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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> > Right now, I've got two modules loaded, and a couple processes
>> running:
>> > Is that everything???
>>
>> Yeap that's it.
>
> Cool.
>
>> But I'm sure we can find something else to start if you want more. ;-)
>
> Nah, I already have BIND and SSHD running on it!
> I wouldn't want to overload my little dual quad core 3.0Ghz Xeon
> (eight cores), 32GB mem, 1TB SCSI RAID, VMware 3i server ...   ;-)
>
> BTW, my little DL 1.3 guest OS seems to run pretty fast on that box!
> (the only guest OS I currently have running)
>
> I'm thinking about loading OpenSuSE on that box and copying over my DL
> build environment to see how fast I can run a complete compile.
>
> How stable are the "Parallel [Compile] Jobs" options now?  I quit
> setting those to anything greater than one a LONG time ago because of
> random aborts.  Any clue what value I should give them for max speed?

I use a "Parallel Compile Jobs" of 2 or 3, depending how I feel on that day.
I'm running that on a dual core machine.
There are still some issues sometimes, but simply continuing the compile
often fixes it.
It may be better now, since I did a few changes last week. Unfortunately I
didn't have any time to do a couple of test compiles with various
settings.

I don't use the "Parallel Jobs" one, since that's the one which causes
most issues. Maybe somebody, someday, has enough time to get it figured
out.

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Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > Right now, I've got two modules loaded, and a couple processes running:
> > Is that everything???
> 
> Yeap that's it.

Cool.

> But I'm sure we can find something else to start if you want more. ;-)

Nah, I already have BIND and SSHD running on it!
I wouldn't want to overload my little dual quad core 3.0Ghz Xeon 
(eight cores), 32GB mem, 1TB SCSI RAID, VMware 3i server ...   ;-)

BTW, my little DL 1.3 guest OS seems to run pretty fast on that box!
(the only guest OS I currently have running)   

I'm thinking about loading OpenSuSE on that box and copying over my DL
build environment to see how fast I can run a complete compile.

How stable are the "Parallel [Compile] Jobs" options now?  I quit
setting those to anything greater than one a LONG time ago because of
random aborts.  Any clue what value I should give them for max speed?

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> >> Advantages:
>> >> Performance (especially the network driver),
>> >> some better memory management,
>
> Is there any way to get the mouse to move out of the window without
> having to press CTRL-ALT.  I'm guessing not, since it seems like
> X-Windows is required for that to work.  (but it can't hurt to ask :)

Nope, X and the VMware mouse driver.

> Right now, I've got two modules loaded, and a couple processes running:
>
> vmmemctl               10076  0
> vmxnet                 17792  0
>
> root     908     2  0 13:52 ?    00:00:00 [vmmemctl]
> root    1498     1  0 13:52 ?    00:00:00 /usr/sbin/vmware-guestd
> --background /var/run/vmware-guestd.pid
>
> Is that everything???

Yeap that's it.
But I'm sure we can find something else to start if you want more. ;-)

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Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <br...@ar...>]

> >> Advantages:
> >> Performance (especially the network driver),
> >> some better memory management,

Is there any way to get the mouse to move out of the window without
having to press CTRL-ALT.  I'm guessing not, since it seems like
X-Windows is required for that to work.  (but it can't hurt to ask :)

Right now, I've got two modules loaded, and a couple processes running: 

vmmemctl               10076  0 
vmxnet                 17792  0 

root     908     2  0 13:52 ?    00:00:00 [vmmemctl]
root    1498     1  0 13:52 ?    00:00:00 /usr/sbin/vmware-guestd --background /var/run/vmware-guestd.pid

Is that everything???

 - BS

[Devil-Linux-discuss] printing resources

[Arismendy R. T. <ari...@gm...>]

How can I get printing resources from internet (eth0) to local lan (eth1) in
my firewall (Devil Linux)?

