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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> what is this for?

This will allow DynAPI to set the width/height of the
layer if its was defined via a style sheet.

For example, lyr.setClass('myclass',true) will cause
dynapi to use "myclass" to setup the css properties
for the DynLayer. 

If no css width/height were defined in the style sheet
then the content width/height will be used as the
dynlayer's width/height.


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Raymond Irving

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: "Dynapi-Dev" <Dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()
> 
> 
> > Kevin,
> > 
> > Proposed DynLayer functions for use within
> > assignElement(): 
> > 
> > p.getElmWidth = function(){ 
> > var w = parseInt(this.css.width);
> > if(isNaN(w)) w=this.getContentWidth();
> > return w;
> > };
> > p.getElmHeight = function(){
> > var h = parseInt(this.css.height);
> > if(isNaN(h)) h=this.getContentWidth();
> > return h;
> > };
> > 
> > while DynLayer._assignElement will now use:
> > 
> > if (dlyr.html!=null && dlyr.html!='' &&
> (dlyr.w==null
> > || dlyr.h==null)) {
> > var cw = (dlyr.w==null)? dlyr.getElmWidth() :
> null;
> > var ch = (dlyr.h==null)? dlyr.getElmHeight() :
> null;
> > dlyr.setSize(cw,ch);
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > Please run a performance test on this to see if it
> is
> > ok.
> > 
> > 
> > Any comments, suggestions?
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > 
> > > > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > When using setClass('whatever',true) you
> should
> > > always
> > > > > create dynlayer with width and height or 0.
> This
> > > is to
> > > > > prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize
> the
> > > > > layer. 
> > > 
> > > I disagree the w & h should be defaulted to null
> in
> > > the
> > > constructor and not be touched until
> _assignElement.
> > > 
> > > > > It was suggested once that we get the width
> and
> > > the
> > > > > height from the style of the layer, but that
> > > might not
> > > > > be a good thing to do as style sheets can
> use
> > > > > different values for width and height:
> > > > > 
> > > > > width:100px; height:100px;
> > > > > width:100%; height:100%;
> > > > > width:100cm; height:100cm;
> > >  
> > > A user/developer knowing that pixels are
> supported
> > > would use px in style sheets as in the same way
> > > lyr=new DynLayer('z',10,10,'100%',100%')
> > > wouldn't be expected to work in any case.
> > >  
> > > > > If a layer's style width inside the style
> sheet
> > > was
> > > > > set to 100% then the dynlayer would report
> the
> > > wrong
> > > > > size, correct?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any thoughts on this? Should we document
> that
> > > users
> > > > > set the width and height to 0,0 when using
> style
> > > > > sheets? Or should we enable
> > > DynLayer.assignElement()
> > > > > to first check for a valid css width/height
> > > before
> > > > > calling getContentWidth/Height? 
> > >  
> > > Defaults as explained above. Then in
> assignElement:
> > > 1) call new methods getElmWidth() &
> getElmHeight()
> > > to satisfy the style sheet requirement
> > > then if the user/developer hasn't specified a
> style
> > > object
> > > or class
> > > 2) call getContentWidth() & getContentHeight()
> to
> > > satisfy
> > > the auto size requirement (single character
> > > DynLayers etc)
> > >  
> > > -
> > > Kevin.
> > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > Raymond Irving
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 SP1 and Onload event

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Mahidine Mendjeli <mme...@gh...> wrote:
> It seems IE 6 SP1 doesn't allow the possibility to
> fire an event when
> the page is loaded!!!
> so there is no possibility to create a Layer!
> Does someone experimented this problem?

What version of DynAPI are you using? This problem
should have been fixed in 3.0 alpha 1

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> MM
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[Dynapi-Dev] dragging dynlayer with visible ioelement in mozilla

[Ramesh P. <ra...@in...>]

hi,

there's seems to be a painting issue with mozilla when a dynlayer 
containing a visible ioelement child is dragged. The child layer changes 
it's position even before the parent does. anybody experienced this ???

is there a way to overcome this???

regardz,
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 SP1 and Onload event

[<ma...@bu...>]

uh, create a blank page and write

<script type="text/javascript">
window.onload = function() {
	alert("loaded");
};
</script>

doesn't it work?

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of 
> Mahidine Mendjeli
> Sent: den 28 april 2003 13:05
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 SP1 and Onload event
> 
> 
> It seems IE 6 SP1 doesn't allow the possibility to fire an 
> event when the page is loaded!!! so there is no possibility 
> to create a Layer! Does someone experimented this problem?
> 
> MM
> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] IE 6 SP1 and Onload event

[Mahidine M. <mme...@gh...>]

It seems IE 6 SP1 doesn't allow the possibility to fire an event when
the page is loaded!!!
so there is no possibility to create a Layer!
Does someone experimented this problem?

MM

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

what is this for?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: "Dynapi-Dev" <Dyn...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()


