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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: "DynAPI-Dev" <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release


> Hello Everyone,
>
> As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get a
> release of the new dynapi out the the public as soon
> as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is all
> about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in on a
> stable release but would first like to get a beta
> version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> release a beta 1 to the public?
>
> On another note I would just like to hear how things
> are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we have
> these in for the beta release? Need more time?
>
> * The new DynArea Library?
>
> * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif for
> sometime now.

Think I posted to the mailing list what I had a while back.  It should
suffice for an alpha.  Never heard any feedback on it.  Here it is again.
I'm not sure how to post the changes to CVS.  But I also wasn't sure if this
would be "finished" enough for others to poke at.  Here goes nothing.
Documentation is thin, but the very basics are on the example page.  I can
elaborate if necessary, probably want to for a beta release.

http://dynapi:dyn...@dy.../DynAPI/dynapi3x/examples/dynapi.
fx.motionx.snap.html

The code is in the same file as the motionx stuff but it's pretty much
separate.

http://dynapi:dyn...@dy.../DynAPI/dynapi3x/src/fx/motionx.t
xt

> * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?
>
> * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
>
> * Documentation? Any updates?
>
> * Anyone working on porting the IOElement server-side
> codes to other platforms?
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] blkboard ns4 bug

[Dan W. <da...@wi...>]

On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 17:05, Raymond Irving wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I'm currently trying to get the setBorder() feature to
> work in DOM browsers the way it works in IE. According
> to the CSS1 specs the box width includes padding,
> margin border and the element's width.

Wrong... the elements width is only the width declared, the padding and
border are not added in.  In the IE 5(and 6 in quirks mode) box model,
they are added in, which makes it a real pain for css developers, I
know, i design css sites now for the most part. Javascript is just
extra.

>  It would seems
> that DynLayers were design to only work with the
> elements width. One quick solution would be to set the
> actual element width to be less than twice the size of
> the border.
> 
> For example in dom browsers we would something like:
> 
> p.setSize = function(w,h) {
> .....
>    if (cw) this.css.width =
> (this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
>    if (ch) this.css.height =
> (this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
> ....
> }
> 
> 
> What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we do
> this?
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Dan W. <da...@wi...>]

On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 11:40, Raymond Irving wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get a
> release of the new dynapi out the the public as soon
> as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is all
> about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in on a
> stable release but would first like to get a beta
> version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> release a beta 1 to the public?
> 
> On another note I would just like to hear how things
> are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we have
> these in for the beta release? Need more time?
> 
> * The new DynArea Library?
> 
> * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif for
> sometime now.
> 
> * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?
> 
> * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
> 
> * Documentation? Any updates?
I'm working on them, but not making a lot of progress right now.  I'm in
high school and all my classes are rushing to get everything done for
the end of the year, so I haven't had too much time.  I may be able to
get more done after May 8, since that is the day of the AP US History
test, and my history class should be doing pretty much nothing past
that.  I do have a lot of c programming to do for a robot we are
building in tech class though.  I just need more time.  Anyone have a
time machine/some thing to elongate time?
> 
> * Anyone working on porting the IOElement server-side
> codes to other platforms?

I could help, but the time issue I am having is still there. I know php
and perl.

> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] blkboard ns4 bug

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hello Everyone,

I'm currently trying to get the setBorder() feature to
work in DOM browsers the way it works in IE. According
to the CSS1 specs the box width includes padding,
margin border and the element's width. It would seems
that DynLayers were design to only work with the
elements width. One quick solution would be to set the
actual element width to be less than twice the size of
the border.

For example in dom browsers we would something like:

p.setSize = function(w,h) {
.....
   if (cw) this.css.width =
(this.w-(this._border*2))||0;
   if (ch) this.css.height =
(this.h-(this._border*2))||0;
....
}


What do you think? Any other suggestions? Can we do
this?


