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[Dynapi-Dev] Space Invaders 0.1

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

Hi again folks,

I took the weekend of and wrote my version of the famous game Space
Invaders, I'm fairly happy with it and it runs fine under Mac Mozilla and
Mac IE5.1 so it should run for the Windows folks too. There are some minor
things with the score  and the level thing (fix that later). But it's fun to
play.

Download and enjoy.
http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php

Let me know what you think.
Michael

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc4 release

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

how about a right-click context menu?
Kinda like in Dreamweaver..
You could right click on a layer, move your mouse to the border submenu and
choose the border for that layer..
same for colors, styles, ect.

Would also be nice if we could define styles, and then automatically add
them to the context menu..
---------------------
"And now for something completely different."

My specialty is the manipulation of massive amounts of data.
The DynAPI source (text) is a massive amount of data.
I intend to create an App in VB which will parse out object and method
declarations and members.
The parsed info would be used to generate a database and ASP driven
application (generated end-to-end automatically).
The ASP app would allow anyone who logs in to add comments/documentation for
each item parsed out.
The resulting information can be then written to an thml doc and downloaded
at will.

Any thoughts suggestions?

I intend to use ASP and MS Access.
The Layout would be something like

Object: DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image)
---------------------------------------------------
Text area for entering information/notes/comments
---------------------------------------------------
[save entry]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc4 release


> Hi,
>
> The events are working just fine. I thought it would
> be cool if when we single click on a layer it's
> selected and set to edit mode. When we double click on
> a layer or the document it should open the events
> window.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
> wrote:
> > Hi list folk time again VDE-0.1rc4
> >
> > This is fixes a most of the bugs that¹s been
> > reported on the list and some
> > of my own fixes and improvements. I think that
> > Windows IE 6 version works
> > now. It does so on Virtual PC.
> >
> > The biggest this with this release is that I¹ve
> > included basic event
> > handling (both for preview and save/load file).
> >
> > Here is how you do it:
> >
> > You can add event to booth document and layers. (due
> > to the fact that I
> > don¹t copy the document in the copy array the
> > document¹s eventCONTAIBER will
> > not be copied hence the documents event¹s can not be
> > saved. This will
> > change)
> >
> > If the active layer is the VDE¹s grid you can add
> > layers by clicking on the
> > events button, For other layers you need to be in
> > edit mode, then you can
> > click the events button. The reason for this is
> > better control over the
> > event window you will lose track of where you are
> > and where youre going. I
> > will change the design and a lot of the way that
> > things are displaed in the
> > events window.
> >
> > There need to be a new line feed thing there that
> > will add the ";" when a
> > new line is added.
> >
> > I want to change the object pointer from this:
> >
> > layer0.setSize(10,10);
> >
> > to
> >
> > this.setSize(10,10);
> >
> > This will help you with pointing to the right object
> > all the time.
> >
> > There is a bug inside the this.name when you set
> > HTML/or paste the name will
> > change but the saved events's objects name will not
> > (this will change)
> >
> > If you have added a event to the layer you need not
> > go back to edit mode.
> > You can access the event window by clicking on the
> > little [e] box and the
> > window will open.
> >
> > Let's look at the event window.
> > To select the event click on the button of choice
> > "custom" will have other
> > system linked to it so it is not active now.
> >
> > You have to click on [add event] to commit the event
> > to the object. The
> > event will be added automatically if you you change
> > the event mode ex: from
> > [Down] to [Up] etc...
> >
> > There are some other things I know I forgot but....
> >
> >
> > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php
> > (at the bottom)
> >
> > Download it and Play with it
> > What do you think
> > Some feed back.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc4 release

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hi,

The events are working just fine. I thought it would
be cool if when we single click on a layer it's
selected and set to edit mode. When we double click on
a layer or the document it should open the events
window.