> Kevin,
> 
> Proposed DynLayer functions for use within
> assignElement(): 
> 
> p.getElmWidth = function(){ 
> var w = parseInt(this.css.width);
> if(isNaN(w)) w=this.getContentWidth();
> return w;
> };
> p.getElmHeight = function(){
> var h = parseInt(this.css.height);
> if(isNaN(h)) h=this.getContentWidth();
> return h;
> };
> 
> while DynLayer._assignElement will now use:
> 
> if (dlyr.html!=null && dlyr.html!='' && (dlyr.w==null
> || dlyr.h==null)) {
> var cw = (dlyr.w==null)? dlyr.getElmWidth() : null;
> var ch = (dlyr.h==null)? dlyr.getElmHeight() : null;
> dlyr.setSize(cw,ch);
> }
> 
> 
> Please run a performance test on this to see if it is
> ok.
> 
> 
> Any comments, suggestions?
> 
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> 
> > > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > When using setClass('whatever',true) you should
> > always
> > > > create dynlayer with width and height or 0. This
> > is to
> > > > prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize the
> > > > layer. 
> > 
> > I disagree the w & h should be defaulted to null in
> > the
> > constructor and not be touched until _assignElement.
> > 
> > > > It was suggested once that we get the width and
> > the
> > > > height from the style of the layer, but that
> > might not
> > > > be a good thing to do as style sheets can use
> > > > different values for width and height:
> > > > 
> > > > width:100px; height:100px;
> > > > width:100%; height:100%;
> > > > width:100cm; height:100cm;
> >  
> > A user/developer knowing that pixels are supported
> > would use px in style sheets as in the same way
> > lyr=new DynLayer('z',10,10,'100%',100%')
> > wouldn't be expected to work in any case.
> >  
> > > > If a layer's style width inside the style sheet
> > was
> > > > set to 100% then the dynlayer would report the
> > wrong
> > > > size, correct?
> > > > 
> > > > Any thoughts on this? Should we document that
> > users
> > > > set the width and height to 0,0 when using style
> > > > sheets? Or should we enable
> > DynLayer.assignElement()
> > > > to first check for a valid css width/height
> > before
> > > > calling getContentWidth/Height? 
> >  
> > Defaults as explained above. Then in assignElement:
> > 1) call new methods getElmWidth() & getElmHeight()
> > to satisfy the style sheet requirement
> > then if the user/developer hasn't specified a style
> > object
> > or class
> > 2) call getContentWidth() & getContentHeight() to
> > satisfy
> > the auto size requirement (single character
> > DynLayers etc)
> >  
> > -
> > Kevin.
> >  
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Raymond Irving
> > > > 
> > > >
> > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
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> > > > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Kevin,

Proposed DynLayer functions for use within
assignElement(): 

p.getElmWidth = function(){	
	var w = parseInt(this.css.width);
	if(isNaN(w)) w=this.getContentWidth();
	return w;
};
p.getElmHeight = function(){
	var h = parseInt(this.css.height);
	if(isNaN(h)) h=this.getContentWidth();
	return h;
};

while DynLayer._assignElement will now use:

if (dlyr.html!=null && dlyr.html!='' && (dlyr.w==null
|| dlyr.h==null)) {
	var cw = (dlyr.w==null)? dlyr.getElmWidth() : null;
	var ch = (dlyr.h==null)? dlyr.getElmHeight() : null;
	dlyr.setSize(cw,ch);
}


Please run a performance test on this to see if it is
ok.


Any comments, suggestions?


--
Raymond Irving


--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:

> > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When using setClass('whatever',true) you should
> always
> > > create dynlayer with width and height or 0. This
> is to
> > > prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize the
> > > layer. 
> 
> I disagree the w & h should be defaulted to null in
> the
> constructor and not be touched until _assignElement.
> 
> > > It was suggested once that we get the width and
> the
> > > height from the style of the layer, but that
> might not
> > > be a good thing to do as style sheets can use
> > > different values for width and height:
> > > 
> > > width:100px; height:100px;
> > > width:100%; height:100%;
> > > width:100cm; height:100cm;
>  
> A user/developer knowing that pixels are supported
> would use px in style sheets as in the same way
> lyr=new DynLayer('z',10,10,'100%',100%')
> wouldn't be expected to work in any case.
>  
> > > If a layer's style width inside the style sheet
> was
> > > set to 100% then the dynlayer would report the
> wrong
> > > size, correct?
> > > 
> > > Any thoughts on this? Should we document that
> users
> > > set the width and height to 0,0 when using style
> > > sheets? Or should we enable
> DynLayer.assignElement()
> > > to first check for a valid css width/height
> before
> > > calling getContentWidth/Height? 
>  
> Defaults as explained above. Then in assignElement:
> 1) call new methods getElmWidth() & getElmHeight()
> to satisfy the style sheet requirement
> then if the user/developer hasn't specified a style
> object
> or class
> 2) call getContentWidth() & getContentHeight() to
> satisfy
> the auto size requirement (single character
> DynLayers etc)
>  
> -
> Kevin.
>  
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > > 
> > >
> __________________________________________________
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> > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> I second June 2nd..
> Beside.. I work better with a deadline..
> :-)
> 
> For june 2 (wigets):
> Button
> PopUp Menu
> ScrollBar
> ScrollPane
> ToolTip
> DynTree
> 
> That should pretty much keep me busy for the month..
> Any comments? Suggestions?

Well the above sounds ok to me. The DynTree will be
the most complex of them all but think the list should
be ok for a beta version.

--
Raymond Irving

> 
> I would really like to start a conversation on the
> design of the dynTree
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: "DynAPI-Dev" <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release
> 
> 
> > 
> > See Below:
> > 
> > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > 
> > > > As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and
> get
> > > a
> > > > release of the new dynapi out the the public
> as
> > > soon
> > > > as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site
> are
> > > > showing that more persons want to see what 3.0
> is
> > > all
> > > > about. I'm of the believe that we are closing
> in
> > > on a
> > > > stable release but would first like to get a
> beta
> > > > version out to the public. Do you agree that
> we
> > > > release a beta 1 to the public?
> > > > 
> > > > On another note I would just like to hear how
> > > things
> > > > are going on the following libraries,etc. Can
> we
> > > have
> > > > these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> > > > 
> > > > * The new DynArea Library?
> > > > 
> > > > * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from
> Leif
> > > for
> > > > sometime now.
> > > > 
> > > > * The new TabManager/KeyEvents
> Extensions/Library?
> > > 
> > > I'd like a bit more time to show an example that
> > > works
> > > with relative positioning / style classes in
> ns4.
> > > Current
> > > discussions relate to these areas.
> > 
> > Ok, we also have some other key feature/functions
> to
> > resolve (such as getContentWidth, setBorder, etc)
> so I
> > guess we can set a beta release date for 2-June?
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > > 
> > > -
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > > * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> > > > 
> > > > * Documentation? Any updates?
> > > > 
> > > > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement
> > > server-side
> > > > codes to other platforms?
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

I second June 2nd..
Beside.. I work better with a deadline..
:-)

For june 2 (wigets):
Button
PopUp Menu
ScrollBar
ScrollPane
ToolTip
DynTree

That should pretty much keep me busy for the month..
Any comments? Suggestions?

