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From: admin <os...@os...> - 2004-02-16 17:42:31
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From: Tulip T. <in...@tu...> - 2003-08-29 18:16:17
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Dear sourceforge.net, I run a web site called www.tuliptoys.co.uk. I wanted to let you know that I've just placed a link on my sites to sourceforge.net. Your link can found on our web sites at: http://www.tuliptoys.co.uk/link/links.htm & http://www.tuliptoys.com/link/links.htm I've used this text to link to your site: "DynAPI - Cross-Browser Dynamic HTML Library" This is the description I've used for your site: "DynAPI - Cross-Browser Dynamic HTML Library" Let me know if you want to change any of the details. All I ask is if possible can you put a link back to the following two sites: www.tuliptoys.co.uk www.tuliptoys.com Again, thank you very much for your great web site. regards, Mark www.tuliptoys.co.uk |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2003-05-13 13:29:41
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Well, if you want to take a shot at getting this project of ground you are more than welecome to do so. I'm afraid that pretty much everybody that once signed up have lost interest and forgot about it. Same more or less about the Dynapi itself I'm afraid as it seems (some enthusiasts still work at it though) I'd be there to support you, but I'm afraid I can't do much coding because of my lacking knowledge. However I'd do anything else I can contribute if you do want to take a shot, including giving you the access to the project you need. Maybe you'd want projectadministration right as you get into it. I'd doubt there be anybody to object to that? (but if you're still out there and have anything to say about it, please do so either on this list or to me personally) Anyways, if you'd like to dive into the scattered bits we have produced and assembled, just let me know. Welecome, and sorry for the late response... Henrik Våglin, Sweden --- neuroteknology <neu...@ho...> skrev: > This project sounds like a good idea.I've checked > out some dynapi code and > would love to help out in the development process. I > am fluent in c/c++, ms > visual c++, java, semi-fluent in javascript. If you > need a cool developer, > someone hit me up. > > neurotek > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo, June 4-6, > 2003, Santa Clara > The only event dedicated to issues related to Linux > enterprise solutions > www.enterpriselinuxforum.com > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapyide-developer mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapyide-developer ===== // Henrik Vaglin ************************************************** Visit my comics artpage at http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/hvaglin?d&.flabel=fld5&.src=bc ************************************************** _____________________________________________________ Gå före i kön och få din sajt värderad på nolltid med Yahoo! Express Se mer på: http://se.docs.yahoo.com/info/express/help/index.html |
From: neuroteknology <neu...@ho...> - 2003-05-10 02:53:35
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This project sounds like a good idea.I've checked out some dynapi code and would love to help out in the development process. I am fluent in c/c++, ms visual c++, java, semi-fluent in javascript. If you need a cool developer, someone hit me up. neurotek |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-07-09 09:17:02
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This is an article on how to use Rhino Javascript Engine, the one we will use as the core intepretor of the IDE application. Its been there a while, but its not outdated, so go have a look if you're interested: http://builder.cnet.com/webbuilding/0-7701-8-6280359-1.html?tag=st.bl.3882.dir1.7701-8-6280359-1 Henrik _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-07-05 10:56:16
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--- Mo...@sp... wrote: > > BTW, Henrik, how did you get on with this CVS stuff > and the mailing lists? > CVS was reset as per my supportrequest, but nothing happenening on the maillist-admin-password - I think SF is simply ignoring my case though its the only way to go. Dunno if we should move back to suing the forums or using some other mailist-service... BTW I'm setting up my own server with a IRC-server. I don't know much IRC but hopefully I'll be able to host an chat for project developers. Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-26 20:52:18
