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From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-26 15:46:31
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you can only call dynapi.document.getWidth/Height after that page has been loaded -- Raymond Irving --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote: > This solution dont work for me, am i doing something > wrong, or are you > completly sure? > > Try to make: > alert(dynapi.document.getWidth()): > After adding all childs ie: > > <body bgcolor="#000738" style="overflow:hidden" > topmargin="0" > leftmargin="0"> > <script> > dynapi.document.insertAllChildren(); > alert(dynapi.document.getWidth()): > </script> > </body> > > This dont work for me... > > Regards > Daniel > > -----Original Message----- > From: dyn...@li... > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On > Behalf Of Doug > Melvin > Sent: den 21 oktober 2003 17:41 > To: dyn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Width and Height > > > dynapi.document.getWidth() > dynapi.document.getHeight() > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "António Godinho" <to...@ma...> > To: <dyn...@li...> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:59 AM > Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Width and Height > > > > Hya, > > > > Been trying to get size of a document. On the old > version 2.5.7 it was > > > document.getWidth, document.getHeight I think. I > wasn't able to make > > this work now. Any help? > > > > Thanx > > > > Tó > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer > relations Here's your > > > chance to show off your extensive product > knowledge We want to know > > what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to > win $100 > > > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Help mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release > Date: 10/16/03 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer > relations Here's your > chance to show off your extensive product knowledge > We want to know what > you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net > Donation Program. > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the > Open > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us > add new > features and functionality. Click here: > http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ |
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From: Arijit D. <ad...@pr...> - 2003-10-25 18:37:22
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Hi all,
I was able to work around by problem by using the onresize event.
I do have a new question, which I think may be more important than the
last: the onContentChange expample uses an event listener. I thought
event listeners were supposed to be deprecated? Is there another way I
should be performing the same function?
Thanks,
Arijit
Arijit Das wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just started learning dynapi 3.0 (from 2.5.7) and I'm trying to get my
> bearings. I've been reading the documentation (greatly improved since
> 2.5.7), but there is something I can't figure out:
>
> Now that the onload event has been changed and event listeners have been
> deprecated, how do I time something to when a loadpanel finishes loading?
>
> I've tried
>
> lp.onLoad(foo);
> function foo () {
> //do some stuff;
> }
>
> where lp is the loadpanel. I've tried putting that code in the init
> function, where init is called by dynapi.onLoad(init), and I've tried
> putting it outside of the init function. Neither works.
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated, as always!
>
> Thanks,
> Arijit
>
>
>
>
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From: Arijit D. <ad...@pr...> - 2003-10-25 08:13:35
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Hi All,
I just started learning dynapi 3.0 (from 2.5.7) and I'm trying to get my
bearings. I've been reading the documentation (greatly improved since
2.5.7), but there is something I can't figure out:
Now that the onload event has been changed and event listeners have been
deprecated, how do I time something to when a loadpanel finishes loading?
I've tried
lp.onLoad(foo);
function foo () {
//do some stuff;
}
where lp is the loadpanel. I've tried putting that code in the init
function, where init is called by dynapi.onLoad(init), and I've tried
putting it outside of the init function. Neither works.
Any help is greatly appreciated, as always!
