Another Win XP incompatible game and up, another challenge. This game, when started by DxWnd, will display a message that it needs 256 colors. What's even more fun, it seems that the game ignores any color palette settings in DxWnd or even via the "Compatibility" tab in the exe file properties. I am unable to fix this game at home. I enclose a link to it and logs - https://www.old-games.ru/game/download/6423.html
If you want the game and don't want too much trouble, you may forget the original version on old-games.ru and use the 2001 XP-compatible version that you can find on AdventureLegends. I will make a try.
If, instead, you really want troubles, since I couldn't install the original game (otvdmw crashes!) may you post somewhere your HD files (and possibly the registry keys)?
Last edit: gho 2021-05-20
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But despite the XP support, it seems that DxWnd is having some problems with the game! It seems that it can't find a proper video mode .... that's awfully interesting!
update: D3DWindower has the same problem.
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I was trying the "2001 Deluxe 2CD ISO Demo (includes Printable Acitivities CD) 101+497MB (uploaded by Internet Archive Software Collection)".
You don't need to download the whole pack, you can pick the 101MB ISO only, but honestly despite the claimed XP compatibility I couldn't make it run yet. It starts with an error dialog saying "unable to initialize graphics" for who knows what reason and the logs shows no errors, but just the attempt to chose among all possible video modes.
P.s. IMPORTANT: the game protects itself by locking a global atom. The first time the game crashes it won't be possible to start it again until reboot or a new logon, unless you set the "shim:FakeGlobalAtom" tweak.
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Eraser Turnabout from what I remember also tried to create a VWIN32 file, but it also works without it, so a bad lead
This game was also in Polish, but I can't find a Polish version of it
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This game has a silly but big problem: I know where it pops the error message out, but I can't debug until there, the game terminates before when controlled by a debugger. So, every little step forward takes a lot of work to guess a possible problem, rebuild dxwnd and capture new logs. It seems that despite the XP support, also this version has its own tricks ...
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Awesome: the USA edition is much easier to tame, it installs and runs with almost default settings!
Of course, the game seems to have many problems and crashes very often, but it is a good start.
Nice finding, thanks!
@ghotik And did you try to make hexdump exe from the European edition (French or whatever) and the USA edition? Maybe you would find something interesting then?
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Another Win XP incompatible game and up, another challenge. This game, when started by DxWnd, will display a message that it needs 256 colors. What's even more fun, it seems that the game ignores any color palette settings in DxWnd or even via the "Compatibility" tab in the exe file properties. I am unable to fix this game at home. I enclose a link to it and logs - https://www.old-games.ru/game/download/6423.html
If you want the game and don't want too much trouble, you may forget the original version on old-games.ru and use the 2001 XP-compatible version that you can find on AdventureLegends. I will make a try.
If, instead, you really want troubles, since I couldn't install the original game (otvdmw crashes!) may you post somewhere your HD files (and possibly the registry keys)?
Last edit: gho 2021-05-20
Yes, sure - https://mega.nz/folder/V3Jj0ShS#WFgzBMe1saalw01yvKAqQA
But despite the XP support, it seems that DxWnd is having some problems with the game! It seems that it can't find a proper video mode .... that's awfully interesting!
update: D3DWindower has the same problem.
Last edit: gho 2021-05-20
Which version on legendsworld is compatible with Win XP?
I was trying the "2001 Deluxe 2CD ISO Demo (includes Printable Acitivities CD) 101+497MB (uploaded by Internet Archive Software Collection)".
You don't need to download the whole pack, you can pick the 101MB ISO only, but honestly despite the claimed XP compatibility I couldn't make it run yet. It starts with an error dialog saying "unable to initialize graphics" for who knows what reason and the logs shows no errors, but just the attempt to chose among all possible video modes.
P.s. IMPORTANT: the game protects itself by locking a global atom. The first time the game crashes it won't be possible to start it again until reboot or a new logon, unless you set the "shim:FakeGlobalAtom" tweak.
Last edit: gho 2021-05-21
Oh, my! Maybe not all Win9x stuff was cleaned away from this zoombini exe!
Access to raw disk "\.\VWIN32" is explained here: https://www.codeguru.com/cpp/w-p/system/misc/article.php/c5765/ReadingWriting-Disk-Sectors-Absolute-Disk-ReadWrite.htm
Eraser Turnabout from what I remember also tried to create a VWIN32 file, but it also works without it, so a bad lead
This game was also in Polish, but I can't find a Polish version of it
By the way, now I can't start the game at all (nothing happens when I start it). Of course I have the tweak "shim: FakeGlobalAtom" enabled
I checked other games from the Zoombinis series (Matmoludki in Polish) and these work perfectly well under DxWnd
This game has a silly but big problem: I know where it pops the error message out, but I can't debug until there, the game terminates before when controlled by a debugger. So, every little step forward takes a lot of work to guess a possible problem, rebuild dxwnd and capture new logs. It seems that despite the XP support, also this version has its own tricks ...
Okay, I scoured the internet (or rather archive.org) and found a couple of other releases of this game. Overall, I checked the version from old-games.ru, in addition, the game is also on legendsworld, but links to it from archive.org point to the full-rip of this game (Windows 3.1 version) and the 2001 re-release. However, on the archive.org itself, I also found the editions to which the links are below:
https://archive.org/details/zoombini_202003
https://archive.org/details/Zoombini_201806
https://archive.org/details/RareZoombinis
https://archive.org/details/LogicalJourneyOfTheZoombinis2002FrenchEdition
https://archive.org/details/tested-64-bit-learning-creative-for-vista_202008 (and reedition for new systems - https://archive.org/details/learning-creative-64-bit-installation-version-3.5)
Re-issues from magazines:
https://archive.org/details/pc-review-coverdisc_1996-09
https://archive.org/details/PCUJUN97
And I also found the game itself in the redump collection
https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_Z/Zoombinis%20-%20Logical%20Journey%20%28USA%29.7z
https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_Z/Zoombinis%20-%20Logical%20Journey%20%28USA%29%20%2820011017%29.7z
https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_Z/Zoombinis%20-%20Logical%20Journey%20%28USA%29%20%28Rerelease%29.7z
https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_L/Logical%20Journey%20of%20the%20Zoombinis%20Deluxe%20%28USA%29.7z
https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_L/Logical%20Journey%20of%20the%20Zoombinis%20Deluxe%20%28USA%29%20%28Alt%29.7z
Awesome: the USA edition is much easier to tame, it installs and runs with almost default settings!
Of course, the game seems to have many problems and crashes very often, but it is a good start.
Nice finding, thanks!
@ghotik And did you try to make hexdump exe from the European edition (French or whatever) and the USA edition? Maybe you would find something interesting then?
I come back to the topic. In the meantime, by downloading albums from magazines, I managed to get the Polish version of the game, which also does not start. @ghotik is it possible to return to this topic from your side? I found the Polish version on this album - https://archive.org/download/redump_pc_K/Komputer%20Swiat%20Gry%20Dla%20Dzieci%201-2008%20Edukacja%20%28Poland%29.7z