My ip network of internet is 192.168.*.*
My ip network of local lan is 172.16.*.*

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > After ESX installed, I saw more Linux kernel messages during the boot,
> > and I logged into the console as root and confirmed I was running Linux
> > with a 2.4 kernel, and VMware services were running.
> 
> I thought it was an older 2.6 kernel....

2.4.21.  I don't have it installed right now, so I just looked at the CD
to double check.

-r--r--r-- 1 root root 42316296 2008-02-16 05:59 kernel-source-2.4.21-47.0.1.EL.64607.i386.rpm
-r--r--r-- 1 root root  7639785 2008-02-16 05:59 kernel-vmnix-2.4.21-47.0.1.EL.64607.i686.rpm

> > ESX 3i is different, as all traces of Linux, or any underlying OS, are
> > gone (or hidden).  It claims to be much smaller and it appears like the
> > hypervisor is running directly on the hardware without the Linux layer.
> 
> Yeah I'm not familiar with 3i.

Quote from http://www.vmware.com/products/vi/esx/esx3i.html

"ESX Server 3i is the only hypervisor that does not incorporate or rely
on a general-purpose operating system (OS), eliminating many common
reliability issues and security vulnerabilities. The slim 32MB footprint
of ESX Server 3i is a fraction of the size of a general-purpose
operating system, resulting in a smaller attack surface while minimizing
the effort required for tasks such as security hardening, user access
control, anti-virus and backup. ......."

I am impressed with 3i (except for the Windows-only client requirement).
It's also cheaper than ESX 3.5.

> > Some of the fancy (expensive) VMware features aren't supported with 3i,
> > but IMO it's more secure and less overhead.  I'm leaning toward buying
> > 3i for work after evaluating both.
> >
> > My major complaint with both versions of ESX is the client (required to
> > manage the hypervisor and the guest OS's) is Windows only.  Yuck!
> 
> Doesn't the webinterface have a java version?

With ESX 3.5 you can do some things from a browser, but not everything.
IIRC, you can manage most of the guest OS stuff from a browser but you
can't config the server itself.  And I'm not sure it is java because I
had to install a Linux Firefox plugin from VMware to make it work.
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a Mac version of the FF plugin.

With ESX 3i, almost nothing that can be done from a browser.

For both, you need the client to do some things, more so with 3i.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> >> > What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
>> >> > running DL in a VM without the modules?
>> >>
>> >> Advantages:
>> >> Performance (especially the network driver),
>> >
>> > Do I use the VMware module as the NIC driver (instead of pcnet32),
>> > or do I load the module along with pcnet32?
>>
>> You use vmxnet instead of pcnet32.
>
> OK.
>
>> If you use a 64 bit guest OS, then the driver has to be the e1000.
>
> vmxnet doesn't work on a 64 bit guest?

Correct.

>> >> some better memory management,
>> >
>> > Does the hypervisor only take the memory that the guest is actually
>> > using, instead of the entire amount reserved for the guest OS?
>> > Only with the module loaded?
>>
>> I'm not 100% sure, but I think the module plays a key role.
>> There are various parameters you can set for the over commit.
>
> Parameters to the module load?

None necessary.
You control everything either on a global vmware level or on a per-VM
basis (the VM specific config).

>> I'm not too familiar with the ESX server,
>
> Me neither, except for the couple days I spent playing with the eval.
>
> During the ESX 3.5 install, I saw Linux kernel messages run by, and the
> install screens looked a whole lot like the standard Redhat install
> screens, with the Redhat logo replaced by the VMware logo.

Yes it's based on Redhat, but optimized for vmware.

> After ESX installed, I saw more Linux kernel messages during the boot,
> and I logged into the console as root and confirmed I was running Linux
> with a 2.4 kernel, and VMware services were running.

I thought it was an older 2.6 kernel....

> ESX 3i is different, as all traces of Linux, or any underlying OS, are
> gone (or hidden).  It claims to be much smaller and it appears like the
> hypervisor is running directly on the hardware without the Linux layer.

