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Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Could you send a link to the errlog.txt for the latest version? Except 
for #1 of course, I'm not seeing any of these on my XP machine or a 
"clean" Win2K machine.

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 26, 2004, at 1:10 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I have spent several days with the latest version (2-5-4-15) and have 
> found
> very little in the way of bugs.
>
> Problems:
> 1. One problem I have seen so far was in the "page editor", in the 
> "text"
> window, you have doc and rtf listed as options, while in reality you 
> can't
> use them. I understand this is to be impleted in the future with OO 
> support.
> However, until that happens, I would remove them to avoid confusion. 
> IMHO
> 2. "Publish to web" doesn't seem to be working. I get a message saying
> "finished uploading", but when I check the server nothing is there. I 
> assume
> the entire directory would be uploaded.
> 3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html file for 
> file
> import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can double 
> click on
> it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.
> 4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with no name 
> and
> no properties when I preview the course.  I will need to play with 
> this one
> some more as I am having problems replicating it.
>
>
> Kudos:
> 1. Nice to see that you got the Real Video and Read Audio working on 
> the
> same page.
> 2. Great to see the PDF support is back up and running
> 3. The Search.py is working again in XP.
>
> Tomorrow, I will test it on a Win2k machine, but I think we are getting
> close.
>
> BJ
>
>
>
>
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[Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I have spent several days with the latest version (2-5-4-15) and have found
very little in the way of bugs.

Problems:
1. One problem I have seen so far was in the "page editor", in the "text"
window, you have doc and rtf listed as options, while in reality you can't
use them. I understand this is to be impleted in the future with OO support.
However, until that happens, I would remove them to avoid confusion. IMHO
2. "Publish to web" doesn't seem to be working. I get a message saying
"finished uploading", but when I check the server nothing is there. I assume
the entire directory would be uploaded.
3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html file for file
import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can double click on
it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.
4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with no name and
no properties when I preview the course.  I will need to play with this one
some more as I am having problems replicating it.


Kudos:
1. Nice to see that you got the Real Video and Read Audio working on the
same page.
2. Great to see the PDF support is back up and running
3. The Search.py is working again in XP.

Tomorrow, I will test it on a Win2k machine, but I think we are getting
close.

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

I've resolved the issues with PDF export on Windows 98, and hopefully=20
this will somehow resolve the problem that BJ is seeing on XP as well.=20=

The new build can be downloaded from here:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.4.5.14.exe

Please keep the bug reports coming, although you can also report if=20
there are no bugs. ;-)

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 20, 2004, at 10:23 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> You nailed it, I needed the newest version of the Export.
>
> Imagine my surprise, a new version of the export, it has only been 2.5
> years!  I don't understand why they aren't bundling everything=20
> together.
>
> New version of EClass coming?
>
> Thanks,
>
> BJ
>
>
>
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>
>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> On May 20, 2004, at 8:54 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Kevino,
>>>
>>> I am not hitting anything. Greenstone just stops and I get an error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error11.jpg
>>
>> Did you install the 2.50 export CD package as well? They just made a
>> new one.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
>>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
>>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
>>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>
>>>> Are you getting a "freeze" and then hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL to stop =
the
>>>> program? The error log you sent abruptly cuts off while Greenstone=20=

>>>> is
>>>> creating the indexes. I should note that I tested yesterday with
>>>> Greenstone 2.50 and things worked correctly, but for some reason,=20=

>>>> the
>>>> "creating index" dialog disappears too early, and you have to just
>>>> wait
>>>> a couple minutes for the indexes to be created. It will eventually=20=

>>>> pop
>>>> up the success message, it just takes time.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what could have changed between 2.4 and 2.5 to cause
>>>> this,
>>>> though. It seems like Greenstone is running commands as separate
>>>> processes, and EClass doesn't know these processes even exist, so =
it
>>>> thinks that Greenstone has finished. That being the case though,
>>>> there's not much I can do except maybe pop up a dialog saying "this
>>>> may
>>>> take a while, please be patient".
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if this is the issue or if there is something else =
going
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On May 20, 2004, at 3:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I
>>>>> wiped
>>>>> the
>>>>> errlog.txt and recreated the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> BJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William 'BJ' Cameron
>>>>> Payson Center
>>>>> Tulane University
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
>>>>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
>>>>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
>>>>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are=20
>>>>>> telling
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is =
not
>>>>>> being created, but that means that something went wrong before=20
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error
>>>>>> messages
>>>>>> which will shed some light on things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New Bug:
>>>>>>> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
>>>>>>> (2.50) Search. =46rom the errlog.txt:
>>>>>>> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> error message are located in the file: C:\Program
>>>>>>> Files\EClass.Builder
>>>>>>> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found =
by
>>>>>>> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
>>>>>>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
>>>>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find =
the
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> specified.')
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
>>>>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find =
the
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> specified.')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On May 20, 2004, at 10:23 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> You nailed it, I needed the newest version of the Export.
>
> Imagine my surprise, a new version of the export, it has only been 2.5
> years!  I don't understand why they aren't bundling everything=20
> together.
>
> New version of EClass coming?

Hopefully today or tomorrow. I'm still trying to figure out what is=20
going on with PDF export. So far I have been unable to reproduce the=20
problem except on Windows 98. There is supposed to be a fix, but=20
unfortunately the fix doesn't seem to work. ;-/

I'm trying to build a new version of the program, but that too is=20
giving me troubles. Once I've got something worked out, I'll post a new=20=

version.