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] blkboard ns4 bug

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> Hi Raymond,
> 
> I tried your updates. NS4 on Linux still crashes.
> What
> version of Linux are you testing against? NS4 should
> come as standard. Using the gnome window manager
> start->programs->internet->Netscape Communicator.
> 
> Some info' though. I moved the click link to the
> child
> and it works plus clicking the set table size links
> work
> too. Then I noticed if the mouse doesn't move off
> the
> counter link it works but then as soon as the mouse
> is
> moved crash! Attached modified test file.
> 
> In dynlayer_ns4.js :
> 1) _assignElement
> There is a comment:
> // useful for <forms>, images, links, etc
> - perhaps this is the problem area
> 2) enableBlackboard
> var parentElement = this.parent.isClass('DynLayer')?
> this.parent.elm : this.parent.frame;
> var elm = this._blkBoardElm = new Layer(0, elm);
> - the parent should be passed to the new Layer cmd
> though this doesn't fix it.
> 
> Hope this helps. Does just including 'DynLayer'
> include
> any more of the api by default - I'm thinking of the
> all
> the mouse event stuff. As the problem is with
> clicked
> links rewritten to the blkboard layer with setHTML.

Thanks for the feedback. Including dynapi.api.DynLayer
will not include the mouse events. I'm also of the
opinion that it's the link that's causing the problem.
I would suggest that we move it outside of the layer. 

To see if your version of ns4 is really having a
problem with links or mouse events please run the
dynapi.api.mouseevent.html example. It it crashes with
this example then will have to trace the problem.


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> -
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
name=dynapi.api.dynlayer-blackboard.zip



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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] blkboard ns4 bug

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

Hi Raymond,

I tried your updates. NS4 on Linux still crashes. What
version of Linux are you testing against? NS4 should
come as standard. Using the gnome window manager
start->programs->internet->Netscape Communicator.

Some info' though. I moved the click link to the child
and it works plus clicking the set table size links work
too. Then I noticed if the mouse doesn't move off the
counter link it works but then as soon as the mouse is
moved crash! Attached modified test file.

In dynlayer_ns4.js :
1) _assignElement
There is a comment:
// useful for <forms>, images, links, etc
- perhaps this is the problem area
2) enableBlackboard
var parentElement = this.parent.isClass('DynLayer')?
this.parent.elm : this.parent.frame;
var elm = this._blkBoardElm = new Layer(0, elm);
- the parent should be passed to the new Layer cmd
though this doesn't fix it.

Hope this helps. Does just including 'DynLayer' include
any more of the api by default - I'm thinking of the all
the mouse event stuff. As the problem is with clicked
links rewritten to the blkboard layer with setHTML.

-
Kevin

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

As far as I'm concern, I'm really close to be able to finish it, but I 
just can't work on it right now. I will be able to get back to it next 
week.

Benoit

On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 09:40  AM, Raymond Irving wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get a
> release of the new dynapi out the the public as soon
> as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
> showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is all
> about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in on a
> stable release but would first like to get a beta
> version out to the public. Do you agree that we
> release a beta 1 to the public?
>
> On another note I would just like to hear how things
> are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we have
> these in for the beta release? Need more time?
>
> * The new DynArea Library?
>
> * The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif for
> sometime now.
>
> * The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?
>
> * Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?
>
> * Documentation? Any updates?
>
> * Anyone working on porting the IOElement server-side
> codes to other platforms?
>
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
>
>
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[Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI Beta Release

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hello Everyone,

As mentioned eariler it would nice to try and get a
release of the new dynapi out the the public as soon
as possible. The polls on the dynapi web site are
showing that more persons want to see what 3.0 is all
about. I'm of the believe that we are closing in on a
stable release but would first like to get a beta
version out to the public. Do you agree that we
release a beta 1 to the public?

On another note I would just like to hear how things
are going on the following libraries,etc. Can we have
these in for the beta release? Need more time?

* The new DynArea Library?

* The new Snap Library? - Have not heard from Leif for
sometime now.

* The new TabManager/KeyEvents Extensions/Library?

* Widgets? How far gone are you Doug?

* Documentation? Any updates?

