dynapi-help — List relating to using the DynAPI, bug reports, and suggestions

[Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Ben S. <ben...@tr...>]

Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
post it here as well.

Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page? 

Thanks,
ben

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RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Event s

[Jack_Speranza <jsp...@gr...>]

Ignore my last request... I found an old version of dynapi.js that DOES have
the getDocument method.  I imported this into my dev environment, et voila,
elle marche!  So, it appears the most recent release does NOT include the
appropriate dynapi.js code.  By the way, I'm not exactly sure where my
dynapi.js with the getDocument method came from, but I do not believe I got
it from sourceForge -- I suspect it came from either Il Maestro's site or
from Pascal's (the code is quite a bit more comprehensive...).

I realize this DynAPI is a collaborative project, and you talented folks are
doing a wonderful job creating widgets and enhancements which the rest of us
capitalize upon.  It appears many of you modify and tweak the "foundation"
code to improve performance and make things work better, which is great, but
I'm not sure all these changes make their way into the stuff that gets
released to the "public".  When a bloke like me gets the new stuff, it takes
me a long time to figure out where the problems might lie... 

Because I'm benefitting from your work, I'd be happy to volunteer my
services in some fashion toward setting up a system to see if we can get
this to work better.  Unfortunately, I'm not all that proficient (YET, I
hope) with the underlying mechanics of this API, so not sure if I've really
got anything to offer...  Any suggestions?

Jack  

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rainwater [mailto:rai...@us...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 8:06 PM
To: Scott Andrew LePera
Subject: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Events



Hi,

There seems to be some difference in the DynLayer.EventMethod and
DynDocument.EventMethod:

DynLayer.EventMethod:
if (!src) {
-> src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc)
   if (!src) return true
}

DynDocument.EventMethod
DynLayer.EventMethod:
if (!src) {
-> src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)
   if (!src) return true
}

I believe you should pass "realsrc.id" to the getDocument.  This is the
id of the Javascript object.  I think realsrc.elm is always undefined
(I could be wrong there).

Later,
Robert <rai...@us...>


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RE: [Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Events

[Jack_Speranza <jsp...@gr...>]

Hi Scott (and all)  --
	Thanks for responding (thanks to Robert, too!)... After reading your
messages I (once again) opened up the dynapi.js file to make sure I hadn't
overlooked the getDocument method.  It's NOT there!  I've also looked in the
other api files (Dynlayer.js, Dyndocument.js, etc.) to make sure it wasn't
in one of the library files.  Alas, it's just not to be found (I suspect it
wasn't in my previous version, though I haven't opened up the old library to
look).  I'm working on a project that's deliverable on Monday.  I'd like to
use the new release, as I suspect it cleans up a lot of relatively "minor"
problems I was encountering (dragging layers was a little buggy, memory
leaks, etc.).  Is there another source for the more recent dynapi.js file
that I can download? (like Il Maestro's site or Pascal's?)  Thanks for
getting back to me...

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Andrew LePera [mailto:sc...@sc...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 5:31 PM
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Events


Hi Jack, welcome to the list.

Hm, the getDocument method should be part of the DynAPI object in
dynapi.js and if yours is missing, then there's something seriously
wrong with the distribution.

Another bug may be this:

DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)

I don't know who put this in, but doesn't getDocument require an ID, not
an object?

Maybe it should be:

DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm.id)

I'd like to hear what the list thinks.



Jack_Speranza wrote:
> 
> Hello gang --
>         I've been continuing to play around with trying to create and
> manipulate DynLayers between frames, and was starting making some headway.
> Unfortunately, after downloading the most recent release from SourceForge,
> I've encountered an error that I'm simply not smart enough to untangle.
I'm
> loading my DynAPI code into a menu frame and creating all my DynLayers
from
> there.  On load, my target frame invokes functions sitting resident in my
> menu frame that make the target a DynDocument and add my layers
accordingly.
> This was all working fine under the previous release.
> 
>         In my current experiment, I'm simply looking to add a DynLayer to
my
> target frame that I can drag around (nothing fancy at all!).  My code
> relating to this is as follows:
> 
> target = new DynDocument(parent.main)
> 
> lyrHelp = new DynLayer(null,390,65,150,150)
> target.addChild(lyrHelp)
> 
> DragEvent.setDragBoundary(lyrHelp)
> DragEvent.enableDragEvents(target,lyrHelp)
> 
> Everything loads OK, but as soon as I move my mouse anywhere over my
target
> frame, I bomb out.  The api.events.js code I had been using is drastically
> different from what is in the new release.  The new release bombs out in
the
> DynDocument.EventMethod at -- "if (!src) {
> src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)" (the error message is that the object
> doesn't support this property or method).  I've looked through the various
> files, and cannot find the DynAPI.getDocument() method in this new
release.
> Does it exist?  Is this even my problem?  I'm really looking forward to
the
> day when I know this API (and JavaScript and OOP) as well as the rest of
you
> :-)  Thanks for your help!
> 
> ******************************
> Jack Speranza
> Web Developer
> Gryphon Networks
> (781) 255-0444 x129
> jsp...@gr...
> <www.gryphonnetworks.com>
> 
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[Dynapi-Help] Still problems with inline layers ...