Thanks,

Kevin

> Thanks,
>
> BJ
>
>
>
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>
>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> On May 20, 2004, at 8:54 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Kevino,
>>>
>>> I am not hitting anything. Greenstone just stops and I get an error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error11.jpg
>>
>> Did you install the 2.50 export CD package as well? They just made a
>> new one.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
>>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
>>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
>>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:47 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>
>>>> Are you getting a "freeze" and then hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL to stop =
the
>>>> program? The error log you sent abruptly cuts off while Greenstone=20=

>>>> is
>>>> creating the indexes. I should note that I tested yesterday with
>>>> Greenstone 2.50 and things worked correctly, but for some reason,=20=

>>>> the
>>>> "creating index" dialog disappears too early, and you have to just
>>>> wait
>>>> a couple minutes for the indexes to be created. It will eventually=20=

>>>> pop
>>>> up the success message, it just takes time.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what could have changed between 2.4 and 2.5 to cause
>>>> this,
>>>> though. It seems like Greenstone is running commands as separate
>>>> processes, and EClass doesn't know these processes even exist, so =
it
>>>> thinks that Greenstone has finished. That being the case though,
>>>> there's not much I can do except maybe pop up a dialog saying "this
>>>> may
>>>> take a while, please be patient".
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if this is the issue or if there is something else =
going
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On May 20, 2004, at 3:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I
>>>>> wiped
>>>>> the
>>>>> errlog.txt and recreated the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> BJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William 'BJ' Cameron
>>>>> Payson Center
>>>>> Tulane University
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
>>>>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
>>>>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
>>>>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are=20
>>>>>> telling
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is =
not
>>>>>> being created, but that means that something went wrong before=20
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error
>>>>>> messages
>>>>>> which will shed some light on things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New Bug:
>>>>>>> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
>>>>>>> (2.50) Search. =46rom the errlog.txt:
>>>>>>> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> error message are located in the file: C:\Program
>>>>>>> Files\EClass.Builder
>>>>>>> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found =
by
>>>>>>> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
>>>>>>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
>>>>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find =
the
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> specified.')
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>> File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
>>>>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find =
the
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> specified.')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

You nailed it, I needed the newest version of the Export.

Imagine my surprise, a new version of the export, it has only been 2.5
years!  I don't understand why they aren't bundling everything together.

New version of EClass coming?

Thanks,

BJ



William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test


> Hi BJ,
>
> On May 20, 2004, at 8:54 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Kevino,
> >
> > I am not hitting anything. Greenstone just stops and I get an error
> > message.
> >
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error11.jpg
>
> Did you install the 2.50 export CD package as well? They just made a
> new one.
>
> Kevin
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> > To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> > Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> > <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
> >
> >
> >> Hi BJ,
> >>
> >> Are you getting a "freeze" and then hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL to stop the
> >> program? The error log you sent abruptly cuts off while Greenstone i=
s
> >> creating the indexes. I should note that I tested yesterday with
> >> Greenstone 2.50 and things worked correctly, but for some reason, th=
e
> >> "creating index" dialog disappears too early, and you have to just
> >> wait
> >> a couple minutes for the indexes to be created. It will eventually p=
op
> >> up the success message, it just takes time.
> >>
> >> I don't know what could have changed between 2.4 and 2.5 to cause
> >> this,
> >> though. It seems like Greenstone is running commands as separate
> >> processes, and EClass doesn't know these processes even exist, so it
> >> thinks that Greenstone has finished. That being the case though,
> >> there's not much I can do except maybe pop up a dialog saying "this
> >> may
> >> take a while, please be patient".
> >>
> >> Let me know if this is the issue or if there is something else going
> >> on.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On May 20, 2004, at 3:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Kevino,
> >>>
> >>> I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I
> >>> wiped
> >>> the
> >>> errlog.txt and recreated the problem.
> >>>
> >>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
> >>>
> >>> Let me know what you think.
> >>>
> >>> BJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> William 'BJ' Cameron
> >>> Payson Center
> >>> Tulane University
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> >>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> >>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> >>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi BJ,
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are telli=
ng
> >>>> me
> >>>> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is not
> >>>> being created, but that means that something went wrong before the=
se
> >>>> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error
> >>>> messages
> >>>> which will shed some light on things.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kevino,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> New Bug:
> >>>>> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
> >>>>> (2.50) Search. From the errlog.txt:
> >>>>> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> error message are located in the file: C:\Program
> >>>>> Files\EClass.Builder
> >>>>> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by
> >>>>> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
> >>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>>> File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
> >>>>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
> >>>>> None
> >>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>>> File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
> >>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the
> >>>>> file
> >>>>> specified.')
> >>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>>> File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
> >>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the
> >>>>> file
> >>>>> specified.')
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BJ
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g
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e
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On May 20, 2004, at 8:54 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Kevino,
>
> I am not hitting anything. Greenstone just stops and I get an error=20
> message.
>
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error11.jpg

Did you install the 2.50 export CD package as well? They just made a=20
new one.

Kevin

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>
>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> Are you getting a "freeze" and then hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL to stop the
>> program? The error log you sent abruptly cuts off while Greenstone is
>> creating the indexes. I should note that I tested yesterday with
>> Greenstone 2.50 and things worked correctly, but for some reason, the
>> "creating index" dialog disappears too early, and you have to just=20
>> wait
>> a couple minutes for the indexes to be created. It will eventually =
pop
>> up the success message, it just takes time.
>>
>> I don't know what could have changed between 2.4 and 2.5 to cause=20
>> this,
>> though. It seems like Greenstone is running commands as separate
>> processes, and EClass doesn't know these processes even exist, so it
>> thinks that Greenstone has finished. That being the case though,
>> there's not much I can do except maybe pop up a dialog saying "this=20=

>> may
>> take a while, please be patient".
>>
>> Let me know if this is the issue or if there is something else going=20=

>> on.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On May 20, 2004, at 3:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>
>>> I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I=20
>>> wiped
>>> the
>>> errlog.txt and recreated the problem.
>>>
>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> William 'BJ' Cameron
>>> Payson Center
>>> Tulane University
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
>>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
>>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
>>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi BJ,
>>>>
>>>> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are =
telling
>>>> me
>>>> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is not
>>>> being created, but that means that something went wrong before =
these
>>>> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error=20
>>>> messages
>>>> which will shed some light on things.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>>>
>>>>> New Bug:
>>>>> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
>>>>> (2.50) Search. =46rom the errlog.txt:
>>>>> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on=20=

