X10 device you'll be able to update the representation of the state in the system as well. Regards, Jac -- Jac Kersing Technical Consultant The-Box Development j.k...@th... http://www.the-box.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ _______________________________________________ Embedlets-developer mailing list Emb...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/embedlets-developer |
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From: Gregg G. W. <gr...@sk...> - 2003-11-10 23:13:55
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>> Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased from? > >Ted, you might want to look into the CM11 interface as well. Probably a >bit more expensive, but able to monitor communications on the power net as >well, so if other means (wireless remote) are used to change the state of >a X10 device you'll be able to update the representation of the state in >the system as well. The CM11 is neat. But, as Jac says, it costs more because you have to buy it, and buy the two way switches/modules too. ----- gr...@cy... (Cyte Technologies Inc) |
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From: Gregg G. W. <gr...@sk...> - 2003-11-10 23:11:31
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>Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased from? http://www.x10.com/automation/firecracker.htm And, it is visible in other packages as well, look carefully if you want to get a bigger package. This is what I got, and I then added lamp and switch modules and appliance modules when they've had blowout sales. Gotta watch the website for good deals. ----- gr...@cy... (Cyte Technologies Inc) |
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From: Jac K. <j.k...@th...> - 2003-11-10 21:43:20
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Ted Kosan wrote: > Well, this would be excellent! This X10 code base would allow us to > approach the more well known home automation companies in order to show > them the capabilities we are developing. Hmmm, may-be I should start polishing my X10 CM11 controller code a bit and donate it to the community as well. The current version of the code (servlet) has been monitoring the office X10 activity for 408 days (on TINI) without a single minute downtime :-) > Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased from? Ted, you might want to look into the CM11 interface as well. Probably a bit more expensive, but able to monitor communications on the power net as well, so if other means (wireless remote) are used to change the state of a X10 device you'll be able to update the representation of the state in the system as well. Regards, Jac -- Jac Kersing Technical Consultant The-Box Development j.k...@th... http://www.the-box.com |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-10 18:46:40
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Gregg wrote: > It appears that there are 2 serial ports so that the device could be coupled > to the PC for JXTA interconnect using JackNet, and the other serial port used > for the "FireCracker". Actually, for JXTA I am planning on using the TSTIK's direct-into-ethernet capabilities and a JXTA proxy to access the JXTA network: http://tkosan.javadevices.org/misc/embeddedjava/personal_collective.gif You know, if you had any thoughts about leveraging Outposts to use with JINI this would probably be a good time to move forward with this. The way that I see it, the Outpost hardware we will be manufacturing can be used in 1) the Web Services scenario we originally talked about, 2) the new JackNet/JXTA scenario that I am working on and I do not see any reason why we can't add a third JINI scenario to the list. > I have no problem contributing my X10 code. I copied it from the C-language > Bottle-Rocket code for linux. It worked first time, out of the box... Well, this would be excellent! This X10 code base would allow us to approach the more well known home automation companies in order to show them the capabilities we are developing. Can you give a link to where FireCracker boxes can be purchased from? Thanks, Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Bruce B. <bb...@sy...> - 2003-11-10 18:36:08
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> >From: "Gregg G. Wonderly" <gr...@sk...> >Reply-To: emb...@li... > >A serial port that I can plug my X-10 "FireCracker" into. I have Java >code to >send the correct stream out to do X-10 control. This would let existing X-10 >users have remote control via JackNet immediately. TStik can do this with serial4 (now supported by TINI) which has hardware handshaking, which is I think required by FireCracker. >It would nice if there was either 4-20ma or 1-5v Analog-In and Analog-Out >support that would provide immediate monitoring and control capabilities for >commercial systems. To replace something we are already using, we'd need 8 >digital ins, 8 digital outs, 6 Analog-Ins and 4 Analog-Outs. We have prototypes of two JSimm boards which will do this. JSimm.DIO has 24 rugged, high current I/Os (150 mA min at 35 VDC max): http://jsimm.systronix.com/jsimm_dio.htm JSimm.AIO has 12-bit ADC with 8 inputs and 8 outputs: http://jsimm.systronix.com/jsimm_aio.htm The data on the web areas of both of these is a bit out of date, but we really do have working hardware for each, complete with XML tagging memory and classes to support reading and writing that memory. Of course you can add some of this I/O to the 1-Wire net, too. We have a JSimm.1Wire board which can be either a master or slave, and has both ADC and DAC on it: http://jsimm.systronix.com/jsimm_1wire.htm This board is available in a live TStik demo with servlets under the Tynamo HttpServer, this page has a link to the demo: http://www.systronix.com/tinistik/tstik72nb_data.html The JSimm.1-Wire is being held back until we implement a much more rugged and robust 1-Wire interface than the DS2480B. In the meantime we just finished another build of TStik, so both it and TILT400 are in stock, and TStik is still on a special price. The TILT400 Pro has the Embedlet connector with power, I2C and SPI all ready to go. See the documents here: http://www.systronix.com/tinistik/documentation.html I have yet to finish the quick references for each of these. Ted, keep up the great work! Regards Bruce ------- WWW.SYSTRONIX.COM ---------- Real embedded Java and much more www.jrealtime.com and www.tstik.com +1-801-534-1017 Salt Lake City, USA |