Thanks,
Arijit
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From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-25 00:48:20
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This solution dont work for me, am i doing something wrong, or are you completly sure? Try to make:=20 alert(dynapi.document.getWidth()): After adding all childs ie: <body bgcolor=3D"#000738" style=3D"overflow:hidden" topmargin=3D"0" leftmargin=3D"0"> <script> dynapi.document.insertAllChildren(); alert(dynapi.document.getWidth()): </script> </body> This dont work for me... Regards Daniel -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Doug Melvin Sent: den 21 oktober 2003 17:41 To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Width and Height dynapi.document.getWidth() dynapi.document.getHeight() ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Ant=F3nio Godinho" <to...@ma...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:59 AM Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Width and Height > Hya, > > Been trying to get size of a document. On the old version 2.5.7 it was > document.getWidth, document.getHeight I think. I wasn't able to make=20 > this work now. Any help? > > Thanx > > T=F3 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your > chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know=20 > what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100=20 > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li...=20 > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/16/03 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Help mailing list Dyn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2003-10-21 15:53:34
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dynapi.document.getWidth() dynapi.document.getHeight() ----- Original Message ----- From: "António Godinho" <to...@ma...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:59 AM Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Width and Height > Hya, > > Been trying to get size of a document. On the old version 2.5.7 > it was document.getWidth, document.getHeight I think. I wasn't able to > make this work now. Any help? > > Thanx > > Tó > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations > Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge > We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/16/03 |
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From: <to...@ma...> - 2003-10-21 10:34:48
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Hya, Been trying to get size of a document. On the old version 2.5.7 it was document.getWidth, document.getHeight I think. I wasn't able to make this work now. Any help? Thanx T=F3 |
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From: Clemens E. <lin...@we...> - 2003-10-21 02:01:31
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Hi there! I had a look about dynapi support and konqueror and there are the following problems: * absolutly no documentation (about class-libraries) available * no javascript console (this will be added with kde 3.2) Hmm.... lg Clemens |
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From: Brian H. <bg...@ke...> - 2003-10-17 21:36:49
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I will check that out.. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Raymond Irving Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:35 PM To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Interesting things noticed.. Maybe it has something to do with the zoom in and out functions. Maybe some tight looping issues. -- Raymond Irving --- Brian Hayes <bg...@ke...> wrote: > I have been testing > http://www.keyout.com/keyout/test.cfm and in some > situations, nothing is displayed, and no errors are > reported.. I believe > this is an IE only error, but weird.. However, all > tests that I have done, > IE 5.0,5.5,etc.. and NS 6,7,7.1, and Modzilla > (latest) version all work with > out issue.. Not sure if it could be a configuration > issue or not.. Just > thought I would put this out there and see what > everyone thinks.. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email sponsored by: Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo The Event For Linux Datacenter Solutions & Strategies in The Enterprise Linux in the Boardroom; in the Front Office; & in the Server Room http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Help mailing list Dyn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-17 20:36:16
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Maybe it has something to do with the zoom in and out functions. Maybe some tight looping issues. -- Raymond Irving --- Brian Hayes <bg...@ke...> wrote: > I have been testing > http://www.keyout.com/keyout/test.cfm and in some > situations, nothing is displayed, and no errors are > reported.. I believe > this is an IE only error, but weird.. However, all > tests that I have done, > IE 5.0,5.5,etc.. and NS 6,7,7.1, and Modzilla > (latest) version all work with > out issue.. Not sure if it could be a configuration > issue or not.. Just > thought I would put this out there and see what > everyone thinks.. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Brian H. <bg...@ke...> - 2003-10-17 19:25:17