>>>>> the
>>>>> error message are located in the file: C:\Program
>>>>> Files\EClass.Builder
>>>>> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by
>>>>> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
>>>>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
>>>>> None
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
>>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the
>>>>> file
>>>>> specified.')
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
>>>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the
>>>>> file
>>>>> specified.')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> BJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>

Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Kevino,

I am not hitting anything. Greenstone just stops and I get an error messa=
ge.

http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error11.jpg

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test


> Hi BJ,
>
> Are you getting a "freeze" and then hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL to stop the
> program? The error log you sent abruptly cuts off while Greenstone is
> creating the indexes. I should note that I tested yesterday with
> Greenstone 2.50 and things worked correctly, but for some reason, the
> "creating index" dialog disappears too early, and you have to just wait
> a couple minutes for the indexes to be created. It will eventually pop
> up the success message, it just takes time.
>
> I don't know what could have changed between 2.4 and 2.5 to cause this,
> though. It seems like Greenstone is running commands as separate
> processes, and EClass doesn't know these processes even exist, so it
> thinks that Greenstone has finished. That being the case though,
> there's not much I can do except maybe pop up a dialog saying "this may
> take a while, please be patient".
>
> Let me know if this is the issue or if there is something else going on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On May 20, 2004, at 3:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I wipe=
d
> > the
> > errlog.txt and recreated the problem.
> >
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
> >
> > Let me know what you think.
> >
> > BJ
> >
> >
> >
> > William 'BJ' Cameron
> > Payson Center
> > Tulane University
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> > To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> > Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> > <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
> >
> >
> >> Hi BJ,
> >>
> >> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are telling
> >> me
> >> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is not
> >> being created, but that means that something went wrong before these
> >> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error message=
s
> >> which will shed some light on things.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Kevino,
> >>>
> >>> New Bug:
> >>> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
> >>> (2.50) Search. From the errlog.txt:
> >>> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on th=
e
> >>> error message are located in the file: C:\Program
> >>> Files\EClass.Builder
> >>> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by
> >>> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
> >>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>> File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
> >>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
> >>> None
> >>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>> File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
> >>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the
> >>> file
> >>> specified.')
> >>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>> File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
> >>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the
> >>> file
> >>> specified.')
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> BJ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
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> >
>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Are you getting a "freeze" and then hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL to stop the=20
program? The error log you sent abruptly cuts off while Greenstone is=20
creating the indexes. I should note that I tested yesterday with=20
Greenstone 2.50 and things worked correctly, but for some reason, the=20
"creating index" dialog disappears too early, and you have to just wait=20=

a couple minutes for the indexes to be created. It will eventually pop=20=

up the success message, it just takes time.

I don't know what could have changed between 2.4 and 2.5 to cause this,=20=

though. It seems like Greenstone is running commands as separate=20
processes, and EClass doesn't know these processes even exist, so it=20
thinks that Greenstone has finished. That being the case though,=20
there's not much I can do except maybe pop up a dialog saying "this may=20=

take a while, please be patient".

Let me know if this is the issue or if there is something else going on.

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 20, 2004, at 3:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I wiped=20=

> the
> errlog.txt and recreated the problem.
>
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> BJ
>
>
>
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>
>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are telling=20=

>> me
>> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is not
>> being created, but that means that something went wrong before these
>> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error messages
>> which will shed some light on things.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>
>>> New Bug:
>>> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
>>> (2.50) Search. =46rom the errlog.txt:
>>> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on the
>>> error message are located in the file: C:\Program=20
>>> Files\EClass.Builder
>>> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by
>>> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
>>> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
>>> None
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the=20
>>> file
>>> specified.')
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
>>> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the=20
>>> file
>>> specified.')
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>> Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle=20=

>> 10g.
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>>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I am working on a different machine today (joys of commuting), I wiped th=
e
errlog.txt and recreated the problem.

http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt

Let me know what you think.

BJ



William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test


> Hi BJ,
>
> Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are telling me
> that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is not
> being created, but that means that something went wrong before these
> errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error messages
> which will shed some light on things.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > New Bug:
> > I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone
> > (2.50) Search. From the errlog.txt:
> > There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on the
> > error message are located in the file: C:\Program Files\EClass.Builde=
r
> > 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by
> > viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
> > OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
> > None
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
> > pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the fil=
e
> > specified.')
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> > File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
> > pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the fil=
e
> > specified.')
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > BJ
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Could you send me the complete error log? These messages are telling me=20=

that the Program Files\gsdl\tmp\exported_collections folder is not=20
being created, but that means that something went wrong before these=20
errors occurred. Hopefully there will be some previous error messages=20
which will shed some light on things.

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> New Bug:
> I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone=20
> (2.50)=A0Search. =46rom the=A0errlog.txt:
> There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on the=20=

> error message are located in the file: C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder=20=

> 2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by=20
> viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> =A0 File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
> None
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> =A0 File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the file=20=

> specified.')
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> =A0 File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
> pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the file=20=

> specified.')=A0=A0
>
>
> =A0
> Thanks
> =A0
> BJ
>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

New Bug:

I am getting an error when publishing and using Greenstone (2.50) =
Search. From the errlog.txt:
There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on the =
error message are located in the file: C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder =
2.5.4.13\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can be found by =
viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 935, in PublishEClass
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
None
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 893, in PublishToCD
pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the file =
specified.')
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 808, in PublishToPDF
pywintypes.error: (2, 'ShellExecute', 'The system cannot find the file =
specified.') =20

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Thanks

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On May 17, 2004, at 1:10 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
>
> Bug 1:
> The quiz plugin in is acting funny.=A0 You can create new quizzes, but =
=20
> they do
> not show up in the preview window, nor when you publish them.

In my tests, quizzes were publishing and previewing, but the graphics =20=

weren't being copied (another one of the moving issues). I have fixed =20=

that, and hopefully that should resolve this problem as well.