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--- Mo...@sp... skrev: > Henrik, > > > > >> Hello David! > >> > >> Am awaiting SF to fix my mailinglist > admin-password. > >> I'm aware of the mails you sent, but I need to > log in > >> to approve them. Until I do, not even I can check > it > >> out what it is you sent. > >> > > Nothing too urgent. Essentially a copy of the > message you already (should have) received with my > flight schedule and so on, and probably another > couple of tid bits. It would probably be a good idea > if we both maintained the Mailing list... > OK, still am getting it done, and should've long time ago. yes, you can get the admin paswword too one I have it. Even though Sweden didn't go all the way in WC with shared coachship, I really adapt to the concept :) > >> BTW: Also put a request for a clean CVS. > > Thanks. > I'm thinking cleaning out tasks might be good for future use. Think we might aim for this towards onScript() (ie codename for core 1.0 release mind you) > >> > >> BTW 2: Take a look at this page: > >> > >> http://pmng.sourceforge.net/ > > I have, and it looks very promissing. Can we give it > a shot? How do you upload stuff to the web page? > I used to use CuteFTP PRO, but I broke it unforunatly. Its one of the apps I've put up for imiedatly installation once I get the box reinstalled. Will also have a server at home, so I can keep testing the IDE both as local and appserver installed once we get that far into development. I'll see about having a IRC server for team-chats up and running on it... > >> > >> CVS made simpler and webbased!!! :) haven't tried > it > >> yet but I sure as just like the idea of it... > >> > >> Henrik > >> > > sorry to be asking all of this stupid stuff, but I > have never administered a full-blown sourceforge > site before and you can probably answer way before i > get any info from SF itself. ;) > Yep, I went through hell to get the knowledge I now have on using and admin projects on SF - and i'll share any info that can be of help of course... > BTW, I'm finishing a JsServer. Essentially i'm > wrapping Rhino into an Input/Output system, much > like a command prompt, so that calls can be made > with readln() (Will return a binary type, actually) > and println(). > > And I'm writing a simple console implementation in > Swing that will let us do some basic interaction. > Once the client/server is ready, we can create the > onLoad script and take it from there. > GREAT! JsServer and then classloader (which I BTW got a feeling is included in JRE 1.4, no?) and then we're actually go for some initial GUI building > Do you know who in the team is the best for UI > dessign? I can go a long way with Forte for java, > but it is extremely time consuming and I do tend toi > get everything in the wrong place in menu structures > and such. > Hmm, Javier was looking into it I remember. And Kevin should probably be able to handle the more advanced UI stuff I figure. That's if they're still around here lurking. The rest are welecome to let yourself known of your capabilities/interest in coding Rosie (ie codename for the GUI) If nobody else I'll take my first steps into coding Java myself, but I fear it will not be good for quality and pace... > BTW2: Get Forte for java. It will make life easier > if everyone uses the same tools for UI dessign... in > background stuff (non UI) you can use notepad if you > please, but for the UI itself we will all be better > off sticking with a java1.4 tool. > > dave. > I'd agree with you there. I'll look into Forte myself ASAP (ie after my box is reinstalled and steady) and would like it if everybody in the team would consider doing the same and at least let yourself be heard about the issue. Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-24 09:04:34
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Hello, since I understand some of our new subscribers is here mainly for news and updates, I thought I'd better keep at least a weekly update if nothing else. Anyone else want to report anything within the scope of project and developer activity are of course welecome to do so, as well as any subscriber ask valid question to the team. Anyways, I added Silvia Chiron to the team as mentor/consultant. To begin with I put her to the task to make something out of the current specs and possible begin with UML diagrams (which I myself never had any previous experience). Welecome Silvia to the team! According to the few answers on name for the app, it seems that a descriptive name is still much in crave and that people still can't accept that an endevoure of this sort goes before the task of serving them with docs. But why bother??? They don't use the docs there is anyways (I think its just lame altogether) BTW On a personal note, midsummer-celebrations is over for me, the alcohol is slowly leaving my body and I should be back on track in a day or 2... :) Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-21 02:24:21
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Chatted with Robert (Rainwater) on the upcoming DynAPI 2.9 and here's what he said on it: "The new api is very much like the old version from the outside. It uses more dynamic loading depending on the browser. The way widgets are included and themes are created has been standardized." Sounds entriguing no? Also very much like there's nothing much to wait for on integrating DynAPI into the IDE and we're still a bit away from the more detailed work on that integration, but its always good to know whats lieing ahead, no? Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-20 08:55:58