I would really like to start a conversation on the design of the dynTree

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To: "DynAPI-Dev" <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release


> 
> See Below:
> 
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > > 
> > > As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get
> > a
> > > release of the new dynapi out the the public as
> > soon
> > > as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> > > showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is
> > all
> > > about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in
> > on a
> > > stable release but would first like to get a beta
> > > version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> > > release a beta 1 to the public?
> > > 
> > > On another note I would just like to hear how
> > things
> > > are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we
> > have
> > > these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> > > 
> > > * The new DynArea Library?
> > > 
> > > * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif
> > for
> > > sometime now.
> > > 
> > > * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?
> > 
> > I'd like a bit more time to show an example that
> > works
> > with relative positioning / style classes in ns4.
> > Current
> > discussions relate to these areas.
> 
> Ok, we also have some other key feature/functions to
> resolve (such as getContentWidth, setBorder, etc) so I
> guess we can set a beta release date for 2-June?
> 
> --
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> 
> > 
> > -
> > Kevin
> > 
> > > * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> > > 
> > > * Documentation? Any updates?
> > > 
> > > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement
> > server-side
> > > codes to other platforms?
> > > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] set border bug

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I say use CSS where we can.
A point tho: I have yet to force mozilla to paint the right and bottom
borders..
I'll post an example shortly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: "Dynapi-Dev" <Dyn...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] set border bug


>
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > Solution.
> >
> > 1) I like the way borders are done in dynapi for
> > ns4. Layers for top,
> > bottom, left and right. So if we implement this for
> > all browsers and
> > not mess with the style it would be consistent,
> > though dynlayer width
> > will include border.
>
> That's true, but this would require us to us more
> layers. The solution is ok for ns4 (as it's an old
> browser) but css now available I think it's much more
> efficient to use css.
>
> > 2) If we mess with border style for dom browsers.
> > For the
> > dynlayer size to consistent with ns4 border
> > implementation
> > it''s the dynlayer width that should be set to the
> > actual element
> > width plus twice the size of the border.
>
> If we set the actual elm size to be less than twice
> the border size then it would be consistent with the
> ns4 implementation:
>
> lyr.w = 100
> lyr.h = 100
> lyr.css.width=(lyr.w-(lyr._border*2))
> lyr.css.height=(lyr.h-(lyr._border*2))
>
> In the above the dynLayer width/height will always be
> 100x100 although the actual elm size will be 98x98.
> This IMO shouldn't be a problem as the content inside
> the elm will either wrap or overflow. This will only
> be true when borders are set for DynLayers on DOM
> browsers.
>
> Agree? Or should we use the NS4 design despite the
> draw backs or having to use four additional layers?
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> > I have a setBorder method that fixes the bug and
> > should
> > work ok:
> >
> > p.setBorder=function(w,c,s) {
> >   var width=w||0;
> >   var bstyle=(typeof(s)=='string')?s:'solid';
> >   var bcolor=(typeof(c)=='string')?c:'black';
> >   this._border=width+'px '+bstyle+' '+bcolor;
> >   this._cssBorder='border:'+this._border+'; ';
> >   var s=this.css;
> >   if(s) {
> >     s.borderWidth=width+'px';
> >     s.borderStyle=bstyle;
> >     s.borderColor=bcolor;
> >   }
> > };
> >
> > Just need to work out what the dynlayer w & h should
> > be
> > as the w & h of a dynlayer should be the same as
> > when
> > using a border (internal border layers) in ns4.
> >
> > -
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > > > For example in dom browsers we would something
> > like:
> > > >
> > > > p.setSize = function(w,h) {
> > > > .....
> > > >    if (cw) this.css.width =
> > > > (this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
> > > >    if (ch) this.css.height =
> > > > (this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
> > > > ....
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we
> > do
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mozilla cotnentwidth bug.

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

int he demo I posted.. the content is indeed in a table with one cell. :-)
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From: "Benoit Marchant" <mar...@ma...>
To: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
Cc: "DynApi-Dev" <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mozilla cotnentwidth bug.


> I've seen with IE, in several occasions, that wrapping a content in a
> table with one cell forces the layout engine to do the right thing.
> Give it a shot.
>
> Benoit
>
> On Sunday, April 27, 2003, at 09:50  AM, Raymond Irving wrote:
>
> >
> > --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> >> See attached document.
> >> note: this is a mozilla (NS6) specific bug.
> >
> > Wow! I wonder if this is a mozilla bug? If it is a bug
> > we might have to release a dynapi-mozilla patch for
> > this bug.
> >
> > Another thing to note is that in IE I also noticed
> > that had to set the width to 1 before it would return
> > the correct content size. Any ideas why? Any other
> > work around for both IE and mozilla  getContentWidth()
> > problems?
> >
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> > Mozilla cotnentWidth
> > Bugdynapi.library.setPath('./src/
> > ');dynapi.library.include('dynapi.api');ParentLayer
> > = new
> > DynLayer();ParentLayer.setBgColor('blue');ParentLayer.setSize(100,100);
> > ParentLayer.setLocation(50,200);ChildLayer
> > = new
> > DynLayer();ChildLayer.setBgColor('white');ChildLayer.setSize(100,100);C
> > hildLayer.setLocation(10,10);ChildLayer.setHTML('!');ParentLayer.addChi
> > ld(ChildLayer)dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayer);function
> > doIt(){ alert('Child Layer\'s ContentWidth = ' +
> > ChildLayer.getContentWidth() + '\nChild Layer\'s
> > ContentHeight = ' +
> > ChildLayer.getContentHeight())}ParentLayerB = new
> > DynLayer();ParentLayerB.setBgColor('blue');ParentLayerB.setSize(150,150
> > );ParentLayerB.setLocation(250,200);ChildLayerB
> > = new
> > DynLayer();ChildLayerB.setBgColor('white');ChildLayerB.setSize(100,100)
> > ;ChildLayerB.setLocation(10,10);ChildLayerB.setHTML('!');ParentLayerB.a
> > ddChild(ChildLayerB)dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayerB);function
> > doItB(){ alert('Child Layer B\'s ContentWidth = ' +
> > ChildLayerB.getContentWidth() + '\nChild LayerB\'s
> > ContentHeight = ' +
> > ChildLayerB.getContentHeight())}This document
> > demonstartes the mozilla content size bug.
> > click here to get the content size of the child layer.
> > the expected results are contentWidth = 150 and
> > contentHeight = 150
> > Note that the bug only occurs with the width
> > In case you did not notice. getContenWidth in Mozilla
> > will actually return the distance from a child layer's
> > left to the parent layer's right where the
> > childlayer's right extends beyond the parent layer's
> > right.
> >
> > If the child layer's area does not extend beyond the
> > parent layer's area then the value returned is that of
> > the real content width minus the left position of the
> > child layer.click here to get the content size of the
> > second child layer.
> > dynapi.document.insertAllChildren();
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mozilla cotnentwidth bug.