> Bug 2:
> Karrigell.exe is not running properly, I get an error message saying =20=

> "This
> application has failed to start because PywinTupes23.dll was not =
found.
> Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
> After, I click Ok, I get this message:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error10.jpg
> =A0
> Re-installing doesn't work and there is nothing in the Errlog.txt file

The error is obvious here (the dll is missing), but figuring out why =20
the DLL was missing took some time to track down. For the moment, I've =20=

replaced it, so that should solve the problem at your end at least. ;-) =20=

(At my end, I need to figure out a solution - the DLL doesn't even =20
exist in Python anymore.)

> Bug3:
> When publishing to PDF, it appears everything is working fine, you get =
=20
> a window asking if you want to preview it, you click "ok" and nothing =20=

> happens. When you go to the EClass folder, no pdfs are present.

I am seeing a similar problem on Windows 98, but not on Win 2K or XP. =20=

Which OS are you testing on?

> This could be related to the quiz problem, from the errlog.txt file:
> =A0
> 'Could not copy Quiz files from C:\\Program Files\\EClass.Builder =20
> 2.5.4.13\\plugins\\Quiz\\Files to your EClass. Please check that you =20=

> have enough hard disk space to write this file and that you have =20
> permission to write to the file.'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> =A0 File "<string>", line 1105, in Update
> =A0 File =20
> "F:\oss\eclass\eclass_builder\installer\buildeditor\out1.pyz/=20
> conman.plugins", line 99, in Publish
> =A0 File "C:/Program Files/EClass.Builder 2.5.4.13\plugins\quiz.py", =20=

> line 455, in GetData
> =A0=A0=A0 raise IOError, message
> IOError: Could not copy Quiz files from C:\Program =20
> Files\EClass.Builder 2.5.4.13\plugins\Quiz\Files to your EClass. =20
> Please check that you have enough hard disk space to write this file =20=

> and that you have permission to write to the file.
> None

This is the quiz graphics 'bug' that I think is related to problem #1.

Thanks,

Kevin

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: <ecl...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:12 PM
> Subject: [Eclass-users] New build - please test
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A new version of EClass.Builder has been uploaded to the EClass web
> > site. You can download it from:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.13.exe
> >
> > This should resolve the issues that BJ reported last week (the Real
> > Media issue, the opening dialog issue, and hopefully the "new" =
button
> > issue). However, I want to point out that I also made some other
> > changes that make it easier to build EClass on different platforms, =20=

> and
> > as a result, I've moved some files around. I've tested most =20
> everything
> > I can think of, but please test to make sure everything still works =20=

> as
> > it should.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Eclass-users] New build - please test

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,


Bug 1:
The quiz plugin in is acting funny.  You can create new quizzes, but =
they do
not show up in the preview window, nor when you publish them.

Bug 2:
Karrigell.exe is not running properly, I get an error message saying =
"This
application has failed to start because PywinTupes23.dll was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this problem."
After, I click Ok, I get this message:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error10.jpg

Re-installing doesn't work and there is nothing in the Errlog.txt file

Bug3:
When publishing to PDF, it appears everything is working fine, you get a =
window asking if you want to preview it, you click "ok" and nothing =
happens. When you go to the EClass folder, no pdfs are present.

This could be related to the quiz problem, from the errlog.txt file:

'Could not copy Quiz files from C:\\Program Files\\EClass.Builder =
2.5.4.13\\plugins\\Quiz\\Files to your EClass. Please check that you =
have enough hard disk space to write this file and that you have =
permission to write to the file.'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1105, in Update
  File =
"F:\oss\eclass\eclass_builder\installer\buildeditor\out1.pyz/conman.plugi=
ns", line 99, in Publish
  File "C:/Program Files/EClass.Builder 2.5.4.13\plugins\quiz.py", line =
455, in GetData
    raise IOError, message
IOError: Could not copy Quiz files from C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder =
2.5.4.13\plugins\Quiz\Files to your EClass. Please check that you have =
enough hard disk space to write this file and that you have permission =
to write to the file.
None

I will keep looking tomorrow when I have more time,

BJ


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: <ecl...@li...>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:12 PM
Subject: [Eclass-users] New build - please test


> Hi all,
>
> A new version of EClass.Builder has been uploaded to the EClass web
> site. You can download it from:
>
> http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.13.exe
>
> This should resolve the issues that BJ reported last week (the Real
> Media issue, the opening dialog issue, and hopefully the "new" button
> issue). However, I want to point out that I also made some other
> changes that make it easier to build EClass on different platforms, =
and
> as a result, I've moved some files around. I've tested most everything
> I can think of, but please test to make sure everything still works as
> it should.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
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[Eclass-users] New build - please test

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

A new version of EClass.Builder has been uploaded to the EClass web 
site. You can download it from:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.13.exe

This should resolve the issues that BJ reported last week (the Real 
Media issue, the opening dialog issue, and hopefully the "new" button 
issue). However, I want to point out that I also made some other 
changes that make it easier to build EClass on different platforms, and 
as a result, I've moved some files around. I've tested most everything 
I can think of, but please test to make sure everything still works as 
it should.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] Support of SCORM and Microsoft LRN format?

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi Lua,

On May 13, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Lua Kim Teng wrote:

> May I know whether the latest eClass support SCORM and Microsoft LRN?

EClass does support the Microsoft LRN tools in that it supports the IMS 
Content Packaging standard, which is one of the formats Microsoft LRN 
uses. I will need to do a few more changes though to make it completely 
interchangeable with Microsoft LRN, however, and this is high on my 
todo list. I would say it will happen in the next few weeks.

As for SCORM compliance, it is not yet implemented, but this is 
something that is planned, hopefully in the near future.

Please let me know if you have any more questions or comments!

Thanks,

Kevin

[Eclass-users] Support of SCORM and Microsoft LRN format?

[Lua K. T. <lu...@in...>]

May I know whether the latest eClass support SCORM and Microsoft LRN?

Thanks.

Lua KT.

