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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

Version 2.1 is ready

SODA is working you can now load saved files
Preview, save, load, save html

There are examples in the "example" folder.

Changed some of the structure and fixed some bugs here and there.
New splash graphics and new welcome page

Version tag is now living inside the  vde.js
This will change for each update.
So the welcome screen shows what version you are using
I will add this to spock to :)

To download at the bottom of the page
http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php

I know I forgot to change the name will do that tomorrow
I need to sleep now :P

Michael

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

We should have a release early next year.

--
Raymond Irving

--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> MessageI understood we where still supporting NS 4
> and IE 4
> Although it is true that not many people actually
> test in these browsers.
> 
> When I am finished my current contract (assuming I
> don't sign another) I will devote some time
> to a complete end-to-end testing of DynAPI..
> 
> What was that tentative release date?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: C Kissinger 
>   To: dyn...@li... 
>   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:41 PM
>   Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support
> 
> 
>   I first started using DynAPI because I needed a
> cross-browser solution for consistency across
> DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce web apps. This
> seemed to have been the original focus with CBScript
> and DynAPI2, but lately the focus seems to have
> changed to more of an advanced app factory (still a
> good thing).
> 
>   I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4,
> 2003 snapshot for backwards compatibility with
> NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is finished will
> probably serve me well into the distant future as a
> browser paleontologist.
> 
>   I would like to see a poll of current users and
> developers for determining the primary focus:
> advanced functionality vs. wider cross-browser
> support. With the DOM, anything is possible, so the
> need for a JS wrapper API becomes less imperative.
> DynAPI has been great for both so far, but I see
> people wanting to move forward and drop support. I
> can't do that, but I'm sure DynAPI will still be
> great either way.
> 
>   Thanks!
> 
>   Christopher Kissinger 
>   Web Development Consultant
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

MessageThe focus should include NS4 & IE4 as IMO that is what makes =
Dynapi3.
DOM only APIs are out there but do we want another one?

-
Kevin
=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: C Kissinger=20
  To: dyn...@li...=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:41 PM
  Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support


  I first started using DynAPI because I needed a cross-browser solution =
for consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce web apps. This =
seemed to have been the original focus with CBScript and DynAPI2, but =
lately the focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced app =
factory (still a good thing).

  I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 snapshot for =
backwards compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is finished =
will probably serve me well into the distant future as a browser =
paleontologist.

  I would like to see a poll of current users and developers for =
determining the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider =
cross-browser support. With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need =
for a JS wrapper API becomes less imperative. DynAPI has been great for =
both so far, but I see people wanting to move forward and drop support. =
I can't do that, but I'm sure DynAPI will still be great either way.

  Thanks!

  Christopher Kissinger=20
  Web Development Consultant

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

I'm glad to hear that it's working fine.

Let's have a cup of SODA :)

--
Raymond Irving

--- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
wrote:
> Raymond,
> 
> Exactly what I needed :)
> 
> I've implemented this SODA feature and it looks like
> it's working fine ( I
> had to change some of the copy and paste methods), I
> will just do some more
> fine tuning and then I upload it with some other
> fixes.
> 
> Cheers 
> Michael
> 
> 
> Den 03-10-21 18.50, skrev "Raymond Irving"
> <xw...@ya...>:
> > 
> > Wow! Visual DynAPI Editor is here and it's looking
> > real good!
> > 
> >> From my test it works in Mozilla 1.4 on windows!
> > 
> > Lot's of stuff to comment on but I'll only focus
> on
> > the save and load feature for now:
> > 
> > Why not use the SODA format to convert a
> JavaScript
> > object into XML and then save that format to disk?
> > When loading all you have to do is to use
> FileReader
> > and load the project then convert the info back
> into a
> > JavaScript object using SODA.
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> > p = {}; // new project object
> > p.name = "VDE Demo";
> > p.layers = []; // collection, etc
> > p.whatever_goes_here = some_value_here;
> > 
> > // convert js object into XML format
> > data = IOElement.ws_Var2SODA(p);
> > ....
> > // save the data to disk
> > .....
> > 
> > // load data using FileReader
> > ...
> > // convert data back to js object
> > p = IOElement.ws_SODA2Var(data);
> > ...
> > // now you can use p as you would any js object
> > 
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
> > wrote:
> >> Hello List Folk,
> >> 
> >> Well I've finished my first version of the VDE
> >> (Visual DynAPI Editor) I've
> >> changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a
> nice
> >> ring to it.
> >> 
> >> Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So
> here
> >> goes.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA.
> >> And is working fine. So now you know.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I don?t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4
> >> support.
> >> Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on
> >> fully DOM browsers.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I
> don't
> >> think it will ever....
> >> 
> >> 1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten.
> >> 2) I changed the way that the layers are created
> >> using a marker script.
> >> Click on the add button, click on the grid and
> drag
> >> the maker to the size
> >> you'd like. Also the it will automatically use
> the
> >> clicked layer as the
> >> parent layer.
> >> 3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and
> hold
> >> still for 400 ms and
> >> you are in edit mode and do your thing then
> simple
> >> click will reset.
> >> 4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you
> >> click will be deleted (and
> >> childern) checkbox will reset when you click on
> it
> >> again.
> >> 5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode
> >> 6) lock is also in checkbox mode
> >> 7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the
> button
> >> then click on the
> >> layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste
> >> button and then on
> >> Grid/layers you want the copy to past to.
> >> 8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button,
> >> then layer, then where you
> >> want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change
> this
> >> so that you can add the
> >> layers at a later time)
> >> 9) visibility is in checkbox mode '
> >> 10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the
> >> layers you want to link
> >> To remove or add click on the button and hold
> down
> >> for 400ms and you will be
> >> in edit mode then you can remove or add. The
> first
> >> layer you click in edit
> >> mode will be the parent and the rest will be
> linked
> >> of removed from/to this
> >> layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And
> I
> >> don't know if it should
> >> allow a link to children outside it's parent
> layer.
> >> 
> >> 11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML
> ,save
> >> DVE because I would like
> >> a new save system. Here is my idea I would like
> to
> >> use a XML file as the
> >> save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could
> >> import as a premade widget
> >> sorta like this.
> >> 
> >> dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml")
> >> 
> >> And then dynapi creates the project without any
> >> code. This is how the IOS
> >> will load all it's components. So I ask you if
> you
> >> have ideas or anything
> >> 
> >> 12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the
> >> boxes where you would write
> >> the size and location you can now use %. "50%"
> etc..
> >> 
> >> 13) color working but I'm not done with it...
> >> 14) Image is not working yet.
> >> 15) I included the new spock debuger as main info
> >> window. note that I will
> >> probably change some of the info structure, It's
> >> sorta in debug mode but I
> >> tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use
> :)
> >> 
> >> That?s it for now. Please let me know what you
> think
> >> and PLEASE help me
> >> debug it on windows. If you have a code question
> >> mail the list and I'll try
> >> to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try
> to
> >> trace a object to see
> >> what it does use use ex:
> >> 
> >> dump( o.getX() )
> >> 
> >> 
> >> IOS library is also done but I'll have not
> collected
> >> all the examples and
> >> code but I will have that for you in a day or so.
> >> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