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

I've seen with IE, in several occasions, that wrapping a content in a  
table with one cell forces the layout engine to do the right thing.  
Give it a shot.

Benoit

On Sunday, April 27, 2003, at 09:50  AM, Raymond Irving wrote:

>
> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
>> See attached document.
>> note: this is a mozilla (NS6) specific bug.
>
> Wow! I wonder if this is a mozilla bug? If it is a bug
> we might have to release a dynapi-mozilla patch for
> this bug.
>
> Another thing to note is that in IE I also noticed
> that had to set the width to 1 before it would return
> the correct content size. Any ideas why? Any other
> work around for both IE and mozilla  getContentWidth()
> problems?
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
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> Mozilla cotnentWidth
> Bugdynapi.library.setPath('./src/ 
> ');dynapi.library.include('dynapi.api');ParentLayer
> = new
> DynLayer();ParentLayer.setBgColor('blue');ParentLayer.setSize(100,100); 
> ParentLayer.setLocation(50,200);ChildLayer
> = new
> DynLayer();ChildLayer.setBgColor('white');ChildLayer.setSize(100,100);C 
> hildLayer.setLocation(10,10);ChildLayer.setHTML('!');ParentLayer.addChi 
> ld(ChildLayer)dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayer);function
> doIt(){	alert('Child Layer\'s ContentWidth = ' +
> ChildLayer.getContentWidth() + '\nChild Layer\'s
> ContentHeight = ' +
> ChildLayer.getContentHeight())}ParentLayerB = new
> DynLayer();ParentLayerB.setBgColor('blue');ParentLayerB.setSize(150,150 
> );ParentLayerB.setLocation(250,200);ChildLayerB
> = new
> DynLayer();ChildLayerB.setBgColor('white');ChildLayerB.setSize(100,100) 
> ;ChildLayerB.setLocation(10,10);ChildLayerB.setHTML('!');ParentLayerB.a 
> ddChild(ChildLayerB)dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayerB);function
> doItB(){	alert('Child Layer B\'s ContentWidth = ' +
> ChildLayerB.getContentWidth() + '\nChild LayerB\'s
> ContentHeight = ' +
> ChildLayerB.getContentHeight())}This document
> demonstartes the mozilla content size bug.
> click here to get the content size of the child layer.
> the expected results are contentWidth = 150 and
> contentHeight = 150
> Note that the bug only occurs with the width
> In case you did not notice. getContenWidth in Mozilla
> will actually return the distance from a child layer's
> left to the parent layer's right where the
> childlayer's right extends beyond the parent layer's
> right.
>
> If the child layer's area does not extend beyond the
> parent layer's area then the value returned is that of
> the real content width minus the left position of the
> child layer.click here to get the content size of the
> second child layer.
> dynapi.document.insertAllChildren();
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] set border bug

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--- Benoit Marchant <mar...@ma...> wrote:
> I agree it would be nice to have a solution that
> works the same in all 
> browser. What we could do if we want the borders to
> be outside is 
> basically have a Frame object. The frame object
> would use 4 sub layers 
> for  the borders. Which is enough for color border.
> Now we could offer 
> image border, and then we would add 4 corner layers
> on to of the 4 
> borders, to be able to handle resize nicely with
> repeating or streching 
> the borders without affecting the corner images.
> So setting a border would add a frame parent to the
> receiver, or may be 
> simpler position a frame on top of the layer you set
> the border to. We 
> have the code that would move the frame when you
> move the layer already
> I don't know which one of the parent or the
> positioned on top is better 
> ? But both could/should be transparent to the user,
> and it should work 
> the same in every browser.

True.

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> Benoit
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 04:16  PM, Kevin
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > "Dan Willemsen" <da...@wi...> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 17:05, Raymond Irving
> wrote:
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I'm currently trying to get the setBorder()
> feature to
> >>> work in DOM browsers the way it works in IE.
> According
> >>> to the CSS1 specs the box width includes
> padding,
> >>> margin border and the element's width.
> >>
> >> Wrong... the elements width is only the width
> declared, the padding 
> >> and
> >> border are not added in.  In the IE 5(and 6 in
> quirks mode) box model,
> >> they are added in, which makes it a real pain for
> css developers, I
> >> know, i design css sites now for the most part.
> Javascript is just
> >> extra.
> >
> > Raymond refered to box width to include margin,
> border, padding and
> > elements width. So both right. I know of the
> broken IE5 box model
> > being a real pain.
> >
> > Solution.
> >
> > 1) I like the way borders are done in dynapi for
> ns4. Layers for top,
> > bottom, left and right. So if we implement this
> for all browsers and
> > not mess with the style it would be consistent,
> though dynlayer width
> > will include border.
> >
> >>>  It would seems
> >>> that DynLayers were design to only work with the
> >>> elements width. One quick solution would be to
> set the
> >>> actual element width to be less than twice the
> size of
> >>> the border.
> >
> > 2) If we mess with border style for dom browsers.
> For the
> > dynlayer size to consistent with ns4 border
> implementation
> > it''s the dynlayer width that should be set to the
> actual element
> > width plus twice the size of the border.
> >
> > I have a setBorder method that fixes the bug and
> should
> > work ok:
> >
> > p.setBorder=function(w,c,s) {
> >   var width=w||0;
> >   var bstyle=(typeof(s)=='string')?s:'solid';
> >   var bcolor=(typeof(c)=='string')?c:'black';
> >   this._border=width+'px '+bstyle+' '+bcolor;
> >   this._cssBorder='border:'+this._border+'; ';
> >   var s=this.css;
> >   if(s) {
> >     s.borderWidth=width+'px';
> >     s.borderStyle=bstyle;
> >     s.borderColor=bcolor;
> >   }
> > };
> >
> > Just need to work out what the dynlayer w & h
> should be
> > as the w & h of a dynlayer should be the same as
> when
> > using a border (internal border layers) in ns4.
> >
> > -
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >>> For example in dom browsers we would something
> like:
> >>>
> >>> p.setSize = function(w,h) {
> >>> .....
> >>>    if (cw) this.css.width =
> >>> (this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
> >>>    if (ch) this.css.height =
> >>> (this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
> >>> ....
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we
> do
> >>> this?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Raymond Irving
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