[<hv...@ya...>]

Hello all,

I've just begun using the DynAPI for my website
development and thinks it's terific. I'm using it side
by side with ASP server scripting - to not overload
and crash the browsers and for some additional
features.

I was downloading and implementing the new DynAPI
2000.10.24b Full release, that should include a fix to
the events and sliding extensions I'm trying to use to
make a sliding menu. Then my inline layers no more
would be refernced to with DynAPI.document.all and
since I could see it was properly working in one of
the examples I was doubting my code was correct, so I
tested rebuilding it bit by bit, cutting out
everything but the necessary. To my surprise the
refernce call worked perfect with just one inline
layer, but as soon as there are multiple, it no longer
recognise the one working refernce call and started to
fail - and it happens in both IE and NS. 

I have tried both direct reference, making it an
variable and also making an object of it, all with the
same result: multiple inline layers bug out the
DynAPI.document.all reference call.

It might just be me doing something wrong still,
because I'm new with it, but I've tried it every way I
can think of. It was also working properly with
earlier distributions, but I need it to be working
with the recent one, because it contains other fixes
I'd like to use (and I don't want to tangle with
mixing different versions, because who knows what
troubles that might cause).

Maybe someone knows if there's a way to work around
the error. I rather not use only DynLayers instead of
inline layers though, because there's quite a load of
content going into the DIV's, that I think would be
too much load for the browser to handle a setHTML(),
especially NS4.x (also I'm generating it with ASP, so
it be a mess rendering through one more scripting).

My site's at 

http://hvaglin.freesqlhost.com/

it's faulty, cause it generates javascript runtime
errors and doesn't work as expecyted (in IE at least),
but it's not the one using the recent DynAPI dist -
that one still resides on my HD. BTW I'm using my own
simple layerpos extensions in case you wonder about
the code. 

BTW2: great idea with the emailist :)



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Re[2]: [Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Events

[Robert R. <rai...@us...>]

Hi,

There seems to be some difference in the DynLayer.EventMethod and
DynDocument.EventMethod:

DynLayer.EventMethod:
if (!src) {
-> src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc)
   if (!src) return true
}

DynDocument.EventMethod
DynLayer.EventMethod:
if (!src) {
-> src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)
   if (!src) return true
}

I believe you should pass "realsrc.id" to the getDocument.  This is the
id of the Javascript object.  I think realsrc.elm is always undefined
(I could be wrong there).

Later,
Robert <rai...@us...>

Re: [Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Events

[Scott A. L. <sc...@sc...>]

Hi Jack, welcome to the list.

Hm, the getDocument method should be part of the DynAPI object in
dynapi.js and if yours is missing, then there's something seriously
wrong with the distribution.

Another bug may be this:

DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)

I don't know who put this in, but doesn't getDocument require an ID, not
an object?

Maybe it should be:

DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm.id)

I'd like to hear what the list thinks.



Jack_Speranza wrote:
> 
> Hello gang --
>         I've been continuing to play around with trying to create and
> manipulate DynLayers between frames, and was starting making some headway.
> Unfortunately, after downloading the most recent release from SourceForge,
> I've encountered an error that I'm simply not smart enough to untangle.  I'm
> loading my DynAPI code into a menu frame and creating all my DynLayers from
> there.  On load, my target frame invokes functions sitting resident in my
> menu frame that make the target a DynDocument and add my layers accordingly.
> This was all working fine under the previous release.
> 
>         In my current experiment, I'm simply looking to add a DynLayer to my
> target frame that I can drag around (nothing fancy at all!).  My code
> relating to this is as follows:
> 
> target = new DynDocument(parent.main)
> 
> lyrHelp = new DynLayer(null,390,65,150,150)
> target.addChild(lyrHelp)
> 
> DragEvent.setDragBoundary(lyrHelp)
> DragEvent.enableDragEvents(target,lyrHelp)
> 
> Everything loads OK, but as soon as I move my mouse anywhere over my target
> frame, I bomb out.  The api.events.js code I had been using is drastically
> different from what is in the new release.  The new release bombs out in the
> DynDocument.EventMethod at -- "if (!src) {
> src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)" (the error message is that the object
> doesn't support this property or method).  I've looked through the various
> files, and cannot find the DynAPI.getDocument() method in this new release.
> Does it exist?  Is this even my problem?  I'm really looking forward to the
> day when I know this API (and JavaScript and OOP) as well as the rest of you
> :-)  Thanks for your help!
> 
> ******************************
> Jack Speranza
> Web Developer
> Gryphon Networks
> (781) 255-0444 x129
> jsp...@gr...
> <www.gryphonnetworks.com>
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Dyn...@li...
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[Dynapi-Help] New DynAPI release and DynDocument Events

[Jack_Speranza <jsp...@gr...>]

Hello gang --
	I've been continuing to play around with trying to create and
manipulate DynLayers between frames, and was starting making some headway.
Unfortunately, after downloading the most recent release from SourceForge,
I've encountered an error that I'm simply not smart enough to untangle.  I'm
loading my DynAPI code into a menu frame and creating all my DynLayers from
there.  On load, my target frame invokes functions sitting resident in my
menu frame that make the target a DynDocument and add my layers accordingly.
This was all working fine under the previous release.