* Anyone working on porting the IOElement server-side
codes to other platforms?


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[Dynapi-Dev] CVS updates, Patches, etc

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hello All,

SourceForce web site is not working at the moment so
I'll post the patches here.

[*] Update Examples
[+] Add addHTML() example
[+] Add textanimation
[-] Fix bug in inline-widget example to work with ns4
[*] Modify LoadPanel to support new code changes
[*] FlashSound library can now be loaded Dynamically
using dynapi.library.load()
[-] Fix library conflicts with instrinsic javascript
object (String, Math, Date and Image)
[-] Fix dynapi.library-load.html example
[*] Modify addHTML()
[*] Separate soda from ioelmsrv.{whatever} to produce
ioelmsrv.{whatever} and ioelmsrv.soda.{whatever}
[*] Rename soda.{whatever} to ioelmsrv.{whatever}
[*] Separate library packages from dynapi.js - now
stored in ext/packages.js
[+] Add getContentWidth/Hight test page
[+] Add version.xml to dynapi/src
[*] Rename dynapi compiler to dynapi compressor -
replace icon
[*] Remove revision. file from dynapi/ - only
dynapi/docs/docs/revision.html will be used
[-] Fix onCreate/onPreCreate bug - onCreate
[-] Fix functions.Image with ns4 layers
[-] Fix IOElement bug with visible content

Changes are inside cvs

From my test 98% of examples work in ns4 on windows,
linux? mac?

Please perform other test and let's see if we can work
together on adding finishing touches to the core api,
fx, widgets and docs.

Can we have a beta 1 release by middle of May
(15-may-2003)?


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Benoit Marchant <mar...@ma...> wrote:
> If the size is set in percent isn't there an api  on
> the div themseves 
> to get their actual size ?

The only function that I'm aware of is the
getContentWidth/Height which returns the size of the
layers content. This does not return the real width

See the contentwidth_height.html test page inside the
tshoot/ folder. This is currently inside cvs

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> Benoit
> 
> On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 03:41  PM, Raymond
> Irving wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > When using setClass('whatever',true) you should
> always
> > create dynlayer with width and height or 0. This
> is to
> > prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize the
> > layer.
> >
> > It was suggested once that we get the width and
> the
> > height from the style of the layer, but that might
> not
> > be a good thing to do as style sheets can use
> > different values for width and height:
> >
> > width:100px; height:100px;
> > width:100%; height:100%;
> > width:100cm; height:100cm;
> >
> > If a layer's style width inside the style sheet
> was
> > set to 100% then the dynlayer would report the
> wrong
> > size, correct?
> >
> > Any thoughts on this? Should we document that
> users
> > set the width and height to 0,0 when using style
> > sheets? Or should we enable
> DynLayer.assignElement()
> > to first check for a valid css width/height before
> > calling getContentWidth/Height?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Text wrapping and NS4

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

 "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> In ns4 I was trying to used a <table> with a width of
> 100% to force text-wrapping inside a layer. The
> strange thing is that after page load I created a
> layer, set the HTML and then resize it but the <table>
> did not adjust to the new size of the layer.

I may have mentioned this before :) Isn't layer size in ns4
fixed? It may look as if the size changes but I think it's
just the clip region extending outside the layers fixed size
which is legal as is observed the content doesn't reflow.
Setting the clip.width value to w is the same as:
clip.right=clip.left+w;
Setting the clip.height value to h is the same as:
clip.bottom=clip.top+h;
There again I could be completely wrong.

-
Kevin
 
> See the example:
> 
> var html='<table border="1" width="100%"><tr><td>This
> is an test layer that was created after page
> load</td></tr></table>';
> 
> dynapi.onLoad(function(){
> var lyr = new DynLayer();
> dynapi.document.addChild(lyr); // note the layer is
> created here
> lyr.setSize(50,100); // change the size
> lyr.setHTML(html); // set layer's html
> lyr.setLocation(100,100); 
> lyr.setSize(150,100); // change the size
> };
> 
> 
> Any ideas, any workarounds? Is this the very nature of
> ns4?
> 
> PS. I noticed that the same thing occured in DynAPI
> 2.5
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

If the size is set in percent isn't there an api  on the div themseves 
to get their actual size ?