--
Raymond Irving

--- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
wrote:
> Hi list folk time again VDE-0.1rc4
> 
> This is fixes a most of the bugs that¹s been
> reported on the list and some
> of my own fixes and improvements. I think that
> Windows IE 6 version works
> now. It does so on Virtual PC.
> 
> The biggest this with this release is that I¹ve
> included basic event
> handling (both for preview and save/load file).
> 
> Here is how you do it:
> 
> You can add event to booth document and layers. (due
> to the fact that I
> don¹t copy the document in the copy array the
> document¹s eventCONTAIBER will
> not be copied hence the documents event¹s can not be
> saved. This will
> change) 
> 
> If the active layer is the VDE¹s grid you can add
> layers by clicking on the
> events button, For other layers you need to be in
> edit mode, then you can
> click the events button. The reason for this is
> better control over the
> event window you will lose track of where you are
> and where youre going. I
> will change the design and a lot of the way that
> things are displaed in the
> events window.  
> 
> There need to be a new line feed thing there that
> will add the ";" when a
> new line is added. 
> 
> I want to change the object pointer from this:
> 
> layer0.setSize(10,10);
> 
> to 
> 
> this.setSize(10,10);
> 
> This will help you with pointing to the right object
> all the time.
> 
> There is a bug inside the this.name when you set
> HTML/or paste the name will
> change but the saved events's objects name will not
> (this will change)
> 
> If you have added a event to the layer you need not
> go back to edit mode.
> You can access the event window by clicking on the
> little [e] box and the
> window will open.
> 
> Let's look at the event window.
> To select the event click on the button of choice
> "custom" will have other
> system linked to it so it is not active now.
> 
> You have to click on [add event] to commit the event
> to the object. The
> event will be added automatically if you you change
> the event mode ex: from
> [Down] to [Up] etc...
> 
> There are some other things I know I forgot but....
> 
> 
> http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php
> (at the bottom)
> 
> Download it and Play with it
> What do you think
> Some feed back.
> 
> Cheers
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] DynWindow

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi mate!

Here comes the lastest dynwindow... I was thinking that maybee you could
fix the inheritance problem i always is making :) And then i can
continue with it.

Regards
Daniel

[Dynapi-Dev] Panelbar update

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi!

Peter have updated the Panelbar js file and panelbar-stacker example.

Just some documentation to do left but that will come.

Regards
Daniel

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Raymond Irving wrote:

> Calling 'disableContextMenu' will only disable the
> browser's contextmenu but you'll still be able to
> lisen to oncontextmenu. 

Yes I know. What I meant is that it is kinda strange to
call disableContextMenu but having a oncontextmenu-Eventhandler.
People might not distinguish between browser-context-menu
and their own. That was the 'name-clash' I was referring to.

Regards,
Peter

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> > To create you're own context menus you'll have to
> > listen to onclick and check for the right mouse
> button
> > or should we go ahead and create a oncontextmenu
> > event?
> 
> That would be great! But then we have a problem with
> the name 'disableContextMenu'. Rename it to
> 'disableDefaultContextMenu' or something like that?

Calling 'disableContextMenu' will only disable the
browser's contextmenu but you'll still be able to
lisen to oncontextmenu. 

Opera is the only browser that I think we might have
problems with when disabling the context menu.

--
Raymond Irving


> Regards,
> Peter
> 


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Hi,

> I believe we have a
> dynapi.document.disableContextMenu() function that
> should disable context menu. 

Ok should have looked into the source beforehand...

> I for one prefer preventContextMenu() to
> disableContextMenu() can we make that change in
> keeping with things like preventBubble(), etc or
> should we just leave it as is?

I think disableContextMenu is more precise in this context.

> To create you're own context menus you'll have to
> listen to onclick and check for the right mouse button
> or should we go ahead and create a oncontextmenu
> event?

That would be great! But then we have a problem with
the name 'disableContextMenu'. Rename it to
'disableDefaultContextMenu' or something like that?