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OK, I undemocrately name the DynAPI <!--IDE--> 1.0 build: onScript() This is only the working name though. It is to be used something like this: "Towards onScript() we should have implemented full access to the Rhino parser..." The default DynAPI <!--IDE--> Java SWING GUI I set working name 'Rosie'. For example: "Rosie should be well-tested before the onScript() release" Any flame debate on my dictatorship on this issue will be considered, but only GOOD VALID REASONS will make me back down on this. After all its only working name so we know what we refer to. Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-19 22:51:06
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Raymond Irving <xw...@ya...> wrote: > > > > > a) What do you know about this project? > > This project is "suppose" to be a DynAPI IDE editor. > Well, that was the starting point yes! Thing is, that, DHTML crossbrowser libs seems to be popping up every here and there - and its hard to say that one lib fits all. And once this proect was once publicly announced - a lot of lib auhors started asking how have their lib (DynAPI clone or distribution) suppored by the IDE. From my POV, supporting one disto only would make the IDE old even before it would be stable enough. DynAPI will still be the lib we model on - ie default support for - but with general support for plugging in support for any other javascript library. > > b) What do you think this project is? > > Confusion! I hear talks about changing the name and > making it into a JavaScript editor. That's the > problem > with most open source project; they lack vision and > concentration! > Right and wrong I would say... Confusion in as how to work the dvelopment and actual coding. BUT the aims is more or less defined in the docs in the pre-alpha distro held by David (seconddevil). Myself am naibly going to aim my efforts on the forst, and David will be mastering the latter. though of course nobody is cut-off from anything. > > c) Do you have any expectations in particular with > > subscribing to the list? Any that have yet to be > > furfilled? > > I would like to see this DynAPI IDE editor more > geared > to supporting DynAPI2.9+ > Certainly! Hopefully 2.9 will arrive before we get into adjusting default lib-support in the IDE. You got any word on progress or release Raymond? > > d) Do you expect to be contributing to the > project? > > Why? > > Sure. I think it's a great way to help other create > DynAPI applications. > Great! Since the aim is that the component-binding will be done all in javascripts (onload script etc), your advanced scripting skill could come to use :) jesse crossley <cro...@po...> wrote: > > > > a) What do you know about this project? > > name only. that the intent is to provide a > development environment > for javascript and specifically, the DynAPI. > heh, we're in progress of changing name. hope you can catch up something else now before we do... :) > > b) What do you think this project is? > > umm, slow? stagnating? how long has it been active > anyway? > True, very true. I wasn't even with the team back when it was registered, but has been trying on and off to get the weels moving... However the project still develps for every roundup. hopefully this is the last time we will have to reviwe it to get going... > > c) Do you have any expectations in particular with > > subscribing to the list? Any that have yet to be > > furfilled? > > mainly just wanted to see what threads were being > generated > about the project. > OK, hope we can feed that curiousity foreover then! :) Thing is we've basicly just had a handful (or less) active members, so we have been communicating a lot off-list. Backtracking the mailing lis might not be that easy a task, so pleas ask anything you'd like to know more on at this list - david or me should be able to respond to most. > > d) Do you expect to be contributing to the > project? > > Why? > > i would like to, the same as i would like to > contribute to the DynAPI > (i have a massive Component architecture laid on top > of DynLayer, > using layouts, borders, and colorschemes. you can > check it out at > http://demo.polexis.com/gis -- login isn't checked, > just hit the button), > but i'm afraid it all belongs to my company. > Sounds great! We'll certainly benefit to add more value to the IDE with an extended widet-collection. We could all host our widgets within the context of the IDE, no? > > e) What are you're previous expeineces with Open > > Source projects? Can YOU do anything to help > > promote/prevent that? > > none save the dyn, and that's all been based on > usage. > not sure I follow you there... plz evaluate... > > d) What do you forsee as our biggest current > > woe's/prospects? > > -the sneakiness of the crossbrowser problems, > especially with the rise of ie6 > and moz > -the difficulty of dynamically doing anything any a > browser except ie > (i create many objects based on user interaction. > it's great in ie, but > sometimes takes > minutes in ns and moz...when i can prevent them from > crashing) > > That isn't reaaly within th scope of the IDE itself, but rather DynAPI issues in large. But of course, support goes back to the api, cause I'm all certain users will NOT be able to comprehand which is which... > that's all i've got for now. > i'm a very good java programmer, and have become a > relatively good javascript > hack. > if my talents can be utilized for this project, > please let me know what i can do > to help. > > > jesse crossley > Sounds like you should sync with Dave on the core system coding.' BTW I have a connect with a french lady ready to mentor on UML and architecture building & specification. BTW 2 Added the currently most recent specs to this mail. Hopefully it may be in help to get an overview of where the project is heading... Henrik (project manager & co-admin) _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: jesse c. <cro...@po...> - 2002-06-19 18:21:39