I say we also try and include NN 4.03 but it's just
that NN4.03 has a major problem with functions not
return a value.

"With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for a
JS wrapper API becomes less imperative."

I don't think so! I thought that DOM-Browsers would
make DynAPI go away but I was wrong. Over the past few
months I've had nightmares trying to get apps to
display and work the same in all three of the major
browsers.

--
Raymond Irving
 
--- C Kissinger <cki...@ne...> wrote:
> I first started using DynAPI because I needed a
> cross-browser solution for
> consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce
> web apps. This seemed
> to have been the original focus with CBScript and
> DynAPI2, but lately the
> focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced
> app factory (still a good
> thing).
>  
> I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003
> snapshot for backwards
> compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is
> finished will probably
> serve me well into the distant future as a browser
> paleontologist.
>  
> I would like to see a poll of current users and
> developers for determining
> the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider
> cross-browser support.
> With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for
> a JS wrapper API becomes
> less imperative. DynAPI has been great for both so
> far, but I see people
> wanting to move forward and drop support. I can't do
> that, but I'm sure
> DynAPI will still be great either way.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> 
> Christopher Kissinger 
> Web Development Consultant
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

MessageI understood we where still supporting NS 4 and IE 4
Although it is true that not many people actually test in these =
browsers.

When I am finished my current contract (assuming I don't sign another) I =
will devote some time
to a complete end-to-end testing of DynAPI..

What was that tentative release date?
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: C Kissinger=20
  To: dyn...@li...=20
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:41 PM
  Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support


  I first started using DynAPI because I needed a cross-browser solution =
for consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce web apps. This =
seemed to have been the original focus with CBScript and DynAPI2, but =
lately the focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced app =
factory (still a good thing).

  I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 snapshot for =
backwards compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is finished =
will probably serve me well into the distant future as a browser =
paleontologist.

  I would like to see a poll of current users and developers for =
determining the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider =
cross-browser support. With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need =
for a JS wrapper API becomes less imperative. DynAPI has been great for =
both so far, but I see people wanting to move forward and drop support. =
I can't do that, but I'm sure DynAPI will still be great either way.

  Thanks!

  Christopher Kissinger=20
  Web Development Consultant





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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

Raymond,

Exactly what I needed :)

I've implemented this SODA feature and it looks like it's working fine ( I
had to change some of the copy and paste methods), I will just do some more
fine tuning and then I upload it with some other fixes.