Yeah I'm not familiar with 3i.

> Some of the fancy (expensive) VMware features aren't supported with 3i,
> but IMO it's more secure and less overhead.  I'm leaning toward buying
> 3i for work after evaluating both.
>
> My major complaint with both versions of ESX is the client (required to
> manage the hypervisor and the guest OS's) is Windows only.  Yuck!

Doesn't the webinterface have a java version?

> And the VMware infrastructure software (expensive features we're not
> buying now) requires a standalone Windows server running a SQL-server or
> Oracle database!  Triple Yuck!!!
>
>> I use the free one at home.
>
> Me too!  :-)
>

-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >> > What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
> >> > running DL in a VM without the modules?
> >>
> >> Advantages:
> >> Performance (especially the network driver),
> >
> > Do I use the VMware module as the NIC driver (instead of pcnet32),
> > or do I load the module along with pcnet32?
> 
> You use vmxnet instead of pcnet32.

OK.

> If you use a 64 bit guest OS, then the driver has to be the e1000.

vmxnet doesn't work on a 64 bit guest?

> >> some better memory management,
> >
> > Does the hypervisor only take the memory that the guest is actually
> > using, instead of the entire amount reserved for the guest OS?
> > Only with the module loaded?
> 
> I'm not 100% sure, but I think the module plays a key role.
> There are various parameters you can set for the over commit.

Parameters to the module load?

> I'm not too familiar with the ESX server, 

Me neither, except for the couple days I spent playing with the eval.

During the ESX 3.5 install, I saw Linux kernel messages run by, and the
install screens looked a whole lot like the standard Redhat install
screens, with the Redhat logo replaced by the VMware logo.

After ESX installed, I saw more Linux kernel messages during the boot,
and I logged into the console as root and confirmed I was running Linux
with a 2.4 kernel, and VMware services were running.

ESX 3i is different, as all traces of Linux, or any underlying OS, are
gone (or hidden).  It claims to be much smaller and it appears like the
hypervisor is running directly on the hardware without the Linux layer.

Some of the fancy (expensive) VMware features aren't supported with 3i,
but IMO it's more secure and less overhead.  I'm leaning toward buying
3i for work after evaluating both.

My major complaint with both versions of ESX is the client (required to
manage the hypervisor and the guest OS's) is Windows only.  Yuck!

And the VMware infrastructure software (expensive features we're not
buying now) requires a standalone Windows server running a SQL-server or
Oracle database!  Triple Yuck!!!

> I use the free one at home.

Me too!  :-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> > What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
>> > running DL in a VM without the modules?
>>
>> Advantages:
>> Performance (especially the network driver),
>
> Do I use the VMware module as the NIC driver (instead of pcnet32),
> or do I load the module along with pcnet32?

You use vmxnet instead of pcnet32.
If you use a 64 bit guest OS, then the driver has to be the e1000.

>> some better memory management,
>
> Does the hypervisor only take the memory that the guest is actually
> using, instead of the entire amount reserved for the guest OS?
> Only with the module loaded?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the module plays a key role.
There are various parameters you can set for the over commit.
I'm not too familiar with the ESX server, I use the free one at home.

>> ability to shut down guest.
>
> I ran "shutdown -h" without the modules and it shut down fine.  ;-)

****response censored****

-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <br...@ar...>]

> > What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
> > running DL in a VM without the modules?
> 
> Advantages:
> Performance (especially the network driver), 

Do I use the VMware module as the NIC driver (instead of pcnet32),
or do I load the module along with pcnet32?

> some better memory management, 

Does the hypervisor only take the memory that the guest is actually
using, instead of the entire amount reserved for the guest OS?
Only with the module loaded?

> ability to shut down guest.

I ran "shutdown -h" without the modules and it shut down fine.  ;-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > And the default config has:
> >   CONFIG_POPTOP_MPPE_MPPC=n
> > and nothing about that in my .config  (same question)
> > 
> It's my addition. Basically there are 2 reason to have it disabled:
> 1) possible legal difficulties
> 2) now it doesn't work with kernel 2.6.24.x (only with 2.6.23.x).

