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From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-25 16:59:36
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>> I would like to see a poll of current users and developers for determining >> the primary focus: My personal feeling is that everything up to ns4.7 type browsers is dead and to develop for these browsers I feel is pointless. I have no plans for the IOS library or VDE to have backward compatibility to older browsers. A project like VDE (I believe) will never work in NS4.7 or MacIE5, and I/we should not spend trying to make it sorta work. There is just some things that those browsers where not meant to do and if you push them to hard they will totally slow down they system, freeze or you guest it... crash. Leaving the user with a bad DynAPI taste in their mouth. Other then that I'm in total agreement with Leif. DynoAPI funny :) Stay healthy :) Michael Den 03-10-23 16.08, skrev "Leif W" <war...@us...>: > Regarding old browsers or new browsers... if you need some support for a > browser, knock yourself out and write it. :-) Hopefully the support for all > browsers can coexist within the API? Or does the backward compatibility > (adding all the return values, etc, for NN 4.03) break the newer browsers? If > so, maybe there's a need to split support into two flavors? DynAPI for > current / modern browsers, and err, how about DynoAPI for the Dinosaurs. ;-) > > Leif > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: C Kissinger <mailto:cki...@ne...> >> To: dyn...@li... >> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:41 PM >> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support >> >> I first started using DynAPI because I needed a cross-browser solution for >> consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce web apps. This seemed to >> have been the original focus with CBScript and DynAPI2, but lately the focus >> seems to have changed to more of an advanced app factory (still a good >> thing). >> >> I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 snapshot for backwards >> compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is finished will probably >> serve me well into the distant future as a browser paleontologist. >> >> I would like to see a poll of current users and developers for determining >> the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider cross-browser support. >> With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for a JS wrapper API becomes >> less imperative. DynAPI has been great for both so far, but I see people >> wanting to move forward and drop support. I can't do that, but I'm sure >> DynAPI will still be great either way. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Christopher Kissinger >> Web Development Consultant >> >> >> |
From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-25 12:24:55
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Hi! This dont work for me... I get a error saying: 'this.elm.cleintWidth' is null or not an object. Any idee? /Daniel -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Michael Bystrom Sent: den 25 oktober 2003 11:01 To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Anchor Yep anchor will do it, but this is how I do it. Layer with regards to document size. middle = dynapi.document.addChild( new DynLayer("",0,0,500,500) ) resizeLayer = function () { var w = dynapi.document.getWidth()/2 - middle.getWidth()/2 var h = dynapi.document.getHeight()/2 - middle.getHeight()/2 middle.setLocation(w,h) } window.onresize = function () { resizeLayer() } Cheers Michael Note: If you have not done it you have to remove the if statement in getWith() and height inside the dyndocument.js otherwise dynapi does not get the new document size. p.getWidth = function() { //if (!this.w) this.findDimensions(); return this.w; }; p.getHeight = function() { //if (!this.h) this.findDimensions(); return this.h; }; Den 03-10-25 08.29, skrev "C Kissinger" <cki...@ne...>: > I know I've seen mydynlayer.setAnchor({centerH:left,centerV:top}) used > somewhere. I'm not exactly sure yet how to use anchors, but I hope > this helps. > > Christopher Kissinger > Web Development Consultant > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: dyn...@li... >>>> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of >>>> Daniel Tiru >>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 7:37 PM >>>> To: dyn...@li... >>>> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Anchor >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> If i have a layer that i need to positioned in the middle and it >>>> is 500,500 in size how do i do this? If the window is bigger the >>>> layer will still be in the middle and so on... I am stuck.. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Daniel ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Dev mailing list Dyn...@li... http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ |
From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-25 11:30:08
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Den 03-10-23 14.41, skrev "Daniel Tiru" <de...@ti...>: > Hi folks! >=20 > I was wondering, how are you going to implement widgets to the vde? I > mean, what values that need to be set and so on? I'm thinking of a plugin architecture where scripts and it's methods are called and created when called. > What i thought of, is that on all widget files, we make a header or > something, descibing what types of input the widget have. Maybee even > functions and methods? When a widget is called it should be created in the grid and it should be treated as one object. Just like flash. I don=B9t think this is a big problem= . But the widgets maybe have to be more VDE type specific. And I think that both events and widgets should not be "live" until you would preview the project. > What do you all think? It's gonna be fun :) =20 > Regards > Daniel |
From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-25 09:31:26