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I have been testing http://www.keyout.com/keyout/test.cfm and in some situations, nothing is displayed, and no errors are reported.. I believe this is an IE only error, but weird.. However, all tests that I have done, IE 5.0,5.5,etc.. and NS 6,7,7.1, and Modzilla (latest) version all work with out issue.. Not sure if it could be a configuration issue or not.. Just thought I would put this out there and see what everyone thinks.. |
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From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-17 18:51:31
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Hello Everyone, Ever wanted to search files without using server-side coding? Well now you can with the new FileReader Class library. Please see attached zip file. It contains the updated FileReader and the demo.filesearch.html demo file Have fun!!! Any comments? -- Raymond Irving __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Clemens E. <Lin...@we...> - 2003-10-17 05:48:24
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HI there! > I can't speak to this, but it would require someone with knowledge of > Konqueror (or ability to figure it out on-the-fly), and a Linux system > running an X-server (or remote access to a Linux system and X-server via= > XWin32 or VNC). I'd be good for supplying the Linux access, except my > upload bandwidth is only 10k and might not be good for VNC, but XWin32 > should probably work, although I never tested so I'd be curious to see h= ow > things worked. Would definitely be receptive to talking over the finer > details off list or in IM if we go to a testing stage. As it stands now= I > don't have X running on a box, but shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Of course I=B4ve Konqueror because I=B4m a Linux/KDE3 user, but I dont use it = for gerneral browsing. However some people do, and with Safari the number will grow :-( As far as I know, KDE3 is also available for windows-users, via the cygwin= package. lg Clemens =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F Horoskop, Comics, VIPs, Wetter, Sport und Lotto im WEB.DE Screensaver1.2 Kostenlos downloaden: http://screensaver.web.de/=3Fmc=3D021110 |
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From: Clemens E. <Lin...@we...> - 2003-10-17 05:38:58
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Hi there! > Is Konqueror based on the mozilla core or on its own home grown one=3F >=20 > I assume home grown or we'd just use an additional check in the UA to > mark it as DOM, yes=3F Konquerors HTML/JS engine is home grown and the bad thing is, its api is s= omewhere between Mozilla and IE. I=B4ll have a look, maybe I can tinker a bit with its api..... A second problem is, that I wasent able to find api-docs for the class-lib= raries :-( lg Clemens =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F Horoskop, Comics, VIPs, Wetter, Sport und Lotto im WEB.DE Screensaver1.2 Kostenlos downloaden: http://screensaver.web.de/=3Fmc=3D021110 |
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From: Clemens E. <Lin...@we...> - 2003-10-17 05:38:22
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Hi there! > Is Konqueror based on the mozilla core or on its own home grown one=3F >=20 > I assume home grown or we'd just use an additional check in the UA to > mark it as DOM, yes=3F Konquerors HTML/JS engine is home grown and the bad thing is, its api is s= omewhere between Mozilla and IE. I=B4ll have a look, maybe I can tinker a bit with its api..... A second problem is, that I wasent able to find api-docs for the class-lib= raries :-( lg Clemens =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F Horoskop, Comics, VIPs, Wetter, Sport und Lotto im WEB.DE Screensaver1.2 Kostenlos downloaden: http://screensaver.web.de/=3Fmc=3D021110 |
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From: Bruce T. <blu...@ya...> - 2003-10-16 21:28:29
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Is Konqueror based on the mozilla core or on its own home grown one? I assume home grown or we'd just use an additional check in the UA to mark it as DOM, yes? --- Leif W <war...@us...> wrote: > Hello! > > I've taken the P.S. out of the other email and started a new thread. > This > is so it doesn't get buried in the mailing list archives. :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Clemens Eisserer" <lin...@we...> > > To: <dyn...@li...> > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Simple communication questions... > > > > > PS2: How hard would it eventuelle be to port Dynapi-3 to > Konqueror3? > > How long did it take to port dynapi to opera7? > > However I use Mozzi, I think its more important to support > Konqueror > > than NS4, because the number us NS4-users decreases every day. > > With Safari + Konqueror many users will use the KHTML-engine > althought > > its not my taste... > > I can't speak to this, but it would require someone with knowledge of > Konqueror (or ability to figure it out on-the-fly), and a Linux > system > running an X-server (or remote access to a Linux system and X-server > via > XWin32 or VNC). I'd be good for supplying the Linux access, except > my > upload bandwidth is only 10k and might not be good for VNC, but > XWin32 > should probably work, although I never tested so I'd be curious to > see how > things worked. Would definitely be receptive to talking over the > finer > details off list or in IM if we go to a testing stage. As it stands > now I > don't have X running on a box, but shouldn't be too hard to figure > out. > > Leif > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help ===== www.bluewolverine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Bruce T. <blu...@ya...> - 2003-10-16 21:26:45