I'll leave that one alone.  It doesn't hurt anything set to "n".

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

Hi,

Bruce Smith wrote:

> And the default config has:
>   CONFIG_POPTOP_MPPE_MPPC=n
> and nothing about that in my .config  (same question)
> 
It's my addition. Basically there are 2 reason to have it disabled:
1) possible legal difficulties
2) now it doesn't work with kernel 2.6.24.x (only with 2.6.23.x).

--
Sincerely,
Serge Leschinsky

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> >> > It looks like we might be buying ESX at work.  I'm running the
>> >> > evaluation now to check it out.  I'm leaning toward 3i.
>> >>
>> >> If you're running newer Linux kernels as VMs, make sure the version
>> >> supports VMI. This will help you a lot.
>> >
>> > Is there an easy way to tell?
>>
>> No, but they will for sure list it in the features.
>> They may either call it VMI or Paravirtualization support.
>
> Do you know if the stock kernels in the newest major distro's have VMI
> turned on?  (OpenSuSE 10.3, CentOS 5.1, Ubuntu 7.10, Redhat 5, ...)

No idea.
You'll have to boot them up and then look in dmesg if you can find anything.
I think the message is being displayed fairly early.

>> >> De-Select VMWare and select open-vm-tools in menuconfig. ;-)
>> >
>> > root:/data/build# grep VM scripts/configuration/profiles/default
>> > CONFIG_LVM2=y
>> > CONFIG_VMWARE=y
>> > root:/data/build#
>> >
>> > Maybe we should change the default config too?  :-)
>> > (yes, I'll do it ...)  ;-)
>>
>> Good idea, why don't you go ahead and do it? ;-)
>
> Speaking of the default config, it contains the line:
>   CONFIG_LINUX_POWER_MGMT=ACPI
> and I can't find any reference to it in build/scripts/*
> and it's not in my .config  -- shall I remove that line too?

Yeah

> And the default config has:
>   CONFIG_POPTOP_MPPE_MPPC=n
> and nothing about that in my .config  (same question)

Yeah, too.

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Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >> > It looks like we might be buying ESX at work.  I'm running the
> >> > evaluation now to check it out.  I'm leaning toward 3i.
> >>
> >> If you're running newer Linux kernels as VMs, make sure the version
> >> supports VMI. This will help you a lot.
> >
> > Is there an easy way to tell?
> 
> No, but they will for sure list it in the features.
> They may either call it VMI or Paravirtualization support.

Do you know if the stock kernels in the newest major distro's have VMI
turned on?  (OpenSuSE 10.3, CentOS 5.1, Ubuntu 7.10, Redhat 5, ...)

> >> De-Select VMWare and select open-vm-tools in menuconfig. ;-)
> >
> > root:/data/build# grep VM scripts/configuration/profiles/default
> > CONFIG_LVM2=y
> > CONFIG_VMWARE=y
> > root:/data/build#
> >
> > Maybe we should change the default config too?  :-)
> > (yes, I'll do it ...)  ;-)
> 
> Good idea, why don't you go ahead and do it? ;-)

Speaking of the default config, it contains the line:
  CONFIG_LINUX_POWER_MGMT=ACPI
and I can't find any reference to it in build/scripts/*
and it's not in my .config  -- shall I remove that line too?

And the default config has:
  CONFIG_POPTOP_MPPE_MPPC=n
and nothing about that in my .config  (same question)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> > It looks like we might be buying ESX at work.  I'm running the
>> > evaluation now to check it out.  I'm leaning toward 3i.
>>
>> If you're running newer Linux kernels as VMs, make sure the version
>> supports VMI. This will help you a lot.
>
> Is there an easy way to tell?

No, but they will for sure list it in the features.
They may either call it VMI or Paravirtualization support.