Cheers 
Michael


Den 03-10-21 18.50, skrev "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>:
> 
> Wow! Visual DynAPI Editor is here and it's looking
> real good!
> 
>> From my test it works in Mozilla 1.4 on windows!
> 
> Lot's of stuff to comment on but I'll only focus on
> the save and load feature for now:
> 
> Why not use the SODA format to convert a JavaScript
> object into XML and then save that format to disk?
> When loading all you have to do is to use FileReader
> and load the project then convert the info back into a
> JavaScript object using SODA.
> 
> Example:
> 
> p = {}; // new project object
> p.name = "VDE Demo";
> p.layers = []; // collection, etc
> p.whatever_goes_here = some_value_here;
> 
> // convert js object into XML format
> data = IOElement.ws_Var2SODA(p);
> ....
> // save the data to disk
> .....
> 
> // load data using FileReader
> ...
> // convert data back to js object
> p = IOElement.ws_SODA2Var(data);
> ...
> // now you can use p as you would any js object
> 
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
> wrote:
>> Hello List Folk,
>> 
>> Well I've finished my first version of the VDE
>> (Visual DynAPI Editor) I've
>> changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a nice
>> ring to it.
>> 
>> Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So here
>> goes.
>> 
>> 
>> THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA.
>> And is working fine. So now you know.
>> 
>> 
>> I don?t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4
>> support.
>> Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on
>> fully DOM browsers.
>> 
>> 
>> I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I don't
>> think it will ever....
>> 
>> 1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten.
>> 2) I changed the way that the layers are created
>> using a marker script.
>> Click on the add button, click on the grid and drag
>> the maker to the size
>> you'd like. Also the it will automatically use the
>> clicked layer as the
>> parent layer.
>> 3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and hold
>> still for 400 ms and
>> you are in edit mode and do your thing then simple
>> click will reset.
>> 4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you
>> click will be deleted (and
>> childern) checkbox will reset when you click on it
>> again.
>> 5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode
>> 6) lock is also in checkbox mode
>> 7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the button
>> then click on the
>> layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste
>> button and then on
>> Grid/layers you want the copy to past to.
>> 8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button,
>> then layer, then where you
>> want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change this
>> so that you can add the
>> layers at a later time)
>> 9) visibility is in checkbox mode '
>> 10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the
>> layers you want to link
>> To remove or add click on the button and hold down
>> for 400ms and you will be
>> in edit mode then you can remove or add. The first
>> layer you click in edit
>> mode will be the parent and the rest will be linked
>> of removed from/to this
>> layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And I
>> don't know if it should
>> allow a link to children outside it's parent layer.
>> 
>> 11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML ,save
>> DVE because I would like
>> a new save system. Here is my idea I would like to
>> use a XML file as the
>> save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could
>> import as a premade widget
>> sorta like this.
>> 
>> dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml")
>> 
>> And then dynapi creates the project without any
>> code. This is how the IOS
>> will load all it's components. So I ask you if you
>> have ideas or anything
>> 
>> 12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the
>> boxes where you would write
>> the size and location you can now use %. "50%" etc..
>> 
>> 13) color working but I'm not done with it...
>> 14) Image is not working yet.
>> 15) I included the new spock debuger as main info
>> window. note that I will
>> probably change some of the info structure, It's
>> sorta in debug mode but I
>> tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use :)
>> 
>> That?s it for now. Please let me know what you think
>> and PLEASE help me
>> debug it on windows. If you have a code question
>> mail the list and I'll try
>> to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try to
>> trace a object to see
>> what it does use use ex:
>> 
>> dump( o.getX() )
>> 
>> 
>> IOS library is also done but I'll have not collected
>> all the examples and
>> code but I will have that for you in a day or so.
>> 
>> You can download it here (at the bottom of the page)
>> http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php
>> 
>> Have fun.
>> Michael

[Dynapi-Dev] Old Browser Support

[C K. <cki...@ne...>]

I first started using DynAPI because I needed a cross-browser solution =
for
consistency across DOM/non-DOM browsers in ecommerce web apps. This =
seemed
to have been the original focus with CBScript and DynAPI2, but lately =
the
focus seems to have changed to more of an advanced app factory (still a =
good
thing).
=20
I am still busy trying to port DynAPI3 Oct. 4, 2003 snapshot for =
backwards
compatibility with NN4.03 and IE4, which when it is finished will =
probably
serve me well into the distant future as a browser paleontologist.
=20
I would like to see a poll of current users and developers for =
determining
the primary focus: advanced functionality vs. wider cross-browser =
support.
With the DOM, anything is possible, so the need for a JS wrapper API =
becomes
less imperative. DynAPI has been great for both so far, but I see people
wanting to move forward and drop support. I can't do that, but I'm sure
DynAPI will still be great either way.
=20
Thanks!
=20

Christopher Kissinger=20
Web Development Consultant


=20

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Wow! Visual DynAPI Editor is here and it's looking
real good!

From my test it works in Mozilla 1.4 on windows!

Lot's of stuff to comment on but I'll only focus on
the save and load feature for now:

Why not use the SODA format to convert a JavaScript
object into XML and then save that format to disk?
When loading all you have to do is to use FileReader
and load the project then convert the info back into a
JavaScript object using SODA.

Example:

p = {}; // new project object
p.name = "VDE Demo";
p.layers = []; // collection, etc
p.whatever_goes_here = some_value_here;

// convert js object into XML format
data = IOElement.ws_Var2SODA(p);
....
// save the data to disk
.....

// load data using FileReader
...
// convert data back to js object
p = IOElement.ws_SODA2Var(data);
...
// now you can use p as you would any js object


What do you think?