Regards,
Peter

> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> --- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>shouldn't that also be provided as a standard
>>DynAPI-function?
>>Like dynapi.preventHistory()? While at it a function
>>dynapi.preventContextMenu() could be added too,
>>which catches
>>the oncontextmenu-events and the right-click (for
>>older browsers)?
>>That is *really* useful when working with with a
>>custom ui made
>>of dynlayers. Another idea could be to provide
>>something like:
>>
>>DynLayer lyr = new DynLayer();
>>lyr.enableContextMenuClick();
>>lyr.addEventListener ( {
>>	oncontextmenu : ...
>>});
>>
>>I think that this would be very useful to a lot of
>>users. If wanted
>>I can provide the functionality since I already have
>>it (partly) in
>>my own libraries.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>Raymond Irving wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ok. We'll provide a new function from the
>>
>>server-side
>>
>>>libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
>>>function is called it will prevent the client from
>>>clicking the back button.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Raymond Irving
>>>
>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
>>>>hidden element, so that the
>>>>server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
>>>>Convoluted but works.
>>>>
>>>>--JYL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe this should be the default
>>>>
>>>>behaviour.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>But we should make is an easy "switch", like
>>>>>ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>client you can use the addJSCommand() function
>>
>>to
>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
>>>>
>>>>client.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>This will prevent the user from clicking the
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>>>button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
>>>>
>>>>default?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>In this way users will not be able to click the
>>>>
>>>>back
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
>>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Can you elaborate on this?
>>>>>>>I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
>>>>
>>>>used.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>>>>
>>>>RPC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>when you send javascript down to the client
>>>>
>>>>use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>><script>
>>>>>>>>  history.go(1);
>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi mate!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>/Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From:
>>>>
>>>>dyn...@li...
>>>>
>>>>[mailto:dyn...@li...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>On
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Raymond
>>>>>>>>>Irving
>>>>>>>>>Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>>>>>>>>>To: dyn...@li...
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>RPC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes SODA has the same problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
>>>>
>>>>prevent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>users from using the browsers back button.
>>>>
>>>>IMO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not good to have the back button active
>>>>
>>>>when
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>you're
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doing dynamic stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
>>>>
>>>>server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>side
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>for Tcl, and in the
>>>>>>>>>>process got JSRS up and running
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>(http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
>>>>
>>>>can
>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

Ok.  Will add to ioelmsrv.php when it's added to the asp version, so I can
see exactly what it does.  :-)

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC


>
> Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
> libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> function is called it will prevent the client from
> clicking the back button.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
> > hidden element, so that the
> > server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
> > Convoluted but works.
> >
> > --JYL
> >
> > > I don't believe this should be the default
> > behaviour.
> > > But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> > > ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Ok.
> > >>
> > >> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
> > the
> > >> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
> > have
> > >> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
> > client.
> > >> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
> > >> button.
> > >>
> > >> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
> > default?
> > >> In this way users will not be able to click the
> > back
> > >> button.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Raymond Irving
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> > wrote:
> > >> > Can you elaborate on this?
> > >> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
> > used.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > >> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> > >> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> > RPC
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > when you send javascript down to the client
> > use
> > >> > > <script>
> > >> > >    history.go(1);
> > >> > > </script>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > >> > > > Hi mate!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > /Daniel
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From:
> > dyn...@li...
> > >> > > >
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> > >> > On
> > >> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
> > >> > > > Irving
> > >> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > >> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
> > and
> > >> > RPC
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
> > prevent
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > users from using the browsers back button.
> > IMO
> > >> > it's
> > >> > > > not good to have the back button active
> > when
> > >> > you're
> > >> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > Raymond Irving
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > >> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
> > server
> > >> > > > side
> > >> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
> > >> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
> > >> > > > >
> > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > >> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
> > can
> > >> > see
> > >> > > > my
> > >> > > > > meager effort here:
> > >> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
> > >> > > > location.replace()
> > >> > > > > (where possible) it
> > >> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> > >> > button
> > >> > > > gets
> > >> > > > > a very long history
> > >> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
> > and
> > >> > NN7 on
> > >> > > > > WinXP, others saw
> > >> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
> > and
> > >> > > > Linux.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> > >> > problem,
> > >> > > > > and if not, how did you
> > >> > > > > avoid it?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that
> > I am
> > >> > > > > making slow progress
> > >> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
> > side
> > >> > for
> > >> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > >> > > > > as a template.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --JYL
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

I believe we have a
dynapi.document.disableContextMenu() function that
should disable context menu. 

I for one prefer preventContextMenu() to
disableContextMenu() can we make that change in
keeping with things like preventBubble(), etc or
should we just leave it as is?

To create you're own context menus you'll have to
listen to onclick and check for the right mouse button
or should we go ahead and create a oncontextmenu
event?