Benoit

On Thursday, April 24, 2003, at 03:41  PM, Raymond Irving wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> When using setClass('whatever',true) you should always
> create dynlayer with width and height or 0. This is to
> prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize the
> layer.
>
> It was suggested once that we get the width and the
> height from the style of the layer, but that might not
> be a good thing to do as style sheets can use
> different values for width and height:
>
> width:100px; height:100px;
> width:100%; height:100%;
> width:100cm; height:100cm;
>
> If a layer's style width inside the style sheet was
> set to 100% then the dynlayer would report the wrong
> size, correct?
>
> Any thoughts on this? Should we document that users
> set the width and height to 0,0 when using style
> sheets? Or should we enable DynLayer.assignElement()
> to first check for a valid css width/height before
> calling getContentWidth/Height?
>
>
>
> --
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[Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer and setClass()

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hi,


When using setClass('whatever',true) you should always
create dynlayer with width and height or 0. This is to
prevent dynlayer from attempting to autosize the
layer. 

It was suggested once that we get the width and the
height from the style of the layer, but that might not
be a good thing to do as style sheets can use
different values for width and height:

width:100px; height:100px;
width:100%; height:100%;
width:100cm; height:100cm;

If a layer's style width inside the style sheet was
set to 100% then the dynlayer would report the wrong
size, correct?

Any thoughts on this? Should we document that users
set the width and height to 0,0 when using style
sheets? Or should we enable DynLayer.assignElement()
to first check for a valid css width/height before
calling getContentWidth/Height? 



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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] About the addHTML() function

[Dan W. <da...@wi...>]

On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 14:57, Raymond Irving wrote:
> As for the addHTML() function ....
> 
> // Before the page loads you can use addHTML to add
> regular html text to the document.
> // this will behave similar to the document.write()
> function in both ns4 and other browsers
> dynapi.document.addHTML('Some Text <b>here Some
> Text</b> here Some Text here Some Text here Some Text
> here Some Text here');
> 
> dynapi.onLoad(function(){
> 
> 	// After the page has been loaded the addHTML()
> function will behave differently in ns4 than in other
> browsers.
> 	// All HTML content added after the page has been
> loaded in ns4 will appear at location 0,0
> 	// while in other browsers it will be appended to the
> end of the document.
> 	// It's best to use the addHTML() to add inline
> layers to the document after a page load.
> 
> 	var html='<table border="1" width="100%"><tr><td>This
> is an inline layer that was created after page
> load</td></tr></table>';
> 
> 	if(dynapi.ua.ns4) dynapi.document.addHTML('<layer
> id="myid2" width="100" height="100"
> bgcolor="yellow">'+html+'</layer>');
> 	else dynapi.document.addHTML('<div id="myid2"
> style="position:absolute;width:100px;height:100px;background-color:yellow;">'+html+'</div>');
> 
> 	var lyr = new DynLayer();
> 	lyr.setID('myid2',true);
> 	dynapi.document.addChild(lyr);
> 	lyr.setLocation(100,100);
> 	lyr.setSize(150,100);
> 	lyr.setHTML(html);
> });
> 
> 
> Should we keep the addHTML() function or remove it and
> have the users implement their own functions?
I vote that we keep it, face it, eventually netscape 4 will be gone, and
then there won't be a problem anymore.  I won't support scraping a
'newer' feature just because it doesn't work right in a 5+ year
browser.  We could recommend not to use it if you want your webpage to
work entirely correctly in nn4.
> 
> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] About the addHTML() function

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

As for the addHTML() function ....