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See Below:

--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get
> a
> > release of the new dynapi out the the public as
> soon
> > as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> > showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is
> all
> > about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in
> on a
> > stable release but would first like to get a beta
> > version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> > release a beta 1 to the public?
> > 
> > On another note I would just like to hear how
> things
> > are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we
> have
> > these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> > 
> > * The new DynArea Library?
> > 
> > * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif
> for
> > sometime now.
> > 
> > * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?
> 
> I'd like a bit more time to show an example that
> works
> with relative positioning / style classes in ns4.
> Current
> discussions relate to these areas.

Ok, we also have some other key feature/functions to
resolve (such as getContentWidth, setBorder, etc) so I
guess we can set a beta release date for 2-June?

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> 
> -
> Kevin
> 
> > * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> > 
> > * Documentation? Any updates?
> > 
> > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement
> server-side
> > codes to other platforms?
> > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] set border bug

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--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> Solution.
> 
> 1) I like the way borders are done in dynapi for
> ns4. Layers for top,
> bottom, left and right. So if we implement this for
> all browsers and
> not mess with the style it would be consistent,
> though dynlayer width
> will include border. 

That's true, but this would require us to us more
layers. The solution is ok for ns4 (as it's an old
browser) but css now available I think it's much more
efficient to use css.

> 2) If we mess with border style for dom browsers.
> For the
> dynlayer size to consistent with ns4 border
> implementation
> it''s the dynlayer width that should be set to the
> actual element
> width plus twice the size of the border.

If we set the actual elm size to be less than twice
the border size then it would be consistent with the
ns4 implementation:

lyr.w = 100
lyr.h = 100
lyr.css.width=(lyr.w-(lyr._border*2))
lyr.css.height=(lyr.h-(lyr._border*2))

In the above the dynLayer width/height will always be
100x100 although the actual elm size will be 98x98.
This IMO shouldn't be a problem as the content inside
the elm will either wrap or overflow. This will only
be true when borders are set for DynLayers on DOM
browsers.

Agree? Or should we use the NS4 design despite the
draw backs or having to use four additional layers?

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> I have a setBorder method that fixes the bug and
> should
> work ok:
> 
> p.setBorder=function(w,c,s) {
>   var width=w||0;
>   var bstyle=(typeof(s)=='string')?s:'solid';
>   var bcolor=(typeof(c)=='string')?c:'black';
>   this._border=width+'px '+bstyle+' '+bcolor;
>   this._cssBorder='border:'+this._border+'; ';
>   var s=this.css;
>   if(s) {
>     s.borderWidth=width+'px';
>     s.borderStyle=bstyle; 
>     s.borderColor=bcolor; 
>   }
> };
> 
> Just need to work out what the dynlayer w & h should
> be
> as the w & h of a dynlayer should be the same as
> when
> using a border (internal border layers) in ns4.
> 
> -
> Kevin
> 
> 
> > > For example in dom browsers we would something
> like:
> > > 
> > > p.setSize = function(w,h) {
> > > .....
> > >    if (cw) this.css.width =
> > > (this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
> > >    if (ch) this.css.height =
> > > (this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
> > > ....
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we
> do
> > > this?
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Drag & Snap

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Please see below:

--- Leif W <war...@us...> wrote:
>
> Think I posted to the mailing list what I had a
> while back.  It should
> suffice for an alpha.  Never heard any feedback on
> it.  

Yes, we did gave some feedback on it. Check the
archives to see some of the feedbacks:

http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../msg05190.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../msg05194.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../msg05203.html

> Here it is again.
> I'm not sure how to post the changes to CVS.  

For CVS updates you can do one on the two:

1) Setup wincvs to work with ssh 

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6841&group_id=1

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=761&group_id=1

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=766&group_id=1

Or 

2) Upload your changes using the patch system fromt
the dynapi website. A developer with cvs setup on his
machine can then upload your changes.


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> But I
> also wasn't sure if this
> would be "finished" enough for others to poke at. 
> Here goes nothing.
> Documentation is thin, but the very basics are on
> the example page.  I can
> elaborate if necessary, probably want to for a beta
> release.
> 
>
http://dynapi:dyn...@dy.../DynAPI/dynapi3x/examples/dynapi.
> fx.motionx.snap.html
> 
> The code is in the same file as the motionx stuff
> but it's pretty much
> separate.
> 
>
http://dynapi:dyn...@dy.../DynAPI/dynapi3x/src/fx/motionx.t
> xt
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Dan Willemsen <da...@wi...> wrote:
> > * Documentation? Any updates?
> I'm working on them, but not making a lot of
> progress right now.  I'm in
> high school and all my classes are rushing to get
> everything done for
> the end of the year, so I haven't had too much time.
>  I may be able to
> get more done after May 8, since that is the day of
> the AP US History
> test, and my history class should be doing pretty
> much nothing past
> that.  

I understand. It's very important that you secure as
much as you on the exams and course work. The docs
aren't realy necessary for the beta release so there's
no rush.

> .. I do have a lot of c programming to do for a
> robot we are
> building in tech class though.  I just need more
> time.  