--
Raymond Irving

--- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> shouldn't that also be provided as a standard
> DynAPI-function?
> Like dynapi.preventHistory()? While at it a function
> dynapi.preventContextMenu() could be added too,
> which catches
> the oncontextmenu-events and the right-click (for
> older browsers)?
> That is *really* useful when working with with a
> custom ui made
> of dynlayers. Another idea could be to provide
> something like:
> 
> DynLayer lyr = new DynLayer();
> lyr.enableContextMenuClick();
> lyr.addEventListener ( {
> 	oncontextmenu : ...
> });
> 
> I think that this would be very useful to a lot of
> users. If wanted
> I can provide the functionality since I already have
> it (partly) in
> my own libraries.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> Raymond Irving wrote:
> 
> > Ok. We'll provide a new function from the
> server-side
> > libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> > function is called it will prevent the client from
> > clicking the back button.
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > 
> >>Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
> >>hidden element, so that the
> >>server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
> >>Convoluted but works.
> >>
> >>--JYL
> >>
> >>
> >>>I don't believe this should be the default
> >>
> >>behaviour.
> >>
> >>>But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> >>>ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> >>>To: <dyn...@li...>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok.
> >>>>
> >>>>When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>client you can use the addJSCommand() function
> to
> >>
> >>have
> >>
> >>>>the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
> >>
> >>client.
> >>
> >>>>This will prevent the user from clicking the
> back
> >>>>button.
> >>>>
> >>>>Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
> >>
> >>default?
> >>
> >>>>In this way users will not be able to click the
> >>
> >>back
> >>
> >>>>button.
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Raymond Irving
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> >>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>Can you elaborate on this?
> >>>>>I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
> >>
> >>used.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> >>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> >>>>>Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> >>
> >>RPC
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>when you send javascript down to the client
> >>
> >>use
> >>
> >>>>>><script>
> >>>>>>   history.go(1);
> >>>>>></script>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi mate!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>/Daniel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>From:
> >>
> >>dyn...@li...
> >>
> >>[mailto:dyn...@li...]
> >>
> >>>>>On
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Behalf Of Raymond
> >>>>>>>Irving
> >>>>>>>Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> >>>>>>>To: dyn...@li...
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
> >>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>>RPC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Yes SODA has the same problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
> >>
> >>prevent
> >>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>users from using the browsers back button.
> >>
> >>IMO
> >>
> >>>>>it's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>not good to have the back button active
> >>
> >>when
> >>
> >>>>>you're
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>doing dynamic stuff.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>Raymond Irving
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
> >>
> >>server
> >>
> >>>>>>>side
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>for Tcl, and in the
> >>>>>>>>process got JSRS up and running
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>(http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> >>
> >>>>>>>>with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
> >>
> >>can
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Hi,

shouldn't that also be provided as a standard DynAPI-function?
Like dynapi.preventHistory()? While at it a function
dynapi.preventContextMenu() could be added too, which catches
the oncontextmenu-events and the right-click (for older browsers)?
That is *really* useful when working with with a custom ui made
of dynlayers. Another idea could be to provide something like:

DynLayer lyr = new DynLayer();
lyr.enableContextMenuClick();
lyr.addEventListener ( {
	oncontextmenu : ...
});

I think that this would be very useful to a lot of users. If wanted
I can provide the functionality since I already have it (partly) in
my own libraries.

Regards,
Peter



Raymond Irving wrote:

> Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
> libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> function is called it will prevent the client from
> clicking the back button.
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> 
>>Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
>>hidden element, so that the
>>server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
>>Convoluted but works.
>>
>>--JYL
>>
>>
>>>I don't believe this should be the default
>>
>>behaviour.
>>
>>>But we should make is an easy "switch", like
>>>ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
>>
>>have
>>
>>>>the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
>>
>>client.
>>
>>>>This will prevent the user from clicking the back
>>>>button.
>>>>
>>>>Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
>>
>>default?
>>
>>>>In this way users will not be able to click the
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>button.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Can you elaborate on this?
>>>>>I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
>>
>>used.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>>
>>RPC
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>when you send javascript down to the client
>>
>>use
>>
>>>>>><script>
>>>>>>   history.go(1);
>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi mate!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From:
>>
>>dyn...@li...
>>
>>[mailto:dyn...@li...]
>>
>>>>>On
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Behalf Of Raymond
>>>>>>>Irving
>>>>>>>Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>>>>>>>To: dyn...@li...
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>RPC
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes SODA has the same problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
>>
>>prevent
>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>users from using the browsers back button.
>>
>>IMO
>>
>>>>>it's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>not good to have the back button active
>>
>>when
>>
>>>>>you're
>>>>>
>>>>>>>doing dynamic stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
>>
>>server
>>
>>>>>>>side
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>for Tcl, and in the
>>>>>>>>process got JSRS up and running
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>(http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>>
>>>>>>>>with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
>>
>>can
>>
>>>>>see
>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>meager effort here:
>>>>>>>>http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I noticed that even though I use
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>location.replace()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(where possible) it
>>>>>>>>still fills my browser history, the back
>>>>>
>>>>>button
>>>>>
>>>>>>>gets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a very long history
>>>>>>>>very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>NN7 on
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>WinXP, others saw
>>>>>>>>similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>>>Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
>>>>>
>>>>>problem,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and if not, how did you
>>>>>>>>avoid it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Other than that, I'm happy to report that
>>
>>I am
>>
>>>>>>>>making slow progress
>>>>>>>>creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
>>
>>side
>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SODA, using the PHP code
>>>>>>>>as a template.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--JYL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Jacob L. <jy...@mo...>]

I'm trying to get this to work, manually, and I must be missing something.
Things are still showing up in the history.

--JYL

> Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
> libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> function is called it will prevent the client from
> clicking the back button.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
>> hidden element, so that the
>> server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
>> Convoluted but works.
>>
>> --JYL
>>
>> > I don't believe this should be the default
>> behaviour.
>> > But we should make is an easy "switch", like
>> > ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>> > To: <dyn...@li...>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Ok.
>> >>
>> >> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
>> the
>> >> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
>> have
>> >> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
>> client.
>> >> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
>> >> button.
>> >>
>> >> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
>> default?
>> >> In this way users will not be able to click the
>> back
>> >> button.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Raymond Irving
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Can you elaborate on this?
>> >> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
>> used.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>> >> > To: <dyn...@li...>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>> >> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>> RPC
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > when you send javascript down to the client
>> use
>> >> > > <script>
>> >> > >    history.go(1);
>> >> > > </script>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>> >> > > > Hi mate!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > /Daniel
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > From:
>> dyn...@li...
>> >> > > >
>> [mailto:dyn...@li...]
>> >> > On
>> >> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
>> >> > > > Irving
>> >> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>> >> > > > To: dyn...@li...
>> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
>> and
>> >> > RPC
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
>> prevent
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > users from using the browsers back button.
>> IMO
>> >> > it's
>> >> > > > not good to have the back button active
>> when
>> >> > you're
>> >> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > Raymond Irving
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> >> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
>> server
>> >> > > > side
>> >> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
>> >> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
>> >> > > > >
>> (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>> >> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
>> can
>> >> > see
>> >> > > > my
>> >> > > > > meager effort here:
>> >> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
>> >> > > > location.replace()
>> >> > > > > (where possible) it
>> >> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
>> >> > button
>> >> > > > gets
>> >> > > > > a very long history
>> >> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
>> and
>> >> > NN7 on
>> >> > > > > WinXP, others saw
>> >> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
>> and
>> >> > > > Linux.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
>> >> > problem,
>> >> > > > > and if not, how did you
>> >> > > > > avoid it?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that
>> I am
>> >> > > > > making slow progress
>> >> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
>> side
>> >> > for
>> >> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
>> >> > > > > as a template.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > --JYL
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
function is called it will prevent the client from
clicking the back button.