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From: Gregg G. W. <gr...@sk...> - 2003-11-10 18:17:44
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>>A serial port that I can plug my X-10 "FireCracker" into. I have Java >>code to send the correct stream out to do X-10 control. This would let >>existing X-10 >> >> users have remote control via JackNet immediately. > >Here is a link to the TStik's Pro socket board information: > >http://www.systronix.com/tinistik/socket.html' > >and TStik itself can be found at http://tstik.com > > >The serial port needed for X-10 communications via "FireCracker" is present and >if you were willing to donate your X-10 source code to the Embedlets project, >that would be great! It appears that there are 2 serial ports so that the device could be coupled to the PC for JXTA interconnect using JackNet, and the other serial port used for the "FireCracker". I have no problem contributing my X10 code. I copied it from the C-language Bottle-Rocket code for linux. It worked first time, out of the box... ----- gr...@cy... (Cyte Technologies Inc) |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-10 03:58:54
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Gregg wrote: >A serial port that I can plug my X-10 "FireCracker" into. I have Java >code to send the correct stream out to do X-10 control. This would let >existing X-10 > > users have remote control via JackNet immediately. Here is a link to the TStik's Pro socket board information: http://www.systronix.com/tinistik/socket.html' and TStik itself can be found at http://tstik.com The serial port needed for X-10 communications via "FireCracker" is present and if you were willing to donate your X-10 source code to the Embedlets project, that would be great! > It would nice if there was either 4-20ma or 1-5v Analog-In and Analog-Out > support that would provide immediate monitoring and control capabilities for > commercial systems. To replace something we are already using, we'd need 8 > digital ins, 8 digital outs, 6 Analog-Ins and 4 Analog-Outs. > > This is a lot of capabilty that would provide a great start for some serious > use of this stuff. It would be great to show the powers that be that this is > in fact very capable, and serious stuff. This kind of capability can easily be accommodated with the socket board's JSIMM connector: http://jsimm.systronix.com Or the socket board's 'Embedlets sensor net expansion header' (as listed in the socket board's info page!). I think it is time to start recruiting additional individuals and companies from the TINI and Systronix lists to help out with this effort. It looks like Outpost can use some circuit-board-oriented companies to start designing expansion boards for it at this point in time. Does anyone have a problem with me beginning an official Embedlets recruiting effort? Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Gregg G. W. <gr...@sk...> - 2003-11-10 03:14:47
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>If anyone wants to provide feedback as to what features, and sensor/actuator >modules, the initial alpha Outpost prototype should have, please submit them to >the list. A serial port that I can plug my X-10 "FireCracker" into. I have Java code to send the correct stream out to do X-10 control. This would let existing X-10 users have remote control via JackNet immediately. It would nice if there was either 4-20ma or 1-5v Analog-In and Analog-Out support that would provide immediate monitoring and control capabilities for commercial systems. To replace something we are already using, we'd need 8 digital ins, 8 digital outs, 6 Analog-Ins and 4 Analog-Outs. This is a lot of capabilty that would provide a great start for some serious use of this stuff. It would be great to show the powers that be that this is in fact very capable, and serious stuff. ----- gr...@cy... (Cyte Technologies Inc) |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-09 08:26:49
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I am getting a big kick out of announcing the Outpost rollout initiative just shy of one year before the Embedlets groups first annaversy. Here is a link to the original post from the JStamp list that I think started us off (it was Andrzej's wide-fan-out concept that triggered everything I think): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jstamp/message/1641 Anyway, now that the Embedlets/Outpost cat was let out of the bag at the JXTA Town Hall meeting last week, we are under the gun to put Outpost into production ASAP. As some of you may have gathered from earlier list traffic, for the past couple of months I have been working very hard to assemble the manufacturing capacity needed to put Outpost, along with an initial offering of sensors and actuators, into production. I am happy to announce that this effort has gone very well so far and we now have a company lined up that will be putting whatever we design into production. The initial Outposts will be based on TStik and they will be housed in industrial-quality plastic boxes which will be processed on CNC machinery. I am designing and building the CNC box processing workstation myself and its initial capacity should be about 8 boxes/hour. Hopefully, with a little effort, this rate should be able to be increased to 10+ boxes an hour. Replacing the machine's operator with a robot will increase this rate even more. The strategy that I am suggesting that we use is as follows: 1) Specify an alpha-level prototype box design. 