	In my current experiment, I'm simply looking to add a DynLayer to my
target frame that I can drag around (nothing fancy at all!).  My code
relating to this is as follows:

target = new DynDocument(parent.main)

lyrHelp = new DynLayer(null,390,65,150,150)
target.addChild(lyrHelp)

DragEvent.setDragBoundary(lyrHelp)
DragEvent.enableDragEvents(target,lyrHelp)

Everything loads OK, but as soon as I move my mouse anywhere over my target
frame, I bomb out.  The api.events.js code I had been using is drastically
different from what is in the new release.  The new release bombs out in the
DynDocument.EventMethod at -- "if (!src) {
src=DynAPI.getDocument(realsrc.elm)" (the error message is that the object
doesn't support this property or method).  I've looked through the various
files, and cannot find the DynAPI.getDocument() method in this new release.
Does it exist?  Is this even my problem?  I'm really looking forward to the
day when I know this API (and JavaScript and OOP) as well as the rest of you
:-)  Thanks for your help!



******************************
Jack Speranza
Web Developer
Gryphon Networks
(781) 255-0444 x129
jsp...@gr...
<www.gryphonnetworks.com>

Re: [Dynapi-Help] netscape and accessing forms through javascript...

[Ben S. <ben...@tr...>]

The difference between Netscape and IE in terms of accessing forms on a
layer is that Netscape treats the layer as a separate document.

IE: document.formname.formelement.value
NS: document.layer.document.formname.formelement.value

The trick I use, which works when your event is being triggered by the
form itself, is to pass the calling object to your function.  For
example:

function validate(obj) {
  for (var i=0; i<obj.form.length; i++) {
    alert(obj.form[i].value);
  }
}

// and then in a div somewhere...
<form name="myForm">
Name: <br><input name="name"><br>
<input type="button" value="submit" onclick="validate(this);">
</form>

This code will just print out the values of your form in alert boxes. 
Hopefully that will give you some ideas.

ben


Matthew wrote:
> 
> hey love the new DYNAPI2 .. just started using it yesterday and find it very
> intuitive and somewhat fun...
> 
> What I am trying to do is allow form elements to be filled out and then add
> this information to a different layer....
> 
> so I am extracting the form elements out through javascript, assigning each
> to a variable then adding these variables to the setHTML() method...
> this works in IE as I can access the form elements directly through the
> document.forms.formname.formelement.value... but NS it seams to be a
> different story.. I am assuming that because the form is on a layer that I
> have to somehow access the form through the layer... but I am not sure how
> the DYNAPI writes to the DOM for me to access.. looking at IEs DOM the
> DYNAPI2 writes JSDynLayer0, etc but I cannot seam to access the form
> referencing this in netscape..
> 
> eg document.layers.JSDynLayer0.formname.formelement.value
> 
> so i am hoping that you have any sugestions..
> 
> Thanks MattieK
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RE: [Dynapi-Help] netscape and accessing forms through javascript...

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

You can get to the document using the .doc property of a layer
something like this:

mylayer.doc.formname.element.value

or images:

mylayer.doc.images[imagename]

greets,

Pascal Bestebroer
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Verzonden: woensdag 25 oktober 2000 19:22
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Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Help] netscape and accessing forms through
javascript...


hey love the new DYNAPI2 .. just started using it yesterday and find it very
intuitive and somewhat fun...

What I am trying to do is allow form elements to be filled out and then add
this information to a different layer....

so I am extracting the form elements out through javascript, assigning each
to a variable then adding these variables to the setHTML() method...
this works in IE as I can access the form elements directly through the
document.forms.formname.formelement.value... but NS it seams to be a
different story.. I am assuming that because the form is on a layer that I
have to somehow access the form through the layer... but I am not sure how
the DYNAPI writes to the DOM for me to access.. looking at IEs DOM the
DYNAPI2 writes JSDynLayer0, etc but I cannot seam to access the form
referencing this in netscape..

eg document.layers.JSDynLayer0.formname.formelement.value

so i am hoping that you have any sugestions..

Thanks MattieK

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[Dynapi-Help] netscape and accessing forms through javascript...

[Matthew <ma...@di...>]

hey love the new DYNAPI2 .. just started using it yesterday and find it very
intuitive and somewhat fun...

What I am trying to do is allow form elements to be filled out and then add
this information to a different layer....

so I am extracting the form elements out through javascript, assigning each
to a variable then adding these variables to the setHTML() method...
this works in IE as I can access the form elements directly through the
document.forms.formname.formelement.value... but NS it seams to be a
different story.. I am assuming that because the form is on a layer that I
have to somehow access the form through the layer... but I am not sure how
the DYNAPI writes to the DOM for me to access.. looking at IEs DOM the
DYNAPI2 writes JSDynLayer0, etc but I cannot seam to access the form
referencing this in netscape..

eg document.layers.JSDynLayer0.formname.formelement.value

so i am hoping that you have any sugestions..

Thanks MattieK