>> > ERROR
>> > /data/build/scripts/vmmemctl build failed
>> > check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/vmmemctl for details
>> > root:/data/build#
>> >
>> > Help?  :-)
>>
>> De-Select VMWare and select open-vm-tools in menuconfig. ;-)
>
> root:/data/build# grep VM scripts/configuration/profiles/default
> CONFIG_LVM2=y
> CONFIG_VMWARE=y
> root:/data/build#
>
>
> Maybe we should change the default config too?  :-)
> (yes, I'll do it ...)  ;-)

Good idea, why don't you go ahead and do it? ;-)

-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > It looks like we might be buying ESX at work.  I'm running the
> > evaluation now to check it out.  I'm leaning toward 3i.
> 
> If you're running newer Linux kernels as VMs, make sure the version
> supports VMI. This will help you a lot.

Is there an easy way to tell?

> > ERROR
> > /data/build/scripts/vmmemctl build failed
> > check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/vmmemctl for details
> > root:/data/build#
> >
> > Help?  :-)
> 
> De-Select VMWare and select open-vm-tools in menuconfig. ;-)

root:/data/build# grep VM scripts/configuration/profiles/default
CONFIG_LVM2=y
CONFIG_VMWARE=y
root:/data/build# 


Maybe we should change the default config too?  :-)
(yes, I'll do it ...)  ;-)

  - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

>> > What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
>> > running DL in a VM without the modules?
>>
>> Advantages:
>> Performance (especially the network driver), some better memory
>> management, ability to shut down guest.
>>
>> > Do the included DL VMware modules work with ESX 3.5 and ESX 3i, along
>> > with the free VMware server?
>>
>> Yes they will work on all versions.
>> ESX 3.5 actually supports VMI, which is turned on per default in DL.
>> This
>> should give it a nice performance boost.
>> VMWare Server 2.0 will also support this, but is still in beta (and beta
>> 1
>> doesn't run very good).
>
> Yeah ... I tried VMserver 2 beta at home and had all kinds of problems
> getting it running.  I ended up going back to version one.
>
> It looks like we might be buying ESX at work.  I'm running the
> evaluation now to check it out.  I'm leaning toward 3i.

If you're running newer Linux kernels as VMs, make sure the version
supports VMI. This will help you a lot.

>> > I seem to recall the VM modules are broken in DL 1.3.  Is that still
>> > true?  (the VM modules build just aborted for me)  Anything I can do
>> to
>> > help fix it?
>>
>> No they work now.
>> And we're actually using the opensource version.
>
> root:/data/build# scripts/build.sh  build opt=vmmemctl
> mount: proc already mounted
> mount: none already mounted or /sys busy
> mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys
>
> executing vmmemctl with option build (in /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only)
> Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24.2/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/.
> modules
> make[1]: Entering directory `/data/build/tmp/linux-2.6.24'
>   CC [M]  /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.o
> In file included from /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.c:39:
> /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/compat_wait.h:37:5: warning:
> "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined
> /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/compat_wait.h:43:5: warning:
> "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined
> In file included from /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.c:39:
> /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/compat_wait.h:60: error: conflicting types
> for 'poll_initwait'
> include/linux/poll.h:65: error: previous declaration of 'poll_initwait'
> was here
> make[2]: *** [/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [_module_/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/data/build/tmp/linux-2.6.24'
> make: *** [vmmemctl.ko] Error 2
> ERROR
> /data/build/scripts/vmmemctl build failed
> check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/vmmemctl for details
> root:/data/build#
>
>
> Help?  :-)

De-Select VMWare and select open-vm-tools in menuconfig. ;-)

-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> > What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
> > running DL in a VM without the modules?
> 
> Advantages:
> Performance (especially the network driver), some better memory
> management, ability to shut down guest.
> 
> > Do the included DL VMware modules work with ESX 3.5 and ESX 3i, along
> > with the free VMware server?
> 
> Yes they will work on all versions.
> ESX 3.5 actually supports VMI, which is turned on per default in DL. This
> should give it a nice performance boost.
> VMWare Server 2.0 will also support this, but is still in beta (and beta 1
> doesn't run very good).