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Hej Michael! What would be really good in the vde is: When dragged a layer, and the layer is still active, the boxes should not be removed. If dragging a box on a layer, the layer could be resized. I could not rename a layer yesterday when i tried, is there some "special" way to do that or is that feature not implemented? Just some small idees. Regards Daniel -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Michael Bystrom Sent: den 23 oktober 2003 14:28 To: dyn...@li... Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc3 release VDE-0.1rc3 All functions are now working (I hope). :) Only one little thing with the way that image path is saved, have to think on this over a beer. I also wrote a VDE wrapper that lets you import the saved vde xml file directly into the dynapi, and it will recreate the project for you. Check the folder "import" I also gave Spock a little face lift so that it doesn't feel left out. If anybody got Ideas for the add event or add widget please let me know. And please help debug on windows http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php (at the bottom of the page VDE-0.1rc3) Michael ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Dev mailing list Dyn...@li... http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ |
From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-25 09:06:50
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Yep anchor will do it, but this is how I do it. Layer with regards to document size. middle = dynapi.document.addChild( new DynLayer("",0,0,500,500) ) resizeLayer = function () { var w = dynapi.document.getWidth()/2 - middle.getWidth()/2 var h = dynapi.document.getHeight()/2 - middle.getHeight()/2 middle.setLocation(w,h) } window.onresize = function () { resizeLayer() } Cheers Michael Note: If you have not done it you have to remove the if statement in getWith() and height inside the dyndocument.js otherwise dynapi does not get the new document size. p.getWidth = function() { //if (!this.w) this.findDimensions(); return this.w; }; p.getHeight = function() { //if (!this.h) this.findDimensions(); return this.h; }; Den 03-10-25 08.29, skrev "C Kissinger" <cki...@ne...>: > I know I've seen mydynlayer.setAnchor({centerH:left,centerV:top}) used > somewhere. > I'm not exactly sure yet how to use anchors, but I hope this helps. > > Christopher Kissinger > Web Development Consultant > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: dyn...@li... >>>> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf >>>> Of Daniel Tiru >>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 7:37 PM >>>> To: dyn...@li... >>>> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Anchor >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> If i have a layer that i need to positioned in the middle and it is >>>> 500,500 in size how do i do this? If the window is bigger >>>> the layer will >>>> still be in the middle and so on... I am stuck.. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Daniel |
From: C K. <cki...@ne...> - 2003-10-25 06:37:37
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I know I've seen mydynlayer.setAnchor({centerH:left,centerV:top}) used somewhere. I'm not exactly sure yet how to use anchors, but I hope this helps. Christopher Kissinger Web Development Consultant >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dyn...@li... >>> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf >>> Of Daniel Tiru >>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 7:37 PM >>> To: dyn...@li... >>> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Anchor >>> >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> If i have a layer that i need to positioned in the middle and it is >>> 500,500 in size how do i do this? If the window is bigger >>> the layer will >>> still be in the middle and so on... I am stuck.. >>> >>> Regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> |
From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-25 00:41:56
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Hi! If i have a layer that i need to positioned in the middle and it is 500,500 in size how do i do this? If the window is bigger the layer will still be in the middle and so on... I am stuck.. Regards Daniel |
From: <bo...@co...> - 2003-10-24 21:36:41
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2003. okt=F3ber 20. 19.06 d=E1tummal Raymond Irving ezt =EDrta: > use > setDragEnabled(true,{top:0,right:0,bottom:0,left:0},true); I try it, because it's not work. I can drag out of screen.=20 Any other idea? Cow |
From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-24 20:57:14
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Hello IE list folk. It's my mistake I know but I think that Mozilla is a better browser then Microsoft's IE and I missed this... I just booted IOS, VED and other in IE mac, win and all HELL broke loose I know dynapi3 is beta but still. p.setPageLocation = function(x,y) { if (this.isChild) { if (dynapi.ua.v>=5) { if (cx) this.css.pixelLeft = this.x; if (cy) this.css.pixelTop = this.y; } else { if (cx) this.css.left = this.x+"px"; if (cy) this.css.top = this.y+"px"; } } return this.setLocation(x,y); }; If i'm not mistaken it should look something like this. p.setPageLocation = function(x,y) { if (this.isChild) { if (x!=null) x = x - this.parent.getPageX(); if (y!=null) y = y - this.parent.getPageY(); } return this.setLocation(x,y); }; I did spend a lot of time making dynapi 2.55 Mac ie5 work on IOS and now I feel I'm back in the same spot. There is a lot more then this, Mac is VERRY particular with the way you create layers... Well I leave that for now. IE folks Please look over the code if you please Rock'n Roll Michael |
From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2003-10-24 20:50:14