--
Raymond Irving







--- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
wrote:
> Hello List Folk,
> 
> Well I've finished my first version of the VDE
> (Visual DynAPI Editor) I've
> changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a nice
> ring to it.
> 
> Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So here
> goes.
> 
> 
> THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA.
> And is working fine. So now you know.
> 
> 
> I don¹t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4
> support.
> Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on
> fully DOM browsers.
> 
> 
> I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I don't
> think it will ever....
> 
> 1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten.
> 2) I changed the way that the layers are created
> using a marker script.
> Click on the add button, click on the grid and drag
> the maker to the size
> you'd like. Also the it will automatically use the
> clicked layer as the
> parent layer.
> 3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and hold
> still for 400 ms and
> you are in edit mode and do your thing then simple
> click will reset.
> 4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you
> click will be deleted (and
> childern) checkbox will reset when you click on it
> again.
> 5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode
> 6) lock is also in checkbox mode
> 7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the button
> then click on the
> layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste
> button and then on
> Grid/layers you want the copy to past to.
> 8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button,
> then layer, then where you
> want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change this
> so that you can add the
> layers at a later time)
> 9) visibility is in checkbox mode '
> 10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the
> layers you want to link
> To remove or add click on the button and hold down
> for 400ms and you will be
> in edit mode then you can remove or add. The first
> layer you click in edit
> mode will be the parent and the rest will be linked
> of removed from/to this
> layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And I
> don't know if it should
> allow a link to children outside it's parent layer.
> 
> 11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML ,save
> DVE because I would like
> a new save system. Here is my idea I would like to
> use a XML file as the
> save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could
> import as a premade widget
> sorta like this.
> 
> dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml")
> 
> And then dynapi creates the project without any
> code. This is how the IOS
> will load all it's components. So I ask you if you
> have ideas or anything
> 
> 12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the
> boxes where you would write
> the size and location you can now use %. "50%" etc..
> 
> 13) color working but I'm not done with it...
> 14) Image is not working yet.
> 15) I included the new spock debuger as main info
> window. note that I will
> probably change some of the info structure, It's
> sorta in debug mode but I
> tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use :)
> 
> That¹s it for now. Please let me know what you think
> and PLEASE help me
> debug it on windows. If you have a code question
> mail the list and I'll try
> to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try to
> trace a object to see
> what it does use use ex:
> 
> dump( o.getX() ) 
> 
> 
> IOS library is also done but I'll have not collected
> all the examples and
> code but I will have that for you in a day or so.
> 
> You can download it here (at the bottom of the page)
> http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php
> 
> Have fun.
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

...and that paper (30000 words or more) where you explain the inner working=
s
of the windows kernel (in detail) was due last week...

So little time, so many algorithms.

Stay warm :)
Micke

Den 03-10-22 05.14, skrev "Leif W" <war...@us...>:

> As always I've got many little side projects going, distracting me, like
> Mozilla Firebird 0.7 came out recently and my favorite skin (Phoenity Fla=
me)
> doesn't seem to work so I'm trying to learn to write or modify skins, whi=
ch
> are mostly just CSS, JPG, GIF and PNG files.  But to do skin debugging I
> might need the DOM inspector, which means rebuilding from source for
> windows, or Linux, which I've never done.  But I'm multi-tasking and I've
> downloaded Spock and VDE so I'll look at them probably tomorrow.  :-)  Wa=
nt
> to get my skin working this week if possible.  Also trying to figure out =
a
> bug in Apache's mod_autoindex, then of course the IOElement PHP I'm suppo=
sed
> to be debugging and extending too.  :-)  Got the munchies, kind of tired
> too, but it's early.  ^^
>=20
> Leif
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Bystrom" <mi...@mi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:54 AM
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready
>=20
>=20
> Hello List Folk,
>=20
> Well I've finished my first version of the VDE (Visual DynAPI Editor) I'v=
e
> changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a nice ring to it.
>=20
> Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So here goes.
>=20
>=20
> THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA.
> And is working fine. So now you know.
>=20
>=20
> I don=B9t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4 support.
> Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on fully DOM browsers.
>=20
>=20
> I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I don't think it will ever..=
..
>=20
> 1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten.
> 2) I changed the way that the layers are created using a marker script.
> Click on the add button, click on the grid and drag the maker to the size
> you'd like. Also the it will automatically use the clicked layer as the
> parent layer.
> 3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and hold still for 400 ms and
> you are in edit mode and do your thing then simple click will reset.
> 4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you click will be deleted (an=
d
> childern) checkbox will reset when you click on it again.
> 5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode
> 6) lock is also in checkbox mode
> 7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the button then click on the
> layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste button and then on
> Grid/layers you want the copy to past to.
> 8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button, then layer, then where =
you
> want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change this so that you can add t=
he
> layers at a later time)
> 9) visibility is in checkbox mode '
> 10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the layers you want to link
> To remove or add click on the button and hold down for 400ms and you will=
 be
> in edit mode then you can remove or add. The first layer you click in edi=
t
> mode will be the parent and the rest will be linked of removed from/to th=
is
> layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And I don't know if it shoul=
d
> allow a link to children outside it's parent layer.
>=20
> 11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML ,save DVE because I would li=
ke
> a new save system. Here is my idea I would like to use a XML file as the
> save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could import as a premade widget
> sorta like this.
>=20
> dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml")
>=20
> And then dynapi creates the project without any code. This is how the IOS
> will load all it's components. So I ask you if you have ideas or anything
>=20
> 12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the boxes where you would wr=
ite
> the size and location you can now use %. "50%" etc..
>=20
> 13) color working but I'm not done with it...
> 14) Image is not working yet.
> 15) I included the new spock debuger as main info window. note that I wil=
l
> probably change some of the info structure, It's sorta in debug mode but =
I
> tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use :)
>=20
> That=B9s it for now. Please let me know what you think and PLEASE help me
> debug it on windows. If you have a code question mail the list and I'll t=
ry
> to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try to trace a object to se=
e
> what it does use use ex:
>=20
> dump( o.getX() )
>=20
>=20
> IOS library is also done but I'll have not collected all the examples and
> code but I will have that for you in a day or so.
>=20
> You can download it here (at the bottom of the page)
> http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php
>=20
> Have fun.