Re: [Eclass-users] media Bug

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Am currently working on fixing some more developer-related issues with=20=

EClass. Over the past 8-12 months, EClass has started incorporating=20
more and more functionality, some from 3rd parties, and I need to make=20=

this a bit easier to manage so that Linux users particularly can build=20=

EClass without too much trouble. It will also make it easier for me to=20=

manage, and help me to put Mac support back on the map again. ;-) This=20=

will take a couple days, probably finishing around Wednesday-Thursday.=20=

At that point, I will come back to these issues. I plan on having a new=20=

release ready for Friday. I want to get this release solid so that I=20
can start promoting it, and it's important that Linux has some basic=20
support at least, because it's likely that any volunteers to help will=20=

come from that platform.

And, BTW, nothing is too picky. It is always just the tradeoff between=20=

how much work it will be to fix and how serious the problem is.=20
Particularly if I know what the problem is and the fix is relatively=20
quick, I can (and will) take care of it right away. =46rom your issues=20=

below, the only one that may need some work to fix is the Real Media=20
bug. I have a feeling it is related to the "media controller" property=20=

that RM has. These need to be the same between video and audio so that=20=

they are "synched", but when there is a separate audio file, there=20
needs to be a "separate" audio controller. So that means having EClass=20=

determine if the audio belongs to a video, or is separate.

Anyways, I should have everything ready in the next few days. Thanks=20
again for all your help! =3D)

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 3, 2004, at 10:28 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Media Bug:
>
> If you have a RealMedia video clip and a RealMedia audio clip in the=20=

> page editor, you get two sets of controls (like you would expect) in=20=

> the page.=A0However, they both play the=A0same media clip and the =
other=20
> gets lost. This does not happen with WMP and combination of WMP, Real,=20=

> and QuickTime.
> =A0
> Idiosyncrasy with Splash window
>
>
> I have not been able to recreate the "missing=A0Splash=A0window". I =
must=20
> have clicked on "don't show this dialog at startup" and didn't realize=20=

> it.
> =A0
> <<LATER>>
> I have been able to re-create the problem, it occurs when you check=20
> and un-check the dialog box "don't show this dialog at startup". For=20=

> some reason, it doesn't register that you un-checked it. Re-installing=20=

> doesn't bring back the splash window.
> =A0
> Interface:
> At 16 bit (high color) 800x600 resolution (even more so at 640x80),=A0I=20=

> am seeing some white spots around the "new course" button. I imagine=20=

> it was suppose to be transparent? Is there an ideal resolution for=20
> EClass?
> =A0
> Am I being too picky?=A0
> =A0
> =A0
> I am still looking, but we are getting very close
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University

[Eclass-users] media Bug

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Media Bug:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

If you have a RealMedia video clip and a RealMedia audio clip in the =
page editor, you get two sets of controls (like you would expect) in the =
page. However, they both play the same media clip and the other gets =
lost. This does not happen with WMP and combination of WMP, Real, and =
QuickTime.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Idiosyncrasy with Splash window

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

I have not been able to recreate the "missing Splash window". I must =
have clicked on "don't show this dialog at startup" and didn't realize =
it.

<<LATER>>
I have been able to re-create the problem, it occurs when you check and =
un-check the dialog box "don't show this dialog at startup". For some =
reason, it doesn't register that you un-checked it. Re-installing =
doesn't bring back the splash window.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Interface:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

At 16 bit (high color) 800x600 resolution (even more so at 640x80), I am =
seeing some white spots around the "new course" button. I imagine it was =
suppose to be transparent? Is there an ideal resolution for EClass?

Am I being too picky?=20

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------



I am still looking, but we are getting very close


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University

Re: [Eclass-users] bugs and praise

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Thanks, not sure how I missed these. They're fixed, and I've uploaded a=20=

new version:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.12.exe

Also, I think I may have realized what the problem was with the server=20=

on the hard drive. Do you have a "karrigell.ini" file in the EClass=20
root directory? Try deleting that and see if the server keeps giving=20
you problems.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 29, 2004, at 12:57 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Sorry this email was in the works when you sent the latest version.
> =A0
> Bug:
> Publishing to PDF does not work. After publishing, you get a=20
> "Complete" message and asking if=A0you want to preview it. If you=20
> click=A0"Yes" nothing happens and if you go looking for it, there is =
no=20
> PDF file in the course directory.
> =A0
> I have tried this with a course that I had previously had success=20
> publishing to pdf and it still doesn't work
> =A0
> Still happening in v2.5.4.11
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Bugs in v25b4.11
> Child Pages don't appear in the preview window even when there is=20
> material; Eclass pages, quiz, and web pages.File imports work fine.=20
> The files aren't even in the pub directory.
> =A0
> I closed and re-open Eclass and everything published fine.
> =A0
> I have posted the Errlog.txt to:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
> =A0
> This is seems to happen everytime you create a new course or add new=20=

> material to an existing course. If you close the course, and then=20
> re-open and re-open the page that is having problems and click "ok"=20
> then the material appears.
> =A0
> There is still an extra w in the=A0Parquesoft URL=A0in the about Help=20=

> menu, about EClass.=A0=A0
> http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Praise:
> This is the first time I had used the Link checker, it works great. It=20=

> would be even cooler if you could open the offending page, but that is=20=

> probably asking way too much.
> The whole adding and importing files to "gray" selected pages seems to=20=

> be fixed!!
> The problems with Import files seems to be fixed.
> =A0
> I'll keep looking more this afternoon.
> =A0
> Best,
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:  BJ Cameron
> To: Kevin Ollivier
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ;=20
> Hju...@cs...
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:21 PM
> Subject: [Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info
>
> Kevino,
> =A0
>  =A0
> Suggestion:
> =A0
> This is an interface=A0suggestion probably to be implemented=A0for=A0the=
=20
> next version.
> =A0
> If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still=20
> available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are=20
> still available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items=20=

> are not available until a file (or in this case a course)=A0is open. =
Too=20
> picky?
> =A0
>
> =A0
> Bug:
> =A0
> In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have=20
> not typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page,=20=

> you can't even reopen the quiz page=A0and all you can do is "remove" =
the=20
> page from the outline.
> =A0
> =A0
>
> =A0More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:
> =A0
> This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray"=20
> selected=A0course page.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/
> =A0
> The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the=20=