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Push to make Konqueror DOM compliant. ;-) --- Clemens Eisserer <lin...@we...> wrote: > > PS2: How hard would it eventuelle be to port Dynapi-3 to Konqueror3? > How long did it take to port dynapi to opera7? > However I use Mozzi, I think its more important to support Konqueror > than NS4, because the number us NS4-users decreases every day. > With Safari + Konqueror many users will use the KHTML-engine > althought > its not my taste... > ===== www.bluewolverine.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2003-10-16 21:23:23
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Hello! I've taken the P.S. out of the other email and started a new thread. This is so it doesn't get buried in the mailing list archives. :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Clemens Eisserer" <lin...@we...> > To: <dyn...@li...> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Simple communication questions... > > PS: Is there a efficient way to add html to a dynlayer, instead of: > strold = dynLayer.getHTML(); > dynLayer.setHTML(strold+strnew); This I'm not sure of. Could we maybe add methods appendHTML and prependHTML? It might be too much, but I start thinking of my experience with the autocompletion code, and using DOM text ranges. This way you could position a "cursor" within the string and insert or delete text at that point. Maybe such functionality is there by using existing JavaScript string methods directly on dynLyr.html, but this may be bad form, as it's probably best to leave it as semi-private data? > PS2: How hard would it eventuelle be to port Dynapi-3 to Konqueror3? > How long did it take to port dynapi to opera7? > However I use Mozzi, I think its more important to support Konqueror > than NS4, because the number us NS4-users decreases every day. > With Safari + Konqueror many users will use the KHTML-engine althought > its not my taste... I can't speak to this, but it would require someone with knowledge of Konqueror (or ability to figure it out on-the-fly), and a Linux system running an X-server (or remote access to a Linux system and X-server via XWin32 or VNC). I'd be good for supplying the Linux access, except my upload bandwidth is only 10k and might not be good for VNC, but XWin32 should probably work, although I never tested so I'd be curious to see how things worked. Would definitely be receptive to talking over the finer details off list or in IM if we go to a testing stage. As it stands now I don't have X running on a box, but shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Leif |
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From: Clemens E. <lin...@we...> - 2003-10-16 20:58:44
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Hi there!
> I've spend serveral hours looking into the push/pull
> (pushlet) solution and must say that I have managed to
> get a working prototype of the server-side push
> feature.
Wow, great!
> I think it's possible that dynapi will be able to
> support both Push and/or Pull functionality. It's
> still a far way off and requires a lot of time to
> think through the design of the system (only if I had
> a full time dynapi job :)
>
> In short I think it will be as simple as adding an
> event listener to a dynobject:
>
> io.addEventListener({
> onserver_someventhere : function(e,s) {
> // some code here
> },
> onserver_anothereventhere : function(e,s) {
> // some code here
> }
> });
>
> With this technology we could use ioelement with any
> webserver or server-side language to implement the
> push and/or pull requests
>
> With the push method the client is notified whenever
> the server invokes or raises an event:
>
> ws_invokeEvent('someeventhere')
> ...
> ws_invokeEvent('anothereventhere')
To implement the whole thing with EvenListeners is a good idea in my
eyes. It would keep the whole thing simple and tell the client that
something happend and the client can act is needed.
> The Push/Pull technique should work with all supported
> web browsers. The API will handle all the technical
> details so the user only have to listen in for an
> event from the server.
>
> What do you think?
I dont know if you´re asking me or someone different.
However, I think its really great!
This would enable JS-developers to ship arround one of the biggest
problems when using javascript for interactive-multiuser-stuff: The
bidirectional communication.
Of couse, the current implementation isnt really bidirectional, because
it forces the client to act, when the server tells the client to do
something, but it keeps things simple and allows the js-programmer to do
the same thing like with "real" bidirectional communication.
Really great, dynapi rocks so much!
lg Clemens
PS: Is there a efficient way to add html to a dynlayer, instead of:
strold = dynLayer.getHTML();
dynLayer.setHTML(strold+strnew);
PS2: How hard would it eventuelle be to port Dynapi-3 to Konqueror3?
How long did it take to port dynapi to opera7?