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

As always I've got many little side projects going, distracting me, like
Mozilla Firebird 0.7 came out recently and my favorite skin (Phoenity Fla=
me)
doesn't seem to work so I'm trying to learn to write or modify skins, whi=
ch
are mostly just CSS, JPG, GIF and PNG files.  But to do skin debugging I
might need the DOM inspector, which means rebuilding from source for
windows, or Linux, which I've never done.  But I'm multi-tasking and I've
downloaded Spock and VDE so I'll look at them probably tomorrow.  :-)  Wa=
nt
to get my skin working this week if possible.  Also trying to figure out =
a
bug in Apache's mod_autoindex, then of course the IOElement PHP I'm suppo=
sed
to be debugging and extending too.  :-)  Got the munchies, kind of tired
too, but it's early.  ^^

Leif

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Michael Bystrom" <mi...@mi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready


Hello List Folk,

Well I've finished my first version of the VDE (Visual DynAPI Editor) I'v=
e
changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a nice ring to it.

Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So here goes.


THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA.
And is working fine. So now you know.


I don=B9t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4 support.
Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on fully DOM browsers.


I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I don't think it will ever..=
..

1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten.
2) I changed the way that the layers are created using a marker script.
Click on the add button, click on the grid and drag the maker to the size
you'd like. Also the it will automatically use the clicked layer as the
parent layer.
3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and hold still for 400 ms and
you are in edit mode and do your thing then simple click will reset.
4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you click will be deleted (an=
d
childern) checkbox will reset when you click on it again.
5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode
6) lock is also in checkbox mode
7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the button then click on the
layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste button and then on
Grid/layers you want the copy to past to.
8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button, then layer, then where =
you
want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change this so that you can add t=
he
layers at a later time)
9) visibility is in checkbox mode '
10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the layers you want to link
To remove or add click on the button and hold down for 400ms and you will=
 be
in edit mode then you can remove or add. The first layer you click in edi=
t
mode will be the parent and the rest will be linked of removed from/to th=
is
layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And I don't know if it shoul=
d
allow a link to children outside it's parent layer.

11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML ,save DVE because I would li=
ke
a new save system. Here is my idea I would like to use a XML file as the
save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could import as a premade widget
sorta like this.

dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml")

And then dynapi creates the project without any code. This is how the IOS
will load all it's components. So I ask you if you have ideas or anything

12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the boxes where you would wr=
ite
the size and location you can now use %. "50%" etc..

13) color working but I'm not done with it...
14) Image is not working yet.
15) I included the new spock debuger as main info window. note that I wil=
l
probably change some of the info structure, It's sorta in debug mode but =
I
tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use :)

That=B9s it for now. Please let me know what you think and PLEASE help me
debug it on windows. If you have a code question mail the list and I'll t=
ry
to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try to trace a object to se=
e
what it does use use ex:

dump( o.getX() )


IOS library is also done but I'll have not collected all the examples and
code but I will have that for you in a day or so.

You can download it here (at the bottom of the page)
http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php

Have fun.
Michael








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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer width/height

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Well.. if you used a TV out card to plug your computer to a REALLY old tv,
then had DynAPI play a whole lot of colorfull random patterns..
and taped a slice of bread to the really old tv,
the radiation would eventually toast the bread..

Alternatly, you could port the fader widget to 3.0
and set a timer to fade from an image of bread, to an image of toast..
add an image of some toaster elements and then..
DynAPI 3.0 can make toast.

-------------------

The bigger question is: Can DynAPI 3.0 end world hunger?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer width/height


>
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> >
> > Can DynAPI 3.0 make toast?
> >
>
> Well, it can be used to write the application that
> controls the toaster :)
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> > -
> > Kevin
> >
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Háber János <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > > > 2003. október 19. 21.33 dátummal Kevin ezt írta:
> > > > > "Háber János" <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > Anybody can modify the DynLayer element for
> > > > resizing a percentage of
> > > > > > parent widget. example:
> > setSize("20%","40%");
> > > > >
> > > > > Should be easy enough. Or write an override
> > for
> > > > your own DynLayer.
> > > > yepp! I try, but it's not work.
> > > > I overwrite the setSize function (first , I
> > compare
> > > > the width and height is
> > > > string or not (typeof)) After that I calculate
> > the
> > > > width/height from parent
> > > > width/height. Because I replace the input value
> > > > because it's not work.
> > > >
> > > > Cow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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[Dynapi-Dev] Visual DynAPI Editor (VDE) PR 2 is now ready

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

Hello List Folk,

Well I've finished my first version of the VDE (Visual DynAPI Editor) I've
changed the name as Raymond suggested. :) has a nice ring to it.