// Before the page loads you can use addHTML to add
regular html text to the document.
// this will behave similar to the document.write()
function in both ns4 and other browsers
dynapi.document.addHTML('Some Text <b>here Some
Text</b> here Some Text here Some Text here Some Text
here Some Text here');

dynapi.onLoad(function(){

	// After the page has been loaded the addHTML()
function will behave differently in ns4 than in other
browsers.
	// All HTML content added after the page has been
loaded in ns4 will appear at location 0,0
	// while in other browsers it will be appended to the
end of the document.
	// It's best to use the addHTML() to add inline
layers to the document after a page load.

	var html='<table border="1" width="100%"><tr><td>This
is an inline layer that was created after page
load</td></tr></table>';

	if(dynapi.ua.ns4) dynapi.document.addHTML('<layer
id="myid2" width="100" height="100"
bgcolor="yellow">'+html+'</layer>');
	else dynapi.document.addHTML('<div id="myid2"
style="position:absolute;width:100px;height:100px;background-color:yellow;">'+html+'</div>');

	var lyr = new DynLayer();
	lyr.setID('myid2',true);
	dynapi.document.addChild(lyr);
	lyr.setLocation(100,100);
	lyr.setSize(150,100);
	lyr.setHTML(html);
});


Should we keep the addHTML() function or remove it and
have the users implement their own functions?


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[Dynapi-Dev] Text wrapping and NS4

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hi All,

In ns4 I was trying to used a <table> with a width of
100% to force text-wrapping inside a layer. The
strange thing is that after page load I created a
layer, set the HTML and then resize it but the <table>
did not adjust to the new size of the layer.

See the example:

var html='<table border="1" width="100%"><tr><td>This
is an test layer that was created after page
load</td></tr></table>';

dynapi.onLoad(function(){
	var lyr = new DynLayer();
	dynapi.document.addChild(lyr); // note the layer is
created here
	lyr.setSize(50,100);	// change the size
	lyr.setHTML(html);		// set layer's html
	lyr.setLocation(100,100);	
	lyr.setSize(150,100);	// change the size
};


Any ideas, any workarounds? Is this the very nature of
ns4?

PS. I noticed that the same thing occured in DynAPI
2.5


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re:Blackboard using NS4 on Linux

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hmm.... Very strange you! I don't have redhat 7 or ns4
for redhat, but from my experience NS4 normally crash
if it stumbles upon some incorrect html. Please see
the attacked file. It contains updates to the
blackboard. If after running the example it still
crashes ns4 then try and comment out the html code
inside the change() function of the example page.

Let me know what the results are.

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--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> 
> "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > > ... I can't get the addHTML or
> > > blackboard
> > > stuff to work in NS4 on Linux?
> > 
> > What problems are you currenlty having with the
> > blackboard on ns4 linux?
> > 
> > I've just tested in on ns4 windows and dont see
> any
> > problems. If you can please provide a working
> example
> > or a screenshot or both.
> 
> Yes it works on Windows NS4. I tested it on Linux
> Redhat
> 7.2 NS4. Just click on the Blackboard example the
> browser
> crashes and the window disappears.
> 
> navigator.userAgent:
> Mozilla/4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18 i686) 
> 
> Redhat NS4 comes as a binary distribution. Maybe the
> blackboard was tested against a different version as
> I think
> you have Redhat version 8.?
> 
> -
> Kevin.
> 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re:Blackboard using NS4 on Linux

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:

> 
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > ... I can't get the addHTML or
> > blackboard
> > stuff to work in NS4 on Linux?
> 
> What problems are you currenlty having with the
> blackboard on ns4 linux?
> 
> I've just tested in on ns4 windows and dont see any
> problems. If you can please provide a working example
> or a screenshot or both.

Yes it works on Windows NS4. I tested it on Linux Redhat
7.2 NS4. Just click on the Blackboard example the browser
crashes and the window disappears.

navigator.userAgent:
Mozilla/4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18 i686) 

Redhat NS4 comes as a binary distribution. Maybe the
blackboard was tested against a different version as I think
you have Redhat version 8.?

-
Kevin.