> course page.
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: BJ Cameron
> To: Kevin Ollivier
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ;=20
> Hju...@cs...
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one
>
> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> <<snip>>
>
> > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a=20
> course. I
> > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item.=20=

> The
> > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an=20=

> item to
> > the course level. However, when published or when the course is=20
> re-opened it
> > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I=20=

> mean.
> >
> > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course=20=

> preview,
> > this causes even more problems.
> > Check out what happened to my course page:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
> >
> > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can=20
> get you a
> > more detailed explanation.
>
> The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray"=20=

> selected=A0item, and not always the newly created item.=A0For instance =
if=20
> you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the=20
> correct place, but it also=A0changes the Course page display. See the=20=

> above hyperlinked course.
> =A0
> Why the difference between gray and blue? I=A0never seem to have a=20
> problem when the item is "blue" selected.
> =A0
> =A0
> New Bugs:
> =A0
> 1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the=20=

> URL of Parquesoft.
> http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
> Wild World Wide Web?
> =A0
> =A0
> Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0

[Eclass-users] bugs and praise

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Sorry this email was in the works when you sent the latest version.

Bug:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

Publishing to PDF does not work. After publishing, you get a "Complete" =
message and asking if you want to preview it. If you click "Yes" nothing =
happens and if you go looking for it, there is no PDF file in the course =
directory.

I have tried this with a course that I had previously had success =
publishing to pdf and it still doesn't work

Still happening in v2.5.4.11

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------




Bugs in v25b4.11

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

Child Pages don't appear in the preview window even when there is =
material; Eclass pages, quiz, and web pages.File imports work fine. The =
files aren't even in the pub directory.

I closed and re-open Eclass and everything published fine.

I have posted the Errlog.txt to:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt

This is seems to happen everytime you create a new course or add new =
material to an existing course. If you close the course, and then =
re-open and re-open the page that is having problems and click "ok" then =
the material appears.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


There is still an extra w in the Parquesoft URL in the about Help menu, =
about EClass. =20
http://wwww.parquesoft.com/


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------




Praise:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

This is the first time I had used the Link checker, it works great. It =
would be even cooler if you could open the offending page, but that is =
probably asking way too much.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

The whole adding and importing files to "gray" selected pages seems to =
be fixed!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

The problems with Import files seems to be fixed.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


I'll keep looking more this afternoon.

Best,

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: BJ Cameron=20
  To: Kevin Ollivier=20
  Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ; =
Hju...@cs...=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:21 PM
  Subject: [Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info


  Kevino,


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----
  =20
  Suggestion:

  This is an interface suggestion probably to be implemented for the =
next version.

  If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still =
available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are still =
available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items are not =
available until a file (or in this case a course) is open. Too picky?


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----


  Bug:

  In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have =
not typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page, =
you can't even reopen the quiz page and all you can do is "remove" the =
page from the outline.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----

   More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:

  This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray" selected =
course page.
  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/

  The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the =
course page.

  BJ


  William 'BJ' Cameron
  Payson Center
  Tulane University
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: BJ Cameron=20
    To: Kevin Ollivier=20
    Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ; =
Hju...@cs...=20
    Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new =
one


    Hi Kevino,

    <<snip>>

    > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a =
course. I
    > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. =
The
    > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as =
an item to
    > the course level. However, when published or when the course is =
re-opened it
    > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what =
I mean.
    >=20
    > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the =
course preview,
    > this causes even more problems.
    > Check out what happened to my course page:
    > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
    >=20
    > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can =
get you a
    > more detailed explanation.

    The course page changes when something else has been added to a =
"gray" selected item, and not always the newly created item. For =
instance if you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it =
in the correct place, but it also changes the Course page display. See =
the above hyperlinked course.

    Why the difference between gray and blue? I never seem to have a =
problem when the item is "blue" selected.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---

    New Bugs:

    1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in =
the URL of Parquesoft.
    http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
    Wild World Wide Web?


    Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,

    BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ and all,

All the bugs you sent in this morning should be fixed, including the=20
Quiz bug and the menu items bug. The new version is available from:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.11.exe

Let me know if you're still seeing some of these issues!

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 29, 2004, at 10:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Kevino,
> =A0
>  =A0
> Suggestion:
> =A0
> This is an interface=A0suggestion probably to be implemented=A0for=A0the=
=20
> next version.
> =A0
> If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still=20
> available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are=20
> still available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items=20=

> are not available until a file (or in this case a course)=A0is open. =
Too=20
> picky?
> =A0
> =A0
> Bug:
> =A0
> In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have=20
> not typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page,=20=

> you can't even reopen the quiz page=A0and all you can do is "remove" =
the=20
> page from the outline.
> =A0
> =A0
>
> =A0More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:
> =A0
> This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray"=20
> selected=A0course page.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/
> =A0
> The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the=20=

> course page.
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:  BJ Cameron
> To: Kevin Ollivier
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ;=20
> Hju...@cs...
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one
>
> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> <<snip>>
>
> > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a=20
> course. I
> > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item.=20=

> The
> > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an=20=

> item to
> > the course level. However, when published or when the course is=20
> re-opened it
> > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I=20=

> mean.
> >
>  > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course=20=

> preview,
> > this causes even more problems.
> > Check out what happened to my course page:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
> >
> > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can=20
> get you a
> > more detailed explanation.
>
> The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray"=20=

> selected=A0item, and not always the newly created item.=A0For instance =
if=20
> you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the=20
> correct place, but it also=A0changes the Course page display. See the=20=

> above hyperlinked course.
> =A0
> Why the difference between gray and blue? I=A0never seem to have a=20
> problem when the item is "blue" selected.
> =A0
> =A0
> New Bugs:
> =A0
> 1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the=20=

> URL of Parquesoft.
> http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
> Wild World Wide Web?
> =A0
> =A0
> Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0

[Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Kevino,


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
=20
Suggestion:

This is an interface suggestion probably to be implemented for the next =
version.

If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still =
available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are still =
available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items are not =
available until a file (or in this case a course) is open. Too picky?


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Bug:

In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have not =
typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page, you =
can't even reopen the quiz page and all you can do is "remove" the page =
from the outline.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

 More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:

This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray" selected =
course page.
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/

The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the =
course page.