Yeah ... I tried VMserver 2 beta at home and had all kinds of problems
getting it running.  I ended up going back to version one.

It looks like we might be buying ESX at work.  I'm running the
evaluation now to check it out.  I'm leaning toward 3i.

> > I seem to recall the VM modules are broken in DL 1.3.  Is that still
> > true?  (the VM modules build just aborted for me)  Anything I can do to
> > help fix it?
> 
> No they work now.
> And we're actually using the opensource version.

root:/data/build# scripts/build.sh  build opt=vmmemctl
mount: proc already mounted
mount: none already mounted or /sys busy
mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys

executing vmmemctl with option build (in /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only)
Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24.2/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/data/build/tmp/linux-2.6.24'
  CC [M]  /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.o
In file included from /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.c:39:
/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/compat_wait.h:37:5: warning: "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined
/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/compat_wait.h:43:5: warning: "VMW_HAVE_EPOLL" is not defined
In file included from /data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.c:39:
/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/compat_wait.h:60: error: conflicting types for 'poll_initwait'
include/linux/poll.h:65: error: previous declaration of 'poll_initwait' was here
make[2]: *** [/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only/os.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/data/build/tmp/vmmemctl-only] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/data/build/tmp/linux-2.6.24'
make: *** [vmmemctl.ko] Error 2
ERROR
/data/build/scripts/vmmemctl build failed
check log file /data/build/tmp/LOGS/build/vmmemctl for details
root:/data/build# 


Help?  :-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over
> running DL in a VM without the modules?

Advantages:
Performance (especially the network driver), some better memory
management, ability to shut down guest.

> Do the included DL VMware modules work with ESX 3.5 and ESX 3i, along
> with the free VMware server?

Yes they will work on all versions.
ESX 3.5 actually supports VMI, which is turned on per default in DL. This
should give it a nice performance boost.
VMWare Server 2.0 will also support this, but is still in beta (and beta 1
doesn't run very good).

> I seem to recall the VM modules are broken in DL 1.3.  Is that still
> true?  (the VM modules build just aborted for me)  Anything I can do to
> help fix it?

No they work now.
And we're actually using the opensource version.

-- 

Regards
  Heiko Zuerker
  http://www.devil-linux.org

[Devil-Linux-discuss] VMware questions

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

What is the advantage of the VMware modules that come with DL, over 
running DL in a VM without the modules?

Do the included DL VMware modules work with ESX 3.5 and ESX 3i, along 
with the free VMware server?

I seem to recall the VM modules are broken in DL 1.3.  Is that still 
true?  (the VM modules build just aborted for me)  Anything I can do to 
help fix it?

 - BS

[Devil-Linux-discuss] install-on-usb modification

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

Hi,

I've done a small modification of the script to allow several useful (for me)
things:
- installation on the file system different from ext2
- ability to install DL on HDD and load it without FDD/USB-drive for new PC with
SATA HDD only.

I tested it on DL 1.3 , file systems were ext3, reiserfs, jfs. There is a
problem with grub and xfs, but it looks to be not a script bug but grub problem.

I believe the script should work on DL 1.2 as well.

Feel free to send me bug reports, comments and wishes.

Thank you in advance,

--
Sincerely,
Serge Leschinsky

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PCMCIA> realtek 8139too

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey,

 

I don’t think there’s much we can do about this.

Please try to get support on the pcmcia-cs mailinglist and make sure you mention that you’re using a Kernel 2.4.

 

Heiko

 

From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of gy...@we...
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:57 AM
To: devil-linux-discuss
Subject: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PCMCIA> realtek 8139too

 


Dear DL,

Sorry for being verbose, but I try to be as accurate as I can, so
I have some problem with DL and PCMCIA Edimax (with RTL8139) network card.