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> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] Re:Blackboard using NS4 on Linux

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> ... I can't get the addHTML or
> blackboard
> stuff to work in NS4 on Linux?

What problems are you currenlty having with the
blackboard on ns4 linux?

I've just tested in on ns4 windows and dont see any
problems. If you can please provide a working example
or a screenshot or both.


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[Dynapi-Dev] Create Offline DynAPI Apps!

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hello Everyone,

Check out this very cool tool! It allows developers to
compiler their web apps/sites into an executable
(.exe) file that can run on the users machine without
the need to install any web server. It has support for
ASP, ASP.Net, PHP, Perl, etc.

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 100% table width in ns4 dynlayer

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> --- ramesh pallikara nair <ram...@ya...>
> wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > setting table width="100%" on a dynlayer content
> > doesn't seem to work in ns4.
> > is there a workaround that can be done to achieve
> > this
> 
> This is a problem if layers where created without a
> width. Try setting the width of the layer and see if
> that works:
> 
> var t='<table width="100%"><tr><td>NS4
> :(</td></tr></table>';
> var lyr = new DynLayer(t,10,10,100,100);
> 
> IMO I think there should be a default width/height for
> dynlayers. So if the user did new DynLayer() then w,h
> would be set to 0,0. If the user needs the layer to be
> set to the size of the content then somthing like
> DynLayer(null,100,100,'auto','auto')

I disagree with setting w,h to 0,0. Null, null can be detected
for - rather than using the valid values of 0,0. This is useful
when assigning w,h values from the rendered element's css.
Passing string 'auto' for w,h is fine for telling assignElement
to default to the size of the content.

This goes for x,y and other constructor defaults. I'm looking
at using style classes and relative positioning in NS4/IE4/Moz. 

-
Kevin
 
> Any feedback?
> 
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> 
>  
> > 
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> > ramesh pallikara
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[Dynapi-Dev] Mozilla (NS6) and oncreate

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 100% table width in ns4 dynlayer

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

You mean other than having aw/h of null before insertion?
That would be cool..

Something like:
 this.x = x||0;
 this.y = y||0;
 this.w = w||0;
 this.h = h||0;

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 100% table width in ns4 dynlayer


> 
> --- ramesh pallikara nair <ram...@ya...>
> wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > setting table width="100%" on a dynlayer content
> > doesn't seem to work in ns4.
> > is there a workaround that can be done to achieve
> > this
> 
> This is a problem if layers where created without a
> width. Try setting the width of the layer and see if
> that works:
> 
> var t='<table width="100%"><tr><td>NS4
> :(</td></tr></table>';
> var lyr = new DynLayer(t,10,10,100,100);
> 
> IMO I think there should be a default width/height for
> dynlayers. So if the user did new DynLayer() then w,h
> would be set to 0,0. If the user needs the layer to be
> set to the size of the content then somthing like
> DynLayer(null,100,100,'auto','auto')
> 
> Any feedback?
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
>  
> > 
> > best regardz,
> > ramesh pallikara
> > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 100% table width in ns4 dynlayer

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- ramesh pallikara nair <ram...@ya...>
wrote:
> hi,
> 
> setting table width="100%" on a dynlayer content
> doesn't seem to work in ns4.
> is there a workaround that can be done to achieve
> this

This is a problem if layers where created without a
width. Try setting the width of the layer and see if
that works:

var t='<table width="100%"><tr><td>NS4
:(</td></tr></table>';
var lyr = new DynLayer(t,10,10,100,100);

IMO I think there should be a default width/height for
dynlayers. So if the user did new DynLayer() then w,h
would be set to 0,0. If the user needs the layer to be
set to the size of the content then somthing like
DynLayer(null,100,100,'auto','auto')

Any feedback?

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> 
> best regardz,
> ramesh pallikara
> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] 100% table width in ns4 dynlayer

[ramesh p. n. <ram...@ya...>]

hi,

setting table width="100%" on a dynlayer content
doesn't seem to work in ns4.
is there a workaround that can be done to achieve this


best regardz,
ramesh pallikara

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