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Possible a seperate "descripter" file. These would mean not loading the function outside of the VDE.. Like: DynTree.js and DynTree.Descriptor.js and put the descriptors in a seperate folder for managability. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Tiru" <de...@ti...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:19 AM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc3 release > Hi again! > > What i was thinking about is that we maybee make a separate "function" > for each widget that is implemented to the VDE returning the things > needed in a nice format. > > Like > getWidgetInfo(mywidget) { > // returns two arrays or something with all the arguments > // needed for the constructor and one with the methods for the > // widget. Maybee even some general info on what the widget is? > } > > Is this possible to do and how to do it, i dont know the answer but > myabee this solution can be a quite quick one? > > I agree with the adding of this project to the cvs. > > Regards > Daniel > > -----Original Message----- > From: dyn...@li... > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Raymond > Irving > Sent: den 23 oktober 2003 22:12 > To: dyn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc3 release > > > > See below: > > --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> > wrote: > > > > I also wrote a VDE wrapper that lets you import the > > saved vde xml file > > directly into the dynapi, and it will recreate the > > project for you. > > Not sure how this works but will look into it. > > > I also gave Spock a little face lift so that it > > doesn't feel left out. > > Ok, but now I can hardly see the button outlines. > > > If anybody got Ideas for the add event or add widget > > please let me know. > > Add widget should be the last thing that we do. It's > very complex and will require us to design a some kind > of header file as Daniel had suggested. > > I think add events to widgets should be much easier to > do. Here how I think it can be done: > > 1) Double click on a layer to open up a code window. > This window will contain a drop down menu of the > various events. > > 2) The user then selects the event and then enter som > code in a text box below the drop down menu and then > click ok. This should then save the text into some > events collection object. > > > And please help debug on windows > > Will do. > > Have you ever tried creating a very large project with > the vde? You should try it and then try saving and > loading the project to how it performs performs. > > SODA takes a longer time to convert a js object into > string and back than it would a js array. Where > possible it's best to use arrays. For the DataSource > class I had to use to following format inorder to get > better performance when working with lots of data. > > record={ > dataRowIndex:0, > dataRowCount:4, > fieldnames:['id','fname'], > fieldvalues:[ > [1,'mary'], > [1,'jane'], > [1,'john'], > [1,'paul'], > ] > } > > > -- > Raymond Irving > > > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php > > (at the bottom of the page VDE-0.1rc3) > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net > > Donation Program. > > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the > > Open > > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us > > add new > > features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you > like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make > a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click > here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new > features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/03 |
From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-24 19:11:15
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Hi Doug, It was written on Macintosh Mozilla and should run on all versions from 1.2 VDE has never had a crash on my Mac. Well not true IE5 crashed the original dynapi 2.55 version in beginning. I just started to debug IE6 Win on virtual PC and found some errors. Fu"""##""#" Don't worry I realy like to track down bugs so this will be fun. IT WILL work on IE6 no problems, just a few beers and SPOCK and I'm happy... Well my wife might have another opinion but... CheriomissSofie... Michael. Den 03-10-24 20.39, skrev "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>: > Hey, what browsers is the vde supposed to work in? > I can't draw layers in IE6 and Moz 1.3.1 crashed when I tried to draw a > layer. |
From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2003-10-24 18:38:54
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Hey, what browsers is the vde supposed to work in? I can't draw layers in IE6 and Moz 1.3.1 crashed when I tried to draw a layer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc3 release > > --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> > > > > This is the sytem I'm using now to collect the info > > > > array[array.length] = { > > dynlayer:c.name, > > x:c.getX(), > > y:c.getY(), > > w:c.getWidth(), > > h:c.getHeight(), > > color:c.getBgColor(), > > v:c.getVisible(), > > z:c.getZIndex(), > > img:c.getBgImage(), > > html:c.getHTML(), > > parent:c.parent.name, > > locked:c.isLocked, > > isVisible:c.isVisible, > > vislyr:c.vislyr, > > linkedTo:c.linkedTo, > > name:c.name, > > isRelative: c.isRelative > > } > > > > Isn't this the fastest way. There are no sub arrays > > or objects. > > Except for relative (not tested this feature with > > save and paste) > > They are all numbers and strings. > > > > ? > > I think this should be ok. We just will have to test > it. > > -- > Raymond Irving > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net > > Donation Program. > > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the > > Open > > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us > > add new > > features and functionality. Click here: > > http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new > features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/03 |
From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-24 18:19:49
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--- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> > > This is the sytem I'm using now to collect the info > > array[array.length] = { > dynlayer:c.name, > x:c.getX(), > y:c.getY(), > w:c.getWidth(), > h:c.getHeight(), > color:c.getBgColor(), > v:c.getVisible(), > z:c.getZIndex(), > img:c.getBgImage(), > html:c.getHTML(), > parent:c.parent.name, > locked:c.isLocked, > isVisible:c.isVisible, > vislyr:c.vislyr, > linkedTo:c.linkedTo, > name:c.name, > isRelative: c.isRelative > } > > Isn't this the fastest way. There are no sub arrays > or objects. > Except for relative (not tested this feature with > save and paste) > They are all numbers and strings. > > ? I think this should be ok. We just will have to test it. -- Raymond Irving > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net > Donation Program. > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the > Open > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us > add new > features and functionality. Click here: > http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-24 15:48:47