--
Raymond Irving

--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
> hidden element, so that the
> server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
> Convoluted but works.
> 
> --JYL
> 
> > I don't believe this should be the default
> behaviour.
> > But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> > ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
> the
> >> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
> have
> >> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
> client.
> >> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
> >> button.
> >>
> >> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
> default?
> >> In this way users will not be able to click the
> back
> >> button.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Raymond Irving
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> wrote:
> >> > Can you elaborate on this?
> >> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
> used.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> >> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> RPC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > when you send javascript down to the client
> use
> >> > > <script>
> >> > >    history.go(1);
> >> > > </script>
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> >> > > > Hi mate!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > /Daniel
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From:
> dyn...@li...
> >> > > >
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> >> > On
> >> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
> >> > > > Irving
> >> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> >> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
> and
> >> > RPC
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
> prevent
> >> > the
> >> > > > users from using the browsers back button.
> IMO
> >> > it's
> >> > > > not good to have the back button active
> when
> >> > you're
> >> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Raymond Irving
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
> server
> >> > > > side
> >> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
> >> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
> >> > > > >
> (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> >> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
> can
> >> > see
> >> > > > my
> >> > > > > meager effort here:
> >> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
> >> > > > location.replace()
> >> > > > > (where possible) it
> >> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> >> > button
> >> > > > gets
> >> > > > > a very long history
> >> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
> and
> >> > NN7 on
> >> > > > > WinXP, others saw
> >> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
> and
> >> > > > Linux.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> >> > problem,
> >> > > > > and if not, how did you
> >> > > > > avoid it?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that
> I am
> >> > > > > making slow progress
> >> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
> side
> >> > for
> >> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> >> > > > > as a template.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --JYL
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Jacob L. <jy...@mo...>]

Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a hidden element, so that the
server can generate the "history.go(1)"... Convoluted but works.

--JYL

> I don't believe this should be the default behaviour.
> But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>
>
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to the
>> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to have
>> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the client.
>> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
>> button.
>>
>> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the default?
>> In this way users will not be able to click the back
>> button.
>>
>> --
>> Raymond Irving
>>
>>
>> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
>> > Can you elaborate on this?
>> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>> > To: <dyn...@li...>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > when you send javascript down to the client use
>> > > <script>
>> > >    history.go(1);
>> > > </script>
>> > >
>> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>> > > > Hi mate!
>> > > >
>> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > /Daniel
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: dyn...@li...
>> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
>> > On
>> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
>> > > > Irving
>> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>> > > > To: dyn...@li...
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>> > RPC
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
>> > > >
>> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent
>> > the
>> > > > users from using the browsers back button. IMO
>> > it's
>> > > > not good to have the back button active when
>> > you're
>> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Raymond Irving
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
>> > > > side
>> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
>> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
>> > > > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can
>> > see
>> > > > my
>> > > > > meager effort here:
>> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
>> > > > location.replace()
>> > > > > (where possible) it
>> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
>> > button
>> > > > gets
>> > > > > a very long history
>> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and
>> > NN7 on
>> > > > > WinXP, others saw
>> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
>> > > > Linux.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
>> > problem,
>> > > > > and if not, how did you
>> > > > > avoid it?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
>> > > > > making slow progress
>> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side
>> > for
>> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
>> > > > > as a template.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --JYL
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

I don't believe this should be the default behaviour.
But we should make is an easy "switch", like ioElement.PreventHistory(true)
or some such

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC


>
> Ok.
>
> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to the
> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to have
> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the client.
> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
> button.
>
> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the default?
> In this way users will not be able to click the back
> button.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> > Can you elaborate on this?
> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > when you send javascript down to the client use
> > > <script>
> > >    history.go(1);
> > > </script>
> > >
> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > > > Hi mate!
> > > >
> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > /Daniel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
> > > > Irving
> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> > RPC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > > >
> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent
> > the
> > > > users from using the browsers back button. IMO
> > it's
> > > > not good to have the back button active when
> > you're
> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Raymond Irving
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> > > > side
> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
> > > > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can
> > see
> > > > my
> > > > > meager effort here:
> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
> > > > location.replace()
> > > > > (where possible) it
> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> > button
> > > > gets
> > > > > a very long history
> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and
> > NN7 on
> > > > > WinXP, others saw
> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> > > > Linux.
> > > > >
> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> > problem,
> > > > > and if not, how did you
> > > > > avoid it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > > > > making slow progress
> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side
> > for
> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > > > > as a template.
> > > > >
> > > > > --JYL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Ok.

When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to the
client you can use the addJSCommand() function to have
the "history.go(1);" command execute on the client.
This will prevent the user from clicking the back
button.

Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the default?
In this way users will not be able to click the back
button.