I have a Debian (3.1) Sarge with a 2.4.27 (!) kernel, and it  works perfectly with that PCMCIA card.  Some Debian sarge output:
uname -a
  Linux fw-1 2.4.27-2-386 #1 
lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 02)
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01)
0000:00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
0000:00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

OK. Now let`s see DL-1.2.14

Base modules needed for PCMCIA to work are
i82365
pcmcia_core
ds

The above three modules are loaded with no error/warning using modprobe.
I also have a 3Com pcmcia network card, so I load its module:

modprobe 3c574_cs

cardmgr... watching two sockets.

And it works perfectly, it gets an IP address from a dhcp server using dhcpcd eth0.

Now let's try to load 8139too, at first an error from lspci>

lspci

pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci/01/00.0
lspci: Unable to read the standard configuration space header of device 0000:01:00.0
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01)
00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)

modprobe 8139too
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: init_module: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o fail
ed
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: insmod 8139too failed
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg

lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
mousedev                4280   0  (unused)
3c574_cs                9740   1
ds                      7380   2  [3c574_cs]
i82365                 46320   2
pcmcia_core            50688   0  [3c574_cs ds i82365]
ip_conntrack           22432   0  (unused)
p80211                 19140   0  (unused)
lvm-mod                61920   0  (autoclean)
md                     60832   0  (autoclean)
apm                    10640   0  (unused)
loop                   49360   0

So I think You can fix it in the next release.

Thanks

George



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[Devil-Linux-discuss] PCMCIA> realtek 8139too

[<gy...@we...>]

Dear DL,

Sorry for being verbose, but I try to be as accurate as I can, so
I have some problem with DL and PCMCIA Edimax (with RTL8139) network card.

I have a Debian (3.1) Sarge with a 2.4.27 (!) kernel, and it  works  
perfectly with that PCMCIA card.  Some Debian sarge output:
_ uname -a_
/  Linux fw-1 2.4.27-2-386 #1 /
_ lspci_
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host  
bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 02)
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160  
[MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01)
0000:00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
0000:00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.  
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

   OK. NOW LET`S SEE DL-1.2.14

   Base modules needed for PCMCIA to work are
i82365
pcmcia_core
ds

   The above three modules are loaded with no error/warning using modprobe.
I also have a 3Com pcmcia network card, so I load its module:

   _modprobe 3c574_cs_

   _cardmgr_/... watching two sockets./

   And it works perfectly, it gets an IP address from a dhcp server  
using dhcpcd eth0.

   Now let's try to load 8139too, at first an ERROR FROM LSPCI>

   _ lspci_

   pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci/01/00.0
lspci: Unable to read the standard configuration space header of  
device 0000:01:00.0
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX  
Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160  
[MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01)
00:03.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
00:03.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01)
00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)

   modprobe 8139too
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: init_module: No  
such device
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: insmod  
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o fail
ed
/lib/modules/2.4.35.2/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: insmod 8139too failed
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,  
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information  
in syslog or the output from dmesg

   _lsmod_
Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
mousedev                4280   0  (unused)
3c574_cs                9740   1
ds                      7380   2  [3c574_cs]
i82365                 46320   2
pcmcia_core            50688   0  [3c574_cs ds i82365]
ip_conntrack           22432   0  (unused)
p80211                 19140   0  (unused)
lvm-mod                61920   0  (autoclean)
md                     60832   0  (autoclean)
apm                    10640   0  (unused)
loop                   49360   0

   So I think You can fix it in the next release.

   Thanks

   George

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] no GATEWAY defined in NIC

[Mgr. M. J. <mai...@vc...>]

Hello,

your router must have set external IP address of your DNS server on=20
external (Internet) interface and must to do NAT of this external IP=20
address (213.76.212.111) to your internal IP address of your DNS server=20
(to 192.168.0.223).