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> a) What do you know about this project? name only. that the intent is to provide a development environment for javascript and specifically, the DynAPI. > b) What do you think this project is? umm, slow? stagnating? how long has it been active anyway? > c) Do you have any expectations in particular with > subscribing to the list? Any that have yet to be > furfilled? mainly just wanted to see what threads were being generated about the project. > d) Do you expect to be contributing to the project? > Why? i would like to, the same as i would like to contribute to the DynAPI (i have a massive Component architecture laid on top of DynLayer, using layouts, borders, and colorschemes. you can check it out at http://demo.polexis.com/gis -- login isn't checked, just hit the button), but i'm afraid it all belongs to my company. > e) What are you're previous expeineces with Open > Source projects? Can YOU do anything to help > promote/prevent that? none save the dyn, and that's all been based on usage. > d) What do you forsee as our biggest current > woe's/prospects? -the sneakiness of the crossbrowser problems, especially with the rise of ie6 and moz -the difficulty of dynamically doing anything any a browser except ie (i create many objects based on user interaction. it's great in ie, but sometimes takes minutes in ns and moz...when i can prevent them from crashing) that's all i've got for now. i'm a very good java programmer, and have become a relatively good javascript hack. if my talents can be utilized for this project, please let me know what i can do to help. jesse crossley |
From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2002-06-19 17:15:49
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--- Henrik Våglin <hv...@ya...> wrote: > I want to take the opportuinity to welecome our new > list-memebers: Very welecome! > > Now, we are a bit curious about what your > preferences > are, so it be nice of you to let us know some or all > of the following: > > a) What do you know about this project? This project is "suppose" to be a DynAPI IDE editor. > b) What do you think this project is? Confusion! I hear talks about changing the name and making it into a JavaScript editor. That's the problem with most open source project; they lack vision and concentration! > c) Do you have any expectations in particular with > subscribing to the list? Any that have yet to be > furfilled? I would like to see this DynAPI IDE editor more geared to supporting DynAPI2.9+ > d) Do you expect to be contributing to the project? > Why? Sure. I think it's a great way to help other create DynAPI applications. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-19 10:54:52
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I want to take the opportuinity to welecome our new list-memebers: Very welecome! Now, we are a bit curious about what your preferences are, so it be nice of you to let us know some or all of the following: a) What do you know about this project? b) What do you think this project is? c) Do you have any expectations in particular with subscribing to the list? Any that have yet to be furfilled? d) Do you expect to be contributing to the project? Why? e) What are you're previous expeineces with Open Source projects? Can YOU do anything to help promote/prevent that? d) What do you forsee as our biggest current woe's/prospects? Answer all or none as you would ...please :) Henrik Vaglin, project manager and co-admin _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-19 10:40:55
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--- mos...@cr... wrote: > > Being the coward I am, I'll go with whatever the > mayority of the project developers want. > If that's beeing a coward, I'm a coward too! Moooooooooooooo > Some suggestions: > DIY Javascript editor > DIY IDE > JsEdit > DynEdit > JsIDE > Open JS > <!-- IDE --> > JSE > JIDE > chill > diyned > How about these (with slogan)? * Azrael - the mean-lean-client-side-scripting-machine (from hell) * Bugtoaster - was raised in the crossbrowser DHTML hood * onScript() - eventful journey into client-side scripting * Razor - cutting-edge client-scripting * rosie - under the hood babe * Arthur - client-scripting as an art * Sexy - my little scripting flirt on-the-site > most of which are crap... but brainstorming is > brainstorming. > just keeping with the flow :D > BTW, did you all get the code I sent? what do you > think? > > david. > still not able to evalute it on my #%¤&/? box :(( _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <mar...@ya...> - 2002-06-19 09:21:54