However I use Mozzi, I think its more important to support Konqueror
than NS4, because the number us NS4-users decreases every day.
With Safari + Konqueror many users will use the KHTML-engine althought
its not my taste...
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From: Brian H. <bg...@ke...> - 2003-10-16 11:52:42
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Hey guys, ColdFusion MX and compiled Perl code via Activestate.. I love using compiled Perl code, as it allows me to write CGI applications that do not require my ISP to have perl and/or supporting modules. ColdFusion MX, is great because it is easy, and supported on any major platform. Brian Hayes -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Leif W Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:45 PM To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Simple communication questions... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Simple communication questions... Not so simple afterall I guess. :-) Good thing we had this discussion, lot of good things coming out of it. > We don't need Java or a plugin on the browser. All > that we need is JavaScript. That all that there is to > it. nothing more nothing less :) You're going to need some server side scripting, right? That may be true if you're running on an IIS server with ASP with JScript support. But for Apache, you're going to need other languages like Perl, PHP, Java, TCL, C, C++, etc. I'll help where I can of course, and if there's any other's out there by all means lend a hand. :) > Trust me I believe it all posible only it I can find > the time to get started. Any way we can adopt any of the work that was already done with the Pushlet project, and just port it over to different languages? Even if we just started with the object model and designed our code after that, or something. Just not to reinvent the wheel if possible. Leif > -- > Raymond Irving > > > > --- Cristian Grigoriu <cri...@pr...> > > > ... provided the user has the Java Runtime > > Environment (JRE aka JVM - > > Java Virtual Machine, the bytecode interpreter) > > installed and enabled in > > browser. As you know, Microsoft no longer ships a > > JVM with Windows, it > > has to be downloaded from Sun website and installed. > > The user might not > > be able to do it (not having administrative rights, > > company software > > policy, bandwidth limitations). > > > > A Java applet opening a TCP connection back to the > > server will fail if > > the user is behind a firewall (only allowing > > connections to certain > > ports, 80 and 443 for example) or behind a (socks) > > proxy. The HTTP > > protocol, as Leif said, is stateless (well, sort of, > > if not using > > keep-alives) meaning the browser makes a request, > > the server responds > > then the connection is closed. > > > > >>The API will handle all the technical > > >>details so the user only have to listen in for an > > >>event from the server. > > >>What do you think? > > > > Why not using asynchronous techniques, for instance > > polling a dynamic > > server page (PHP/ASP/JSP/CGI), writing the result in > > an iFrame or hidden > > frame? > > > > I would stay away from Java as much as possible. > > > > >>Raymond Irving > > > Leif > > > > Grig > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback > > Program. > > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source > > Projects. > > See the people who have HELPED US provide better > > services: > > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Help mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Help mailing list Dyn...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-16 03:03:17
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--- Leif W <war...@us...> wrote: > Any way we can adopt any of the work that was > already done with the Pushlet > project, and just port it over to different > languages? This I'm not sure of as yet. > Even if we just > started with the object model and designed our code > after that, or > something. Just not to reinvent the wheel if > possible. No, we're not reinventing the wheel. Once we have the concept of how it works then we can make the necessary adjustments. -- Raymond Irving > Leif > > > -- > > Raymond Irving > > > > > > > > --- Cristian Grigoriu > <cri...@pr...> > > > > ... provided the user has the Java Runtime > > > Environment (JRE aka JVM - > > > Java Virtual Machine, the bytecode interpreter) > > > installed and enabled in > > > browser. As you know, Microsoft no longer ships > a > > > JVM with Windows, it > > > has to be downloaded from Sun website and > installed. > > > The user might not > > > be able to do it (not having administrative > rights, > > > company software > > > policy, bandwidth limitations). > > > > > > A Java applet opening a TCP connection back to > the > > > server will fail if > > > the user is behind a firewall (only allowing > > > connections to certain > > > ports, 80 and 443 for example) or behind a > (socks) > > > proxy. The HTTP > > > protocol, as Leif said, is stateless (well, sort > of, > > > if not using > > > keep-alives) meaning the browser makes a > request, > > > the server responds > > > then the connection is closed. > > > > > > >>The API will handle all the technical > > > >>details so the user only have to listen in for > an > > > >>event from the server. > > > >>What do you think? > > > > > > Why not using asynchronous techniques, for > instance > > > polling a dynamic > > > server page (PHP/ASP/JSP/CGI), writing the > result in > > > an iFrame or hidden > > > frame? > > > > > > I would stay away from Java as much as possible. > > > > > > >>Raymond Irving > > > > Leif > > > > > > Grig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net > Giveback > > > Program. > > > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source > > > Projects. > > > See the people who have HELPED US provide better > > > services: > > > Click here: > http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dynapi-Help mailing list > > > Dyn...@li... > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback > Program. > > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source > Projects. > > See the people who have HELPED US provide better > services: > > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Help mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback > Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source > Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better > services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: William A. <wi...@25...> - 2003-10-15 23:25:10
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I think I just put my foot in my mouth w/ the XML-RPC (i.e., SODA-RPC already being in the tree). Note to the moderator: nix these messages if you can. - Bill |
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From: William A. <wi...@25...> - 2003-10-15 23:19:14
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On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0400, Leif W wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> > To: <dyn...@li...> > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Simple communication questions... > > Not so simple afterall I guess. :-) Good thing we had this discussion, lot > of good things coming out of it. > > > We don't need Java or a plugin on the browser. All > > that we need is JavaScript. That all that there is to > > it. nothing more nothing less :) > > You're going to need some server side scripting, right? That may be true if > you're running on an IIS server with ASP with JScript support. But for > Apache, you're going to need other languages like Perl, PHP, Java, TCL, C, > C++, etc. I'll help where I can of course, and if there's any other's out > there by all means lend a hand. :) > > > Trust me I believe it all posible only it I can find > > the time to get started. > > Any way we can adopt any of the work that was already done with the Pushlet > project, and just port it over to different languages? Even if we just > started with the object model and designed our code after that, or > something. Just not to reinvent the wheel if possible. > > Leif I'm jumping in a little late in the game, but there must be a dozen different tiny protocols to bind JavaScript to CGI. Ironically, for every other feasible language combination there are exactly two; namely XML-RPC and SOAP. XML-RPC should be light enough, and there are several JavaScript libraries already out in the wild. And of course, you then basically get Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, Java, ASP, C, C++, C# et al on the server-side for free, because XML-RPC is a widely implemented standard. Here is a list of XML-RPC implementations: http://www.xmlrpc.com/directory/1568/implementations There are at least 2 extant JavaScript implementations listed. Back to your regularly scheduled broadcast.... |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2003-10-15 22:44:33
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Simple communication questions... Not so simple afterall I guess. :-) Good thing we had this discussion, lot of good things coming out of it. > We don't need Java or a plugin on the browser. All > that we need is JavaScript. That all that there is to > it. nothing more nothing less :) You're going to need some server side scripting, right? That may be true if you're running on an IIS server with ASP with JScript support. But for Apache, you're going to need other languages like Perl, PHP, Java, TCL, C, C++, etc. I'll help where I can of course, and if there's any other's out there by all means lend a hand. :) > Trust me I believe it all posible only it I can find > the time to get started. Any way we can adopt any of the work that was already done with the Pushlet project, and just port it over to different languages? Even if we just started with the object model and designed our code after that, or something. Just not to reinvent the wheel if possible. Leif > -- > Raymond Irving > > > > --- Cristian Grigoriu <cri...@pr...