Well there is a lot of things to talk about. So here goes.


THIS IS ONLY TESTED IN MAC MOZILLA.
And is working fine. So now you know.


I don=B9t think we should bother with a NS4 or IE4 support.
Just concentrate on making it stabile and fast on fully DOM browsers.


I know that VDE does not work in Mac ie5 and I don't think it will ever....

1) Almost all of the main code is rewritten.
2) I changed the way that the layers are created using a marker script.
Click on the add button, click on the grid and drag the maker to the size
you'd like. Also the it will automatically use the clicked layer as the
parent layer.
3) To go in to edit mode click on the layer and hold still for 400 ms and
you are in edit mode and do your thing then simple click will reset.
4) delete is in checkbox mode so each layer you click will be deleted (and
childern) checkbox will reset when you click on it again.
5) add HTML/content is also in checkbox mode
6) lock is also in checkbox mode
7) copy is in semi checkbox mode click on the button then click on the
layer(s) you want to copy the click on the paste button and then on
Grid/layers you want the copy to past to.
8) Move layers are in checkbox mode click button, then layer, then where yo=
u
want to move it to Layers/Grid ( I will change this so that you can add the
layers at a later time)
9) visibility is in checkbox mode '
10) link mode is in checkbox mode click on the layers you want to link
To remove or add click on the button and hold down for 400ms and you will b=
e
in edit mode then you can remove or add. The first layer you click in edit
mode will be the parent and the rest will be linked of removed from/to this
layer. Linked layers will not copy to paste. And I don't know if it should
allow a link to children outside it's parent layer.

11) I have not done save, preview ,save HTML ,save DVE because I would like
a new save system. Here is my idea I would like to use a XML file as the
save file. Then maybe the dynapi and VDE could import as a premade widget
sorta like this.

dynapi.importXML("mywebsite.xml")

And then dynapi creates the project without any code. This is how the IOS
will load all it's components. So I ask you if you have ideas or anything

12) I set up a relative x,y,w,h system so it the boxes where you would writ=
e
the size and location you can now use %. "50%" etc..

13) color working but I'm not done with it...
14) Image is not working yet.
15) I included the new spock debuger as main info window. note that I will
probably change some of the info structure, It's sorta in debug mode but I
tried to remove all the stupid stuff that I use :)

That=B9s it for now. Please let me know what you think and PLEASE help me
debug it on windows. If you have a code question mail the list and I'll try
to answer it. But please do USE Spock, if you try to trace a object to see
what it does use use ex:

dump( o.getX() )=20


IOS library is also done but I'll have not collected all the examples and
code but I will have that for you in a day or so.

You can download it here (at the bottom of the page)
http://www.michaelbystrom.com/download.php

Have fun.
Michael

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer width/height

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> 
> Can DynAPI 3.0 make toast?
> 

Well, it can be used to write the application that
controls the toaster :)

--
Raymond Irving

> -
> Kevin
> 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >
> >
> > --- Háber János <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > > 2003. október 19. 21.33 dátummal Kevin ezt írta:
> > > > "Háber János" <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > > Anybody can modify the DynLayer element for
> > > resizing a percentage of
> > > > > parent widget. example:
> setSize("20%","40%");
> > > >
> > > > Should be easy enough. Or write an override
> for
> > > your own DynLayer.
> > > yepp! I try, but it's not work.
> > > I overwrite the setSize function (first , I
> compare
> > > the width and height is
> > > string or not (typeof)) After that I calculate
> the
> > > width/height from parent
> > > width/height. Because I replace the input value
> > > because it's not work.
> > >
> > > Cow
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Using the List Widget?

[<bo...@co...>]

Hi!
> > > Thought I'd pick on a widget and give it a go. So I tried the
> > > gui.List component. Can we have packages.js dependency on
> > > NodeItem?
>
> // New? In packages.js including List will auto include NodeItem
>
> //dynapi.library.include('dynapi.gui.NodeItem')
> dynapi.library.include('dynapi.gui.List')
??? auto include?
How?
If I include the NodeItem in list and in Tree, it's included Twice (I thing).
I don't know how to work the dynapi include (I see in the package.js and I put 
my code, but I drink you words if you tell me how to make an auto include in 
dynapi widget);
Please share your secret :)

> > > Is it not possible to add a link as list item content? In example:
> > > list.add("<a href=\"javascript:alert('hi')\">Item Two</a>",2);
>
> Adding List content that is a '<a href="..> ' doesn't work?
It's work:
			var l=new List();
			l.setAnchor({left:0,top:0,stretchH:'100%',stretchV:'100%'});
			l.add('<a href="javascript:alert(\'hi\')">hi</a>',0);
			l.add('<a href="javascript:alert(\'hi\')">hi</a>',2);


> I may have out of date dynapi / Tree etc..
Hmm, I thin not. Lastest CVS :)  I think you speak about something , and I 
speak other thing.
I created the List Widget, NodeItem and Tree widget. I tell you how to 
"created" the NodeItem.
I used this item in List and Tree. NodeItem = old ListItem (dynapi 2.5 List 
widget). I renamed and sed another widget's (I plan a resizable grid element 
(resizable columns/rows , because now I have lot of work).