2) Officially announce the existence of the Embedlets project to the TINI, TStik, JStamp, JStik and muvium lists and encourage as many developers as possible to join the group and help alpha-test Outpost. 3) Build enough alpha-level Outposts for the Embedlets group to test internally. The first generation sensor and actuator modules will be based on 1-Wire devices primarily because they are cheap, completely plug-and-play, and they can be accessed with the excellent Java-1Wire API. 4) Use the knowledge gained from the alpha testing in order to design a beta-level Outpost. Advertise what we are doing to the Java/J2EE community via articles on the main Java news sites and convince at least100 developers to purchase beta-level Outposts so that we can proceed with a beta test. The number 100 was chosen because there is often a price break on electronic parts bought in quantities of 100+. I think that the Embedlets group is so far ahead of the rest of the world in figuring out how to enable the connecting of 'billions of embedded devices' to the internet that has been predicted for a while now, that developers will be interested in helping out even if it only to obtain access to the knowledge that we have generated. 5) The post beta-level testing details can be determined at a later date. If anyone wants to provide feedback as to what features, and sensor/actuator modules, the initial alpha Outpost prototype should have, please submit them to the list. Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-09 01:48:34
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Andrzej wrote: >> I think that the Enterprise Outpost is going to be a real winner... > > Doh..sounds like we've come full circle! ;-) The JXTA Town Hall meeting presentation was the first place that I have personally talked about the Enterprise Outpost concept in the presence of J2EE developers and the reaction was quite interesting. Of course, I gave my presentation over the phone (conference-call style) so I could not see their reaction, but I definitely could hear it. I discussed various applications of JackNet and Embedlets technology, like remotely controlling things in one's home using a cell phone, and they thought that was pretty cool. But when I described the Enterprise Outpost idea we have been developing and how it enables IT support people to place these Outposts anywhere in a company, and then configure them to automatically feed data into backend J2EE systems, I could hear that the room started to buzz. This positive feedback from J2EE developers seems to confirm our opinion that the Enterprise Outpost is going to be a very popular technology. Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Andrzej J. T. <an...@ch...> - 2003-11-08 14:22:39
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> I think that the Enterprise Outpost is going to be a real winner... Doh..sounds like we've come full circle! ;-) Yes...I'm still around...just extremely busy with a client project for a few more weeks. Andrzej Jan Taramina Chaeron Corporation: Enterprise System Solutions http://www.chaeron.com |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-07 07:40:07
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We demonstrated the JackNet boxes at the JXTA town hall meeting on Thursday evening and it went very well. I talked at the meeting via a telephone and as I talked I controlled a lamp at Sun's campus and they controlled my lamp which was in Southern Ohio. I talked about the Embedlets project and what our goals are for the technology we are creating and I think it was received very well. I think one of the things that really caught their attention was the concept of a black boxes that IT support personnel can configure, deploy and then jack into a backend J2EE system so that it can feed data into it. I think that the Enterprise Outpost is going to be a real winner... My next goals are to develop a JavaOne session proposal for JackNet/Embedlets and to continue to put the manufacturing capacity in place needed to make a ton of these ApplianceController boxes. Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-11-04 05:50:06
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Here is some news that might put a smile on your face. JackNet and Embedlets are being featured on java.net's spotlight this week: http://java.net This is kind of a nice thing to have happen as we near the Embedlet project's first birthday :-) Ted PS, James says that the code base is not building properly again. I have not had time to look into this but I will within a day or two if no one else does before then. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-10-28 07:33:14