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Hi, all. I'm able to draw a line on my dinamic layer: . . . canvas=new Graphics(layer); canvas.drawLine(x1,y1,x2,y2); . . . Ok, works fine. But, how can I delete the line?. I've been trying: "canvas.clear();" doesn't work :( "canvas._dlyr.deleteAllChildren()"; doesn't work :( "canvas._dlyr.setHTML('')"; doesn't work :( Can anybody help me, please? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-17 22:09:30
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I'm so fed up with all pople thinking our project is the reason the DynAPI Lib is standing still. I really think we should abondon any name that refers to the DynAPI. I was hoping we could join the cause of the Bebop Web Editor under their name in thei unused project facilities, but they haven't responded in any way yet... (BTW Bebop WE is not afflicted in any way with the Bebop framework) Since the Dynapyide is rather a mess anyways I suggest we create an all new project on SourceForge under an new project name not refering so much to DynAPi name-wise in any way... What do you all think? Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-13 09:23:40
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Hey!!! A very big welecome to new guy (uhm err did I miss the name - sorry I'm so distracted) - I'll get that straight once we see what you can do :) AND Kevin!!! nice to see you back!!! Your re-enntrance made my mind get rolling a bit... :) Actually we've decided to adapt an componentbased architectural approch and to differ out GUI from the core system. I have 3 specs done that outline this, but I think the best thing is if you get the whole pre-alpha package from David, which include these. I've mainly learnt about CBD (Component Based Design) and COP (Compoinent oriented Programming) from the Apache Jakarta/Avalon project ( http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/index.html ), but has also taken up a contact with the Bebop - which is a framework for transparently integrate Javabeans and EJB technology as components - project developer. The thing is Avalon is basicly a framework for servers and Bebop ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/bebop ) is transisational between desktop and server, while the previous is way more documented and in use than the latter one that didn't even was published till we notified the author. Please research which one best serves our purpous once you've read the specs if you would... concerning the DTD's I'm a bit curious why you think we would need DTD'd for the scripting languages? I'm not so well-researched on these yet, so maybe I missed something, but isn't DTD's only for Markup languages? Or maybe you have an brilliant idea that I haven't figured, please explain further... BTW I'm, a purist and I say we simply download every DTD on W3C from the HTML 3.2 and later. Keep as close as possible to the most de facto standard source unless they're way to much overdue or lacks something in particular. concerning what is the core of the application I'd rather say a Javascript Parser AKA Mozilla Rhino wrapped up as a component. I'd say the XML parser is of course the natural second. My view is this way: - ECMA/Javascript is the glue between the components and everything with the application is initiated by a loading script. For the application to even start the Javascript parser is crucial. - XML is used for static settings and for making the the core functionality of the documents DOM handling. (You see I'm all with you on using XML for the DOM techniques outliners) I admit this is nowhere in the specs yet, but belive me: I have the thoughts clear on this - its all in the target audiance best interest. I can't look much at the source right now. I'm having big diffuculties with getting JRE to run on my current installation or even to reinstall it - I'm working as fast as I can to make sure my upcomming clean boot installation will be as simple as possible in advance. But anyways, I'm not much of a advanced code guy, so maybe your lucky that I can't mess with it :P. I'll continue the specs wrtiting meantime and leave the coding solely to you others. (currently reading my eyes out on XML, DTD's and parsers - I'm living and breathing it soon ;) Please take a look at http://xml.apache.org if you will. I went through W3C looking for their official Java implementations of DOM parsers, and via Sourceforge actually come to the conclution that any such source has been moved to Apache. ECS and Xerxes-J looks like well worth for reuse I think (but I'm still not the coding expert here) I hopefully will havre more on this by the end of the weekend. it all depends on the swedish teams advancements in the FIFA WC :P Henrik _____________________________________________________ Följ VM på nära håll på Yahoo!s officielle VM-sajt www.yahoo.se/vm2002 Håll dig ajour med nyheter och resultat, med vinnare och förlorare... |
From: <ks...@ho...> - 2002-06-13 04:18:24