> > (Sorry my english is poor)
>
> It is good.
Thnx, because I can't succes my basic english exam. (pooooor english grammar, 
it's very complicated for me :)))))

Cow

My ICQ number: 73963523
Or you have MSN: bo...@ho...  (M$ sometime close their network, and I use 
linux so if the network closed I can't use this IM network).
and I have Jabber (it's can acces some network so tell me what's your favorite 
IM :)))))

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Using the List Widget?

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Háber János" wrote:

> Hi!

> > Thought I'd pick on a widget and give it a go. So I tried the
> > gui.List component. Can we have packages.js dependency on
> > NodeItem?

// New? In packages.js including List will auto include NodeItem

//dynapi.library.include('dynapi.gui.NodeItem')
dynapi.library.include('dynapi.gui.List')

> > Is it not possible to add a link as list item content? In example:
> > list.add("<a href=\"javascript:alert('hi')\">Item Two</a>",2);

Adding List content that is a '<a href="..> ' doesn't work?

> > Is the correct way to do this to add onclick handler to list
> > then getSelectedIndex and a switch statement?
> >
> > Are border/padding calculations inner or outer? Like some
> > left padding if possible.
> >
> > Selecting last item removes bottom border in IE unless border
> > is 3. No problems using Mozilla and NS4 on Linux.
>
> Hi!
> I used the original List item, because I cut out the ListItem, renamed
> NodeItem (used in Tree Widget).

I may have out of date dynapi / Tree etc..

> So the border/padding is the original List, I don't understand your first 2
> question. The NodeItem used on many items it's a simple Layer width selecting
> and value contain possibility.
>
> (Sorry my english is poor)

It is good.

-
Kevin

> Cow
>
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Using the List Widget?

[<bo...@co...>]

Hi!
> Thought I'd pick on a widget and give it a go. So I tried the
> gui.List component. Can we have packages.js dependency on
> NodeItem?
>
> Is it not possible to add a link as list item content? In example:
> list.add("<a href=\"javascript:alert('hi')\">Item Two</a>",2);
>
> Is the correct way to do this to add onclick handler to list
> then getSelectedIndex and a switch statement?
>
> Are border/padding calculations inner or outer? Like some
> left padding if possible.
>
> Selecting last item removes bottom border in IE unless border
> is 3. No problems using Mozilla and NS4 on Linux.

Hi!
I used the original List item, because I cut out the ListItem, renamed 
NodeItem (used in Tree Widget).
So the border/padding is the original List, I don't understand your first 2 
question. The NodeItem used on many items it's a simple Layer width selecting 
and value contain possibility.

(Sorry my english is poor)

Cow

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer width/height

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Raymond Irving" wrote:

> It's all inside the docs. See docs/changelog.html
>
> Use setAnchor({stretchH:'20%',stretchV:'40%'})
>
> I'm getting the feeling we are not aware of the full
> power of DynAPI 3.0 :) It can do anything you want it
> to do.

Yes Raymond thanks for the pointers.
(bows down) "We are not aWarthy!" :)

Can DynAPI 3.0 make toast?

-
Kevin

> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
> --- Háber János <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > 2003. október 19. 21.33 dátummal Kevin ezt írta:
> > > "Háber János" <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > > Anybody can modify the DynLayer element for
> > resizing a percentage of
> > > > parent widget. example: setSize("20%","40%");
> > >
> > > Should be easy enough. Or write an override for
> > your own DynLayer.
> > yepp! I try, but it's not work.
> > I overwrite the setSize function (first , I compare
> > the width and height is
> > string or not (typeof)) After that I calculate the
> > width/height from parent
> > width/height. Because I replace the input value
> > because it's not work.
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DragIcon bounding box

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

use
setDragEnabled(true,{top:0,right:0,bottom:0,left:0},true);

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> Hi!
> 
> How can I set the drag event bounding box?
> I try the: setDragEnabled(true,object,true);
> but it's not work (I don't know what I missed).
> 
> Cow
> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] DragIcon bounding box

[<bo...@co...>]

Hi!

How can I set the drag event bounding box?
I try the: setDragEnabled(true,object,true);
but it's not work (I don't know what I missed).

Cow

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Release-Plan and Todos

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Well all sounds good to call for a freeze code and
only focus on documentation and bug fixes, but I would
not want to do just that until we've added a few
widgets to the set. 

A lot of users have been asking about the widgets and
other stuff so I think we should add wigets into this
release.

I'm currently working on some widgets that were
uploaded into cvs. These should be finished within the
next three weeks. Hopefully by then we could then call
for a freeze code.