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Hi! I was thinking of a way to keep the widget and object documentation up to date better, that is that I could set up a database and make a webadmin to that so we could update the docs smoothly and have a better overview of what objects/widgets that needs to be documented, and what is missing and so on. Then for release we just make html of all the info stored in the db and add it to cvs. What do you all think of this? What type of data we need (fill in on this) Object Name or Widget Name Constructor with comments Properties with comments Functions with comments Private/public Methods with comments Examples We could also make a comment to each file so we all know what that file does. What do you think? Regards Daniel |
From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-24 15:45:27
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>> I also wrote a VDE wrapper that lets you import the >> saved vde xml file >> directly into the dynapi, and it will recreate the >> project for you. > > Not sure how this works but will look into it. It's a simple little thing could be useful later I. I have a gut feeling something like this will be needed >> I also gave Spock a little face lift so that it >> doesn't feel left out. > > Ok, but now I can hardly see the button outlines. ???? That odd they look fine on my TFT and my Radius >> If anybody got Ideas for the add event or add widget >> please let me know. > > I think add events to widgets should be much easier to > do. Here how I think it can be done: > > 1) Double click on a layer to open up a code window. > This window will contain a drop down menu of the > various events. > > 2) The user then selects the event and then enter som > code in a text box below the drop down menu and then > click ok. This should then save the text into some > events collection object. Ok thanks I have one idea that will try to do first. > Have you ever tried creating a very large project with > the vde? You should try it and then try saving and > loading the project to how it performs performs. > > SODA takes a longer time to convert a js object into > string and back than it would a js array. Where > possible it's best to use arrays. For the DataSource > class I had to use to following format inorder to get > better performance when working with lots of data. > > record={ > dataRowIndex:0, > dataRowCount:4, > fieldnames:['id','fname'], > fieldvalues:[ [1,'mary'], > [1,'jane'], > [1,'john'], > [1,'paul'], > ] > } This is the sytem I'm using now to collect the info array[array.length] = { dynlayer:c.name, x:c.getX(), y:c.getY(), w:c.getWidth(), h:c.getHeight(), color:c.getBgColor(), v:c.getVisible(), z:c.getZIndex(), img:c.getBgImage(), html:c.getHTML(), parent:c.parent.name, locked:c.isLocked, isVisible:c.isVisible, vislyr:c.vislyr, linkedTo:c.linkedTo, name:c.name, isRelative: c.isRelative } Isn't this the fastest way. There are no sub arrays or objects. Except for relative (not tested this feature with save and paste) They are all numbers and strings. ? |
From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-24 15:40:07
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Hi again! What i was thinking about is that we maybee make a separate "function" for each widget that is implemented to the VDE returning the things needed in a nice format. Like getWidgetInfo(mywidget) { // returns two arrays or something with all the arguments // needed for the constructor and one with the methods for the // widget. Maybee even some general info on what the widget is? } Is this possible to do and how to do it, i dont know the answer but myabee this solution can be a quite quick one? I agree with the adding of this project to the cvs. Regards Daniel -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Raymond Irving Sent: den 23 oktober 2003 22:12 To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] VDE-0.1rc3 release See below: --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> wrote: > > I also wrote a VDE wrapper that lets you import the > saved vde xml file > directly into the dynapi, and it will recreate the > project for you. Not sure how this works but will look into it. > I also gave Spock a little face lift so that it > doesn't feel left out. Ok, but now I can hardly see the button outlines. > If anybody got Ideas for the add event or add widget > please let me know. Add widget should be the last thing that we do. It's very complex and will require us to design a some kind of header file as Daniel had suggested. I think add events to widgets should be much easier to do. Here how I think it can be done: 1) Double click on a layer to open up a code window. This window will contain a drop down menu of the various events. 2) The user then selects the event and then enter som code in a text box below the drop down menu and then click ok. This should then save the text into some events collection object. > And please help debug on windows Will do. Have you ever tried creating a very large project with the vde? You should try it and then try saving and loading the project to how it performs performs. SODA takes a longer time to convert a js object into string and back than it would a js array. Where possible it's best to use arrays. For the DataSource class I had to use to following format inorder to get better performance when working with lots of data. record={ dataRowIndex:0, dataRowCount:4, fieldnames:['id','fname'], fieldvalues:[ [1,'mary'], [1,'jane'], [1,'john'], [1,'paul'], ] } -- Raymond Irving > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php > (at the bottom of the page VDE-0.1rc3) > > Michael > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net > Donation Program. > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the > Open > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us > add new > features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Dev mailing list Dyn...@li... http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ |
From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-24 11:08:54