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Here's a list of XML DTD's we need - some of these can be found and = others will have to be created by us. HTML.DTD XHTML.DTD DYNAPI.DTD JAVASCRIPT.DTD DOM.DTD any others I left out should be added. |
From: Kevin D. <one...@ho...> - 2002-06-13 04:08:21
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Sorry for the long absence but was in a tornado of work and projects since September. Been in the dark working my ass off for backend web systems. Once again I can spare some time for this project. I've kept up on all the messages but am not sure where everything stands - where we are and where this project has started heading towards since I hear alot about EJB and Bebop? Since I don't know exactly where everyone is I'll start at where I left off which was the beginning. Let's keep the Class specs but let's now focus what should be the heart of this app. I think an XML parser should be the center of this program since it will provide us with the ability to parse the HTML - XML - and get into the nitty gritty of parsing the Javascript code. The XML parser also fits in nicely with the ability of this program to be easily updated and actually personalized. I mean by this is that we can create XML Docs that spell out the HTML 4.+ specifications so they can be easily altered if the specification changes - an XML Doc to spec the DynAPI so it can be easily altered when it changes - Javascript Specs in XML format - and even an XML doc so the users can create there own Code Libraries. All of this will be done by XML DTD's that will be parsed by the XML parser. The program will of course autogenerate the XML code and a GUI will be used to alter specs. This way we don't have to hard code the specs of any of these things and the program will run off of the DTD's and we can change the XML docs easily whenever the specs or versions change. Here's the XML parser written in java - open source. (files attached) Kevin D. ks...@ho... |
From: <dm...@td...> - 2002-06-12 11:31:51
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Looks like we have a new developer joining in, so I suggest we use this mailing list as our main communication again instead of direct emails. BTW, what do you think of the stuff I sent you. I know its pretty crude at the moment, but it will improve. I have also added another 3 images to the splash screen and am still working on the Class Loader and wrappers for Rhino, ECS, Bebop, etc. David. |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-06-06 13:09:20
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OK, first my biggest and most gentle excuses for my very long absence - in presence but not in mind though. My stay at the hospital, the lovely summer heat we've had here the last couple of WEEKS (sweat!) and of course the Soccer WC (probably shouldn't go further into that one considering our split loyalties - but there is still hopes for us both :P ) got to me and I just have to admit I had to get my priorities sorted.=20 Now I'm trying to get enough grip of how Bebop works to know what to ask Tim about it. I'm far from sure Bebop is the right framework. I do like the idea of reusing Sun's JavaBeans and EJB's (although EJB still seem like overkill yet), on the other hand they're not Open Source and I'm a bit of a purist - not for the sake itself but rather for any future issues. Any thoughts on that? Anyways, David, did you get the 3 RTF-files AMBITION.RTF, ARCITECT.RTF & DEFINIT.RTF and did you mean you have them spellchecked? Purist I said. Well, as long as possible I think we should stick to existing and defacto standards - especially W3C's.=20 For example I propose we aim to use XML as grounding for all Documents and then DTD's to format them for the various HTML, XHTML and XML variants - XML is after all specified to be general and edxtensible to cover all these markup languages(going as far back as to SGML seems oldish and overkill too). By that the only DOM we need to have inbuilt support for is the latest XML DOM I figure (and having a good DTD-compatible validating parser). And any thinkering I've done leads that the most genral common thing for thequniques we want to cover with DynAPI <!-- IDE --> is the DOM. My research leaveas that any middleware done in Java that were initiated by W3C on a DOM parser ended up within the Apache Java/Jakarta projects. By that, what would you feel is the most urging specification to get down in writing? Being a bit distracted away from what I was at, I kind of lost the track on what's next. OK, mainly just wanted to give a lifesign and that I'm still onto working further with the project. I don't expect myself to have much to do with the coding of the inner workings of the IDE("the core" system), but rather to get working on the a bit with a default GUI if any coding. Henrik > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr=E5n: Mo...@sp... [mailto:Mo...@sp...]