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--- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> >>Well we made mention oh November but that's yet to
> be
> >>decided as we need to iron out a bugs and such.
> > 
> > 
> > November seemed so far away back then ... now I'd
> say no way by then.  ;-)
> > Maybe Christmas or New Years if we all really made
> a effort with long nights
> > and little sleep.  :-)
> 
> Sounds like the normal rule at the end of each
> project / milestone ;)
> 
>   > I've been hesitant to jump into the testing and
> stuff, as things are still
> > in a state of changing.  If I go spend a lot of
> time identifying some
> > problems and trying to fix, and then everything
> changes with that widget,
> 
> Just an idea: Shouldn't the core-api and the widgets
> be 2 separate "subprojects"?
> The DynAPI really rocks and is really needed even
> w/o the widgets. So could there
> be a DynAPI-Core-Freeze (some kind of freeze-state
> makes the testing stuff really
> easier and more meaningful)? Is there still so much
> changing in the core-api?
> If a DynAPI-core release comes earlier, then more
> people will use it and
> create own widgets. Not to forget the poor
> developers who are only allowed
> to use "official releases" by their bosses.
> 
> What is the current separation? Is there something
> like a core, widgets, the
> soda-stuff etc? Or is it all just the DynAPI? If not
> - do you like the idea
> of splitting this up?
> 
> > it's time not well spent.  So we'd need to have
> some sort of freeze state.
> > But since there's been so much new activity with
> people creating new things,
> > I've been hesitant to call for a freeze.  Maybe a
> compromise is to have a
> > list of things which are in a freeze state (while
> allowing others to be
> > developped a bit more), add no new features, just
> do some testing,
> > documentation, bug fixes, and set it aside until
> release, putting any new
> > ideas into a TODO list.  Then when the freeze list
> is empty, go back and
> > freeze the remaining parts one by one or a few at
> a time.  How does this
> > sound?
> 
> This sounds like a great idea!
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer width/height

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hi,

It's all inside the docs. See docs/changelog.html

Use setAnchor({stretchH:'20%',stretchV:'40%'})

I'm getting the feeling we are not aware of the full
power of DynAPI 3.0 :) It can do anything you want it
to do.

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--- Háber János <bo...@co...> wrote:
> 2003. október 19. 21.33 dátummal Kevin ezt írta:
> > "Háber János" <bo...@co...> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > Anybody can modify the DynLayer element for
> resizing a percentage of
> > > parent widget. example: setSize("20%","40%");
> >
> > Should be easy enough. Or write an override for
> your own DynLayer.
> yepp! I try, but it's not work.
> I overwrite the setSize function (first , I compare
> the width and height is 
> string or not (typeof)) After that I calculate the
> width/height from parent 
> width/height. Because I replace the input value
> because it's not work.
> 
> Cow
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] ContentWidth

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

getContentWidth/Height can onnly be called after the
page has been loaded.


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--- Háber János <bo...@co...> wrote:
> Hi!
> Why don't work the getContentWidth/Height on my
> child layer?
> Cow
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Using Button widget.

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hi,

There are two ways to add events to a dynobject. you
could use:

obj.oneventname = function(e){}

or

obj.addEventListener(eventlistener_object);

either way works just fine, but it's recommended that
you use addEventListener() when designing widgets. 

See the docs/changelog.html file for more information.


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--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> Hi Raymond,
> 
> Quite like Button widget. Though I forget my dynapi
> basics.
> 
> How does this work?
> 
> btn.onbuttonclick = function(e){
>  window.status = cnt++;
> }
> 
> I found:
> 
> o.invokeEvent('buttonclick');
> 
> in ButtonStyle.js on a mouseup. OK but I was
> expecting:
> 
> btn.addEventListener({
>  onbuttonclick : function(e) {window.status =
> cnt++;}
> });
> 
> is this the same thing? I need to re-learn the core
> dynapi :(
> 
> I believe you are going back to a traditional widget
> model
> will interface and events stay the same?
> 
> -
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Release-Plan and Todos

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Hi again,

>>Well we made mention oh November but that's yet to be
>>decided as we need to iron out a bugs and such.
> 
> 
> November seemed so far away back then ... now I'd say no way by then.  ;-)
> Maybe Christmas or New Years if we all really made a effort with long nights
> and little sleep.  :-)

Sounds like the normal rule at the end of each project / milestone ;)

  > I've been hesitant to jump into the testing and stuff, as things are still
> in a state of changing.  If I go spend a lot of time identifying some
> problems and trying to fix, and then everything changes with that widget,

Just an idea: Shouldn't the core-api and the widgets be 2 separate "subprojects"?
The DynAPI really rocks and is really needed even w/o the widgets. So could there
be a DynAPI-Core-Freeze (some kind of freeze-state makes the testing stuff really
easier and more meaningful)? Is there still so much changing in the core-api?
If a DynAPI-core release comes earlier, then more people will use it and
create own widgets. Not to forget the poor developers who are only allowed
to use "official releases" by their bosses.

What is the current separation? Is there something like a core, widgets, the
soda-stuff etc? Or is it all just the DynAPI? If not - do you like the idea
of splitting this up?

> it's time not well spent.  So we'd need to have some sort of freeze state.
> But since there's been so much new activity with people creating new things,
> I've been hesitant to call for a freeze.  Maybe a compromise is to have a
> list of things which are in a freeze state (while allowing others to be
> developped a bit more), add no new features, just do some testing,
> documentation, bug fixes, and set it aside until release, putting any new
> ideas into a TODO list.  Then when the freeze list is empty, go back and
> freeze the remaining parts one by one or a few at a time.  How does this
> sound?

This sounds like a great idea!

Regards,
Peter