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This might have something to do with NN4.03 and mouse_ns4.js. Something to do with the event listeners for the document object. -- Raymond Irving --- C Kissinger <cki...@ne...> wrote: > Well I got the examples from Create Layer to Hover > Animation in that > snapshot to work in old browsers now (except > TabManager because my laptop > doesn't have a separate numeric keypad with arrows), > but one major stumbling > block which maybe someone can answer. In NN4.03 > almost all examples shoot a > "JavaScript Error: too much recursion" onmousedown > and onmouseup in document > areas of the page. Two of the same error for every > click. Any ideas? > > Christopher Kissinger > Web Development Consultant > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: dyn...@li... > >>> [mailto:dyn...@li...] > On Behalf > >>> Of Raymond Irving > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:09 PM > >>> To: dyn...@li... > >>> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I say we also try and include NN 4.03 but it's > just > >>> that NN4.03 has a major problem with functions > not > >>> return a value. > >>> > >>> "With the DOM, anything is possible, so the > need for a > >>> JS wrapper API becomes less imperative." > >>> > >>> I don't think so! I thought that DOM-Browsers > would > >>> make DynAPI go away but I was wrong. Over the > past few > >>> months I've had nightmares trying to get apps > to > >>> display and work the same in all three of the > major > >>> browsers. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Raymond Irving > >>> > >>> --- C Kissinger <cki...@ne...> > wrote: > >>> > I first started using DynAPI because I needed > a > >>> > cross-browser solution for > >>> > consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in > ecommerce > >>> > web apps. This seemed > >>> > to have been the original focus with CBScript > and > >>> > DynAPI2, but lately the > >>> > focus seems to have changed to more of an > advanced > >>> > app factory (still a good > >>> > thing). > >>> > > >>> > I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. > 4, 2003 > >>> > snapshot for backwards > >>> > compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when > it is > >>> > finished will probably > >>> > serve me well into the distant future as a > browser > >>> > paleontologist. > >>> > > >>> > I would like to see a poll of current users > and > >>> > developers for determining > >>> > the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. > wider > >>> > cross-browser support. > >>> > With the DOM, anything is possible, so the > need for > >>> > a JS wrapper API becomes > >>> > less imperative. DynAPI has been great for > both so > >>> > far, but I see people > >>> > wanting to move forward and drop support. I > can't do > >>> > that, but I'm sure > >>> > DynAPI will still be great either way. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks! > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Christopher Kissinger > >>> > Web Development Consultant > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> __________________________________ > >>> Do you Yahoo!? > >>> The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > >>> http://shopping.yahoo.com > >>> > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer > relations > Here's your chance to show off your extensive > product knowledge > We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have > a chance to win $100 > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2003-10-24 08:02:21
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"JavaScript Error: too much recursion" does not nessesarily mean just recursion. It can also be triggered by a very large loop. Generally though, it will be tiggered by a recursive loop, just as one that manipulates children. I found in previous version I got the error in my tree widget. and sometimes saw the error when using methods such as DynAPI.Document.all(). Other potential areas are any method which tries to access all children of a layer. so deleteallchildren and the such. You best bet is to find each recursive function and add a debuggin message so that you will know which function is genreating the error. ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Kissinger" <cki...@ne...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:06 AM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support > Well I got the examples from Create Layer to Hover Animation in that > snapshot to work in old browsers now (except TabManager because my laptop > doesn't have a separate numeric keypad with arrows), but one major stumbling > block which maybe someone can answer. In NN4.03 almost all examples shoot a > c onmousedown and onmouseup in document > areas of the page. Two of the same error for every click. Any ideas? > > Christopher Kissinger > Web Development Consultant > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: dyn...@li... > >>> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf > >>> Of Raymond Irving > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:09 PM > >>> To: dyn...@li... > >>> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I say we also try and include NN 4.03 but it's just > >>> that NN4.03 has a major problem with functions not > >>> return a value. > >>> > >>> "With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for a > >>> JS wrapper API becomes less imperative." > >>> > >>> I don't think so! I thought that DOM-Browsers would > >>> make DynAPI go away but I was wrong. Over the past few > >>> months I've had nightmares trying to get apps to > >>> display and work the same in all three of the major > >>> browsers. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Raymond Irving > >>> > >>> --- C Kissinger <cki...@ne...