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: BJ Cameron=20
  To: Kevin Ollivier=20
  Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ; =
Hju...@cs...=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one


  Hi Kevino,

  <<snip>>

  > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a =
course. I
  > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. =
The
  > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an =
item to
  > the course level. However, when published or when the course is =
re-opened it
  > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I =
mean.
  >=20
  > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course =
preview,
  > this causes even more problems.
  > Check out what happened to my course page:
  > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
  >=20
  > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can =
get you a
  > more detailed explanation.

  The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray" =
selected item, and not always the newly created item. For instance if =
you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the =
correct place, but it also changes the Course page display. See the =
above hyperlinked course.

  Why the difference between gray and blue? I never seem to have a =
problem when the item is "blue" selected.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----

  New Bugs:

  1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the =
URL of Parquesoft.
  http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
  Wild World Wide Web?


  Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,

  BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

<<snip>>

> 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a =
course. I
> see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. The
> problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an =
item to
> the course level. However, when published or when the course is =
re-opened it
> is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I =
mean.
>=20
> You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course =
preview,
> this causes even more problems.
> Check out what happened to my course page:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
>=20
> Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can get =
you a
> more detailed explanation.

The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray" =
selected item, and not always the newly created item. For instance if =
you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the =
correct place, but it also changes the Course page display. See the =
above hyperlinked course.

Why the difference between gray and blue? I never seem to have a problem =
when the item is "blue" selected.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

New Bugs:

1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the =
URL of Parquesoft.
http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
Wild World Wide Web?


Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,

BJ

[Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Bug:
1. I am not able to create a new course in the newest version of EClass. I
have tried going through the opening window and the file menu, I get the
"New
Project Window", I type in a name, and Click "ok" and nothing happens. Tried
this both on a win98 and 2K machine.

2. Import file still can't use htm/html, but at least we are not losing the
"Page". All other files seem to be working fine in file import.

3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a course. I
see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. The
problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an item to
the course level. However, when published or when the course is re-opened it
is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I mean.

You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course preview,
this causes even more problems.
Check out what happened to my course page:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/

Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can get you a
more detailed explanation.

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] Re: Filenames and EClass and <<more>>


> Hi all,
>
> The latest version of EClass.Builder is available for download at:
>
> http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.10.exe
>
> It fixes the following issues:
>
> - File names can now no longer be more than 31 characters in order to
> resolve bugs with pages not getting created. Also, now when you create
> a new page, if you don't specify your own filename, EClass dynamically
> updates the filename to match the page name, up to the aforementioned
> 31 characters. You will see what I mean when you change the page name.
> ;-)
>
> - "Import File" should now be working properly.
>
> - EClass now is more intelligent about page selection. When no page is
> selected in the editor window, the Page menu becomes inaccessible and
> page-related toolbar icons gray out.  It also auto-selects the top page
> when you open a new EClass.
>
> - Presentations and search results should now open in new windows.
>
> If I don't hear of bugs in this version from BJ or anyone else in the
> next couple days, I'll add it to the EClass download page and I'll add
> a "Current Issues" note to inform people about potential issues with
> the EClass server when run from the hard drive. Hopefully
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Apr 27, 2004, at 4:33 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino
> >
> > <<snip>>
> > > How things are done is that the "Project Name" in the Open Project
> > > dialog is actually the folder name in the EClass Projects folder.
> > They
> > > get out of sync when one changes the "Course Name" in EClass,
> > because I
> > > do not automatically rename the folder as well. There are a few
> > > approaches to fixing this issue, and I was wondering what people
> >  > thought about them:
> > >
> > > 1) Rename the folder.
> > > 2) Create a "course" database.
> > > 3) Load the Course name into the open project dialog.
> > > 4) Leave things as they are. ;-)
> > > Please let me know what you all think about these changes!
> >
> >
> >
> > I vote for #4. The project name is superfluous to the course name, and
> > other options are a bit drastic and/or processor intensive. The latter
> > being detrimental to low-end users.
> >
> >
> >
> > Recap of recent issues:
> > 1. The new version of the EClass is working like a charm, although
> > there are still Dr. Watson problems with Win2k machines. This only
> > occurs when running the server from the harddrive. As this is an
> > "Instructor" only problem and has no other side effects other than an
> > annoying message, I vote adding a few lines to the help file and
> > calling it good. Thoughts?
> >
> >
> > 2. From an earlier email:
> > Sometimes, there is nothing selected in the left frame of the EClass
> > Builder, most notably after you re-open a course. However, you are
> > still
> > able to "add a new page" or "Import a file" using the "Page" menu at
> > the
> > top. The new page is then added as a "child" to the course level.
> > However,
> > if you preview/publish it, the new page becomes a "child" of the lowest
> > level in your course.
> >
> > My suggestion would be to not allow the user to add a page/import a
> > file
> > until something is selected in the Left Frame.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. Presentations are still opening in the main window
> >
> >
> > 4. Suggestion:
> > Would it be possible to open "search results" in a new window?
> > Granted, I have been trying things most people would not do, but if
> > you run into a page that has a loop or redirect it is next to
> > impossible to get back to the main Eclass window. Also, some pages
> > take forever to load in the main window, but are lightening fast if
> > opened in a new window.
> > For example: I included "IndexDir ./present" to my swishe.conf file to
> > index my html presentations. If it finds one of the "notes pages" or
> > frames it creates a loop that you can't get out of. Also the "notes
> > pages" take forever to load in the main window.
> >
> >
> > 5. Suggestion:
> > In the "page properties" of the"import file" window, the text area
> > for "page content" is grayed out. It would be more obvious if the
> > space was white. Still a problem in 2.5.4.9
> >
> > I am still no sure my "import file" is working correctly. I used this
> > feature to import an html page and all it will show is the "file"
> > directory contents. I have tried deleting this "page" from my TOC and
> > in the editor it is gone, but I preview it, the page is still there.
> > If close and re-open the course, there is now a line to this "page",
> > but nothing there for me to edit/remove.
> >
> > <<later>>
> > There are bugs with Import file:
> > 1. In the "page properties" of the "import file", it is possible to
> > click "ok" without specifying a name.
> > 2 It is possible to click "ok" without selecting a file.
> > 3. Importing HTML files does not work, often losing the "page name" in
> > the process.
> > 4. Sometimes, the file (gif, txt, jpg, avi, doc, pdf) will appear in
> > the "preview" window, but once you preview/publish, nothing appears in
> > IE. The name is gone and if you click on it, the "file" directory
> > contents are shown.
> > 5. I've noticed a lot of problems come when you select a file outside
> > of the "file directory". The file is getting copied in ok, but for
> > some reason it has problems displaying it. If up go back and select
> > the file from the "file" directory, it works. (case for #4).
> >
> > I'll keep working with the import file and see if I can find any other
> > patterns. After your last Email, you have convinced me it is a
> > worthwhile feature of EClass.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > BJ
>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] Re: Filenames and EClass and <<more>>