--
Raymond Irving


--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> Can you elaborate on this?
> I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> 
> 
> > 
> > when you send javascript down to the client use
> > <script>
> >    history.go(1);
> > </script>
> > 
> > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > > Hi mate!
> > > 
> > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > /Daniel
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Raymond
> > > Irving
> > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> RPC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > > 
> > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent
> the
> > > users from using the browsers back button. IMO
> it's
> > > not good to have the back button active when
> you're
> > > doing dynamic stuff.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> > > side
> > > > for Tcl, and in the
> > > > process got JSRS up and running
> > > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can
> see
> > > my
> > > > meager effort here:
> > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > > > 
> > > > I noticed that even though I use
> > > location.replace()
> > > > (where possible) it
> > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> button
> > > gets
> > > > a very long history
> > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and
> NN7 on
> > > > WinXP, others saw
> > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> > > Linux.
> > > > 
> > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> problem,
> > > > and if not, how did you
> > > > avoid it?
> > > > 
> > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > > > making slow progress
> > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side
> for
> > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > > > as a template.
> > > > 
> > > > --JYL
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Can you elaborate on this?
I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC


> 
> when you send javascript down to the client use
> <script>
>    history.go(1);
> </script>
> 
> --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > Hi mate!
> > 
> > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > 
> > 
> > /Daniel
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> > Behalf Of Raymond
> > Irving
> > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > 
> > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent the
> > users from using the browsers back button. IMO it's
> > not good to have the back button active when you're
> > doing dynamic stuff.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> > side
> > > for Tcl, and in the
> > > process got JSRS up and running
> > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can see
> > my
> > > meager effort here:
> > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > > 
> > > I noticed that even though I use
> > location.replace()
> > > (where possible) it
> > > still fills my browser history, the back button
> > gets
> > > a very long history
> > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and NN7 on
> > > WinXP, others saw
> > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> > Linux.
> > > 
> > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this problem,
> > > and if not, how did you
> > > avoid it?
> > > 
> > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > > making slow progress
> > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side for
> > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > > as a template.
> > > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Very much.

While I don't normally like to push any Micro-Shaft tech, I have found
an increasing number of client-server communication protocols using XML..
It would indeed be nice to have that XML functionlaity consistant on the
client-side..



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To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?


>
> Well the whole idea is that we would probably take a
> subset of the code from xmljs.sf.net and make an xml
> class for dynapi that will allow us to work with xml
> files directly in all dynapi supported browsers.
>
> An one else like the idea?
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- Leif W <war...@us...> wrote:
> > Looking through some old emails, saw this.  Sounds
> > like an interesting idea
> > (bring some XML support to older browsers through
> > the API, and provide a
> > uniform interface across browsers).  Wonder why
> > noone replied.  :-)  Can you
> > elaborate on a scenario or example where this would
> > be used to handle
> > things?  I'm not too familiar with XML and how it
> > could be applied here.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:32 AM
> > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > How about adding an XML class to the DynAPI
> > library
> > > that allows us to use xml documents in
> > > ns4+,ie4+,moz,opera7+,etc?
> > >
> > > example:
> > >
> > > var xml = new XMLDoc();
> > > var fl = new FileReader(function(){
> > > var str = fl.read('customers.xml');
> > > xml.loadXML(str);
> > > var node = xml.selectNode('/tag1/tag/a/b/c');
> > > if(node) alert(node.getText());
> > > });
> > >
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[Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc4 release note

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

Hi again,

Should point out that there is a saved load file for the events
The name of the load file is "event.js" inside the "example" folder.

Michael

[Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc4 release

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

Hi list folk time again VDE-0.1rc4

This is fixes a most of the bugs that=B9s been reported on the list and some
of my own fixes and improvements. I think that Windows IE 6 version works
now. It does so on Virtual PC.

The biggest this with this release is that I=B9ve included basic event
handling (both for preview and save/load file).

Here is how you do it:

You can add event to booth document and layers. (due to the fact that I
don=B9t copy the document in the copy array the document=B9s eventCONTAIBER wil=
l
not be copied hence the documents event=B9s can not be saved. This will
change)=20

If the active layer is the VDE=B9s grid you can add layers by clicking on the
events button, For other layers you need to be in edit mode, then you can
click the events button. The reason for this is better control over the
event window you will lose track of where you are and where youre going. I
will change the design and a lot of the way that things are displaed in the
events window. =20

There need to be a new line feed thing there that will add the ";" when a
new line is added.=20

I want to change the object pointer from this:

layer0.setSize(10,10);

to=20

this.setSize(10,10);

This will help you with pointing to the right object all the time.