On another note... Have you ever heard about the
BasicX microprocessor, the JavelinStamp Or the
SitePlayer? Just a few microprocessors that I came
across while doing some research some time ago. The
SitePlayer is my favourite. It's a complete web server
inside a micro chip.

www.basicx.com
www.siteplayer.com
www.javelinstamp.com


> > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement
> server-side
> > codes to other platforms?
> 
> I could help, but the time issue I am having is
> still there. I know php
> and perl.

Sounds great.


PS. All the best with your exams and school work.


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mozilla cotnentwidth bug.

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> See attached document.
> note: this is a mozilla (NS6) specific bug.

Wow! I wonder if this is a mozilla bug? If it is a bug
we might have to release a dynapi-mozilla patch for
this bug.

Another thing to note is that in IE I also noticed
that had to set the width to 1 before it would return
the correct content size. Any ideas why? Any other
work around for both IE and mozilla  getContentWidth()
problems?

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Mozilla cotnentWidth
Bugdynapi.library.setPath('./src/');dynapi.library.include('dynapi.api');ParentLayer
= new
DynLayer();ParentLayer.setBgColor('blue');ParentLayer.setSize(100,100);ParentLayer.setLocation(50,200);ChildLayer
= new
DynLayer();ChildLayer.setBgColor('white');ChildLayer.setSize(100,100);ChildLayer.setLocation(10,10);ChildLayer.setHTML('!');ParentLayer.addChild(ChildLayer)dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayer);function
doIt(){	alert('Child Layer\'s ContentWidth = ' +
ChildLayer.getContentWidth() + '\nChild Layer\'s
ContentHeight = ' +
ChildLayer.getContentHeight())}ParentLayerB = new
DynLayer();ParentLayerB.setBgColor('blue');ParentLayerB.setSize(150,150);ParentLayerB.setLocation(250,200);ChildLayerB
= new
DynLayer();ChildLayerB.setBgColor('white');ChildLayerB.setSize(100,100);ChildLayerB.setLocation(10,10);ChildLayerB.setHTML('!');ParentLayerB.addChild(ChildLayerB)dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayerB);function
doItB(){	alert('Child Layer B\'s ContentWidth = ' +
ChildLayerB.getContentWidth() + '\nChild LayerB\'s
ContentHeight = ' +
ChildLayerB.getContentHeight())}This document
demonstartes the mozilla content size bug.
click here to get the content size of the child layer.
the expected results are contentWidth = 150 and
contentHeight = 150
Note that the bug only occurs with the width
In case you did not notice. getContenWidth in Mozilla
will actually return the distance from a child layer's
left to the parent layer's right where the
childlayer's right extends beyond the parent layer's
right.

If the child layer's area does not extend beyond the
parent layer's area then the value returned is that of
the real content width minus the left position of the
child layer.click here to get the content size of the
second child layer.
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] onCreate bug.

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hi Doug,

I've tested it and I believe this was fixed in the
latest CVS verion of dynapi. Checkout the latest cvs
version to see it it works. 

Thanks for the example.

--
Raymond Irving

--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> Okay. The bug actually exists in IE and ns4 as well
> as mozilla.. it was just
> more noticable to me
> as I was testing in mozilla at the time.
> 
> The attached document demonstartes the bug.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release
> 
> 
> >
> > Please see below:
> >
> > --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> wrote:
> > > I've ported the popup widget for a contract..
> > > I'll have to bring it up to standards before
> > > releasing it.
> > > Right now I am working on mozilla issues.. for
> > > instance,
> > > the oncreate event gets fired before the layer
> is
> > > actually rendered..
> > >
> > > So trying to use contentwidth(for instance)
> onCreate
> > > does not work.
> >
> > Could you please post (or send me) a working
> example
> > that shows this bug?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >
> > > I have a whole lot of free tim ethis weekend. so
> I
> > > suppose I can
> > > finish off the basic widgets.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > > To: "DynAPI-Dev"
> <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:40 PM
> > > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and
> get
> > > a
> > > > release of the new dynapi out the the public
> as
> > > soon
> > > > as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site
> are
> > > > showing that more persons want to see what 3.0
> is
> > > all
> > > > about. I'm of the believe that we are closing
> in
> > > on a
> > > > stable release but would first like to get a
> beta
> > > > version out to the public. Do you agree that
> we
> > > > release a beta 1 to the public?
> > > >
> > > > On another note I would just like to hear how
> > > things
> > > > are going on the following libraries,etc. Can
> we
> > > have
> > > > these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> > > >
> > > > * The new DynArea Library?
> > > >
> > > > * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from
> Leif
> > > for
> > > > sometime now.
> > > >
> > > > * The new TabManager/KeyEvents
> Extensions/Library?
> > > >
> > > > * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> > > >
> > > > * Documentation? Any updates?
> > > >
> > > > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement
> > > server-side
> > > > codes to other platforms?
> > > >
> > > >
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onCreate
bugdynapi.library.setPath('./src/');dynapi.library.include('dynapi.api');w
= new
DynLayer();w.setBgColor('blue');w.setSize(130,130);w.setLocation(250,100);w.setHTML('!');w.onCreate(function(){
alert('parentlayer._created = ' + this._created +
'\nparentlayer\'s Dimentions are: ' + this.getWidth()
+ ' By ' + this.getHeight() + '\nparentlayer\'s
content\'s demensions are: ' + this.getContentWidth()
+ ' By ' + this.getContentHeight());	});x = new
DynLayer();x.setBgColor('white');x.setSize(100,100);x.setLocation(10,10);x.setHTML('!');x.onCreate(function(){
alert('childlayer._created = ' + this._created +
'\nchildlayer\'s Dimentions are: ' + this.getWidth() +
' By ' + this.getHeight() + '\nchildlayer\'s
content\'s demensions are: ' + this.getContentWidth()
+ ' By ' + this.getContentHeight());
});w.addChild(x)dynapi.document.addChild(w);This
document demonstrates the onCreate event bug.You will
note that child layers get their onCreate triggered
twice: one before they are rendered and once after.You
will also note that the first time the child layer's
oncreate is fired, the parent layer is not even
rendered yet.Also: the _created variable is true, even
though it is not rendered
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[Dynapi-Dev] Mozilla cotnentwidth bug.