Then it could work in this "strange" 2-routers network config. But I=20
would configure internal network DNS clients to IP 192.168.0.223 rather=20
than 213.76.212.111 for example by DHCP answers. DNS packets from=20
clients will not have to go through one firewall outside local network=20
and then back through the second firewall to the local network to DNS=20
server.

Jiri Motycka


Przemys=C5=82aw Barczak napsal(a):
> hi
>> The Default Gateway is defined in setup under NET / Additional / Gatew=
ay.
>> Do you have firewall rules enabled? Is the port open?
>>
>>
> here are the details:
>=20
> ROUTER:
> external address (let's say) 213.76.212.111
> internal addess: 192.168.0.1
> virtual server: 192.168.0.223 on both UDP/TCP ext port 53/int port 53
>=20
> DEVIL:
>=20
> NIC1:
> IP address: 192.168.0.223
> mask: 255.255.255.0
> DHCP is off
> no acting as DHCP server
>=20
> ADDITIONAL:
> primary DNS: 127.0.0.1
> default gateway: 192.168.0.1
> others are empty
>=20
> services: only BEEP and BIND are running, FIREWALL is off
>=20
> netstat -l --numeric-ports
> tcp 192.168.0.223:53
> udp 192.168.0.223:53
> tcp 127.0.0.1:53
> udp 127.0.0.1:53
>=20
>=20
> when I set my station as the following:
> address IP: 192.168.0.4
> mask: 255.255.255.0
> gateway: 192.168.0.2 (another Internet router)
> server DNS: 192.168.0.223
> and run
> ping www.devil-linux.org
> it gives:
> 64 bytes from vhost.sourceforge.net (66.35.250.210): icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D=
50=20
> time=3D215 ms
>=20
> but changing server DNS into 213.76.212.111 (getting DNS from external)=

> ping: unknown host www.devil-linux.org
> means: router does not bind to the interface 192.168.0.223
>=20
> it's not a problem of the router configuration, because if it is set to=
=20
> another DNS server (running on CRUX, with "/sbin/route add default gw=20
> 192.168.0.1" command in the "net" file) everything works just fine
>=20
> what I've found in the ifcfg-eth0 file is "route" as this one:
> ROUTE=3D"$ROUTE default/0.0.0.0:192.168.0.1"
>=20
> so ... what is wrong in my config ?
>=20
> P.
>=20
>=20
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] no GATEWAY defined in NIC

[<pr...@ga...>]

hi
> The Default Gateway is defined in setup under NET / Additional / Gateway.
> Do you have firewall rules enabled? Is the port open?
>
>
here are the details:

ROUTER:
external address (let's say) 213.76.212.111
internal addess: 192.168.0.1
virtual server: 192.168.0.223 on both UDP/TCP ext port 53/int port 53

DEVIL:

NIC1:
IP address: 192.168.0.223
mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP is off
no acting as DHCP server

ADDITIONAL:
primary DNS: 127.0.0.1
default gateway: 192.168.0.1
others are empty

services: only BEEP and BIND are running, FIREWALL is off

netstat -l --numeric-ports
tcp 192.168.0.223:53
udp 192.168.0.223:53
tcp 127.0.0.1:53
udp 127.0.0.1:53


when I set my station as the following:
address IP: 192.168.0.4
mask: 255.255.255.0
gateway: 192.168.0.2 (another Internet router)
server DNS: 192.168.0.223
and run
ping www.devil-linux.org
it gives:
64 bytes from vhost.sourceforge.net (66.35.250.210): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 
time=215 ms

but changing server DNS into 213.76.212.111 (getting DNS from external)
ping: unknown host www.devil-linux.org
means: router does not bind to the interface 192.168.0.223

it's not a problem of the router configuration, because if it is set to 
another DNS server (running on CRUX, with "/sbin/route add default gw 
192.168.0.1" command in the "net" file) everything works just fine

what I've found in the ifcfg-eth0 file is "route" as this one:
ROUTE="$ROUTE default/0.0.0.0:192.168.0.1"

so ... what is wrong in my config ?

P.