There is a bug inside the this.name when you set HTML/or paste the name wil=
l
change but the saved events's objects name will not (this will change)

If you have added a event to the layer you need not go back to edit mode.
You can access the event window by clicking on the little [e] box and the
window will open.

Let's look at the event window.
To select the event click on the button of choice "custom" will have other
system linked to it so it is not active now.

You have to click on [add event] to commit the event to the object. The
event will be added automatically if you you change the event mode ex: from
[Down] to [Up] etc...

There are some other things I know I forgot but....


http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php
(at the bottom)

Download it and Play with it
What do you think
Some feed back.

Cheers
Michael

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

when you send javascript down to the client use
<script>
   history.go(1);
</script>

--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> Hi mate!
> 
> How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> 
> 
> /Daniel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> Behalf Of Raymond
> Irving
> Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> 
> 
> 
> Yes SODA has the same problem.
> 
> Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent the
> users from using the browsers back button. IMO it's
> not good to have the back button active when you're
> doing dynamic stuff.
> 
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> side
> > for Tcl, and in the
> > process got JSRS up and running
> > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can see
> my
> > meager effort here:
> > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > 
> > I noticed that even though I use
> location.replace()
> > (where possible) it
> > still fills my browser history, the back button
> gets
> > a very long history
> > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and NN7 on
> > WinXP, others saw
> > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> Linux.
> > 
> > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this problem,
> > and if not, how did you
> > avoid it?
> > 
> > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > making slow progress
> > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side for
> > SODA, using the PHP code
> > as a template.
> > 
> > --JYL
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Sounds really good

/Daniel

-----Original Message-----
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Irving
Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:18
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?



Well the whole idea is that we would probably take a
subset of the code from xmljs.sf.net and make an xml
class for dynapi that will allow us to work with xml
files directly in all dynapi supported browsers.

An one else like the idea?

--
Raymond Irving

--- Leif W <war...@us...> wrote:
> Looking through some old emails, saw this.  Sounds
> like an interesting idea
> (bring some XML support to older browsers through
> the API, and provide a
> uniform interface across browsers).  Wonder why
> noone replied.  :-)  Can you
> elaborate on a scenario or example where this would
> be used to handle
> things?  I'm not too familiar with XML and how it
> could be applied here.
> 
> Leif
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:32 AM
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > How about adding an XML class to the DynAPI
> library
> > that allows us to use xml documents in
> > ns4+,ie4+,moz,opera7+,etc?
> >
> > example:
> >
> > var xml = new XMLDoc();
> > var fl = new FileReader(function(){
> > var str = fl.read('customers.xml');
> > xml.loadXML(str);
> > var node = xml.selectNode('/tag1/tag/a/b/c');
> > if(node) alert(node.getText());
> > });
> >
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Well the whole idea is that we would probably take a
subset of the code from xmljs.sf.net and make an xml
class for dynapi that will allow us to work with xml
files directly in all dynapi supported browsers.

An one else like the idea?

--
Raymond Irving

--- Leif W <war...@us...> wrote:
> Looking through some old emails, saw this.  Sounds
> like an interesting idea
> (bring some XML support to older browsers through
> the API, and provide a
> uniform interface across browsers).  Wonder why
> noone replied.  :-)  Can you
> elaborate on a scenario or example where this would
> be used to handle
> things?  I'm not too familiar with XML and how it
> could be applied here.
> 
> Leif
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:32 AM
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] XML Class in DynAPI?
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > How about adding an XML class to the DynAPI
> library
> > that allows us to use xml documents in
> > ns4+,ie4+,moz,opera7+,etc?
> >
> > example:
> >
> > var xml = new XMLDoc();
> > var fl = new FileReader(function(){
> > var str = fl.read('customers.xml');
> > xml.loadXML(str);
> > var node = xml.selectNode('/tag1/tag/a/b/c');
> > if(node) alert(node.getText());
> > });
> >
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >
> > __________________________________
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