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

The latest version of EClass.Builder is available for download at:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.10.exe

It fixes the following issues:

- File names can now no longer be more than 31 characters in order to=20
resolve bugs with pages not getting created. Also, now when you create=20=

a new page, if you don't specify your own filename, EClass dynamically=20=

updates the filename to match the page name, up to the aforementioned=20
31 characters. You will see what I mean when you change the page name.=20=

;-)

- "Import File" should now be working properly.

- EClass now is more intelligent about page selection. When no page is=20=

selected in the editor window, the Page menu becomes inaccessible and=20
page-related toolbar icons gray out.  It also auto-selects the top page=20=

when you open a new EClass.

- Presentations and search results should now open in new windows.

If I don't hear of bugs in this version from BJ or anyone else in the=20
next couple days, I'll add it to the EClass download page and I'll add=20=

a "Current Issues" note to inform people about potential issues with=20
the EClass server when run from the hard drive. Hopefully

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 27, 2004, at 4:33 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino
> =A0
> <<snip>>
> > How things are done is that the "Project Name" in the Open Project
> > dialog is actually the folder name in the EClass Projects folder.=20
> They
> > get out of sync when one changes the "Course Name" in EClass,=20
> because I
> > do not automatically rename the folder as well. There are a few
> > approaches to fixing this issue, and I was wondering what people
>  > thought about them:
> >
> > 1) Rename the folder.=A0
> > 2) Create a "course" database.
> > 3) Load the Course name into the open project dialog.
> > 4) Leave things as they are. ;-)
> > Please let me know what you all think about these changes!
>
> =A0
>
> I vote for #4. The project name is superfluous to the course name, and=20=

> other options are a bit drastic and/or processor intensive. The latter=20=

> being detrimental to low-end users.
> =A0
>
> =A0
> Recap of recent issues:
> 1. The new version of the EClass is working like a charm, although=20
> there are still Dr. Watson problems with Win2k machines. This only=20
> occurs when running the server from the harddrive. As this is an=20
> "Instructor" only problem and has no other side=A0effects other than =
an=20
> annoying message, I vote adding a few lines to the help file and=20
> calling it good. Thoughts?
> =A0
> =A0
> 2. =46rom an earlier email:
> Sometimes, there is nothing selected in the left frame of the EClass
> Builder, most notably after you re-open a course. However, you are=20
> still
> able to "add a new page"=A0 or "Import a file" using the "Page" menu =
at=20
> the
> top. The new page is then added as a "child" to the course level.=20
> However,
> if you preview/publish it, the new page becomes a "child" of the =
lowest
> level in your course.
>
> My suggestion would be to not allow the user to add a page/import a=20
> file
> until something is selected in the Left Frame.
> =A0
>
>
> =A0
> 3. Presentations are still opening in the main window
> =A0
> =A0
> 4. Suggestion:
> Would it be possible to open "search results" in a new window?=20
> Granted, I have been trying things most people would not do, but if=20
> you run into a page that has a loop or redirect it is next to=20
> impossible to get back to the main Eclass window. Also, some pages=20
> take forever to load in the main window, but are lightening fast if=20
> opened in a new window.
> For example: I included "IndexDir ./present" to my swishe.conf file to=20=

> index my html presentations. If it finds one of the "notes pages" or=20=

> frames=A0it creates a loop that you can't get out of. Also the "notes=20=

> pages" take forever to load in the main window.
> =A0
> =A0
> 5. Suggestion:
> In the "page properties"=A0 of the"import file" window, the text area=20=

> for "page content" is grayed out. It would be more obvious if the=20
> space was white.=A0 Still a problem in 2.5.4.9
> =A0
> I am still no sure my "import file" is working correctly. I used this=20=

> feature to import an html page and all it will show is the "file"=20
> directory contents. I have tried deleting this "page" from my TOC and=20=

> in the editor it is gone, but I preview it, the page is still there.=20=

> If close and re-open the course, there is now a line to this "page",=20=

> but nothing there for me to edit/remove.
> =A0
> <<later>>
> There=A0are bugs with Import file:
> 1. In the "page properties" of the "import file", it is possible to=20
> click "ok" without specifying a name.
> 2=A0=A0It is possible to click "ok" without selecting a file.
> 3. Importing HTML files=A0does not work, often losing the "page name" =
in=20
> the process.
> 4. Sometimes, the file (gif, txt, jpg, avi, doc, pdf) will appear in=20=

> the "preview" window, but once you preview/publish, nothing appears in=20=

> IE. The name is gone and if you click on it, the "file" directory=20
> contents are shown.
> 5. I've noticed a lot of problems come when you select a file outside=20=

> of the "file directory". The file is getting copied in ok, but for=20
> some reason it has problems displaying it. If up go back and select=20
> the file from the "file" directory, it=A0works. (case for #4).
> =A0
> I'll keep working with the import file and see if I can find any other=20=

> patterns. After your last Email, you have convinced me it is a=20
> worthwhile=A0feature of=A0EClass.
> =A0
> Hope this helps,
> =A0
> BJ