> wrote: > >>> > I first started using DynAPI because I needed a > >>> > cross-browser solution for > >>> > consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce > >>> > web apps. This seemed > >>> > to have been the original focus with CBScript and > >>> > DynAPI2, but lately the > >>> > focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced > >>> > app factory (still a good > >>> > thing). > >>> > > >>> > I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 > >>> > snapshot for backwards > >>> > compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is > >>> > finished will probably > >>> > serve me well into the distant future as a browser > >>> > paleontologist. > >>> > > >>> > I would like to see a poll of current users and > >>> > developers for determining > >>> > the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider > >>> > cross-browser support. > >>> > With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for > >>> > a JS wrapper API becomes > >>> > less imperative. DynAPI has been great for both so > >>> > far, but I see people > >>> > wanting to move forward and drop support. I can't do > >>> > that, but I'm sure > >>> > DynAPI will still be great either way. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks! > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Christopher Kissinger > >>> > Web Development Consultant > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> __________________________________ > >>> Do you Yahoo!? > >>> The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > >>> http://shopping.yahoo.com > >>> > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations > Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge > We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.529 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 10/16/03 |
From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-23 20:16:32
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See below: --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> wrote: > > I also wrote a VDE wrapper that lets you import the > saved vde xml file > directly into the dynapi, and it will recreate the > project for you. Not sure how this works but will look into it. > I also gave Spock a little face lift so that it > doesn't feel left out. Ok, but now I can hardly see the button outlines. > If anybody got Ideas for the add event or add widget > please let me know. Add widget should be the last thing that we do. It's very complex and will require us to design a some kind of header file as Daniel had suggested. I think add events to widgets should be much easier to do. Here how I think it can be done: 1) Double click on a layer to open up a code window. This window will contain a drop down menu of the various events. 2) The user then selects the event and then enter som code in a text box below the drop down menu and then click ok. This should then save the text into some events collection object. > And please help debug on windows Will do. Have you ever tried creating a very large project with the vde? You should try it and then try saving and loading the project to how it performs performs. SODA takes a longer time to convert a js object into string and back than it would a js array. Where possible it's best to use arrays. For the DataSource class I had to use to following format inorder to get better performance when working with lots of data. record={ dataRowIndex:0, dataRowCount:4, fieldnames:['id','fname'], fieldvalues:[ [1,'mary'], [1,'jane'], [1,'john'], [1,'paul'], ] } -- Raymond Irving > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php > (at the bottom of the page VDE-0.1rc3) > > Michael > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net > Donation Program. > Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the > Open > Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us > add new > features and functionality. Click here: > http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
From: Daniel T. <de...@ti...> - 2003-10-23 18:41:38
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Hi folks! I was wondering, how are you going to implement widgets to the vde? I mean, what values that need to be set and so on? What i thought of, is that on all widget files, we make a header or something, descibing what types of input the widget have. Maybee even functions and methods? What do you all think? Regards Daniel -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Raymond Irving Sent: den 22 oktober 2003 23:12 To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready I'm glad to hear that it's working fine. Let's have a cup of SODA :) -- Raymond Irving --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> wrote: > Raymond, > > Exactly what I needed :) > > I've implemented this SODA feature and it looks like > it's working fine ( I > had to change some of the copy and paste methods), I > will just do some more > fine tuning and then I upload it with some other > fixes. > > Cheers > Michael > > > Den 03-10-21 18.50, skrev "Raymond Irving" > <xw...@ya...>: > > > > Wow! Visual DynAPI Editor is here and it's looking > > real good! > > > >> From my test it works in Mozilla 1.4 on windows! > > > > Lot's of stuff to comment on but I'll only focus > on > > the save and load feature for now: > > > > Why not use the SODA format to convert a > JavaScript > > object into XML and then save that format to disk? > > When loading all you have to do is to use > FileReader > > and load the project then convert the info back > into a > > JavaScript object using SODA. > > > > Example: > > > > p = {}; // new project object > > p.name = "VDE Demo"; > > p.layers = []; // collection, etc > > p.whatever_goes_here = some_value_here; > > > > // convert js object into XML format > > data = IOElement.ws_Var2SODA(p); > > .... > > // save the data to disk > > ..... > > > > // load data using FileReader > > ... > > // convert data back to js object > > p = IOElement.ws_SODA2Var(data); > > ... > > // now you can use p as you would any js object > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > -- > > Raymond Irving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> > > wrote: > >> Hello List Folk, > >> > >> Well I've finished my first version of the VDE > >> (Visual DynAPI Editor) I've > >> changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a > nice > >> ring to it. > >> > >> Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So > here > >> goes. > >> > >> > >> THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA. > >> And is working fine. So now you know. > >> > >> > >> I don?t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4 > >> support. > >> Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on > >> fully DOM browsers. > >> > >> > >> I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I > don't > >> think it will ever.... > >> > >> 1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten. > >> 2) I changed the way that the layers are created > >> using a marker script. > >> Click on the add button, click on the grid and > drag > >> the maker to the size > >> you'd like. Also the it will automatically use > the > >> clicked layer as the > >> parent layer. > >> 3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and > hold > >> still for 400 ms and > >> you are in edit mode and do your thing then > simple > >> click will reset. > >> 4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you > >> click will be deleted (and > >> childern) checkbox will reset when you click on > it > >> again. > >> 5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode > >> 6) lock is also in checkbox mode > >> 7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the > button > >> then click on the > >> layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste > >> button and then on > >> Grid/layers you want the copy to past to. > >> 8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button, > >> then layer, then where you > >> want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change > this > >> so that you can add the > >> layers at a later time) > >> 9) visibility is in checkbox mode ' > >> 10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the > >> layers you want to link > >> To remove or add click on the button and hold > down > >> for 400ms and you will be > >> in edit mode then you can remove or add. The > first > >> layer you click in edit > >> mode will be the parent and the rest will be > linked > >> of removed from/to this > >> layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And > I > >> don't know if it should > >> allow a link to children outside it's parent > layer. > >> > >> 11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML > ,save > >> DVE because I would like > >> a new save system. Here is my idea I would like > to > >> use a XML file as the > >> save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could > >> import as a premade widget > >> sorta like this. > >> > >> dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml") > >> > >> And then dynapi creates the project without any > >> code. This is how the IOS > >> will load all it's components. So I ask you if > you > >> have ideas or anything > >> > >> 12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the > >> boxes where you would write > >> the size and location you can now use %. "50%" > etc.. > >> > >> 13) color working but I'm not done with it... > >> 14) Image is not working yet. > >> 15) I included the new spock debuger as main info > >> window. note that I will > >> probably change some of the info structure, It's > >> sorta in debug mode but I > >> tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use > :) > >> > >> That?s it for now. Please let me know what you > think > >> and PLEASE help me > >> debug it on windows. If you have a code question > >> mail the list and I'll try > >> to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try > to > >> trace a object to see > >> what it does use use ex: > >> > >> dump( o.getX() ) > >> > >> > >> IOS library is also done but I'll have not > collected > >> all the examples and > >> code but I will have that for you in a day or so. > >> > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! 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From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-23 16:34:05
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VDE-0.1rc3 All functions are now working (I hope). :) Only one little thing with the way that image path is saved, have to think on this over a beer. I also wrote a VDE wrapper that lets you import the saved vde xml file directly into the dynapi, and it will recreate the project for you. Check the folder "import" I also gave Spock a little face lift so that it doesn't feel left out. If anybody got Ideas for the add event or add widget please let me know. And please help debug on windows http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php (at the bottom of the page VDE-0.1rc3) Michael |
From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2003-10-23 15:25:32
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MessageRegarding old browsers or new browsers... if you need some = support for a browser, knock yourself out and write it. :-) Hopefully = the support for all browsers can coexist within the API? Or does the = backward compatibility (adding all the return values, etc, for NN 4.03) = break the newer browsers? If so, maybe there's a need to split support = into two flavors? DynAPI for current / modern browsers, and err, how = about DynoAPI for the Dinosaurs. ;-) Leif ----- Original Message -----=20 From: C Kissinger=20 To: dyn...@li...=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support I first started using DynAPI because I needed a cross-browser solution = for consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce web apps. This = seemed to have been the original focus with CBScript and DynAPI2, but = lately the focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced app = factory (still a good thing). I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 snapshot for = backwards compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is finished = will probably serve me well into the distant future as a browser = paleontologist. I would like to see a poll of current users and developers for = determining the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider = cross-browser support. With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need = for a JS wrapper API becomes less imperative. DynAPI has been great for = both so far, but I see people wanting to move forward and drop support. = I can't do that, but I'm sure DynAPI will still be great either way. Thanks! Christopher Kissinger=20 Web Development Consultant |
From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2003-10-23 13:29:06
