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#58 Migration Docutils from SourceForge to Github

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Sourceforge is not really user friendly to report issues, propose pull-request and contribute to the project. I would like to know if it is possible to migrate Docutils to GitHub.

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  • Matthew Brett

    Matthew Brett - 2022-06-01

    On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:40 PM Adam Turner via Docutils-develop
    docutils-develop@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

    There is some progress, see the update to todo in [r9059] (https://docutils.sourceforge.io/docs/dev/todo.html#repository).

    The script is not yet fully finished though, and I don't know who controls docutils/docutils, we'd want to talk to them too to get a transfer done.

    Thanks for this update. Is the script somewhere visible for others to
    help with? What remains to be done, for the script?

    For https://github.com/docutils/docutils - can I help? I'm happy to
    put up an issue, but it would probably better come from the core
    developers.

    Cheers,

    Matthew

     

    Related

    Commit: [r9059]

    • Adam  Turner

      Adam Turner - 2022-06-01

      Is the script somewhere visible for others to help with? What remains to be done, for the script?

      No. See the recent post to docutils-devel, as it contains personal emails etc we can't share it until we've gotten permission from everybody. That is the primary remaining thing, apart from a few questions around location of some directories (should infrastructure from the sandbox be moved into the core Docutils repo? Should web be moved into docutils/docs or somewhere else?).

      For https://github.com/docutils/docutils - can I help?

      If you'd like to, it's not the first step for me, but it would be good if grubert, gmilde, and AA-Turner could be added as organisation owners / the organisation transferred.

      We very well may end up with a situation of a few 'blessed' mirrors (xref Günter's comment), but we haven't talked about that yet.

      A

       

      Last edit: Adam Turner 2022-06-01
  • Günter Milde

    Günter Milde - 2022-06-01

    (1) the maintainers want to migrate.

    There is consensus to migrate to git.
    There is no consensus to migrate to Github.

    (2) what the concerns for doing a migration.

    For me, the main concern is a monopoly in the hand of a commercial corporation.

    (3) whether my helping hand would be welcome.

    Thank you for the offer. Sorry for the long silence.

     
    • Stephen Finucane

      On this point

      (2) what the concerns for doing a migration.

      For me, the main concern is a monopoly in the hand of a commercial
      corporation.

      While I am personally not a fan of GitHub and its pull request workflow
      (OpenStack uses their own Gerrit and Gitea instance), it's worth noting that the
      distributed nature of Git means lock in is not a huge issue as far as the code
      itself is concerned. As long as someone has an up-to-date clone of the repo, you
      could always move to a new home in no time. Of course you could lock yourself in
      in other ways, such as through use of the issue tracker, CI (GitHub Actions),
      etc. but all of these are secondary to the code and migration tooling exists for
      many of these features already.

      GitLab, Sourcehut, etc. all exist also if you really wanted to avoid GitHub,
      however, the open core model of GitLab is problematic for some folks while the
      long-term funding for things like Sourcehut is always going to be an issue (we
      don't want our new "home" to disappear with minimal/no notice).

      Just my 2c.

      Cheers,
      Stephen

       

      Last edit: Adam Turner 2022-09-08
  • Günter Milde

    Günter Milde - 2022-06-01
    • status: open --> pending
     
  • Adam  Turner

    Adam Turner - 2024-08-08

    As another update, I have recently made several improvements to the draft conversion files (see [r9856] and [r9868]) that I've been working on over the last couple of weeks. I also have written to Günter (@milde) privately to resolve some other matters, relating to migrating issues and the authors map.

    A

     

    Related

    Commit: [r9856]
    Commit: [r9868]

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