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

<html>=0A=
<head>=0A=
<title>Mozilla cotnentWidth Bug</title>=0A=
<script language=3D"JavaScript" src=3D"./src/dynapi.js"></script>=0A=
<script language=3D"Javascript">=0A=
dynapi.library.setPath('./src/');=0A=
dynapi.library.include('dynapi.api');=0A=
</script>=0A=
<script language=3D"Javascript">=0A=
=0A=
ParentLayer =3D new DynLayer();=0A=
ParentLayer.setBgColor('blue');=0A=
ParentLayer.setSize(100,100);=0A=
ParentLayer.setLocation(50,200);=0A=
=0A=
ChildLayer =3D new DynLayer();=0A=
ChildLayer.setBgColor('white');=0A=
ChildLayer.setSize(100,100);=0A=
ChildLayer.setLocation(10,10);=0A=
=0A=
ChildLayer.setHTML('<table border=3D1 width=3D150 height=3D150><tr><td =
align=3Dcenter valign=3Dmiddle>!</td></tr></table>');=0A=
=0A=
ParentLayer.addChild(ChildLayer)=0A=
=0A=
dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayer);=0A=
=0A=
function doIt(){=0A=
	alert('Child Layer\'s ContentWidth =3D ' + ChildLayer.getContentWidth() =
+ '\nChild Layer\'s ContentHeight =3D ' + ChildLayer.getContentHeight())=0A=
}=0A=
=0A=
ParentLayerB =3D new DynLayer();=0A=
ParentLayerB.setBgColor('blue');=0A=
ParentLayerB.setSize(150,150);=0A=
ParentLayerB.setLocation(250,200);=0A=
=0A=
ChildLayerB =3D new DynLayer();=0A=
ChildLayerB.setBgColor('white');=0A=
ChildLayerB.setSize(100,100);=0A=
ChildLayerB.setLocation(10,10);=0A=
=0A=
ChildLayerB.setHTML('<table border=3D1 width=3D150 height=3D150><tr><td =
align=3Dcenter valign=3Dmiddle>!</td></tr></table>');=0A=
=0A=
ParentLayerB.addChild(ChildLayerB)=0A=
=0A=
dynapi.document.addChild(ParentLayerB);=0A=
=0A=
function doItB(){=0A=
	alert('Child Layer B\'s ContentWidth =3D ' + =
ChildLayerB.getContentWidth() + '\nChild LayerB\'s ContentHeight =3D ' + =
ChildLayerB.getContentHeight())=0A=
}=0A=
=0A=
</script>=0A=
</head>=0A=
<body bgcolor=3D"#999999">=0A=
This document demonstartes the mozilla content size bug.<br>=0A=
<a href=3D# onclick=3D"doIt()">click here</a> to get the content size of =
the child layer.<br>=0A=
the expected results are contentWidth =3D 150 and contentHeight =3D =
150<br>=0A=
Note that the bug only occurs with the width<br>=0A=
In case you did not notice. getContenWidth in Mozilla will actually =
return the distance from a child layer's<br>=0A=
left to the parent layer's right where the childlayer's right extends =
beyond the parent layer's right.<br><br>=0A=
If the child layer's area does not extend beyond the parent layer's area =
then the value returned is that of the real content width minus the left =
position of the child layer.=0A=
<a href=3D# onclick=3D"doItB()">click here</a> to get the content size =
of the second child layer.<br>=0A=
=0A=
<script>=0A=
dynapi.document.insertAllChildren();=0A=
</script>=0A=
=0A=
</body>=0A=
</html>=0A=

[Dynapi-Dev] onCreate bug.

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Okay. The bug actually exists in IE and ns4 as well as mozilla.. it was just
more noticable to me
as I was testing in mozilla at the time.

The attached document demonstartes the bug.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release


>
> Please see below:
>
> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> > I've ported the popup widget for a contract..
> > I'll have to bring it up to standards before
> > releasing it.
> > Right now I am working on mozilla issues.. for
> > instance,
> > the oncreate event gets fired before the layer is
> > actually rendered..
> >
> > So trying to use contentwidth(for instance) onCreate
> > does not work.
>
> Could you please post (or send me) a working example
> that shows this bug?
>
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> > I have a whole lot of free tim ethis weekend. so I
> > suppose I can
> > finish off the basic widgets.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > To: "DynAPI-Dev" <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:40 PM
> > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release
> >
> >
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get
> > a
> > > release of the new dynapi out the the public as
> > soon
> > > as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> > > showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is
> > all
> > > about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in
> > on a
> > > stable release but would first like to get a beta
> > > version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> > > release a beta 1 to the public?
> > >
> > > On another note I would just like to hear how
> > things
> > > are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we
> > have
> > > these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> > >
> > > * The new DynArea Library?
> > >
> > > * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif
> > for
> > > sometime now.
> > >
> > > * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?
> > >
> > > * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> > >
> > > * Documentation? Any updates?
> > >
> > > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement
> > server-side
> > > codes to other platforms?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Fw: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

Sorry didn't send reply to the list.

> "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get a
> > release of the new dynapi out the the public as soon
> > as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> > showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is all
> > about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in on a
> > stable release but would first like to get a beta
> > version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> > release a beta 1 to the public?
> > 
> > On another note I would just like to hear how things
> > are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we have
> > these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> > 
> > * The new DynArea Library?
> > 
> > * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif for
> > sometime now.
> > 
> > * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?

I'd like a bit more time to show an example that works
with relative positioning / style classes in ns4. Current
discussions relate to these areas. 

-
Kevin
 
> > * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> > 
> > * Documentation? Any updates?
> > 
> > * Anyone working on porting the IOElement server-side
> > codes to other platforms?
> > 
> > 
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Fw: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

Sorry didn't send reply to the list.

> 
> "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > When using setClass('whatever',true) you should always
> > create dynlayer with width and height or 0. This is to
> > prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize the
> > layer. 

I disagree the w & h should be defaulted to null in the
constructor and not be touched until _assignElement.