=20 > Skickat: den 19 maj 2002 12:37 > Till: henrik v=E5glin > =C4mne: RE: Beebop >=20 >=20 > Henrik, >=20 > I can read rtf alright, don't worry. >=20 > For the time being I have been doing a quick splashscreen for=20 > the IDE. I decided to start checking out all this javaBeans=20 > stuff, so I'm turning it into one at the moment. >=20 > Hows your trip going? hope you have a good time. >=20 > BTW, I have the bebop source now... at work (yeah, right very=20 > useful...) and been looking at it. It certainly looks=20 > impressive, but i could do with a bit more documentation than=20 > the javadocs i produced... >=20 > probably for the proper release tim will have done some. >=20 > take care, >=20 > david. >=20 > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GCS/CC/IT/L/MU/P/S/AT d? s++: a-- C+++ U--- P+ L E-- W+++ N++=20 > o+ K? w+++=20 > O? M V? PS+++ PE-- Y+ PGP- t+ 5 X+ R tv+ b+++ DI+++ D G e++=20 > h! r y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Personalised email by http://another.com >=20 |
From: <hv...@ya...> - 2002-05-16 09:15:27
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Well, I reponded to him to send it to one of my other emailaccounts since he had troubles sending it top me on my regular Yahoo! mail and also to the list. I'll forward it as soon as I've got it´. Otherwise I'll say we go with Avalon and download the Avalon framework to begin coding from. you could start reading the docs and papers found on the Avalon page, cause most of what it talks about there will influence upon our application wheter we go with it or not. Henrik --- dir...@ba... skrev: > My thoughts have been going in pretty much the same > direction. Let me know when you get the beebop > source to have a look at. I will be mailing the > beebop guy to see if he can put the source in an FTP > server or some other usable medium. > > let me know where/when you would like the serious > coding to start. > > dave > > -----Original Message----- > From : > dyn...@li... > To : dyn...@li... > Date : 15 May 2002 20:10:47 > Subject : Dynapyide-developer digest, Vol 1 #78 - 1 > msg > Send Dynapyide-developer mailing list submissions to > > dyn...@li... > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapyide-developer > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > dyn...@li... > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > dyn...@li... > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > >than Re: Contents of Dynapyide-developer > digest... > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Just to lety you know... > (=?iso-8859-1?q?Henrik=20V=E5glin?=) > > > >--__--__-- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:38:32 +0200 (CEST) > >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Henrik=20V=E5glin?= > <hv...@ya...> > >To: dyn...@li... > >Subject: [Dynapyide-developer] Re: Just to lety you > know... > > > >OK, great... > > > >Myself being off-site, having a hard time even > getting > >hold off a internet-connected machine. > > > >Anyways, to get down to buisness I will hand you > some > >off my thoughts: > > > >I think we should separate the (default) GUI build > >from the application System build. I have sketched > >this out as Presentation Layer and System layer. > > > >Presentation Layer is simple a GUI and it should > most > >probably always reside on the users client machine > (ie > >the desktop machine). > >The default one (which we include in a > distribution) > >we build on SWING as JavaBeans, as of the Java 1.4 > SE > >branch. No need to involve any other frameworks > there > >than what users already have in the their default > >installed JRE, plus that visual JavaBeans can also > be > >visually customized by the user in something called > >BeansBox - without coding. > > > >System layer consists of 2 sublayers: Buisness > Layer > >and Data Layer. These 2 should be able to put on > any > >machines from the client itself to any distributing > >java-enabled server. > > > >The Buisness layer is where the application do all > >processing, managing and handling of data according > >too their datatypes (more on that in a more > detailed > >spec later). > > > >The Data Layer consists of the raw data: HTML, XML, > >javascript, cionfiguration and any other files used > or > >handled by the application. > > > >For the Buisness Layer we need to decide on wheter > we > >want Apache Avalon (the stronger candidate - see > >http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/index.html ) or > use > >the Bebop framework (another SourceForge project - > >fairly newly begun; you'll recive the sources to > >review soon). > > > >For parsing of HTML/XML (our default DOM parser) we > >could consider making the Apache Jakarta ECS > (Element > >Construction Set - see > >http://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/index.html ). > > > >As previous planned we'll use Mozilla.org's Rhino > for > >Javascript parsing (and possibly rendering too) - > >unless anyone object of course ;) > > > >With those and other Open Source projects > applications > >and utilities put into components, I think we can > pull > >this off without too much of a chore. > > > >As always: If you have any ideas, comments or > >objections - don't hesitate to share them... > > > >Henrik > > > >_____________________________________________________ > >Yahoo! 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