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Hi Michael, Please submit a news item about the VDE on the dynapi website as well: http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/submit.php?menu=21 I think it's now time I create that vde folder in the dynapi CVS on sourceforge, everyone agree? PS. I will be joinin the development of the VDE as soon as I get a few things out of the way. I think it would be cool if we could get the vde to work with a unmodified version of the dynapi. That means that anyone could download dynapi3 and vde and then update the version of dynapi that vde uses. But thats just an idea and is not very important at this point. One other thing I've noticed is that when in edit mode and I try to select a layer B other than the one being edited, layer B shifts to the position of the layer that's selected (or edited). Keep up the good work. Best regard, -- Raymond Irving --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...> wrote: > I deiced on a version system 0.1rc2 this will > hopefully > > Important if you change name of the folder you need > to change it inside the > "vde.js" script file. The parameter you need to > change is the > > dynapi.vdeName ="VDE-0.1rc2" > > So if you change the folder name to "Jabberwocky" > you need to change this > dynapi.vdeName = "Jabberwocky" > > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php > > > Michael > > > Den 03-10-23 02.30, skrev "Michael Bystrom" > <mi...@mi...>: > > > Version 2.1 is ready > > > > SODA is working you can now load saved files > > Preview, save, load, save html > > > > There are examples in the "example" folder. > > > > Changed some of the structure and fixed some bugs > here and there. > > New splash graphics and new welcome page > > > > Version tag is now living inside the vde.js > > This will change for each update. > > So the welcome screen shows what version you are > using > > I will add this to spock to :) > > > > To download at the bottom of the page > > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php > > > > I know I forgot to change the name will do that > tomorrow > > I need to sleep now :P > > > > Michael > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer > relations > Here's your chance to show off your extensive > product knowledge > We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have > a chance to win $100 > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com |
From: C K. <cki...@ne...> - 2003-10-23 07:07:36
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Well I got the examples from Create Layer to Hover Animation in that snapshot to work in old browsers now (except TabManager because my = laptop doesn't have a separate numeric keypad with arrows), but one major = stumbling block which maybe someone can answer. In NN4.03 almost all examples = shoot a "JavaScript Error: too much recursion" onmousedown and onmouseup in = document areas of the page. Two of the same error for every click. Any ideas? Christopher Kissinger=20 Web Development Consultant >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: dyn...@li...=20 >>> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf=20 >>> Of Raymond Irving >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:09 PM >>> To: dyn...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> I say we also try and include NN 4.03 but it's just >>> that NN4.03 has a major problem with functions not >>> return a value. >>> =20 >>> "With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for a >>> JS wrapper API becomes less imperative." >>> =20 >>> I don't think so! I thought that DOM-Browsers would >>> make DynAPI go away but I was wrong. Over the past few >>> months I've had nightmares trying to get apps to >>> display and work the same in all three of the major >>> browsers. >>> =20 >>> -- >>> Raymond Irving >>> =20 >>> --- C Kissinger <cki...@ne...> wrote: >>> > I first started using DynAPI because I needed a >>> > cross-browser solution for >>> > consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce >>> > web apps. This seemed >>> > to have been the original focus with CBScript and >>> > DynAPI2, but lately the >>> > focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced >>> > app factory (still a good >>> > thing). >>> > =20 >>> > I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 >>> > snapshot for backwards >>> > compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is >>> > finished will probably >>> > serve me well into the distant future as a browser >>> > paleontologist. >>> > =20 >>> > I would like to see a poll of current users and >>> > developers for determining >>> > the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider >>> > cross-browser support. >>> > With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for >>> > a JS wrapper API becomes >>> > less imperative. DynAPI has been great for both so >>> > far, but I see people >>> > wanting to move forward and drop support. I can't do >>> > that, but I'm sure >>> > DynAPI will still be great either way. >>> > =20 >>> > Thanks! >>> > =20 >>> >=20 >>> > Christopher Kissinger=20 >>> > Web Development Consultant >>> >=20 >>> >=20 >>> > =20 >>> >=20 >>> >=20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >>> http://shopping.yahoo.com >>> =20 >>> =20 |
From: Michael B. <mi...@mi...> - 2003-10-23 06:50:13
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I deiced on a version system 0.1rc2 this will hopefully Important if you change name of the folder you need to change it inside the "vde.js" script file. The parameter you need to change is the dynapi.vdeName ="VDE-0.1rc2" So if you change the folder name to "Jabberwocky" you need to change this dynapi.vdeName = "Jabberwocky" http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php Michael Den 03-10-23 02.30, skrev "Michael Bystrom" <mi...@mi...>: > Version 2.1 is ready > > SODA is working you can now load saved files > Preview, save, load, save html > > There are examples in the "example" folder. > > Changed some of the structure and fixed some bugs here and there. > New splash graphics and new welcome page > > Version tag is now living inside the vde.js > This will change for each update. > So the welcome screen shows what version you are using > I will add this to spock to :) > > To download at the bottom of the page > http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php > > I know I forgot to change the name will do that tomorrow > I need to sleep now :P > > Michael |