> > It was suggested once that we get the width and the
> > height from the style of the layer, but that might not
> > be a good thing to do as style sheets can use
> > different values for width and height:
> > 
> > width:100px; height:100px;
> > width:100%; height:100%;
> > width:100cm; height:100cm;
 
A user/developer knowing that pixels are supported
would use px in style sheets as in the same way
lyr=new DynLayer('z',10,10,'100%',100%')
wouldn't be expected to work in any case.
 
> > If a layer's style width inside the style sheet was
> > set to 100% then the dynlayer would report the wrong
> > size, correct?
> > 
> > Any thoughts on this? Should we document that users
> > set the width and height to 0,0 when using style
> > sheets? Or should we enable DynLayer.assignElement()
> > to first check for a valid css width/height before
> > calling getContentWidth/Height? 
 
Defaults as explained above. Then in assignElement:
1) call new methods getElmWidth() & getElmHeight()
to satisfy the style sheet requirement
then if the user/developer hasn't specified a style object
or class
2) call getContentWidth() & getContentHeight() to satisfy
the auto size requirement (single character DynLayers etc)
 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] set border bug

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

I agree it would be nice to have a solution that works the same in all 
browser. What we could do if we want the borders to be outside is 
basically have a Frame object. The frame object would use 4 sub layers 
for  the borders. Which is enough for color border. Now we could offer 
image border, and then we would add 4 corner layers on to of the 4 
borders, to be able to handle resize nicely with repeating or streching 
the borders without affecting the corner images.
So setting a border would add a frame parent to the receiver, or may be 
simpler position a frame on top of the layer you set the border to. We 
have the code that would move the frame when you move the layer already
I don't know which one of the parent or the positioned on top is better 
? But both could/should be transparent to the user, and it should work 
the same in every browser.

Benoit



On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 04:16  PM, Kevin wrote:

>
> "Dan Willemsen" <da...@wi...> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 17:05, Raymond Irving wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm currently trying to get the setBorder() feature to
>>> work in DOM browsers the way it works in IE. According
>>> to the CSS1 specs the box width includes padding,
>>> margin border and the element's width.
>>
>> Wrong... the elements width is only the width declared, the padding 
>> and
>> border are not added in.  In the IE 5(and 6 in quirks mode) box model,
>> they are added in, which makes it a real pain for css developers, I
>> know, i design css sites now for the most part. Javascript is just
>> extra.
>
> Raymond refered to box width to include margin, border, padding and
> elements width. So both right. I know of the broken IE5 box model
> being a real pain.
>
> Solution.
>
> 1) I like the way borders are done in dynapi for ns4. Layers for top,
> bottom, left and right. So if we implement this for all browsers and
> not mess with the style it would be consistent, though dynlayer width
> will include border.
>
>>>  It would seems
>>> that DynLayers were design to only work with the
>>> elements width. One quick solution would be to set the
>>> actual element width to be less than twice the size of
>>> the border.
>
> 2) If we mess with border style for dom browsers. For the
> dynlayer size to consistent with ns4 border implementation
> it''s the dynlayer width that should be set to the actual element
> width plus twice the size of the border.
>
> I have a setBorder method that fixes the bug and should
> work ok:
>
> p.setBorder=function(w,c,s) {
>   var width=w||0;
>   var bstyle=(typeof(s)=='string')?s:'solid';
>   var bcolor=(typeof(c)=='string')?c:'black';
>   this._border=width+'px '+bstyle+' '+bcolor;
>   this._cssBorder='border:'+this._border+'; ';
>   var s=this.css;
>   if(s) {
>     s.borderWidth=width+'px';
>     s.borderStyle=bstyle;
>     s.borderColor=bcolor;
>   }
> };
>
> Just need to work out what the dynlayer w & h should be
> as the w & h of a dynlayer should be the same as when
> using a border (internal border layers) in ns4.
>
> -
> Kevin
>
>
>>> For example in dom browsers we would something like:
>>>
>>> p.setSize = function(w,h) {
>>> .....
>>>    if (cw) this.css.width =
>>> (this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
>>>    if (ch) this.css.height =
>>> (this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
>>> ....
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we do
>>> this?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] set border bug

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Dan Willemsen" <da...@wi...> wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 17:05, Raymond Irving wrote:
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > I'm currently trying to get the setBorder() feature to
> > work in DOM browsers the way it works in IE. According
> > to the CSS1 specs the box width includes padding,
> > margin border and the element's width.
> 
> Wrong... the elements width is only the width declared, the padding and
> border are not added in.  In the IE 5(and 6 in quirks mode) box model,
> they are added in, which makes it a real pain for css developers, I
> know, i design css sites now for the most part. Javascript is just
> extra.

Raymond refered to box width to include margin, border, padding and
elements width. So both right. I know of the broken IE5 box model
being a real pain.

Solution.

1) I like the way borders are done in dynapi for ns4. Layers for top,
bottom, left and right. So if we implement this for all browsers and
not mess with the style it would be consistent, though dynlayer width
will include border. 
 
> >  It would seems
> > that DynLayers were design to only work with the
> > elements width. One quick solution would be to set the
> > actual element width to be less than twice the size of
> > the border.

2) If we mess with border style for dom browsers. For the
dynlayer size to consistent with ns4 border implementation
it''s the dynlayer width that should be set to the actual element
width plus twice the size of the border.

I have a setBorder method that fixes the bug and should
work ok:

p.setBorder=function(w,c,s) {
  var width=w||0;
  var bstyle=(typeof(s)=='string')?s:'solid';
  var bcolor=(typeof(c)=='string')?c:'black';
  this._border=width+'px '+bstyle+' '+bcolor;
  this._cssBorder='border:'+this._border+'; ';
  var s=this.css;
  if(s) {
    s.borderWidth=width+'px';
    s.borderStyle=bstyle; 
    s.borderColor=bcolor; 
  }
};

Just need to work out what the dynlayer w & h should be
as the w & h of a dynlayer should be the same as when
using a border (internal border layers) in ns4.

-
Kevin


> > For example in dom browsers we would something like:
> > 
> > p.setSize = function(w,h) {
> > .....
> >    if (cw) this.css.width =
> > (this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
> >    if (ch) this.css.height =
> > (this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
> > ....
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we do
> > this?
> > 
> > 
> > --
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> > 
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