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The new JackNet site is now live and there is a picture of pre-production beta units there if anyone is interested in looking at them: http://jacknet.jxta.org/ The socket holes are all machined with CNC machinery and the company that will be producing them is going to use University student sub-contractors so that the manufacturing capacity can quickly scale up to significant levels if the demand is there. The code base has been completely reworked and moved over to the new JackNet site too and, aside from a lingering messaging bug, it is functional. In a related issue, take a good look at the beta Appliance Controller picture again because there is a good chance that this is what the Enterprise Outpost units are going to look like. Moving to CNC machining the holes for the plugs has opened up a whole new world of possibilities for flexibly manufacturing Enterprise Outposts with whatever I/O connector configurations a company needs. TSTIK and muvium are in full production now and so it is finally time to start moving Enterprise Outpost into development and then production. Bruce went out of his way to add the flexible I/O capabilities to the TSTIK socket boards that we requested and now we are going to make heavy use of them. TSTIKs talking to muviums over SLIP connections is going to be a killer combination I think. And the beauty of all this is that we can leverage the manufacturing capacity that is already being put in place for the JackNet devices to roll out the Enterprise Outposts. ;-) Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-10-28 06:53:39
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Chris wrote: > What steps do you see to get Embedlets/Outpost connected with JXTA. I am > assuming that a JAPL wrapper would provide the necessary bridge. There are a number of possibilities here and it is going to take some deep thinking to get it right I think. The nice thing, though, is that at this point in time the JackNet Appliance Controller application is only using a small JAPL class to allow it to control the box and this will give us the time needed to properly work out the Embedlets/JXTA integration. Another thing that I think is going to help is that we are finally going to have some users who are going to help drive our development efforts. It has been kind of tough developing the Embedlets code base without having some concrete applications to help guide the design decisions but it looks like this is about to change. Also, I know I promised to start a discussion on the persistence issue but until I get to a point where I am actually applying Embedlets to something concrete, I am finding that I just can't get myself to think clearly about it yet. The follow-on device to the JackNet Appliance Controller looks like it is going to be a 'jack directly into the net' TSTIK/muvium unit and this one will definitely be Embedlets based so I should be ready to dig deep into the Embedlets code base again at that time. But for now, I am scrambling to line up the manufacturing capacity to produce a significant number of the beta JackNet appliance controllers and this should keep me quite busy through the month of November. Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-10-28 01:21:58
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James has been having a bit of trouble posting to the list recently so he asked me to post the following message for him: <post> Hi all, Just getting on the road again with integrating the Remoting Service. Having problems building the Outhouse part of it though. Have got japl/embedlet/outpost to compile as expected but falls over with a bunch of problems with outhouse. Suggestions? It would seem the embedlet/japl/outpost ant build files may need to copy their jars to the outhouse/lib But there are still errors in RelayEmbedlet which apparently doesn't implement some abstract method. Who should fix these things.. James Caska www.muvium.com uVM - 'Java Bred for Embedded' </post> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Christopher S. <cs...@oo...> - 2003-10-27 18:20:14
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Ted, What steps do you see to get Embedlets/Outpost connected with JXTA. I am assuming that a JAPL wrapper would provide the necessary bridge. Chris Christopher Smith OopScope, LLC. www.oopscope.com cs...@oo... 805-276-0598 |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-10-27 02:52:23
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Jac wrote: > I've been looking for an english translation of the 1 sheet safety tips > extract I found. No luck so far. Anyone got the time to translate > dutch->english? (Or do you read dutch Ted?) I do not read Dutch but instead of purchasing the boxes from a company in the USA why not assemble the boxes yourself and become the first European manufacturer? I am in the process of helping a local company here tool up to start making JackNet appliance controller boxes but since the both the hardware designs and software are completely open, someone in Europe can certainly produce them too. Another option is to purchase the complete boxes in bulk as an OEM from this company and then become the European distributor. Or perhaps purchase sub-assemblies like just the CNC machined plastic enclosure and use European parts inside. Anyway, this market opportunity seems to be picking up steam now and if you are interested in getting in on the ground floor, now would be the time to get involved. Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ |
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From: Ted K. <tk...@ya...> - 2003-10-27 02:40:44
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Kelly wrote: > Dear Ted - I have two of Bruce Boyes' TStiks here with the JXTA socket. I > would like to get started, but see that there is no source code at JackNet: > > http://jacknet.jxta.org/source/browse/jacknet/ The existing code base is currently in the old globallightblinker project's CVS (globallightblinker.jxta.org) and I am in the process of reworking the code to change it over to jacknet. As soon as this reworking is finishied I will upload it to the jacknet CVS. The code in the globallightblinker CVS works though, just follow the directions in the README file. It uses full JXTA, however, which will not fit on a TSTIK. The next step in this process is to develop a JXME version of the application and this will run on TSTIK! Good luck! Ted __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ |
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