> > > > ... provided the user has the Java Runtime > > Environment (JRE aka JVM - > > Java Virtual Machine, the bytecode interpreter) > > installed and enabled in > > browser. As you know, Microsoft no longer ships a > > JVM with Windows, it > > has to be downloaded from Sun website and installed. > > The user might not > > be able to do it (not having administrative rights, > > company software > > policy, bandwidth limitations). > > > > A Java applet opening a TCP connection back to the > > server will fail if > > the user is behind a firewall (only allowing > > connections to certain > > ports, 80 and 443 for example) or behind a (socks) > > proxy. The HTTP > > protocol, as Leif said, is stateless (well, sort of, > > if not using > > keep-alives) meaning the browser makes a request, > > the server responds > > then the connection is closed. > > > > >>The API will handle all the technical > > >>details so the user only have to listen in for an > > >>event from the server. > > >>What do you think? > > > > Why not using asynchronous techniques, for instance > > polling a dynamic > > server page (PHP/ASP/JSP/CGI), writing the result in > > an iFrame or hidden > > frame? > > > > I would stay away from Java as much as possible. > > > > >>Raymond Irving > > > Leif > > > > Grig > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback > > Program. > > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source > > Projects. > > See the people who have HELPED US provide better > > services: > > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Help mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > |
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From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-15 21:03:51
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We don't need Java or a plugin on the browser. All that we need is JavaScript. That all that there is to it. nothing more nothing less :) Trust me I believe it all posible only it I can find the time to get started. -- Raymond Irving --- Cristian Grigoriu <cri...@pr...> > > ... provided the user has the Java Runtime > Environment (JRE aka JVM - > Java Virtual Machine, the bytecode interpreter) > installed and enabled in > browser. As you know, Microsoft no longer ships a > JVM with Windows, it > has to be downloaded from Sun website and installed. > The user might not > be able to do it (not having administrative rights, > company software > policy, bandwidth limitations). > > A Java applet opening a TCP connection back to the > server will fail if > the user is behind a firewall (only allowing > connections to certain > ports, 80 and 443 for example) or behind a (socks) > proxy. The HTTP > protocol, as Leif said, is stateless (well, sort of, > if not using > keep-alives) meaning the browser makes a request, > the server responds > then the connection is closed. > > >>The API will handle all the technical > >>details so the user only have to listen in for an > >>event from the server. > >>What do you think? > > Why not using asynchronous techniques, for instance > polling a dynamic > server page (PHP/ASP/JSP/CGI), writing the result in > an iFrame or hidden > frame? > > I would stay away from Java as much as possible. > > >>Raymond Irving > > Leif > > Grig > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback > Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source > Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better > services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
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From: Cristian G. <cri...@pr...> - 2003-10-15 20:49:15
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> documents on the server. But most computers are compiled with 65535 sockets > by default I believe. I am not sure if any operating systems allow for this > number to be increased. I suspect that OSes like Linux and FreeBSD would > allow this to be increased, by hacking the source code. It may or may not A network socket is a structure composed by an IP address, a port number and an IP protocol (TCP or UDP). There can only be 65536 ports on one IP; however a machine can have multiple IP addresses. Anyway, that's not the point :) >>The Push/Pull technique should work with all supported >>web browsers. ... provided the user has the Java Runtime Environment (JRE aka JVM - Java Virtual Machine, the bytecode interpreter) installed and enabled in browser. As you know, Microsoft no longer ships a JVM with Windows, it has to be downloaded from Sun website and installed. The user might not be able to do it (not having administrative rights, company software policy, bandwidth limitations). A Java applet opening a TCP connection back to the server will fail if the user is behind a firewall (only allowing connections to certain ports, 80 and 443 for example) or behind a (socks) proxy. The HTTP protocol, as Leif said, is stateless (well, sort of, if not using keep-alives) meaning the browser makes a request, the server responds then the connection is closed. >>The API will handle all the technical >>details so the user only have to listen in for an >>event from the server. >>What do you think? Why not using asynchronous techniques, for instance polling a dynamic server page (PHP/ASP/JSP/CGI), writing the result in an iFrame or hidden frame? I would stay away from Java as much as possible. >>Raymond Irving > Leif Grig |
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